NiP, Quantic and Na`Vi prevail at Cph

29-3-2013 22:06

NiP has demolished Curse 2-0 (16-4, 16-2), Quantic Gaming has defeated Temp.no (16-9, 16-14) and Na`Vi has outlasted fnatic after a three map thriller (10-16, 16-6, 22-18) at Copenhagen Games.

NiP finished up their group stage run in Copenhagen with their most dominating win yet, suggesting they were probably holding back in their earlier 2-0 bouts versus EYES ON U and myRevenge.

This time it was, at least mostly, all business, as the Swedes completely annihilated the Finnish Curse squad, leaving fans wondering if they would ever see Curse play as well as they did at THOR Open versus NiP.

friberg's NiP continue dominant performances

Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg and company won eleven terrorist rounds on de_dust2_se and followed up that up with a five to nil counter-terrorist side, quickly putting themselves up one nothing in maps.

Second map, de_nuke_se, would prove to be even more dominant, as NiP completely demolished any hopes Curse might have had of taking a map from the Swedes, scoring 13 rounds as terrorists en route to a 16-2 win.

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Natus Vincere struggled once again early on as they took on fnatic. Starting as counter-terrorists on de_mirage_go didn't allow the Ukrainians the kind of start they would have liked, as they found themselves trailing 4-11 at half.

fnatic lost their pistol round and their lead went to 11-7 in the second half, but good teamwork and a one-on-two AWP clutch by Michael "Friis" Jorgensen quickly made it 14-7.

Na`Vi won the next three rounds, but another clutch by Jorgensen, this time with his P2000 versus Sergey "starix" Ischuk, gave fnatic map point. They would only need one, as they won the following round and the map, 16-10.

With their backs against the wall, Na`Vi seemed to finally wakeup and had a solid defensive half, as they were able to score ten rounds, which for once gave them a lead heading into the second half.

Xyp9x's fnatic couldn't overcome Na`Vi this time

An inner attack gave Na`Vi pistol, and Danilo "Zeus" Teslenko's two AK47 kills made it 14-5. fnatic won one more round, but ultimately it was Natus Vincere who claimed a 16-6 win to force a third map.

Third map saw fnatic seize control once again, as they won the pistol round and kept winning rounds on both bombsites, with Martin "trace" Heldt getting a one-on-two to push his score to 10/0 as his team went up 7-0.

fnatic would match Heldt's score in their lead before Na`Vi won their first three, but overaggressive play allowed fnatic to win a two-on-four on the next round, giving them eleven in the first half.

Na`Vi won the first three as terrorists, but fnatic replied with two of their own to make it 13-7. Teslenko then out-smarted fnatic with a clever walk up strategy to top of A, giving them a win on a semi-buy round.

A couple of rounds later Teslenko then had a smart move in a two-on-three on top of the A bombsite, while his teammate Markelov won Na`Vi the round in a one-on-one, scoring his twenty-sixth kill of the map.

fnatic's four A setup was then surprised by Na`Vi's B attack, tying the game at thirteen. Na`Vi then kept abusing Andreas "MODDII" Fridh on the B bombsite, winning two more rounds as Fridh was unable to score a kill, making it 13-15.

Edward had some big rounds in overtime

Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev ran out of time on round twenty-nine, while Markelov couldn't connect on hislast bullet in the final round, and fnatic were able to force overtime.

Sukhariev made up for his mishap in round one, as he took over long A with four kills. Round two went to fnatic, but Na`Vi kept their lead by creeping up catwalk and winning the final round of the first overtime half.

The winner couldn't be determined in the first overtime, as Na`Vi were unable to close the map out despite two game points after the first round they won, with Heldt winning a key one-on-one on the third round.

fnatic wasn't at all prepared for what Na`Vi threw at them next, super aggressive CT paly, and the Ukrainians snagged a 3-0 lead. The Ukrainians kept abusing fnatic's weak B bombsite and finally won the game, 22-18 on de_dust2_se and 2-1 overall.

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Quantic Gaming contrinued where they left off on de_train_se versus Temp.no, as they rallied to a very strong terrorist side performance once again, this time finishing with nine rounds.

The Norwegians attempted to get back into the game in the second half, but Spencer "hiko" Martin wouldn't allow it, as he helped his team clinch the required seven rounds for a 16-9 victory.

DaZeD's Quantic march on with a top seed

Jon "DaY" Thomas Rudstrom's squad played much better on de_dust2_se, where they executed a well planned terrorist side and escaped to an impressive 11-4 lead at half.

However, Quantic weren't going to give up that easily, as they quickly won the pistol round. Due to Copenhagen Games' issues we don't know what exactly happened in the second half, but Quantic Gaming went onto win 16-14, 2-0 overall.

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NiP and Quantic Gaming both won their respective groups, while Na`Vi fall to third place due to the default map loss they received versus BX3, and will have to fight their way back from the lower bracket.

2013-03-29 22:06

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copenhagengames.com/page/minimum-delay buahahahaahha

2013-03-29 22:21

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So? There is delay because the internet crashed, not because the teams was late?

2013-03-29 22:58

Nice:D

This stupid default map loss...

2013-03-29 22:07

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Stupid by Navi yes. Instead of acting like little princesses expecting special treatment they should have done like all the other teams did and showed up on time. "Boohoo, we were late and the admins actually punished us for it, so unfair :((((" No other teams had issues showing up on time, only the ukrainian princesses did.

2013-03-29 23:08

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Welcome to Ukraine

2013-03-29 23:12

miss

2013-03-29 23:18

You were there? You EXACTLY know what happend? So, please, leave your thoughts about this situation with yourself. :)

2013-03-29 23:19

ALL Other teams showed up on time. Na'Vi didn't. How the fk is that the events fault?

2013-03-29 23:21

drink some rum

2013-03-29 23:30

hot match NAVI nice!!!

2013-03-29 22:08

sad na vi in lower bracket

lower? u mad?

2013-03-29 22:09

Bad Luck Navi :(

"Na`Vi fall to third place due to the default map loss" this is so fucking retarded

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Well, they lost to epsilon. So not really...

by navi yes

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hltv.org/news/10340-navi-bx3-default-is-..

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excuses. navi stupid :)

2013-03-29 22:11

Na'vi lost to epsilon. Why should they go through to the upper bracket when epsilon obviously is a better team? (even tho it was because of a default loss) They did not deserve to be in the upper bracket.

2013-03-29 22:12

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#22

Doesn't make sense dude. First you say something, then 2 minutes later you're saying something completely different...

2013-03-29 22:14

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lol wut? a u drunk?

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You're the one who're drunk my friend.

2013-03-29 22:15

Wait a sec, you're telling why Na'Vi shouldn't advance to upper bracket because they lost to Epsilon? What it your point here? They clearly won against Fnatic, so your point is that Epsilon > Na'Vi > Fnatic.. This is your point atm.

2013-03-29 23:09

Navi freaking sucked, just accept it.

2013-03-29 23:05

2013-03-29 22:13

then fnatic fnatic don't deserve it neither

2013-03-29 22:19

Na'Vi won against fnatic, so why not fnatic in losers bracket, huh?

2013-03-29 22:16

fnatic lost to navi. Why shoud they go through to the upper bracket when navi obviously is a better team? They did not deserve to be in the upper bracket.

Well, if you can't keep to the timeline. Then you're punished. Simple as that, would have done the exact same thing.

2013-03-29 22:17

Why even have the tournament when you "obiviously" know the winner already?

2013-03-29 23:06

T_T

So it's okey to not be there on time? Delaying the event in the first group match?

2013-03-29 22:20

And all the navi players are blind to double check themselves? copenhagengames.com/images/program_large.. Not so hard, was it?

2013-03-29 22:22

you just mad navi won fnatic therefore they're a better team and fnatic did not deserve to be in the upper bracket where's logic?

2013-03-29 22:28

retarded ? they lost to epsilon anyway , dont deserve the second spot

2013-03-29 22:10

by they won vs fnatic so why "dont deserv"? and u think epsilon bad team? 14-16 13-16 vs fnatic

Fnatic saved strats when match was of no use.. ??????

2013-03-29 22:18

"was of no use"? 3 team have 6 points and fnatic go up just coz def lose

After fnatic won mirage, navi could no longer gain enough map points to secure the 2nd place. I think would have been different game if fnatic was not secured upper playoff

YES STRAT SAVE GOOD NICE

2013-03-29 22:29

they should have come on time instead of showing up at 10 when matches were supposed to start at 10

2013-03-29 22:40

dAAAAAAAAAAA-NaVi !!

We will never hear the end of that default loss. No matter how we look at it, rules or what - this is just not fair regarding the game. I'm all for trying to cut down the delays, but this isn't the way. Fine them money, but defaulting maps that can cause this to happen in the most exciting group, not the way to go.

This

Actually, it IS the way to go. Punish the serial offenders where it really hurts. Na'vi, ESC and some other teams(such as MtW back in the days) were always fucking rude and annoying, causing massive delays etc. Give them some actual penalties, and that's what happened today. It was ridiculous when Cogu complained during ESWC(When they were the only team to fuck up), and it's equally ridiculous now that Na'vi is complaining(the only team to fuck up), begging for special treatment. Every other team managed to find out when to be there, and to be prepared. Why couldn't Na'vi?

2013-03-29 23:02

Well that would be alright if eSports events could once be ran good. CPH Games has been fucked in so many ways. Just of the top of my head "losing" Quantic's invite, not using Matchmedic yesterday in Quantic's game and today the network crash. And also the fact that NaVi say that the admins told them to show up at 10. Now we'll leave that up to debate. But when you can't run an event pin point, don't force teams to get defaults because they run a little late, and the reason being miscommunication. Now I have no idea if NaVi or the admins are telling the truth about the situation, or what went down. But don't make these huge calls on things like this when you don't run the event a 100% And even another thing to point out is how amazingly favorable all the groups for the danish teams where. We will never know, but eSports isn't run like sporting events, so they have no right to be strict on some rules and not others.

2013-03-29 23:26

First of all: If you have to ask the organisers _at the same day you're supposed to be there_, you're either a fucking druggie, or just a plain asshole who's not done proper preparation. As for "losing" Quantic's invite, that still does not invalidate penalizing Na'vi. The network crash can be because of external factors, such as their provider losing a route, or many other factors, and doesn't invalidate it either. Fact is, Na'vi have a long history of delays, and other plainly asshole-ish behaviour. They should be happy that they weren't penalized like in a real sport, where the entire match would have been considered a walk-over. And yes, the organisation SHOULD make these huge calls, because that means there's at least one organisation out there that's at least willing to try and shape up. They have EVERY right to run their organisation as they wish. If they are tired of cunts behaving like assholes, they are free to penalize them.

2013-03-29 23:42

They showed up at 8 and asked where there computers where. They where told it wasn't ready and to report back at 10. Read the news where markeloff tells that. But I guess you don't believe that so there is no point in talking about it.

2013-03-30 00:02

nip only played bobs..except curse but they played like shit vs nip

every1 is a bob compared to nip

nah, soon they will be beaten

"Na`Vi fall to third place due to the default map loss they received versus BX3" Payback from ghosting and kicking SK's computer. KARMA IS A BITCH UKRAINE

there is no need to tell anything except that you like rattlesnake

Speak english please.

2013-03-29 23:07

Goooo NaVi and NiP :D

I love NAVI

they still lost to epsilon lol.... who cares

omg wtf fnatic? hope this was just a small stumble.. cmon!

that picture of xyp9x YA DUN GOOFED

It's always becomes a great show when Navi and fnatic play against each other! Though I normally don't enjoy following CS:GO matches, that match was pretty entertaining. But it's a fucking joke that Navi must go to the lower bracket just because of that default map lose. And no, I'm not a "Navi fanboy".

REALLY? total bullshit

why all the teams got to the venue in time except navi?

so sad they didn't deserve to fall into losers bracket :(

If teams are tied on points in any group stage the standing between these teams will be decided firstly by the result of the match between the teams concerned, then by points differential in the matches between the teams concerned and then by points differential in all matches concerning the teams in question. 1. navi 2. epsilon 3. fnatic * This is if actual round difference and not just map difference is taken into consideration. The rules are not clear on this, so will be interesting to see how it is done by admins ;>

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where it is written. i mean rounds difference (not maps)

The first part is what the rules say @ cph. They are pretty unclear on what "points" mean in this context, so the question is whether "points" is only referring to maps won or to rounds won on the maps. From the sound of it they are now counting rounds though, so it looks like navi are going through from what I heard. (Loads of people around the admin table right now xD)

it's encouraging

2013-03-29 22:34

Doesn't make sense.. NaVi won over fnatic but fnatic won Epsilon but Epsilon won over NaVi So ur point is wrong.

2013-03-29 22:24

he talks about round difference counting

2013-03-29 22:26

what's meant by "points"? map wins? if yes: all 3 teams would have a difference of 0..

2013-03-29 22:27

Yes and in that case they would go on to map wins from all group games which would put fnatic and epsilon on +2 and navi on +1. If its round wins then navi are #1 since they beat fnatic 16-6 on a map.

usually, the result of the match with the last team doesnt matter, dunno about this tourney it's like if a team lost every game they've played so far, their result doesnt matter for the arguing teams

We've rarely seen bo3 already in the group-stage though. So it depends on how they interpret the rules. If it's purely maps, firstly involving the three teams and then all four. Or if it's maps involving the three teams, and then rounds involving the three teams. It's not good enough that the rules are not clear on this to begin with though. But I'd definitely say that it's the rounds which count. Should always be the case that it's the internal matches broken down as much as possible. Anything else would not make sense.

2013-03-29 22:50

I agree, I think it should be round difference between the 3 teams before map difference in the entire group ;>

2013-03-29 22:59

Aye, you're right. They all won 2-1 over eachother. All in all they end with the following round-differences: NaVi: 90-84 Epsilon: 87-86 fnatic: 84-91

nice, man! atleast one the person who can see clear things

2013-03-29 22:31

i can too ))

2013-03-29 22:35

he's danish, so, you know...

2013-03-29 22:36

thanks for that one ;)

2013-03-29 22:37

not a problem, mate

2013-03-29 22:43

Ah, you meant I should've been biased. Hehe, nah, I just like the game. Although I'd like to see fnatic do well, fairplay is still the most important thing ;)

2013-03-29 22:54

navi needs to get their shit together,i dont wanna see them losing anymore!

this is where it all ends for the yanks

some retarded admin told na`vi to come a hour later then they should, and thats why navi in lower bracket now ((( sad ogranization. All of those who says that na`vi dont deserve a place in upper bracket is so weird ... 3 of 4 teams have 6 points, then how u can say who deserve and who dont ? morons

Na`Vi fall to third place due to the default map loss they received versus BX3, and will have to fight their way back from the lower bracket. NICE FU CPH

rofl navi have to fight through lower bracket because they couldn't get to the venue on time...

Great coverage so far, great effort on this article aswell. But one has to wonder just how biased HLTV.org can be at times. I mean, no news on VERYGAMES, Anexis, Wolves, mousesports - all topping their groups undefeated? And what does "Na´Vi prevail" really mean anyways here? Winning didn't change anything, neither for fnatic nor Na´Vi. Also, even if Na´Vi weren't given the default loss, are you sure that they would've come out of the group 1st or 2nd? It would have been a 3-way tie and it would've come down to other factors, so I'm not even sure the default map loss mattered.

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Na'Vi played impressively, they won rly hard and close game. NIP ofc, they are kings of the hill. Americans(Quantic) are played good too. Not many of us saw them comparing EU teams. SO.. Who cares 'bout Mouses, Wolves and Anexis? They passed not without troubles, but look @scores and make conclusions.

Well, first of all, a professional coverage (again, I am not saying this coverage isn't professional, maybe there's just a tad bit too much of lurppis in this news post particularly, but I'm sure the other results will be mentioned aswell later on so don't take me the wrong way) shouldn't care about what results they think are the ones people care most about. As far as results go, a coverage should simply be giving the overall statistics, not even mentioning a large chunk of the group results and instead saying Na´Vi prevailed here just seemed strange. Secondly, I do think people care about the other results aswell. The german stream had at times more viewers than the official stream, only falling second to the russian one. And no trouble at all? Anenix vs. Curse.NA wasn't a close game? mousesports upsetting ESC Gaming and providing their first good results @ LAN with their new lineup isn't noteworthy? Wolves, the second place finishers of the last major event keeping up the good work are not worthy of being mentioned here? All of this should be in a post group play wrap-up. However, I am certain there will be more news regarding this, so nothing to be arguing about really.

2013-03-29 22:48

NaVi moves on due to internal map and round difference between those three teams. And the group-stage only just ended. Surely there'll be more news as you say :)

Well, you of course couldn't have known, but Na´Vi doesn't move on to the upper bracket after all. The thing about Na´Vi being handed a map loss is obviously a shame, but I don't know exactly how everything went down, but what I do know is this: if the game between fnatic and Na´Vi had actually mattered, it would have been a different game (I'm not saying fnatic would have won, I am just saying that clearly fnatic didn't go all-out, assuming they had secured the top spot either way whereas Na´Vi had all reasons to give it their everything). The news regarding the group results are now also online and what can I say, they don't exactly look like it took as much effort to write them as opposed to this article, but whatever, if it's really just little things like this the coverage can improve on, then I guess that is a sign that there's not really anything to be really stressed about.

2013-03-29 23:31

I agree. The other matches should definitely have been covered better. There were a lot of interesting things to include, especially the things you already mentioned. So I'm as clueless as you when it comes to that part. Can only hope that we'll see more of a summary later on, but by now that's probably not happening :/ On the NaVi issue. Yea, I see that the CPH Games admins lost their good sense. I'm actually quite embarrassed about that. A three-way-tie should always be handled internally between the involved teams firstly. Meaning that as all the three tied teams beat eachother 2-1, it should then be broken down to round difference at all times before map points including the fourth team. And in that case it ended: NaVi: 90-84 Epsilon: 87-86 fnatic: 84-91 I'm a bit speechless when it comes to how the admins could go in any other direction. What a shame for such a tournament :/

2013-03-29 23:44

Indeed. I personally just wish for Na´Vi to fight their way into the playoffs and maybe even go all the way to write CS:GO history like they did in 1.6! :D The fact that Na´Vi's management contested the decision of the organisers right from the beginning when it didn't really seem like it would matter just goes to show how much of a disappointment this is, even more so considering the fact that BX3 shouldn't even play a role in the tie-deciding factors, like you mentioned. I have just read that Na´Vi left the tournament. Well, shit.

2013-03-30 00:07

Yea, a damn shame :/

2013-03-30 00:12

#43 didnt the yanks finish about your british teams? :p

"fnatic wasn't at all prepared for what Na`Vi threw at them next, super aggressive CT paly" - need to be fixed. Good game and well played! That -1 point situation for Na`Vi is really bad, shame on you organisation.

guys,when will be 2nd group stage?

Oh well, last year Na'Vi reached grand final from losers bracket, i hope they can repeat it this year

but navi is not very good in csgo

orgonizacia gavno !!!

Scumbag CPH Games: Punishes Na'Vi for arriving late Breaks down all matches in network freeze

Na'Vi played really hard today especially Fnatic vs Na'Vi really amazing match ! they tried to put all what they've learned and still have a chance GL Na'Vi