valens: "There's a bit less of natural chemistry"

20-5-2018 04:39

Cloud9's coach, Soham "valens" Chowdhury, talked us through the team's disappointing results as of late and their progress with their new in-game leader, Pujan "FNS" Mehta.

Despite starting off well at DreamHack Masters Marseille, the new Cloud9 have now exited their second consecutive event in the group stage after placing 7th-8th at IEM Sydney and 9th-12th at ESL Pro League Season 7 Finals.

We approached Soham "⁠valens⁠" Chowdhury on the semi-finals day in Dallas to find out what's going on within the team and how they are adjusting to the new structure:

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hello guys

2018-05-20 04:41

8 replies

What’s good?

2018-05-20 04:42

7 replies

not much, just thinking how over rated fns is and why c9 even wanted him in the first place. they could have paid me 1/10th of fns buyout and I tell them its a shit idea and saved them 180k lul

2018-05-20 04:44

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Yeah sad tbh, expected a lot more of FNS but is just not working. When he went back to CLG the team actually got decent again and they were doing many upsets, everybody thought that was FNS brain achievement but it seems that at the end, it was the rest of the team carrying. SMH

2018-05-20 04:48

3 replies

hes a tier 2 NA igl, thats where he belongs and that's where he'll be decent. I wouldn't even put him on a team like rng or nrg

2018-05-20 04:52

2 replies

Sadly +1

2018-05-20 12:16

nice letter play there dude next level

2018-05-21 05:36

Wtf ? Did they really pay that much for him ???? If so what a joke... Worst bargain ever

2018-05-20 12:50

dunno

2018-05-20 12:22

Cloud9 is done with fns

2018-05-20 04:42

hello guys

2018-05-20 04:42

Nice

2018-05-20 04:42

rip shroud9

2018-05-20 04:44

They will be a better team in the long run. Will take time to find that balance of styles. The loose style the rest of them are used to, and FNS structured style. I agree with valens

2018-05-20 04:47

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Ok David Jr. However NA CS is still a joke and fluke9 will remain garbage.

2018-05-20 08:16

FNS needs to update his dated structured style tho, also c9 with this roster is much better with a more loose play style

2018-05-20 08:36

BLAME CANADA

2018-05-20 04:47

1 reply

meanwhile liquid with two canadians doing pretty good

2018-05-21 01:17

200k buyout BTW...

2018-05-20 04:55

FNS haha nice roster changes

2018-05-20 04:55

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What do you mean? FNS best igl in the world. FNS>>>>>>>>all of FaZe he’s trying out a new sens rn and I think he didn’t have his monitor on 240 Hz only 60. Promise you FNS greatest igl of all time.

2018-05-20 05:36

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haha

2018-05-20 06:52

worst. bait. ever.

2018-05-20 08:09

Unreal that youd remove tarik as igl. It doesn't matter if he's not the deepest strategical thinker in the world, he had the personality to do it and the judgement to call for the right strat at the right time. No matter how simple they were.

2018-05-20 05:05

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Simpleminded man won a major

2018-05-20 05:43

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I dont understand why they replaced tarik as IGL in the first place. never change a running system. That dude won them the major so why change IGL? Only stew and ska need to be replaced by someone equally skilled and that's it

2018-05-26 09:51

Valens flexing his education "litmus test"

2018-05-20 05:46

lol i mean next roster move is probably -fns +stewie again so i dont get why they waste everybodys time. It's well known NA can't play tactical so strat heavy IGLs will never work. Better to get 5 fraggers that work like Liquid and not try to be like 2014 fnatic with pronax or something.

2018-05-20 06:28

Yes. They need less chemistry, more physics. Like put the bullets on the enemies head pls

2018-05-20 06:52

1 reply

lmao well put.And this is actually true

2018-05-20 07:15

Hey, why is there no text article? I like to read the interviews like usually here.

2018-05-20 07:11

5 replies

they got lazy, thats all

2018-05-20 07:58

they're evolving

2018-05-20 08:17

+1698556 also reading is much faster than listening to the players talking..

2018-05-20 08:52

2 replies

Also an interview with someone like Guardian

2018-05-20 12:31

1 reply

interview with xantares englando

2018-05-20 17:13

This team without stewie has not enough fire power. You can have all the strats in the world, but skadoodle and Fns are bots. And sometimes rush plays horrible aswell. Tarik and autimatic are pretty much the whole team.. And as you see with just two superstars is not enough. Liquid has 3 stars and 2 really good support players that can go off at anytime. Cloud9 needs to - ska +cerq/nifty and -FNS +Brehze/ethan

2018-05-20 08:01

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Aren’t brehze and ethan these eternal tier 2 NA players? Or have been for like 3 years in same spot

2018-05-20 12:20

4 replies

NRG is litterally both of their first tier 1 teams, how are they eternal tier 2 if they are literally Tier 1 right now.

2018-05-20 20:18

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I wouldn’t call NRG tier 1. Liquid and C9 are tier 1 NA

2018-05-20 21:45

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nrg > c9 dude. idk where ya been

2018-05-20 23:26

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What has NRG done? They qualified to Pro league finals because they have been good online, but got rekt on LAN.

2018-05-21 08:05

Skadoodle is a bot if he has a bot igl

2018-05-20 12:32

Hello everyone, do you think Astralis will win or Liquid. As I think is easy for Astralis

2018-05-20 09:21

FNS is a smart player, he just doesn't have the fire power Stew did. C9s problem is that they're aggressive, and when they are they struggle to get openings like Stewie did.

2018-05-20 09:57

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Definetely yes!

2018-05-21 05:55

mobile.twitter.com/Z4NYcs/status/9979544..

2018-05-20 12:06

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im with those other people, where the fk can you buy an island for 200k lol

2018-05-20 12:10

Nomad please give striker some more cash so he can buy some shirts that arent BROWN

2018-05-20 12:28

what a fat

2018-05-20 15:47

knew it was a terrible call bringing in fns hes just bad bad bad. theyr going to end up removing him and changing igl again.

2018-05-20 16:28

What's this meme that his buyout was 200k? His tweet is clearly a joke. You guys are idiots. It was reported Rush and Tarik cost about 100k in buyouts together last year. It would absolutely fly in the face of how C9 builds teams for them to have spent 200k on any player in NA except perhaps Elige. They are cheap. Some other buyouts we know of 20k for Stew, Autimatic free. No no no no way. I also gurantee you they made money on the stew thing once FNS was said and done. It's just how the org has always been run.

2018-05-20 16:54

They just need some more time plain and simple. Going from a super loose play style to a structured one take time. If they don't get rid of fns and give the team a lil more time they will do better. It's not all on fns. The players are starting with the strat he's calling then loose focus and go off and do their own thing. They need to break themselves of that. It's just a transition period. They will break out of it.

2018-05-20 18:40

Inb4 they buyout a euro player

2018-05-21 01:25

4 replies

Mixwell from G2 please.

2018-05-21 01:27

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YES PLEASE autimatic RUSH tarik Nifty mixwell

2018-05-22 02:33

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Cerq would be the dream pick-up though for Ska (if C9 would go for that buyout), and mixwell for FNS. Autimatic, RUSH, tarik, Mixwell, Cerq would be pretty nuts.

2018-05-22 03:08

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2018-05-24 00:17

valens is a smart guy

2018-05-21 13:49

well bravo dummies for selling your best player ...

2018-05-22 11:04

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He wanted to go. They made bank by selling him. I applaud them for letting him explore other opportunities

2018-05-25 05:13

Obviously fns sucks if it didn’t work at CLG it’s not gonna work at cloud9 he makes the whole team sucks even more I feel bad for Rush, Tarik, Autimatic, and Skapoodle

2018-05-22 18:15