New update changes movement

27-9-2013 18:20

The latest update shipped by Valve for CS:GO has brought some important changes to the ingame movement.

From now on, player acceleration no longer follows a pre-established value, but is instead determined by the player's "active weapon max speed", which in theory could have an impact on the way the teams' tactics are designed.

Most of the other changes only affect the Arms Deal, but it is also worth noting that when a player commits suicide, he now gets no cash for that round.

Below you can find the patch notes for this update:

[BRAVO]

Added Competitive Scorecard to the Official Competitive match end scoreboard if the user owns an Operation Bravo Coin. (Previously only visible in the Operation Bravo Coin tooltip).

[GAMEPLAY]

Suiciding now results in 0 cash awarded for the round.

Player acceleration is now determined by the player's active weapon max speed.

[MAPS]

Fixed bugs in Gwalior, Cache, Ali, Seaside and Agency.

[MISC]

Fixed stock items not displaying possessive information in the freeze panel.

Fixed some water material fallbacks to not reflect the 2d skybox which caused bad reflections with low shader settings.

Fixed squished weapon kill icons on Mac.

Fixed the highest quality items in a Collection failing to be filtered out of the Trade Up Contract interface.

Fixed a memory leak in client code that also caused performance drops during long gameplay sessions.

New decorated weapon added to the Assault Collection.

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2013-09-27 18:22

What does mean "player acceleration no longer follows a pre-established value, but is instead determined by the player's "active weapon max speed", which in theory could have an impact on the way the teams' tactics are designed." ?

2013-09-27 18:22

13 replies

I stand corrected.

2013-09-27 18:25

3 replies

nope. That's always been the case. The ACCELERATION is now affected by that value, instead of having the same value for every weapon.

2013-09-27 18:24

ur name rhymse with dumpster

2013-09-27 19:39

1 reply

ur name rhymes itself;)

2013-09-28 00:08

Basically it added more weight to the player depending of the weapon.

2013-09-27 18:28

8 replies

so if you have negev you will move slower?

2013-09-27 18:54

7 replies

so no ADADADAD with every weapon. the heavier the weapon the less accelerates. the movement speed is the same

2013-09-27 18:56

simple, the bigger the weapon the slower u move...

2013-09-27 18:57

3 replies

No, the bigger the weapon the longer it takes to reach maximum velocity. Weapon speeds are the same as before.

2013-09-27 19:28

2 replies

yea i just realized now, i tought they made movement speed like in 1.6

2013-09-27 19:56

1 reply

well it has always been like u said on #48.. the bigger the gun the slower u move but now they just added that accel thing.

2013-09-28 15:16

you will move the same but you accelerate slower

2013-09-27 20:03

you accelerate slower... does no one in the cs community understand the fucking definition of "acceleration" ? jesus fucking christ

2013-09-28 12:55

There is only 10% linear difference between knife and M4 speed, so is the change so crucial?

2013-09-27 18:24

9 replies

it has quite some effect on ADADADAD spamming i guess...

2013-09-27 18:26

its not about the speed but about ACCELERATION with weapons .... cause til now it was the same for every weapon

2013-09-27 18:26

6 replies

So do these 10% make huge difference? If it is used in linear formula of course.

2013-09-27 18:29

5 replies

It's actually a little above 11% for the M4 :P Anyway it would be like taking the current sv_accelerate value of 5.6 and making it 5.0 whilst playing with the M4. If you ask me it's a small but definitely noticeable difference. With the AK the difference is larger and snipers even greater. I like the tactical options this movement change gives and also the counter-strafe stopping speeds for all weapons are now consistent. Whether it's enough to satisfy remains to be seen, I proposed changes to sv_accelerate and sv_friction but we'll see how things go from here.

2013-09-27 18:38

3 replies

maybe if they now use the original 4/5 values would be even better

2013-09-27 19:01

1 reply

Of course yes

2013-09-28 00:08

Well, first of all, thanks for staying on the matter instead of dismissing it as some people said you did. You are right, it remains to be seen if this small change will be enough in terms of making movement more punishable. This largely depends on the interaction of the new acceleration and tagging imo - where are the tagging mechanics defined? As for this making movement more precise, how exactly does the new acceleration method influence counter-strafing - I mean, why would it be more consistent now than it was before? And a single strafe still feels somewhat slide-y, so I hope you will keep an eye on playing with the movement commands (what values do you currently have in mind btw.? sv_accelerate 5, sv_friction 5, sv_airaccelerate 20, sv_staminalandcost 0.05 is what I enjoy).

2013-09-27 19:10

I don't think the acceleration has anything to do with the linear portion of the movement. The acceleration is the speed at which you reach the linear state. It should make stopping and starting feel a lot different I'd assume, and will hopefully make angle strafing much more viable, which if so, top 1 NEO here we go ;)

2013-09-27 18:38

it hurts T side more than CT side. AK and galil are way slower than the m4's.

2013-09-28 00:41

Nais

2013-09-27 18:26

"Player acceleration is now determined by the player's active weapon max speed." what was is it determined on before? I'm assuming this really isn't an important movement update. I bet you still can't do anything but jump up and down on the spot and everybody still has the acceleration of a super car. movement still broken, AWP still broken, autosniper still broken, glock still broken.

2013-09-27 18:27

23 replies

If you switch broken for different. I agree.

2013-09-27 18:31

11 replies

if your standard for cs gameplay and cs esport is this youtube.com/watch?v=PzVAzSSdBSg then you aren't wanted. awp is broken doesnt register shots consistently. glock rushes are almost unstoppable. hitlers views on humanity we're pretty digusting. don't you think so? or are they just different too? fuck it maybe we should introduce a pistol which is as powerful as the awp with 50bullet clips. not broken just different I guess.

2013-09-27 18:41

9 replies

LOL that vid. +1 and -1 to people that cover up shit with the word different. Economy seats on a plane are different to first class seats, it doesn't mean anyone wants to sit in economy.

2013-09-27 18:41

> if your standard for cs gameplay and cs esport is this > youtube.com/watch?v=PzVAzSSdBSg How is that any different than having an AWP ?

2013-09-27 18:47

1 reply

waaay different, you could spam m1 the whole day and get 5 kills ;)

2013-09-27 19:23

oh shit jailbait serious up in this bitxh

2013-09-27 19:42

Face it, GO is a different game. It's not that hard to comprehend.

2013-09-27 23:04

3 replies

If you switch different for broken. I agree.

2013-09-30 02:28

2 replies

Lol... Typical online gamer

2013-09-30 10:50

1 reply

wouldn't a typical gamer enjoy a game for the sake of playing a game, whereas for me, I enjoy a game based on its quality. No explanation needed.

2013-10-01 02:55

you could do that shit with an autosniper in 1.6 as well lol

2013-09-29 12:40

If you switch different for sucks. I agree.

2013-09-27 18:39

The day you post a positive comment, I'll probably be Beyonce..

2013-09-27 18:36

6 replies

the day this game is fixed.. hm wait

2013-09-27 18:46

2 replies

Because a game is always gonna be perfect right away.. hm wait

2013-09-27 18:52

1 reply

After almost 3 years of development CSGO still misses basic aspects that make a good CS-game. 10 years of CS e-sports history and valve still doesn't know what these aspects are and what the community wants. After such a long time you NEED to be able to get everything done straight away. The development of this game has been a joke... for 3 years. Stop hiding behind these excuses and and use your brain.

2013-09-27 21:05

post edits are so uncool

2013-09-27 19:05

2 replies

Just correcting my grammar, whats so uncool about that?

2013-09-27 19:29

1 reply

we don't know what you corrected....you might have typed something bad and then realized that it was a slip of the tongue :)....your comment was nice but the post edit made it somewhat uncool :)....in a site like gosugamers.net you will never know that you edited something :)....God it is not easy to convey one's message in chat without using emoticons :)

2013-09-28 09:00

autosniper is quite nice :), I buy it very often - very effective weapon :D

2013-09-27 19:05

Why don't people ever realize that the Autosniper is expensive and therefor it is allowed to be a great weapon. It's not as if you see everyone buying an autosniper every round, because it's so accessible and easy to use. The guns in Go are pretty balanced. As for the glock, now the USP has been introduced, the glock has been less powerful (in comparison) and you see a lot more CT pistol round wins.

2013-09-27 19:31

you are literally the most annoying person on this website

2013-09-28 01:19

glock? go aim with usp and glock is shit :D

2013-09-28 12:04

2 LATE MATE

2013-09-27 18:29

not enough change in the movement.. too fast picking corners even with awp

2013-09-27 18:31

what about disconnects in mm? useless update again.

2013-09-27 18:32

1 reply

No pleasing everyone. What a thankless job a game developer is...

2013-09-27 18:47

finally a memory leak fix :)

2013-09-27 18:35

When was this, just now or yesterday or smth? I didn't seem to notice anything different just now when I played 10 mins ago.

2013-09-27 18:39

can someone exlpain to me what changed movement wise? dont rly get it

2013-09-27 18:44

1 reply

do you know the meaning of acceleration?

2013-09-28 01:59

i told you this game will never be fixed..

2013-09-27 18:46

Does this make it come to a stop quicker when you use the AWP?

2013-09-27 18:46

movement 69

2013-09-27 18:49

Comment #39 describes it really well: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=450716#r452..

2013-09-27 18:50

nerf russians with their p90s

2013-09-27 18:51

3 replies

yes JESUS IT IS annoying as fuck

2013-09-27 19:02

yeah its like kids runnin and shootin hs.. fuck this shit

2013-09-27 19:07

this update will make P90 even stronger..

2013-09-27 20:08

n11111111111

2013-09-27 18:52

Bye aggressive awpers. Better buy a tent

2013-09-27 18:55

WHY SO LATE HLTV!? LOL!

2013-09-27 18:57

Basically this makes AWPing even more impossible as I understand?

2013-09-27 19:04

6 replies

it goes both ways, if u peak with an awp, itll be harder and in case you're the one waiting for the other awp peaker (awp battle on dust2 lets say) thatll be way easier, just as it should be

2013-09-27 19:25

5 replies

but the point is CSGO awp is so stupid that u need to stand still for like 0.5 sec to be 100% accurate...

2013-09-27 19:27

4 replies

there is a technique called "stutter step" which is so much more useful in GO then other version, where you basically hit A or D (depending on which side you are moving)to immediately stop strafing and get 100% accuracy in a shorter time.

2013-09-27 19:35

3 replies

and how u do that?

2013-09-27 19:35

2 replies

you peek, as soon as you start pressing the opposite direction you shoot instead of stopping.

2013-09-27 19:41

if you just press d to go sideways, when you stop, you will slide.. to stop this motion tap a to counter the movement and you'll come to a stand still.

2013-09-27 20:13

chickens should accelerate faster !

2013-09-27 19:09

1 reply

:DD

2013-09-27 19:15

so running with light weapons is more beneficial now

2013-09-27 19:24

2 replies

changing direction with heavier weapons is less beneficial now

2013-09-27 19:35

1 reply

but its basically the same with pistols and smgs so this update really did nothing good at all or did i miss something ??

2013-09-27 20:10

Finally!

2013-09-27 19:25

i dislike the movement update. makes it even harder to pick an T awper from ct spawn.

2013-09-27 19:33

awesome update! now please fix the buggy ladder in lobby on nuke

2013-09-27 19:34

2 replies

how is it buggy?

2013-09-27 19:35

1 reply

it doesn't always let you crouch or walk onto it. today in a pug i tried climbing down it to hut without making noise and it bounced me off of it like a trampoline

2013-09-27 19:36

n1,but fix dat P90 and autosniper!

2013-09-27 19:37

2 replies

autosniper i agree 100% needs a nerf. i may be in the minority, but i don't mind how good the p90 is at close range. for me, the problem is that the shottys and smgs (particularly UMP and P90) are more accurate at long range then i think they should be

2013-09-27 19:40

1 reply

2013-09-27 20:38

Very nice update. I hope the next one will include performance improvements.

2013-09-27 19:39

no more adadadadad noobs <3

2013-09-27 19:44

Fucking update has fucked FPS again!!!!!

2013-09-27 20:02

10 replies

no, you're lying

2013-09-27 20:10

5 replies

i dont give a shit about ur opinion ..help or get out...ty :)

2013-09-27 20:20

4 replies

it's not my opinion, it's just i don't have any lags or fps drops anymore you feel me?

2013-09-27 20:34

1 reply

yes but you're treating me like a liar .. that's why i was answered u badly =) played 2 matches now, and my fps is like -20 than usual

2013-09-27 20:41

Take it easy. Thank you.

2013-09-28 02:47

1 reply

^^ i was nervous sorry

2013-09-28 21:49

This update has doubled my fps.

2013-09-27 20:39

3 replies

lucky u ... how :/... just updated the game, played 2 bad matches,verified the cache .. and now its telling me that the servers are too busy something like this :/ "The Steam Servers are too busy to handle your request ..."

2013-09-27 20:48

2 replies

he steal ur fps muahaha :|

2013-09-28 01:37

1 reply

:D haha

2013-09-28 21:49

remove p90, noobs from match making running with this and think that they are pro.

2013-09-27 20:11

2 replies

haha, spray the stomach, headshot every damn time

2013-09-27 20:23

didn't had the problem today :D this noobs just got oneshotted :D oh i love dat update :D

2013-09-28 00:46

n1?

2013-09-27 20:18

this update finally is "ok" but the movement speed is still to high i think and the ADAD noobs a bit fixed ye

2013-09-27 20:24

some impressions: - deagle has really a different feeling now, did they drop an undocumented change? Or just a collateral effect due the new acceleration? - M4 > AK : M4 is now way faster than AK during moving shots, maybe AK needs a little boost in acceleration compared to M4 (just some decimals), it feels a tiny bit too slow. - performances: no more stuttering after 30min of gameplay on old machines/laptops (checked it with my 6 y/o laptop). Not really a fps boost, but for sure they solved a really annoying issue. About acceleration: people keep confusing it with max speed, which was already calculated by using the weapons weight, so i want to clarify that acceleration is the rate needed for reaching the max speed, so if maxspeed=100 the acceleration is the rate at which the velocity of the model changes in the 0-100 time interval. So basically before, with some heavy weapons we had a "peak" in acceleration because the same rate was shared between everything, now instead of that we have a linear curve. Long story short: reaction times+aim > ADADADAD

2013-09-27 20:27

this update is great but i would like to see valve removing p90 or removing russians both is okay i guess.

2013-09-27 20:33

2 replies

lmao

2013-09-27 20:47

ahahahaha

2013-09-27 21:34

update is great but we need deagle buff !!

2013-09-27 21:16

If some people can take down multiple enemys with the deagle, and some can't, its not that it needs to be buffed. People just need to learn how to master that gun.

2013-09-27 21:38

3 replies

2013-09-27 22:35

excuse me?skytten aced n! i think in that position once and then i watched him fail like 10x with dgl not hitting a single shot,l2p issue?lol

2013-09-28 00:30

1 reply

+1 people take down multiple enemies once in a blue moon, but 90% of the time they fail hard

2013-09-28 01:48

when valve remove p90 or make it like in real gun with plastic ammo

2013-09-27 21:51

1 reply

2013-09-27 22:34

shoot with awp, run with the knife, awp, knife, awp, knife, like always.

2013-09-27 22:15

1 reply

have fun peeking with your knife, if you wanted the previous acceleration

2013-09-28 03:52

Nerf p90 pls !!!!

2013-09-27 22:33

thx Valve for this update. the game is more random now

2013-09-27 23:06

2 replies

+1 noticed same problem

2013-09-27 23:28

-1

2013-09-28 01:58

I LIKEEEE

2013-09-27 23:42

People bitch too much update is a step in the right direction for movement

2013-09-28 00:20

I don't feel any difference in movement after update, really. These 1-2 or even less milliseconds doesn't improve anything in gameplay. Valve could just wrote down in change log that "movement is fixed now" and community will go ape sh*t - "n1" "at last it's playable" "no peaking woohoo, no adadad" I was 1.6 player myself, i don't want them to make 1.6 with better graphics, but movement in GO is so broken. It still feels like rollerskating + peaking advantage. Just recently played some cs:s, man that game does feel like counter strike, i hated a lot of things there (like any other 1.6 player) but it felt more skill based than go (like more AIM based) yeah and hit registration was better. CS:GO feels like Quake with lags, i still like many things valve have implemented in it (matchmaking, smokes, less wallbang, some map improvements (like nuke) ...) I still think that GO is enjoying to watch, but playing isn't as fun.

2013-09-28 00:43

5 replies

i think it does make a noticeable difference, but is very subtle yes. Improves the game and is a great update in my eyes. I really like that the time to 'change direction' completely is uniform for all weapons now.

2013-09-28 03:51

4 replies

Of course it's a great update but really not a game changer. Still i don't get that 64tick thing, cause in really bad, laggy 1.6 and cs:s servers hit registration is a lot better than in official valve servers with 15-20ms. My to do list for valve would be: Hit registration P90 nerf (make it less accurate in distance) Make GO more colorful Remove post processing & fog completely (give us option to choose)* Movement (make weapons less accurate while running & a bit slower movement itself) More old maps for competitive (de_tuscan, de_forge, maybe a cool remake of de_prodigy for competitive gaming.. dunno) Make it free to play & improve VAC * there are commands but they're sv_cheat 1 protected, but you can try in botgame for yourselves sv_cheat 0 mat_postprocess_enable 0 (gives also fps boost) fog _ override 1 fog_enable 0

2013-09-28 11:22

3 replies

For the color, I recommend you to do what I do nowadays. When I am about to play, I increase saturation to 75 or 100(normally 75 because 100 it's very agressive xD) and then when I quit gaming I go back not to 0, but to 25 and I leave it there, because if you go to 0 it will look very crappy because you were seeing at 75 or 100. It isn't something new, but it's worth the shot. Do this only for csgo, as other games won't need it. For nvidia it's called digital vibrance, but I play on laptop so, even if I use nvidia, that option won't show. So if you have intel graphics too (nvidia+intel), go for graphic options on desktop. You should find it somewhere on color improvements. If you play on desktop, you shouldn't have a problem to find it on ATI (saturation) or NVIDIA (digital vibrance).

2013-09-28 17:55

2 replies

Yeah i have laptop with optimus (Intel + geforce) and thats shame that they didn't include digital vibrance :( Can you tell me pls where and what sliders u put on some specific numbers? Much appreciated

2013-09-29 01:44

1 reply

Go for the intel graphics control panel (the blue one on the desktop) and choose monitor, then the third label, something to do with color. Then, luminosity 0 (laptop luminosity max), contrast 50, gamma 1,0; hue (or something like that) 0, and saturation 75-100 on gaming, and 25 when back to normal. The saturation value for gaming you just have to adapt to your preference, I played 100 but I noticed that the red color becomes very distracting, especially on nuke. So 75 seems like a good choice.

2013-09-29 02:31