SteelSeries announce Rival mouse

23-10-2013 19:57

SteelSeries have announced their new optical gaming mouse called Rival, which features 1ms response rate, adjustable CPI between 50-6500 and much more.

SteelSeries Rival closely resembles the wildly popular Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, which was used by a wide array of top players but was discontinued a few years ago by the software giant.

SteelSeries have now developed an optical gaming mouse with 1ms response rate, 1000Hz polling rate, adjustable CPI at 50-6500 and a sensor that can handle 50Gs or 200 inches per second.

SteelSeries Rival. Deadly precision.

The mouse comes with six programmable buttons and two zones that can be illuminated with SteelSeries Engine and portray 16.8 million different colors. SteelSeries Rival also features rubber side grips.

SteelSeries Rival weighs 128 grams, is 40mm tall, 70mm wide and 145mm long. It comes with a 2 meters long soft rubber cable, and can be pre-ordered here. More information is on SteelSeries' product page.

cool

2013-10-23 19:58

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Razer style?

2013-10-23 20:22

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It's just the META.

2013-10-23 22:17

ime 3.0 style

2013-10-25 12:33

nice one

2013-10-23 19:58

maaah, still using my ms 1.1!

2013-10-23 19:59

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Who isn't. My 5l is almost 10 years old.

2013-10-23 20:12

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hahaa same :D

2013-10-23 20:57

+1 1.1a :D

2013-10-23 20:18

2013-10-23 21:19

best mouse ever

2013-10-25 00:19

+1.1 :)

2013-12-05 09:50

so so

2013-10-23 19:59

seems great, gonna try

2013-10-23 19:59

IE 3.0 from steelseries? looks damn good :)

2013-10-23 20:00

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IE 3.0 has nothing to do with this, plus, ss has already done a IE 3.0 version

2013-10-23 20:09

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actually it's a new version of the IE 3.0

2013-10-25 12:34

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What do you mean ?

2013-10-25 12:43

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it's verry similar to a 3.0 with a modern design:)

2013-10-25 14:49

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It would be if it was heavy, this mouse is way too light imo. Also the surface seems a bit weird

2013-10-25 15:12

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i played with 3.0 for 7years , and if I'm not wrong the 3.0 had 93 grams so this should be more heavy !

2013-10-25 16:13

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I doubt that you played for it for 7 years, or maybe it's been a while you didn't play with it, but the weight is about 150g

2013-10-25 16:51

Looks tasty. If I got any spare money, I would definitely consider it :)

2013-10-23 20:00

145 mm lol, the longest mouse :|

2013-10-23 20:02

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almost like Ikari(130mm)

2013-10-23 21:31

Lets see if it has any built in prediction or positive/negative hardware acceleration, we might see the first Steelseries mouse that makes it onto the list of Mice with flawless sensors: esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=202466..

2013-10-23 20:03

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it says zero acceleration and 1by1 tracking perfomance from avago optical sensor 3310 i doubt it but lets see

2013-10-23 23:09

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Indeed, it'd be nice if it turned out alright but we'll just have to see I guess.

2013-10-23 23:18

It looks so high.

2013-10-23 20:03

looks fine

2013-10-23 20:04

another clone

2013-10-23 20:05

looks good. i wonder if i should replace my ec1 evo :P

2013-10-23 20:04

looks good but would never buy it, ergonomic mic don't suit me well.

2013-10-23 20:05

n11111111111

2013-10-23 20:05

RAZER ?? where's the steelseries design that it used to be

2013-10-23 20:06

Seriously do we need SteelSeries marketing out there, for what reason this deserve a thread, SS paid hltv or what ? It's probably gonna be a mouse with a lot of default like 90% of SS mice, the lenght already seems really restrective, the weight is pretty ridiculous, the sensor idk, i wait for some review. If you guys want a REAL mouse, look forward for the Ninox aurora in 1 or 2 months, this mouth is totally flawless, the perfection for small/medium hands people.

2013-10-23 20:07

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yes and yes About Ninox aurora Is that the guy from ESreality who talks about that mouse for years now? Will this product ever be released in EU?

2013-10-23 20:13

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esreality.com/post/2487925/new-gaming-mo.. The product is pretty much finish, this should be out for december, of course for eu, read it, there is even a bundle with a special mouse pad and it's so cheap for this super quality.

2013-10-23 20:18

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dude i heard that 1 year ago :D I hope hes serious this time

2013-10-23 20:23

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lol it's a new thread, everything is tested, he even put a mousepad for bundle, everything seems fine, it's just a matter of manufactoring now, if nothing is still out in some months, this guy is the biggest troll ever but this won't happen :3

2013-10-23 20:29

That's exactly my thoughts.

2013-10-23 20:31

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well he linked the speccs and the sensor is the mostly commonly used a3090 which most of the mice these day used I am not sure why i should buy it then. The shape looks a little bit like the old logitch g1 or the razer krait/copperhead which had a awful shape for me The first prototypes he had looked like the the intelli explorer mice esreality.com/files/placeimages/2011/846.. I am confused how the final one will look like. If thats the final version hmmm not sure if my hand would like it esreality.com/files/placeimages/2013/951..

2013-10-23 20:42

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The 3090 overused really ? not at all actually, it's the best sensor actually i think, and you usually find a mouse with it for 50/60 box or more and of course there is other flaw like prediction, accel, lod etc, here this is flawless in every way, it's basically a WMO but with a super high malfunction speed 4.9/ms something. The shape is close to the WMO actually, the back is different that is all, again it's a mouse for small and medium hand user.

2013-10-23 20:54

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are you a beta tester of the mouse or why are you so positive about it? And for me it looks obviously more like a logitech g1 or a mx300 I mean look at the first screenshot i linked. That is a proper copy of the imo

2013-10-23 21:05

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No lol, i just know a bit about mouse and on the paper (specs) everything looks perfect, it has been tested a lot by bst for checking prediction, lod etc

2013-10-23 21:12

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any updates on the release date?

2013-12-05 03:20

The shape is slighly bigger mx300/g1.

2013-10-23 21:06

Actually Aurora has slightly bigger mx300/G1 shape which is the best mouse shape ever imo. And btw you can use Aurora's internals into WMO 1.1 which has awesome shape too. i.imgur.com/4MWgCyG.jpg i.imgur.com/WUFCZYh.jpg The gallery: erasem.com/gallery/ (Please note these are outdated photos, but the shape remains the same. The main difference is that on the final version, the logo glows, and the sides are no longer transparent).

2013-10-23 21:04

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any updates on the release date?

2013-12-05 03:20

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"ETA: December 2013 - Janurary 2014 (more accurate ETA will be given the closer to the release date things get). Also, when I say ETA, I mean delivered to your door." © bst You can follow the process here: esreality.com/post/2487925/new-gaming-mo.. and here: www.overclock.net/t/1240739/bsts-gaming-mouse

2013-12-05 07:24

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i already looked through the esr thread. Bst doesnt seem to respond anymore lol

2013-12-05 11:47

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Yeah. bst's last login @ esreality was on 1 Dec 2013. Though his last login @ OCN was 1 day ago. Hope he'll back soon with good news :D

2013-12-05 17:25

They are shipping from the 8th November

2013-11-07 13:12

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you say shipping. Can you already order them? If yes where?

2013-11-08 00:14

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my bad mate... i skimmed through the replies and saw yours, I didn't realise you were asking about the Ninox. The Rival ships on the 8th November.

2013-11-08 11:26

I'm waiting for Aurora for more than a year. Actually I'm tired of waiting and this SS mouse looks promising.

2013-10-23 20:21

I've now been on both sides of the table. I've been thankful for the time SteelSeries made things possible for us, when I worked at HLTV.org and I'm happy we can still make this possible. Revenue for salaries, travel, and hotel when covering events. It all comes from the sponsors of this website. Does that give these companies a chance to advertise? Sure. Is that so odd? No.

2013-10-24 23:34

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+1 But I can understand his criticism towards the SteelSeries mice. Advertising seems more important for SS than actually making quality mice.

2013-12-05 03:25

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I can only speak for this particular product, haven't been apart of any previous ones.

2013-12-05 09:29

Don't you think SS is quality? I have my SS Siberia Frost blue which I still can't put a finger on, it's just perfect. I have my SS Kana which have had no bugs, haven't broken or anything.. It's a bit "used" now, but that took 2 years.

2013-12-05 09:41

playesr

2013-10-23 20:09

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SteelSeries Engin

2013-10-23 20:12

not sure if Btw i want my kana v2

2013-10-23 20:12

rip wallet

2013-10-23 20:14

128g , it's already gg. IE3.0 is 108g and it's still to heavy. ZOWIE ec1 evo > Rival.

2013-10-23 20:16

Looks like x7 LOL

2013-10-23 20:20

fail like sensei

2013-10-23 20:23

not even close to IE 1.1 or 3.0

2013-10-23 20:25

nice :)

2013-10-23 20:40

And probably still uses the shitty sensors with inbuilt prediction.

2013-10-23 20:42

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you didnt even bothered to read the specs huh?

2013-10-23 23:16

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Ofc not. But will probably look it up once people review it and open it up.

2013-10-24 00:46

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then do it cause it seems you are completely wrong . we will see

2013-10-24 10:14

We've had this in testing phase from the first working samples to the final product, with many of the professional players we sponsor, in particular the FPS players. There hasn't been a case where any of them reported this.

2013-10-24 23:28

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Nice. Well the previous SS mice for a fact have this problem. I used to own 2 Xais and they both had it. And in every technical review I've seen (not some gamer saying it feels good and I shoot headshot now) they have confirmed it's due to the sensor. But this mouse has a different sensor, so it might actually be good :)

2013-10-24 23:51

Looks like x7

2013-10-23 20:43

looks nice! :)

2013-10-23 20:46

this one caught my attention. looking forward to find out what sensor it will use

2013-10-23 20:49

looks like a deathadder

2013-10-23 20:56

Avago ADNS 3310 optical sensor

2013-10-23 20:57

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new one?

2013-10-23 21:05

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idk, ss website ADVANCED OPTICAL SENSOR At the heart of Rival is the Avago ADNS 3310 optical sensor. The 3310 promises zero hardware acceleration, offering true 1:1 tracking and precise movements no matter how fast things get during the heat of battle. The CPI is best-in-class with adjustments from 50 to 6500.

2013-10-23 21:20

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lol ignore the number. we all care about acceleration and prediction :D

2013-10-24 01:43

Kana for life!

2013-10-23 21:09

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2013-10-23 21:55

KANA>RIVAL

2013-11-18 15:38

Ikari back! :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2013-10-23 21:29

another shitty mouse...

2013-10-23 21:46

Cmon, it looks like A4tech X7

2013-10-23 22:11

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rofl it does too

2013-10-23 22:36

Every product of Steelseries is best best best

2013-10-23 22:27

Seems to be perfect in shape, since I think my Sensei Raw is 10-15mm too short. But it's at least 30g too heavy!

2013-10-23 22:28

imo looks shitty

2013-10-23 22:32

Instantbuy incoming. a mouse for men, 145 mm long and a damn ass great shape and a motherfucking, hellfucking, helldominating, devilfucking optical at its best with highest grade omron switches. it's a must if you have big hands guys and for sure the best ss mouse ever made for people with the right sizedimensions. you would be insane to not buy it as a big handed big guy and fps player. those are mice I will see, got my go for it.

2013-10-23 22:54

kana best. 72 g weight:)

2013-10-23 22:53

and remember kids, the more CPI it has, the better the mouse is!

2013-10-23 22:53

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if it's a strong sensor, performing well in its dpi range, it only matters the technology. and this optical they use will be clean and easy. it lookS and reads superb if you ask me personal and i am a micemaniac. XD

2013-10-23 22:57

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have you tested it? :D

2013-10-24 10:15

What does it matter to HLTV users? They will still use 400 CPI/DPI on their mice anyway...

2013-10-23 23:01

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that's true, but some also use 800 or 1600 and ingamesense 1 or 2. with this high dpi range you could just set your ingamesense on 1 and do everything else with the dpi range.

2013-10-23 23:03

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I use 1800 DPI and balance it with 0.30 sens in-game (Source engine of course).

2013-10-23 23:05

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yep see :)

2013-10-23 23:06

if they would bring this mouse also as a left handed version i would by 5 to 10 pieces of this mouse instantly and play my whole life with it but so i gotta play this mouse with my weaker side, but its ok. this and no other will be my next one. i am not rich homy, but this has to be.

2013-10-23 23:01

I would like to see a comparision between DeathAdder 2013 and Rival. Maybe it's going to Rival DeathAdder for the spot of the No. 1 mouse :)

2013-10-23 23:08

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DA n1? have you ever tested zowie?

2013-10-23 23:17

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No I didn't, maybe it is because for the same money I can get more from a DA, than any Zowie mice... Also - kotaku.com/moneysaver-one-shot-kotakus-p..

2013-10-23 23:41

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You do realise that the results are based on a poll ? Razer's facebook and twitter page linked to the otaku article .Razer Deathadder is a good mouse , but because zowie or any other mouse did not win the poll doesn't make their mice bad .

2013-10-24 07:59

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I never said it does make them bad, of course it is going to win Razer, since they're that big. I just said Zowie doesn't offer anything special...

2013-10-24 23:40

somehow that end of the mouse looks fucking godlike :D

2013-10-23 23:45

Eh, I will never buy a mouse for more than $30 the one I'm using is currently $8. bought it for $12 screw overpriced gaming products

2013-10-24 01:20

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-1

2013-10-24 11:44

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+1, because gaming is about skill, not the products used. As long as the computer can handle it and the sensitivity is comfortable and at least 400 DPI, anyone can play good CS.

2013-10-24 11:46

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go tell to all the good players (not just progamers, but good players overall) nobody playing with shitty 8$ mouse but you. go figure ...

2013-10-24 23:46

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So just because other people are means you have to? All you're proving is that you can't play for shit without an overpriced mouse. You suck at CS without an expensive mouse. That's what you're saying.

2013-10-25 00:05

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I played CS 1.0 with Genius ball mouse and in Quake 3 I was 3rd in WCG 2003 in my country with it. tell me more how I can`t play with bad mouse on the event I found out how great IE 3.0 is and sticked with it for many years but please, don`t cry when you die all the time in CS, because your enemy is using zowie/logitech/steel series mouse

2013-10-25 10:26

Don't worry, you'll eventually find out how crap your current mouse is, once you have tasted quality, regardless of their price. If you're that guy that only plays gungame and other shit, then yeah I can understand your point, otherwise it doesn't make sense.

2013-12-05 09:40

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Then do go ahead and send me one. I wouldn't mind buying one if I don't have to pay 3-4 times its actual worth. It takes practise to put move your cursor to the right place at the right time, not an expensive mouse. Mine has at least 400 DPI, glides smoothly, and clicks well. And that's all I'll ever need.

2013-12-05 09:48

and about the price ?

2013-10-24 02:22

price in studio plz ?

2013-10-24 06:34

Prices from the more expensive istores in swe atm gives a price around + 50 €, probably recomended price from ss. the usually cheaper store's haven't released prices yet

2013-10-24 08:25

Rival is #1 mouse.

2013-10-24 09:12

128g, too heavy.

2013-10-24 10:21

#101 what do you expect? It's the longest mouse.

2013-10-24 10:23

And for everyone preaching Zowie, Zowie is rubbish. Until they introduce realistic dpi steps that gamers want, I will never buy any of their products. For instance the Zowie FK has high input lag on 450 dpi, the dpi is also different from FK to FK because of the way they made the lens (it's more between 500-550 dpi), 1150 and 2300 are not dpi steps I would ever want to use and I'm sure there's alot of others that agree with that. Also I should mention that all of their new products that actually have good specs are made for either serious claw grippers or tiny asian girls with small palm grips.

2013-10-24 10:33

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Bought Zowie AM. Sensor broke in 3 weeks xD

2013-10-25 12:48

they made the DPI step that way to get the lowest lift of distance possible.. Although I personally use zowie mouse I find the super low LOD thinggy is stupid TBH

2013-10-25 16:20

2013-11-07 15:24

Using my AM ~2 years(bought it 02.12) and only thing happened - glides were erased to shit. And I have 20cm hand and have no problem by using it and don't give a shit about DPI or other stuff. PS: can't find in-game sensitivity with new DPI? Here you go: "old sens" / "new DPI" * "old DPI" = "new sens".

2013-12-05 10:17

steelseries Kinzu V2 pro <3

2013-10-24 12:16

No release date for this?

2013-10-24 18:23

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Ships around November 8.

2013-10-24 23:23

8 November I believe. this mouse will be a master piece for big handers. better than everything they made before but you need the right handdimensions.

2013-10-24 19:44

Oh so pretty - twitter.com/nix0nss/status/3933223086955..

2013-10-24 23:19

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not sure if showing off or trying to get more followers

2013-10-25 16:19

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gtfo

2013-10-25 18:32

Showing off, the product.

2013-10-26 00:56

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Can you make a comparison of Rival mouse against MX518? Size-wise, height-wise etc.

2013-10-30 16:59

so damn ugly, they should keep it simple

2013-10-25 18:22

Ec2 or this? OMG so hard decision xD. Lets wait for reviews

2013-11-07 13:35

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Ec2 has nothing on this mouse spec wise, I've pre-ordered the rival, it should be shipped tomorrow.

2013-11-07 13:51

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HF with Rival and pls write how mouse is working when you will get yours one.

2013-11-07 14:15

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Will do ;)

2013-11-08 02:20

in video with a 3d view it looks a bit different than in the photos youtube.com/watch?v=nhGekr7H8JU

2013-11-07 14:22

I got it today , and its feels nice and all BUT! when u press both M1 and M2 it stickstogheter in the front of the M1/M2 buttons, and gets somewhat stuck and makes a horrible sound, easy fic just grind em down, and one tapping feel 2 hard also. Might be the crappy switches or the shell itself, im sure they are gonna remake the shell somewhat because of this, dont buy it yet until the clicking issue is done with

2013-11-18 15:29

same shit like DA, zowie EC, sharkoon fireglider ect i think oO

2013-11-18 15:40

The EC1 eVo doesnt get stuck at the front when u tryin 2 quickscope, i have 2 of those, im not gonna return this mouse i like it after all but im gonna sand the mousebuttons so they dont get stuck. its a bit high LOD 2 but not that its bothering like the logi MX or DA 2013

2013-11-18 15:59

too heavy!

2013-11-18 15:59

It is the 1st Pixart implementation of the avago design for future LED optical mice. pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_i.. I am looking forward to see the Mionix(avior 7000) and CM storm implementations as well in my quest for the "~flawless" 800 dpi.

2013-12-05 10:00

mine is perfect, literally perfect

2013-12-05 12:05

looks decent

2013-12-05 15:00

I've bought this monster over a week ago to swap it with SS Sensei MLG edition (Sensei MLG is a great mice, but, unfortunately, has positive hardware acceleration). SS Rival is wonderful. After few days of using this mice, I don't notice any jittering/skipping/snapping effects in pointer motion at all. And as I'm using clothed mousepad (Qck+ Heavy) using optical mice is more preferable I think (laser sensors are more sensitive to dust). Also, it's true that this mice doesn't have hardware acceleration.

2014-01-18 09:01