Quantic, Epsilon with big wins

29-3-2013 17:16

Quantic Gaming have guaranteed a top two placing in group D aftera 2-1 win versus ALTERNATE (19-17, 14-16, 16-7) while Epsilon have upset Na`Vi 2-1 (16-13, 12-16, 16-13) in group B.

Quantic Gaming started off with a close 7-8 half versus ALTERNATE on de_inferno_se's terrorist side. Kory "semphis" Friesen's four pistol round headshots gave the North American side control, and they took the lead briefly.

After trading more rounds, Quantic found themselves up 14-12 before the Germans won three in a row to force map point. Quantic tied the game, and wound up winning in overtime after two 2-1 halves.

Second map, de_nuke_se, was an altogether different story. ALTERNATE racked up a massive lead on the terrorist side of the map, scoring twelve rounds on the much harder side.

hiko's Quantic came through despite struggling in ALTERNATE match

Quantic were able to bring the score back to 14-15, but this time the German side led by Manuel "mnL" Oberlain was able to secure the map win with a score of 16-14 to bring the series to a third map.

Final map de_train_se wasn't at all as close as the first two, as the North American squad started their terrorist side with a strong 6-0 run, eventually finishing with ten rounds.

ALTERNATE attempted yet another comeback in the second half, but this time they were denied by strong SCAR play by Carey "frozt" Kertenian among others, as Quantic won 16-7 for a 2-1 overall win.

Copenhagen Games 2013Best of 3

Quantic

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29th March 2013

ALTERNATE aTTaX

Inferno_se

Nuke_se

Train_se

Meanwhile Natus Vincere matched up with Epsilon, whose reputation certainly precedes them, at least online. The young Swedes showed impressive play in Copenhagen though, having already taken a map from fnatic earlier.

This time they would start the series versus Na`Vi with a strong performance on de_train_se, where they managed to clinch a close 16-13 win after trading rounds at the end.

Second map de_mirage_go was all Yegor "markeloff" Markelov. The best player in 2010 showed he still has it in CS:GO, racking up a 19/5 score on the counter-terrorist side as Na`Vi went up 10-5.

Epsilon thrilled after beating Na´Vi

Epsilon came close to mounting a comeback in the second half, but Markelov contributed another good performance with a 13/7 score, totaling at 32/12 for +20, to tie the series with a 16-12 win.

Final map of the series, as it was for Na`Vi in Vienna versus VeryGames, was de_inferno_se. Once again Na`Vi struggled, this time as counter-terrorists, and their B pushes led to a 4-11 deficit.

Thanks to a pistol round win as terrorists they were able to claw their way back into the game in the second half, but they wouldn't get close than 13-16 as Epsilon would surprise everyone by a 2-1 upset win in Copenhagen.

Copenhagen Games 2013Best of 3

Natus Vincere

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29th March 2013

Epsilon

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Mirage_ce

Inferno_se

Quantic Gaming have now guaranteed a top two placing in group D and will face off against Temp.no for the first seed soon. Na`Vi can only hope for a BX3 upset versus Epsilon, or to make top two through a three-way tie in group B.

nice

2013-03-29 17:17

now fnatic will rape navi

2013-03-29 17:18

Cheaters WON! HAHA. In ur butt...

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Cheaters with a new lineup to be precise

2013-03-29 17:19

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so sad mad bro

2013-03-29 17:29

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Read again

2013-03-29 17:32

idiot.

2013-03-29 18:57

LOL EPSILON?!

NaVi top100 Europe

HAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Epsilon big win? no

2013-03-29 17:20

like i said before is time to ESC and NAVI quit

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both in past

2013-03-29 18:23

quantic vs alternate was epic:)

go epsilon

2013-03-29 17:21

NaVi low :/

2013-03-29 17:22

Epsilon stronk lurppis wronk

Haha

2013-03-29 17:23

Hacjs on LAN? Hope this puts the default.cheat comments at bay x)

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the guy who was supposedly caught cheating wasn't even playing... plus, this event is byoc. besides, epsilon online would have demolished na`vi 2-0 with scores of like 16-5 each, they are still clearly worse on lan, although much better than anyone (yours truly included) expected

2013-03-29 17:26

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youmad XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2013-03-29 17:33

stfu. gg Epsilon.

2013-03-29 17:35

I guess that you may feel annoyed by the ignorance of several users here on the site, but I see no reason for you to drop to their level by making a pretty dumb comment. It's nice that you take your time to answer and so on. Furthermore I think, that given previous accusations you should be man enough to admit, that you were wrong, and face the fact that these Epsilon guys are very good.

2013-03-29 17:37

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they are better than i expected, but they aren't "very good" but any means based on a win vs na`vi. i'm pretty sure if this event wasn't byoc epsilon would've been raped.

2013-03-29 17:42

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You might be right, neither of us can and will ever know how they would have done, if this wasn't byoc, and perhaps they aren't "very good", but at least they have a pretty high level of skill, considered that they just beat Na´Vi, and they were able to play a very close match against fnatic. My comment wasn't meant to be offending in any way, I just thought, that I would let you know, that it's foolish to deal with these kind of guys on their level, which in my opinion is somewhere near the bottom of the scale.

2013-03-29 17:49

Just accept you were wrong. I have, the majority were, including yourself.

2013-03-29 17:50

i was wrong, but they are also wrong with how much they are hyping epsilon now. then again words have zero meaning in today's society so i guess it shouldn't really matter. in the 60s you'd say it was amazing that america put people on the moon, today similar people would say their fast food was amazing. what can you do.

2013-03-29 17:52

What would you define as good then? They almost beat fnatic taking them to extremely close maps. They DID beat Na'Vi. Teams that boast immensely more experienced LAN players than Epsilon, and in the case of Na'Vi, been together for god knows how long. Of course they aren't going to reminisce their previous online results of 16-7 shut outs or so considering the amount of pressure and experience they are up against. At the end of the day, I was damn sure they as a team cheated, and maybe they even did, but they have shown they can put in massive performances at LAN up against the best.

2013-03-29 17:59

neither fnatic nor na`vi have proven to be super good teams in cs:go, despite their experience etc in cs 1.6. only two teams who are consistently playing at a very good level are verygames and nip, everyone else seems very random at this stage in the game.

2013-03-29 18:01

what difference does byoc make?

2013-03-29 17:51

i can speak for myself because i've played byoc tournaments (cpl world tour: barcelona qualifier for instance) and real touranments early on in my career (same weekend; my first international events in april[?] 2005) i was not nervous at all in a byoc qualifier because it's exactly like home -- you get to play as much csdm and warmup as you want, be on the computer all day, feel comfortable in the area etc. in a real tournament you setup, you get 15 minutes to warmup, and you go live. it's a totally different ballgame.

2013-03-29 17:54

so what the fuck is the problem? they went through byoc and now they played at the tournament computers just like navi. they had no advantage. face it, they are not cheating. so what if they've been playing better online? they are better online, true, but that's because they don't have as much experience on lan plus everybody are calling them cheaters so they have even more pressure on them at lans. you can't just call them cheaters 'cause they're playing good online, people need to come with some actual proof.

2013-03-29 18:09

they are still playing in the byoc, just like everyone else. the entire copenhagen games event is one huge byoc. i stopped reading at that point.

2013-03-29 18:10

What if they have rental pc's ?

2013-03-29 18:26

same thing, they still get to play on them all day and feel super comfortable just like at home. in normal tournaments you get 15-30mins to setup and warmup before going live, which is a totally different scenario

2013-03-29 18:27

what is BYOC?

2013-03-29 18:31

bring your own computer

2013-03-29 18:38

ty! so maybe they can cheat on LAN? whats the difference, i think CPH computers are good enough..

2013-03-29 18:47

hey knobhead, Fnatic won against epsilon online pretty easily, but on lan they struggled against Epsilon. (could go either way)

umadbra!1!1!

Is there a reason that there is no scoreboard except for 1 match?

2013-03-29 18:18

what do you mean by scoreboard?

2013-03-29 18:19

Sorry, the live scoreboards of the matches.

i have no idea tbh, i left a msg to our people on-site but they are really busy with stuff so no reply yet edit: copenhagen games admins set some servers up wrong, so we don't have access to that info from every server

It's working for most of the matches now. :)

2013-03-29 18:29

So, how do you explain that Epsilon lost against fnatic with more online than on LAN? :))

2013-03-29 19:43

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they were probably nervous because they are swedish, so it wouldn't surprise me if they looked up to fnatic. same goes for nip, they were absolutely dominated online in that rc ems one cup final by them, so they were probably just nervous in those games because of the name power nip/fnatic bring.

2013-03-29 19:52

Hard do read? They got more rounds vs fnatic on LAN than they did on the internet. :)

2013-03-29 20:16

that just means they had a bad match vs fnatic on the internet. their top level they've shown online is still infinitely better than what they've shown on lan.

2013-03-29 20:23

they had a bad match vs navi on LAN to, they would have won with 16-0 16-0 if they had a good match. :)

2013-03-30 14:46

they played very similar versus both fnatic and na`vi (and esc later on), so i doubt it. fail logic.

2013-03-30 14:51

Im not saying theyre all a hundred percent clean but its kinda harsh to bend the entire team over a barrel for every match they play. And its common for young players without loads of lan exp to not get the level they do online until after a few events :p

2013-03-29 20:10

i don't recall ever even calling them cheaters, but i do stand by my opinion that they are better at home, especially xelos/lox who are struggling vs berry's team in the easiest group.

2013-03-29 20:22

Yeah but for some players that could just be a matter of time/getting LAN exp

2013-03-29 21:28

...which is exactly my point...

2013-03-29 21:39

ah allright :>

2013-03-29 22:38

blah. blah. blah. blah. blah.

2013-03-29 22:41

Not even 2 weeks practise with new lineup, stomping the old gods. Go home NaVi

who cares about new lineup, they're just much better aimers

2013-03-29 17:27

NaVi dead!

2013-03-29 17:28

BYOC? Nah, GG guys. Impressive

How does it feel, lurppis?

how does what feel? my good friends quantic advancing as first seed? i'm happy for them, thanks for asking

yet again they have to beat temp.no (as you predicted last in the group and now will play playoffs even if they win or lose against the americans). As i said in an earlier news, you dont have any insight what so ever in the norwegian scene.

how would i have any insight into the norwegian scene? they are complete punching bags in every event they play in, that's all i can go with. so far to me all that means is alternate was bad, not that temp was good. fm.toxic was a toss up the whole time due to roster changes etc.

2013-03-29 17:38

Maybe some of the other norwegian teams, but temp has played as much as possible online and have proven themself there for a while now in a few good leagues and quals. So what you say is that Quantic is just as bad since alternate got one map against them and all the maps were so close? Your logic makes me sick! But thanks for the replay, made my day. Once again you show me that even a kid with two years of experience in the scene would have a more fair mind and a greater logic than yours. Even a bigger insight!

2013-03-29 17:48

what exactly are their good results in leagues and qualifiers? please, tell me. quantic has had good results in the past which suggests to me they can improve later in the day, whereas temp probably are playing closer to their cap. kapish?

BYOC? Probably cheating, haha. Great matches anyway :) GG WP!

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It's BYOC on rent computers. Just sayin'.

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You CAN rent computers, if you don't have yours. But you can still bring your own.

2013-03-29 18:05

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Can almost guarantee you, they rented computers.

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Well, I'm waiting for your proof then. Until then...^^

2013-03-29 18:20

Same screens, same computer cases... coincidence? I think not. :) piclair.com/fh5of

2013-03-29 18:22

Hm, sorry but that's no proof at all. Sponsors exist to provide material for their teams. A proof would be a picture of another team having the same computers as them.

You can clearly see NaVi in front of Epsilon with the exact same computer cases. Now go home, your drunk.

We must not have the same definition of "clearly" then ^^. Don't be too bias and present a real proof to back up your statements if you want to be believed. But I sure appreciate your concern for my health.

2013-03-29 18:32

So your telling me that Epsilon's computer cases are like a half meter wide? Here's a better picture: images.fragbite.com/img.archives/cphgame..

2013-03-29 18:36

Now that's better :).

2013-03-29 18:40

they are using their own computers.

2013-03-29 19:15

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You sir, are stupid.

2013-03-29 19:25

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How so, tell me more, Mr intelligent :)

2013-03-29 19:53

There's no more explaining to do, your just stupid... thats it.

2013-03-29 21:01

Nice arguments sir, so I can say you're a mother fuker, it is true? :)

2013-03-29 21:16

you realise that its a BYOC ?

2013-03-29 21:25

Please read the other 5 comments above before posting.

2013-03-29 21:36

so what have the other comments to do with what i told you , that this tournament is BYOC ?

2013-03-29 21:50

Well they are not using their own computers if thats what you are trying to say.

2013-03-29 21:58

oh navi...

Navi onliners.

Gotta love to see underdogs beating the giants

where the haters at huh i cant hear you ahahhaha

2013-03-29 17:30

Quantic with a big win? really? Lurppis and HLTV.org predicted temp.no as 4th in the group and now they have won pretty comfortable against fm toxic and alternate with a 2-1 win against both, two teams that have had seeds from the very beginning. Yet again, the norwegians without seed and was predicted last have completed the group and will continue into the playoffs with maybe a 1st place if they win against Quantic now, something this team clearly can for sure. Pretty impressive dont you think? This should be the news you wrote, not about quantic in my opinion. But hey, they should get some credit for what they have achieved. I think a top4 placement for these guys are not out of sight if they get the 1st place in the group. Well done boys!

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hahah top4 tnx for jokE;P

2013-03-29 17:34

If they win against Quantic, they will meet a 2nd winner team. then they are already top8 if they win that match so yeah, it is possible with some kind of luck.

2013-03-29 17:36

actually they can still easily lose if they face a second place team (epsilon/navi, lemondogs/3dmax, curse.na, esc, either wolves team, curse, xapso) and even if they do win, they would only have 9-12th guaranteed. it's double elim.

2013-03-29 17:40

Yeah i just noticed the double elimination. Yeah there is some good teams but nothing i cant see is impossible for temp. But with even a 9-12th placement at this lan must be surprising for the most viewers and players.

it's an okay placing for a team like temp.no, but then again anyone can make top12 through lower bracket if they just play a few good games. in my opinion only results that matter are top3 like placings when teams beat multiple good teams and prove they are good, or weak teams upsetting good teams, which proves the weak teams aren't as weak as we thought. epsilon would fall under that category, whereas i'm not that surprised over alternate losing to tempno.

2013-03-29 17:56

against quantic? never happens , but you are right temp.no was awesome and deserves to mention.

Dont write it completely off yet.

that's why it's called "PREDICTION" and not "VIEW OF THE FUTURE"

And I am not allowed to replay to his prediction when i know it is completely wrong?

2013-03-29 17:53

thought you should know, quantic won first map 16-9.

Can anyone tell me what BYOC is??

2013-03-29 17:31

Bring Your Own Computers = BYOC...

images.wikia.com/glee/images/6/68/Crying..

epsilon isnt cheating and im pretty sure xelos wasnt cheating either

while cen9 in the team navi won't be even in top8

yeah ceh9 is bad

lurppis your a stupid kid, just admit that your wrong? There is very few teams that play better on lan and these few teams are the very top teams who have been playing on alot more lan events and big events then the guys in Epsilon have. Ofcourse they are going to play better on internet? Just like in 1.6 you talk alot and can never admit that a "newcomer" is better until they win WCG ESWC CPL CPGH!

those are the very few teams i respect. why do you care about my opinion so much? i don't care what you think, so you shouldn't care what i think either

2013-03-29 18:02

So much? First time im posting on something you give your opinion on, but whatever you act like a kid online. And i wouldnt care if you werent acting like a knowitall and involved in the media part of cs:go.

2013-03-29 18:49

the reason he and many of us care is simply because you have the 'admin' ability to share your thoughts/oppinions to the world, creating topics here on hltv.org on the main page so everyone (thousands of people) can see and believe you. The main point out of all that here is that by sharing your own opinion with the world here you making other countries/teams look bad in other people's eyes, and it looks even worse when your predictions fail...which happens quiet often :( Just take the resent prediction regarding your thought over ESC, VP, NaVi - you 100% failed...

2013-03-29 18:55

cs:go is super random beyond nip and vg so you might as well flip a point for most results. my predictions are based on the past results, which is all i can go with. if teams fail to live up to them, there's nothing i can do about it. i'm not going to start guessing matches based on no evidence.

2013-03-29 19:31

VeryGames Match result didnt show up 14:30 29/3 Copenhagen Games VeryGames vs iRAGE 1.05 1 Pending Even though match is over and result showed on site and match page,the betting system didnt count that and still showing as pending. I need that match entered so i can bet on play-offs,please fix it ASAP

lurppis you suck you dont even play go so stfu

that first quantic win on iferno wasnt deserved at all, they've played and then lied cuz they lost the round "were not rdy" gg fairplay?

epsilon very impressive so far. is it too late to jump on the epsilon bandwagon???

2013-03-29 17:58

Join us against the haters, mate.

CS:GO scene is so random.. top teams loosing to noobs

mad ukrainian.

2013-03-29 19:49

15% of all comments here is lurppis :D

Na'Vi will NOT succeed in GO. I told you.

well done Epsilon :D

wasnt really a surprise though :( Techlabs showed that neither ESC nor NaVi were really prepared for this even though many did say TECHLABS was random, but as we can see now it's not the case...and the result proving this was ESC losing 2:0 to mouz today and NaVi loosing to EPSILON... gl in lower bracket though...hope NaVi and ESC can make it out and I wanna see the accused in cheating Swedes to make it out of the groups...they look really promising!!!

Esbilon playing strong even without cheating players and instead new ones.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS CHEATS IT IS ALL JUST PROPAGANDA!

2013-03-29 18:45

GJ QUANTIC!

2013-03-29 18:48

navi will not pass group :/

HAHA where are now noobs who scream Epsilon Are Cheaters and can play only online. Get Skills Bith.. Epsi go for top 3 :)

2013-03-29 18:56

they cheated online nevertheless lol,they changed lineup before lan xD

2013-03-29 21:38

I really hope Epsilon can establish themselves on the top

2013-03-29 19:10

gl eps/quan

2013-03-29 19:34

everyone except lurppis and big noobs knows that epsilon playin clean online. :)

it's not like navi is any good lol. they got raped in techlabs

2013-03-29 21:00

yea, but there recent success online is misleading.

2013-03-29 21:22

Seriously haha, this LURPIS kid made my day. What a fking child. Biggest kid ive ever seen on the internet. Unfortunately he looks acts exacly how he looks. Like a fkin 12 year old kid. gaming.fi/uutiskuvat/uutinen_d600c99818e.. Kid plz go home to mom and beg her to teach you how to ride a bike without the side wheels.

2013-03-29 22:45