Map developers face $50,000 fine

Canadian map developers Diego Liatis and Frédéric Denis could be fined $50,000 CAD (approximately €37,000) for reproducing a Montréal subway station in CS:GO, Le Journal de Montréal reports.

Liatis and Denis had asked for permission from Montréal's City Council to recreate the subway station of Berri-UQAM in Valve's FPS game, but their request was met with a firm rejection.

They still decided to carry on with the project, and could now face legal trouble if the map is released as STM, Montréal's public transit commission, is looking to begin legal action against them.

The map was designed to be used in a local CS:GO tournament that will be held in early March in Montréal. Denis described the situation as "ridiculous".

"We did not create something that is behind STM's closed walls," he told Le Journal de Montréal.

"If terrorists want to know what an STM subway station looks like, all they have to do is take the subway."

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Denmark asdfrofl
wtf
2013-02-19 13:54
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Serbia ShALiTrA
retards...
2013-02-19 13:55
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#3
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Boombl4 | 
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Haha, this is so funny.
2013-02-19 13:55
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Australia JNUPS
what the actual fuck LOL
2013-02-19 13:55
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#5
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Canada xb0y
Awkward moment when government authorities act like kids.
2013-02-19 13:56
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2 replies
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Finland M[a]SSA
+1. i mean... what... the... FUCK?!
2013-02-19 14:06
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Wow! Yeah! What an "awkward moment"!
2013-02-19 14:42
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Wow..... but Battlefield 3 can have a subway station that is in Paris?
2013-02-19 13:57
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#20
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France Energy~
I don't even know if they asked them the permission to make a map of it, and imo they wouldn't have rejected BF3 developpers.
2013-02-19 14:06
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5 replies
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Belgium Zapper1337
You never know bro, it's like those planes the GTA4 developers couldn't implement in their game because people would use it to crash into US famous buildings ... What a shame:x
2013-02-19 14:35
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4 replies
#101
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Portugal Schypher
As believable that can be, that was not the case. The reasons why they didn't added planes it was because it was just one city, one airport. They tried to recreate New York as realistic as possible. Why put planes when the city was small was hell and you could only land in one place?
2013-02-19 16:11
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3 replies
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Belgium Zapper1337
really weird that is what saw on different gaming sites ? :x Back in the days i was checking gamespot, etajv, ign,...
2013-02-19 17:49
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Ireland dAND3h
My friend works at rockstar and what schypher says is true
2013-02-19 21:05
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Belgium Zapper1337
oho it was a myth !
2013-02-19 22:14
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World YoYoYoYo
The law is different in France. Here public places are public property so you are allowed to copy them in video games, animation movies etc
2013-02-19 14:35
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Germany VxO4
So what you are telling me any public building in france is owned by the people. Thats bs. Espeically subway stations are could be owned by private/business who runs the subway.
2013-02-19 15:38
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World YoYoYoYo
"So what you are telling me any public building in france is owned by the people" Yes, kind of (that's more complicated than that tho) And you're wrong, the company that runs the subway in Paris is public. Stop talking about things you don't know...
2013-02-19 17:24
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Germany VxO4
we were talking about the one and canada smarty And thats not the point idiot. Fucking read
2013-02-19 18:24
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World YoYoYoYo
"Wow..... but Battlefield 3 can have a subway station that is in Paris?" That's the first sentence, the one I was answering to. Learn to read you mong
2013-02-19 18:38
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Obviously EA were actually granted permission to do it, unlike these Canadians.
2013-02-19 14:42
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World YoYoYoYo
Yeah obviously they asked for the permission, yes. What I meant is that they had the right to copy it even without asking
2013-02-19 17:19
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World Mwjk13
BF3's subway isn't a specific play based on a real subway, this is, thus they can be fined.
2013-02-19 18:15
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Ireland Crakila
gg Canada
2013-02-19 13:57
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Spain JgS^G
notbad :D
2013-02-19 13:58
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Brazil Myballs
This kind of people are so f**ing boring
2013-02-19 14:00
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World FourKingAce
its probably best we don't make bomb simulators of 1:1 real life places.
2013-02-19 13:59
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Malta Eneko*
lol wtf
2013-02-19 14:00
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Poland tfg
"If terrorists want to know what an STM subway station looks like, all they have to do is take the subway" love u man :D
2013-02-19 14:03
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Portugal picc
LOL WUT
2013-02-19 14:05
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United Kingdom dv-_-
They asked for permission, were told no, then did it anyway. Serves them right.
2013-02-19 14:07
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Canada theRage
+1
2013-02-19 14:12
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+1
2013-02-19 14:43
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Brazil 4venger
+1
2013-02-19 15:34
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Czech Republic stxCZE
+1
2013-02-19 16:31
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Portugal HeytR
SORRY CANADA SORRY !
2013-02-19 14:07
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
canadian troublemakers? i thought they would only apologize each other for half an hour
2013-02-19 14:08
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4 replies
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Brazil marcio-skl
don't forget hockey
2013-02-19 14:16
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Poland Morferes
...and beavers
2013-02-19 17:47
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North America trashers
nha we are not brazilllllllllllllllian
2013-02-19 19:28
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
sorry eh
2013-02-19 19:33
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Brazil DUZ1
Damn!
2013-02-19 14:09
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There are more many possibilities to get killed by a policeman that by a terrorist!
2013-02-19 14:09
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Finland M[a]SSA
lol'd
2013-02-19 14:27
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Pretty much their fault and retarded of them "Liatis and Denis had asked for permission from Montréal's City Council to recreate the subway station of Berri-UQAM in Valve's FPS game, but their request was met with a firm rejection."
2013-02-19 14:19
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Denmark quiZDK
Well. Canada has it's right to take actions against this. The producers asked for permission, but got rejected BUT THEY STILL PRODUCED THE MAP. Eventhough it's only a computer game map, the idea of creating it was rejected.
2013-02-19 14:21
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Russia Saint1
if im not mistaken STM is a public company, which means they receive funding from the city which is taken from municipal taxes. so technically the people own the metro, and they didnt need to ask anyone for permission
2013-02-19 15:03
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Norway ola nordmann
this is law by logic, not law by reality.
2013-02-19 18:20
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Slovakia Fetrvewtweb
sick people, ridiculous brain there lol rly fucktards
2013-02-19 14:27
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Germany Dok1
name it different, change some mapdesign elements and there you go...
2013-02-19 14:29
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Belgium Zapper1337
hehe indeed xD
2013-02-19 14:37
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Germany VxO4
exactly just call it de_subway and here we go.
2013-02-19 15:35
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Finland CaB456
This is just so stupid that its actually funny haha
2013-02-19 14:37
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United Kingdom 911^NEmeSis
I wonder how many real terrorist wanna use this to plan their attacks.
2013-02-19 14:45
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Czech Republic MisuL
Who would even play this map?
2013-02-19 14:53
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Poland Morferes
yep, they should make de_pentagon instead
2013-02-19 17:51
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Other perfekto
They should have been fined for making terrible maps
2013-02-19 14:47
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Slovakia crushyou
yea whole taliban is playing cs:go in some cave
2013-02-19 14:52
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3 replies
lold
2013-02-19 14:57
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#67
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Latvia dudarsky
I read somewhere that taliban enjoyed playing COD :D
2013-02-19 15:06
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Other Chuckeee
lol? their 8 to 20 years old children learn to behead Pakistani and other locals, why would they wanna play cod? They ARE F*CKING SICK PEOPLE This month due to f*cking taliban, over 700 people killed in bombing attacks in Peshawar and Quetta.
2013-02-21 15:42
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United Kingdom Alth
The government believes anybody who plays that map in counterstrike will want to replicate what they did in the real life version. Cos games make you shoot people right.
2013-02-19 14:57
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Finland DessuHopo
seems like montreal city council is full of 1.6 fanboys who dont want cs:go to succeed :(
2013-02-19 14:57
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Canada csdracon
no but they do hand over construction contracts to mobsters in exchange for money.
2013-02-20 03:19
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link for the map?:P
2013-02-19 15:02
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India xypnexfan.ftw
at first i thought valve was gonna sue them xD
2013-02-19 15:03
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World ashhh
lol?
2013-02-19 15:04
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Latvia dudarsky
Retarded people are retarded.
2013-02-19 15:06
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Canada legenDz
i live 10 min away from that metro lmao fkn french government is really fucked here in quebec, you need fluint french to get a job here its annoying
2013-02-19 15:12
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Romania TRS1906
2013-02-19 16:06
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Spain lolfake
hilarious XD
2013-02-20 04:13
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Hungary Gergely Szabo
And the map is not even good, omg. They are serious retards.
2013-02-19 15:12
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Canada EgeS
LMAO I take that metro station everyday. Going to be fun playing this map tonight.
2013-02-19 15:13
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Canada rbx
likewise!!
2013-02-19 18:26
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Korea ws0
+1
2013-02-19 20:08
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Slovakia xarc
cool story bro
2013-02-19 15:14
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United Kingdom NipXe
crazy haha
2013-02-19 15:15
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Denmark mAik1337
i shit myself laughing.
2013-02-19 15:26
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Poland Marcines
HAHA
2013-02-19 15:29
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Brazil 4venger
lolololol
2013-02-19 15:34
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Good, I'm glad this happend.
2013-02-19 15:34
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Romania Selo2000
lol why they asked for permission in the first place? is not like they are making a movie :D
2013-02-19 15:44
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Other skaven
lol
2013-02-19 15:47
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Norway duffz00r
:0
2013-02-19 15:47
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Canada brazy21
STM must have touched the bottom to sue Average People for 50k(i doubt they have the money to pay that), and how the fk can they think you can 'practice' a terrorist attack on Counter strike... I dont really think pre fire corner while 'strafing' would be a good idea against real cops
2013-02-19 16:03
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just make some small adjustments that don't affect the playing experience of the map and change the color of the train and you're done.
2013-02-19 16:03
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Argentina HH Sebax
I create the map of my school two years ago, now i'm afraid D:
2013-02-19 16:06
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Canada EgeS
Reported to the police. Gl in prison.
2013-02-19 16:12
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Brazil 4venger
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2013-02-19 16:17
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#152
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Argentina HH Sebax
HAHA I saw this coming
2013-02-19 18:30
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#103
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Poland TeddyPL
Yep, that is valuable info for real terrorists to know beforehand where CT spawn is thus from where CT is going to enter the station.
2013-02-19 16:13
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Germany VxO4
loool
2013-02-19 16:26
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Estonia UFRAG.ee/ampsu
Well, this map cant be 100% identical?
2013-02-19 16:14
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Canada csdracon
not if they used hammer.exe to make it. that thing is older than time.
2013-02-20 03:25
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Estonia UFRAG.ee/ampsu
Some details are 100% different and they can use it in court if they must.
2013-02-20 18:32
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Germany focus~
looks really poorly made anyway and probably not a good competitive map soo...
2013-02-19 16:15
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Slovakia ABzV
Lol i was about to create a map based on my school :D
2013-02-19 16:52
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World nuzb6c!t!6q
good story bro LOL xD
2013-02-19 16:56
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Europe hest1
i dont understand... you can see the whole metrostation in pictures at google anyway
2013-02-19 17:31
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United Kingdom Weberr
2013-02-19 17:56
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Ireland dAND3h
I feel sick.
2013-02-21 15:41
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#154
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Poland whOoOzAAA
Why the fuck would they need permission anyway? Stupidest thing I ever heard.
2013-02-19 18:44
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Canada EL_BURRITO
Ridiculous.. lmao
2013-02-19 19:29
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Korea ws0
Funny stuff, and the STM are dbags anyway stick it to their face!
2013-02-19 20:20
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#166
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Czech Republic vesicz
Ultra mega shhit map for idiots. Ridicule for counter strike. Who created this map is heavily restricted individual who has never played this game
2013-02-19 20:13
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Korea dafNaY
they just have to apologise...
2013-02-19 20:28
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India dragonnn
has any1 played vcop 2? looks like
2013-02-21 15:27
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#182
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Slovenia vegetko
great, sue them because real terrorists play cs:go. they have just bought new computers so they can play it.
2013-02-21 16:00
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Anders Breivik got MVP award from Zion activist for insane 1v78 clutch in Norway (2011).
2013-02-21 16:07
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United States nounsense
laws exist for a reason. in this (trivial) case they knowingly broke the law, and planned to do so. the fact they were aware of the law, attempted to negate the law (with permission) says they don't give a shit what the law dictates, or respect the owners decision to decline their request. e.g. walking out of a store and forgetting to pay for something vs stealing they are stealing.
2013-02-22 07:54
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Canada brazy21
its a PUBLIC place
2013-02-23 10:12
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