this is some king of a joke?
why the fuck they have to play inf second time?
this is fucking unbeliveble... both teams didnt play tuscan so why not this map instead? coz inf is kinda favouring WMF...
I guess Loord was damn right about one thing...
2010-11-06 11:00
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I guess it was not WEM organizers decision to play inferno map for the second time between these two teams. If u are a team and want to be nr.1 in the world u have overcome everyone in all maps. So imho poles suggested to WMF to play inferno so they could prove something to us. WMF accepted cause they feel confident on that map. That's my point of view what happened here in map selection.
2010-11-06 11:58
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If FX can beat the 2 best teams in the world, fnatic and Na'Vi on their best maps by quite convincing margins, i have little doubt that they are perfectly capable on beating WMF on inferno if the organizers don't fuck up again...
2010-11-06 10:43
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i dunno man, never heard of it.. is it new, this inferno or somthin` map? and why do they force the nice lads from fx on it? :( i think fx should start from 5-0 handicap with Loord 10k money ofc
2010-11-06 10:55
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Where's admin ?! That's pathetic what those guys are writting here..
Even if it's de_inferno , FX are on fire and WMF won't get more than 10 rounds! :-)
2010-11-06 10:48
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Well, this is pissy for me as well and i am not even polish(or European of that matter). I can totally understand why polish guys are annoyed... I am, too. So, i'd rather let this one be ;)
2010-11-06 10:51
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Well, you're free to have an opinion. My opinion differs from yours. The tournament structure is turning out to be a blunder and they deserve it for not doing it better, in my opinion. I've organized CS tournaments (of a MUCH smaller magnitude, i agree). And it's not really rocket science to get it right.
2010-11-06 11:02
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i dont care about the tournament structure, jesus, i care about polish fanboys insulting a whole country based on a CS tournament.. its just unbeliable..
2010-11-06 11:04
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well, i take them as insulting the chinese organization when they insult china :P
But you do have a valid point. Insulting entire countries for some random video game is just sad.
2010-11-06 11:09
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Yes, I can't belive it's inferno again, but some idiots, writing "fu*king china", should be permanently banned. This is between Loord and chinese people, not you (Poles).
2010-11-06 10:51
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Why so serious? Showing no respect to other countries isn't serious? Get out of here, dude, please.
Loord said "f*cking china" so now all retarded kids are saying it, this is ridiculous. He apologized for his words and you are still doing it...
2010-11-06 11:00
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you're right, but in the other hand, polish people shouldn't post that stupid comments, so you can also prove how much your country is worth and tolerant ;]
2010-11-06 11:19
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what a stupidity....
Inferno again. Do you really believe that it's only coincidence ? Stupid admins. WMF will win it in my opinion just to lost straight 2:0 in final with SK....
2010-11-06 10:56
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how come unfair?
the maps were chosen randomly previous days, so what and where is unfair?
stfu polish fan boys
you guys just know fucking china fucking china
2010-11-06 10:56
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what's in the word "random" that your atrophied polish brain cannot understand? Had it been ONLY inferno throughout the WHOLE tournament, it could have still been random, that's unlikely but statistically entirely possible
2010-11-06 11:01
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idd. Maybe the word that you didn't understand is "random", not "statistic". If it had been de_train which WMF are not great on, nobody would have complained
2010-11-06 11:20
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Jesus... How come I didn't understand word "random". Is there anything to understand ? NOT RANDOM = NOT RANDOM = MILLIONS ways to skip the lottery or interfere with result...
I will finally shut up if somebody upload a video where Chinese are doing this drawing (not by computer but on sheet of paper IN FRONT OF EVENT'S VISITORS.
2010-11-06 11:30
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now that`s just being retarded, "we made inferno".. like wmf has no game in other maps...they have a strong game on d2 and train also.. some guy said the "fucking china"shit and now every retard is chewing that shit continuously. brainless
2010-11-06 11:01
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Everyone who wrote f*cking China: Shame on you. How could you accuse entire China society for what happened. But WMF one more time on Inferno? This is some kind of joke
2010-11-06 11:10
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Okey, just one qouestion: why admins don't ban all users who 'fuckin' everything ?
I think FX gonna win this, but WMF will play really better 'cause they know their fails on last played match (inferno) vs FX ... GL to them
2010-11-06 11:19
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Abusive posts were deleted. And I told every user that writes comments including "FUCK CHINA" or something in that manner will have to face the possibility of being banned.
2010-11-06 11:22
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how do the ban works? Do you just delete the account or do sth with the ip?
cuz if it's only sth with the account you could really be a bit more severe and ban some of them
2010-11-06 11:27
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Ekhm, excuse me ? In 4 matches, WMF got inferno 3 times, are you kidding me ? Now you know, why WMF is in semi-final, 3 times on 4 matches their favourite map.
2010-11-06 11:21
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In my opinion WMF realy can win inferno because they're on fire with fx on inferno but FX want a revenge... But fx win! And will be beatiful Final SK-FX. 16-10 for FX.
GOGO FX!
2010-11-06 11:41
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I think, they lost last match coz dropping Fx player during their winnig streak and that broke their momentum so wmf catch them and won coz of better economics imo so Fx can smash with them on their map like NO PROBLEM
2010-11-06 11:45
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Again inferno... this will be tight... Even i think that FX will wipe out WMF like they did to Na`Vi...but they lost against WMF on inferno 16-14... Who knows... We'll see... :D
2010-11-06 11:50
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lol@polish pre-whining. how about getting some quality into this forum and delete all those kiddy comments, dear hltv admins.
i mean 90% of these comments have no content anyway. If e-sports wants to be taken any serious, u should better get rid of those kiddies, i'm just sayin...
2010-11-06 11:53
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it's forbidden pre-whining? lol!
what a rule violation :O
-.-' you can post whatever you wan to, but don't insult, write in english, and be respectful and the rest will be fine.
2010-11-06 12:03
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well nobody wants to read 1k comments all saying "omg inferno again" y...we know that. its not a violation of the rules, its just some poor kiddy shit. as i said ...it would help to increase the quality of the forum.
2010-11-06 12:18
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hey FX are not noobs to say that they will lose it just because is inferno,every pro team knows all maps so don`t bother to write WMF easy and etc ,FX can do it,is not a new map for them:)
2010-11-06 12:10
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easy 4 FX to win and a large margin could be admittedly promised.
just cant understand is it really so hard for teams like FX to beat such a wemadeFAIL thing on INFERNO? c'mon////////////these koreans arent that strong :S
2010-11-06 12:16
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It will be either 16-14 for FX, 16-14 for WMF or 15-15 and overtime. It's always like that just look at WMFs previous matches at inf.
Crap map - I believe the system for choosing it was "random :)" draw... I mean FX would surely vote it out, they are better at nuke,train,tuscan, I think they could even handle them at dd2. Inf is the only map WMF has a clear chance to win...
2010-11-06 12:26
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well hope it ll not be 4vs5 ... FX might still lose .
Good that loord is a polish guy ..if a Chinese person would say 'fucking China' he would offend his entire country and thus his emperor and the punishment for such a thing is severing his head from his body.
2010-11-06 12:46
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Everyone on this site, have something to say, but only 1percent of all, are writing something serious, instead, x>y, kurwa do boju, etc.
One person wrote: "oh noo inferno" - thats ok, but then 1000 other ppls are writing the same thing, but with differents words, like "shiit inferno again", "lol omfg RotFl inferno haha lol lolo" isnt it lame ?
yea maybe... but I LIKE IT ! so NEO>peri Taz > glow. and f**k Ch**a. Yeeeeaaah now i feeel better.
polish fanboys are powerfull
2010-11-06 13:06
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*** WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors TaZ with a headshot from ak47 ***
WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors LoordB with ak47
WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors PASHA[t] with ak4
Nice termi ;D
2010-11-06 13:34
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*** WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors TaZ with a headshot from ak47 ***
WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors LoordB with ak47
WemadeFOX.termi[eu] killed Frag eXecutors PASHA[t] with ak47
good job
2010-11-06 13:36
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One round lightheadedly given away, the one where termi was able to sneak right through the middle, it was clearly pasha's fault. I hope this doesn't break Fx's neck :-/
2010-11-06 13:37
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good start by fx, they were like 5-1 and thant it ended with 9-6 score... not really good... anf now they lost pistolround... probably wmf wil take this again=\
2010-11-06 13:40
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2 times de inferno and that is wmf best map , and 1st time was with lot of chaos in that match with loordB falling out of the game imo they would've taken that match if that didn't happen , they deserve to be in final more then wmf for sure , FX > wmf on every map exept inferno , and they play wmf twice on inferno ... bad thing by tournament on a bo1 format !
2010-11-06 13:59
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you cant say that they should be in finals when they obviously lost to WMF twice. sure, FX would beat WMF on every other map but unfortunately it was inferno twice.
2010-11-06 14:01
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did solo shoot? I had no in game sound so I don't know, maybe since he heard 2 players running back from the end of banana he checked everything, just like longA on dust2
2010-11-06 13:52
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i'll guess that when other 2 CT's run out of there, pasha heard them and probably was thinking that they're making a boost of 3men, because at first of all CT came slowly and then 2 ct was falling back noisy, so something stinky was going there =)
2010-11-06 13:54
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100% random with 3 inferno's for wmf (they also played d2 against sk. The score is well known...) And all other matches were played on d2, train and nuke. Tell me why? In addition, it's the first tournament in the history with BO1 in brackets (only 3 matches per day, isn't it stupid?) and the teams have nothing to say with the map choose. IT IS JUST UN(FUCKING)FAIR
2010-11-06 14:01
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cmon guys... i guess the map was decided before... it was only a 'bad luck' for FX
EDIT : wow, wmf are very lucky... they won 3 of 4 mathes, all wins of inferno :O
2010-11-06 13:58
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yupp, thats why they won. FXs tactics gets disturbed, and they have to change plans during the round because of loosing a player, which make it harder for them to win.
great play from wmf.
2010-11-06 14:03
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What's so hard for you to understand, Polish fanboys? Who plays which maps are 100 % random, as they maps were drawn prior to the tournament!
Come on, stop the fucking QQ!
2010-11-06 13:58
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dude if they did play nuke/train or ever dust2 it will more faire .. 2nd inferno vs fx as far as i know is their best , and the worst for the fx guys :) good stuff from them but it would be different score in different map
2010-11-06 14:01
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they neven even played nuke in this tournament... what are you talking about??
the only non-inferno map they played was d2 against SK, which they lost quite badly...
2010-11-06 14:21
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I am proud of them. I won't say "wfc f*****" nor anything, because they deserved to win, cause they were better on this map. I would love to see them on other map... that would be easy for FX. too bad it happened this way, but it's ok.
3rd place is not so bad. FX is top3 in the world for sure. [many ppl won't be agree and they still will put mtw and sk before them, but the fact is that fx finished on top3 since GG in Spain?¿, I am not so sure] and yes I know ESWC wasn't top3 but they did it really good there. And on the last 2 tournaments they showed their skill.
2010-11-06 14:19
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YEAH IT WILL BE AWESOME 16ROUNDS FINAL. 16-0 for SK whatever maps played. Wmf deserved that win really much. They play awesome on all maps, except Inferno. Pity they had to play on inferno almost all the time :/ GL WMF.
2010-11-06 14:00
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They dont know any other map to play...except inferno... Thats whay the admin gave them de_inferno against FX... FX are fucking good team but a money can do anything...To buy a map for example...for WEM 2010 !!! FUCKING RETARDS WMF!!!
2010-11-06 13:58
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yes, they were, but their placement is not really wise, because some teams were gonna play the only one map, and other were going so, but another one. the wem ogranizer just wanted to see all of the maps, not all of the teams on different maps, that is the problem imo.
2010-11-06 14:10
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Just as predicted fx in top3 :) gg. Dont forget its WEM more of sponsor prestige than competition. It's all about them having fun =D at least I always took it that way.
2010-11-06 14:01
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HAhhahaah WMF Only play inferno.
dust2-0
train-0
nuke-0
tuscan-0
The tournament is in Asia so the organizers have gone to them in hand. WMF you mean nothing on the stage, counter-strike. WemodeFox <FX Only wines ahhahahah inferno. Zero
2010-11-06 14:01
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ANGRY FANBOYS RAGE!!!!!!
Fx is a good team, but no need to talk crap about wemadefox, and saying they can only win inferno, it could just mean FX SUCKS AT INFERNO SO THEY SHOULD TRAIN IT MORE.
Also wemadefox played it now the 3rd time, and fx had all there demo's from this tournament so no excuses, FX should of planned better to win.
Tournament is just Random. Not Crap Not Good , just random, i rather have different tournament layouts then 20 tournaments all the same story.
2010-11-06 14:02
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"and fx had all there demo's from this tournament so no excuses, FX should of planned better to win.
yeah THREE DEMOS including this match againts FX...
2010-11-06 14:19
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the latest demo is enough to plan out a good anti strat, and ofc wmf can do the same... about time some people accept FX needed to prepare more for inferno, against any team...
this situation is like Na'Vi...navi can only win train? now look..they lose twice on there favourite and probably best map. happened because FX and SK was more prepared against Na'Vi strats..so...yeeeeeeeee no idea where this is going, but annoys me to see people blame another team for there loss.
2010-11-06 16:27
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as i was saying in other comments.
1) i dont blame wmf, china or organizers for fx loss
2) i blame organizers for placing maps in the schedule this way, that some teams were going to play 1 map continuously and other teams another 1 map in the same way
3) if sk crushes (i believe so) wmf like 16:6 or something like that it will prove that wmf should rename to wmi :P
peace ^^
2010-11-06 14:15
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Why are you raging at WMF? They have nothing to do with the map draws. They are just very good. Even if inferno is their best map, they are crazy skilleds and could very well fight in every map with FX or fnatic or SK or Na'Vi, wtv. Seriously stop nerdraging cause youre team got beated, it makes you look nothing but morons so yeah, keep raging.
2010-11-06 14:10
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Marcus, WMF is good team, yes, but they aren't on SK, fnatic, mTw, FX, Na'Vi level, and on infero they can win those teams as you saw, but FX would "destroy" them on nuke and train.
2010-11-06 14:24
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It's funny how all the poles are sore in defeat, and insult WMF in rage. Terrible sportsmanship.
This is why I was happy to see WMF win, so all you kids can go to sleep sulking.
No excuses about inferno, it's a mainstream map. WMF are obviously not a one-map team either, you kids just have nothing more to say after losing =]
2010-11-06 14:11
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the WMF defense as CT is just perfect.. nothing to say against them, GG and finaly they reach to grand final. I am just a bit "dissapointed" because both maps vs them were on inferno, they would destroy them on any other map. But yes, I know the maps were decided before, so there are no trick. So see you in next tournament! :D
2010-11-06 14:12
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FX had trained this map a lot, specially T side, but as we saw, WMF CT is amazing.
it's no excuse, I said that before, but I can add that they would be destroyed in any other map.
2010-11-06 14:55
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about the map decision: all map played was decided and drawn before the first play day, so it's nosense to complain about it. All in all i would say wmf is lucky to play the same map 3 times and they deserve to claim top 2 as they won the match. That's the fact.
by the way, anyone could check out the time schedule here:thewem.com/official/tournament-schedule...
tomorrow wmf and sk will play on de_nuke and de_tuscan(2nd map if possible).
2010-11-06 14:15
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This is very obvious.. they just got luck but they are still Gods with peri at the top ! :).. noob polish kids just cannot take their team's lost and they are so annyoing just take a look at the ukranians they said it was a good match gg fx why cant just the polish assholes say the same thing? Because it is comming from their inside.. they are miserable disgasting people...
2010-11-06 14:30
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Well Take it easy.
Not a fault of a WMF but it doesnt change that WMF is a Team of 1 map ;)
well i can say GL to WMF in next events... other teams might eliminate inferno ;p
it means 2;0 ;p
2010-11-06 14:15
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gj wmf.. fx just walk walk walk t side allowed wmf to control the map... well deserved.. ul pols.. would say go home.. but that's more than likely in the UK :[
2010-11-06 14:15
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Wow the comments here are simply outrageous. Fanboys refusing to use God's greatest gift, brain. I can't believe I'm cheering for the same team with this bunch of primates. Get a grip.
I know it's not easy to swallow a defeat, but please control yourselves. You're not animals. Watch what you say. It's that hard to say GG and move on huh?
2010-11-06 14:22
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Well tt side of fx simply sux.. they were slow n they didnt use advantage of pasha awp ...
also they should flash n he small bs and they just played mainly on 1. useing 1 way to get to there ... crappy
2010-11-06 14:19
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Many teams prefer bo3. But in your favorite team would win each bo1. You wouldn't say that. I don't care if it's bo1 or bo3, if my favorite team wins, it's ok. Be real.
2010-11-06 14:21
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sad but true its all about inferno. its like with NaVi at GameGun 2x nuke with FX and fnatic and they were out.
it will be really poor final. WMF will be crushed soooooo bad.
Nontheless WMF is amazing on inferno. Its like this map is in theirs blood. Perfect positioning amazing granades. They outplayed FX baaadly. So sad that FX i so weak on inf. 90% sure that NaVi would crush WMF on inf too. Lucky bastards ;-)
2010-11-06 14:22
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seriously..that was the worst tournament ever !!
maps already chosen by the org
loordb disconect from server
delpan havin mouse problem
frod ghostin against fnatic
2010-11-06 14:26
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when the organizer is korean , the map is comfirm by korean . if you(poland) guys think FX lose to WMF because the map_inferno , why not complain it to the WEM committee(korean)? on the other hand , why can't FX prove their play at de_inferno ???
SO STFU and stop blame CHINA!!!!!
2010-11-06 14:33
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your stupid. Every top player would say to you that mastering all 5 maps is so fucking hard. Thats why top teams alwasy elimnates 1 or 2 maps from their map pool and focus on remaining. Trying to be the best of all 5 maps will result in being average on everyone.
2010-11-06 16:41
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wmf palys 3 times inferno on this turnament, thx to admins they know that wmf will lose on every other map thats why they decide tom play inferno, sk send this inferno naps home pls
2010-11-06 14:34
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noob polish kids just cannot take their team's lost and they are so annyoing just take a look at the ukranians they said it was a good match gg fx why cant just the polish assholes say the same thing? Because it is comming from their inside.. they are miserable disgasting people...
2010-11-06 14:38
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Not everyone, but sadly most of them. Majority Poles don't understand that maps were drawn earlier, and Chinese admins didn't do anything wrong at this time :/. So please Poles, don't be so rude...
2010-11-06 14:46
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+1 i love FX more than any other top team . i am sadly when FX lose to WMF .
BUT some of poland guys is so unrespectful , it made me sad again .
anyway , i love NEO ,and i am glad to see FX to be the-king-of-2011
2010-11-06 15:01
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but its map foult! In every interview with members of FX before WEM they said that they are afraid of pplaying on inferno becouse they never train on that map and always eliminate it. They were also saying that inability to chose a map is the only thing that they dont like about asian tournament.
Ofcourse this bullshit about Koreans or Chinese organizatos choosing map to make WMF advance to finals is not worth commenting. So i partialy agree with you :) O
One more thing. Those bunch of 12-17y old kids say nothing about who Poles are. cheers.
and second thing. PL people like UA people, thats why there is always good atmosphere when those two are playing.
ane maybe 3rd one ;P :D we've seen what happend when esuba made draw with PG. Just imagine what would happen if you had such a good team like we have. You need some perspective my son and also im not you father
cheers again :D
2010-11-06 16:54
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well after outplaying wmf during wcg. fnatic, tyloo and na'vi on their best map here in wem, people had the right to expect them to win against the koreans.
2010-11-06 15:21
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Well, losing inferno to wmf is not a sin bo1 is always a bit unfair bo3 tournament would go completely other way, eventually... who cares about that 1 match.
Anyway, FX is back in top5 with pasha on board. I think they've proved something to people that didn't believe they can be a top team without luq.
2010-11-06 15:29
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Can't expect more from deluded and mostly stupid polish fanboys then OMG INFERNO whine, the teams probably know why it's inferno again or they would've complained don't you think? AND CHINA is NOT THE SAME AS KOREA GET IT U TARDS? WMF = KOREA, WEM = CHINA. #1377 every cs tournament used to be played bo1 DOUBLE ELIMINATION. It's actually a very good system that allows a team that maybe had a bad map to come back and win the thing.. And I like it because some teams dominate 2 maps and they are winning BO3 cause of it. Well played by WMF clearly the better team here on the day, and if you say they won cause of the map you're insulting FX too, because they tried hard and played good in this tournament and just lost to a team that was better on the day... THEY ARE PAID TO PLAY CS DO YOU THINK THEY CAN AFFORD TO SUCK ON 1 of 5 maps? NO THEY CAN'T..
<3 seeing polish fanboys rage mode, I started to dislike FX just because of retarded fanboys..
2010-11-06 18:16
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