What did we learn from DreamHack?

With DreamHack Stockholm Invitational in the books, we take a look at what we learned from the first event featuring the world's top three teams in 2014.

It's been quite a while since DreamHack Winter, and neither the champions fnatic nor the runner-ups NiP have since then participated at events featuring other top three teams in the world.

Titan, the former VeryGames squad, took part in ESEA Invite Season 15 global finals in Dallas in mid-January, but were also without proper opposition despite ultimately placing second.

The fourth participant in Stockholm, ex-Copenhagen Wolves who recently joined dignitas, had also not played a single official match with their new roster since adding René "cajunb" Borg.

So what did we learn from six maps of play at the DreamHack TV6 studios in Västberga, Stockholm? Continue reading for five important lessons from a prelude event to EMS One Katowice.


cajunb's dignitas answered no questions

5. DDoSsing is a real problem that must be addressed

It's not like DDoSsing is new as a problem; the issue goes as far back as the Intel Extreme Masters Season IV Global Finals at CeBIT in Hanover, Germany, but this must have been by far the worst the problem has ever been. Top players have grown used to ridiculous DDoS problems and threats online on a daily basis, but has it ever caused as much trouble to a tournament as it did last Friday in Stockholm?

First couple of games went fine as DDoSsing didn't really cause an issue until the lower bracket final between dignitas and NiP. From there on out the problems only grew, to the point where the grand final, a best-of-one, took over two hours to finish due to continuous lagouts. The ending of the grand final of a tournament hosted in a TV studio wasn't even broadcasted live on the internet.

I was told some of the fnatic players have gone as far as to go to the police regarding the issues they face when playing at home, but were told there's little to nothing that can be done by the authorities. According to Löic "RegnaM" Pèron it's not very hard to secure yourself from being DDoSsed, which brings the question; why don't more people do it?

This has to be sorted out, sooner rather than later. No one wants to see EMS One Katowice affected by it, and risk Valve's funding being affected sometime down the road.


The expression often seen during DDoSsing

4. fnatic are very good; just not the best in the world

Duncan "Thorin" Shields already explained every conceivable way to look at fnatic after their triumph in Jönköping on the last day of November. It goes through almost every possible point I would like to make so I suggest you instead read through it if you're interested, and then continue here. The gist of the article is that fnatic are a very good team, but not the world's best, and you could make a case for them not even being the third best in the world.

After a nearly three months long hiatus from competitive play, disregarding one best-of-three online in their own FragOut League and two FACEIT Cups, fnatic have now shown some top caliber play once more on LAN, and once again on their home soil in Sweden. Despite falling short against both Titan and NiP, and with fairly convincing margins at that, they showed some solid play in both games and completely trashed dignitas. The only unfortunate thing is they only played de_dust2.

Although the ultimate test will come in three week's time in Poland, to me fnatic are right now the third best team in the world. They followed up a world championship, the first one of its kind in CS:GO, with a third place finish behind the top two teams Titan and NiP, and didn't look completely outclassed in either match-up. Markus "pronax" Wallsten's leadership looks solid, though some individual mistakes definitely cost them a chance at NiP's head, and it looks like their playing style can keep them contending for titles in the future as well.

Surprisingly enough the team is no longer led by Jesper "jw" Wecksell's at times incredible AWPing, as a new star has emerged as the clear number one player in Patrik "cArn" Sättermon's team. That's a good thing because Wecksell can still be inconsistent at times, and also opens a possibility for big improvement still if Wallsten can figure out how to get more consistent numbers out of Wecksell. For now, fnatic are the number three team in the world, and favorites to finish on the podium in Katowice.


There's plenty of reasons for pronax & co to keep smiling

3. Robin "flusha" Rönnquist is a real star

Robin "flusha" Rönnquist was already one the world's best players in 2013 as proven by his thirteenth placing in the top 20 players of the year rankings, but his trajectory has now definitely increased its slope and it looks to be climbing at a pace faster than any of his teammates'. Before getting our hands on the server logs for fnatic's final match against NiP, Rönnquist is sitting on a ridiculous 1.43 rating and a 0.93 KPR in the first two games, good for second in the tournament, and an impressive 1.62 K/D ratio to go with them.

He played great at DreamHack Winter, had solid performances throughout the year and has arguably been fnatic's biggest star since DreamHack Bucharest. Most importantly, he has been very consistent (3rd most consistent on LAN in 2013); something the other stars in fnatic often lack. He is also a very good clutcher; in fact, he has more clutch round won on average per map than any other player in the world, and that includes whom many consider the clutch king Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund, according to our 2013 statistics.

If I had to buy stock in one player for 2014 it would be Rönnquist, even though I think fnatic as a team can be slightly inconsistent and the fact they have to compete with NiP domestically could eventually cause some issues inside the team, if they fail to top them again. Rönnquist is a very good player, a star now, one of the world's best ten or so players. We already knew he was very good before, but his performances in Stockholm were eye-opening at times. If everyone else on fnatic can become more consistent, Rönnquist will only flourish more and ultimately help fnatic win more titles in 2014, possibly already in Katowice.


flusha, the fastest rising star in CS:GO right now

2. NiP are no longer world's best CS:GO team

For the most dominant team in the history of Counter-Strike as a whole, the time to face the music has come. NiP are no longer the world's best CS:GO team. To be fair VeryGames already knocked the Swedes off their throne with three consecutive best-of-three series LAN wins in the fall, but with DreamHack Winter ending the way it did, it was never truly confirmed how the world rankings would look. Furthermore, Titan's loss at ESEA finals definitely didn't help their case. However, despite the grand final finishing the way it did in two hours of play and after countless problems, it's fair to say Titan have now taken over the top spot.

NiP's struggles aren't news to themselves. After DreamHack Winter, despite the fact Richard "Xizt" Landström's decision to actively prepare for VeryGames specifically by including anti-strats in their repertoire, they decided to have star fragger and the world's best player, according to our top 20 player rankings of 2013, Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund, start leading the team in-game. That only lasted through fragbite Masters finals and Svecup, both of which NiP won after close games versus arguably weaker opposition as they avoided VeryGames and fnatic.

Now the team's initial in-game leader Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson has taken over the reigns of the team and DreamHack Stockholm Invitational was his first test back in charge. NiP did do well, though you could make a solid argument for them mostly doing so thanks to excellent counter-terrorist play, as opposed to stellar terrorist strategy calling. It's worth pointing out though that Johansson did state he felt like their defensive sides improved with him taking over the calling duty, and if that's the case it might have been a good switch as they did well overall.

The first match-up against NiP in the opening round of upper bracket saw the Swedes fall short in a similar fashion to their defeats in late 2013 before the win at DreamHack Winter. They came back despite getting demolished in the first half, but an interesting point to make is that Titan were never really in danger. The only time the French-Belgian team was trailing in the double overtime match was after round one, and they tied the game right after. NiP looked to have been close on paper, but in reality it was Titan's game all along if you paid close enough attention.

Though we are missing the statistics for all but NiP's first two games at DreamHack Stockholm Invitational, I think for now it's safe to assume Landström's level of play won't magically go up two levels as a result of him calling. The way he led NiP relied quite a lot on other players' communications and good teamwork, so it seems like it wouldn't affect him individually as much. If he can go back to the way he played in late 2012 and early 2013 and Johansson's calling can be as good as his, the change is good. Otherwise it won't make much of a difference, and NiP will need something else to get back on top.


friberg's NiP are no longer the best

1. Titan reclaim the throne

Titan are the world's best team. Again. Many doubted them after the DreamHack Winter semi-final loss, and they were further questioned after a surprising defeat at the hands of iBUYPOWER, whom they had easily defeated a day earlier, at the ESEA Invite Season 15 global finals earlier in 2014. However, they elevated their level of play at just the right time for DreamHack Stockholm Invitational, and now are going into EMS One Katowice full of confidence that they can get the best of NiP at the first major event of 2014.

What's also interesting to note is that Titan looked extremely strong and beat NiP twice, though the second win is slightly questionable to be considered at all, despite Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom's individual struggles still continuing. He had a couple of strong halves and a ton of good rounds for Titan, but we still haven't seen him dominate games the way he did in late 2013, which in my opinion is a big part of why they started beating NiP consistently in the first place. Whether or not we will see that player again remains to be seen.

Date Score Match  Map Event
21.2 16-10 France Titan vs. Sweden NiP de_nuke DreamHack Stockholm
  22-19 France Titan vs. Sweden NiP de_nuke DreamHack Stockholm
30.11 5-16 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_nuke DreamHack Winter
  16-6 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_inferno DreamHack Winter
  13-16 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_dust2 DreamHack Winter
2.11 19-16 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_nuke ESWC
  16-13 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_cache ESWC
27.10 16-6 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_inferno EMS One Fall Finals
  16-14 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_cache EMS One Fall Finals
  5-16 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_nuke EMS One Fall Finals
10.10 16-6 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_mirage_ce SLTV StarSeries Finals
  16-14 France VeryGames vs. Sweden NiP de_inferno SLTV StarSeries Finals

Titan have won 5/6 (83%) matches and 9/12 (75%) maps on LAN dating back to October

On the other hand Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux has been impressive with the sniper rifles as of late, Richard "shox" Papillon remains a real threat to Alesund's number one ranking as the world's best player, and Nathan "NBK" Schmitt keeps impressing as a great all-around player who randomly puts up MVP-like performances in big games. The team looks great on paper, and in-game, and now that they live together in a gaming house in preparation to EMS One Katowice it's hard to imagine them not traveling to Poland as favorites.

They aren't attending nearly as many tournaments or participating in online leagues this time to avoid the same mistake they made prior to DreamHack Winter that saw them too busy with tournaments to properly practice, and a win in Katowice would solidify them as the clear number one team in the world, beyond any reasonable doubt. Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans has his team where he wants it to be, and that is at the top of the world rankings. Logic says they should remain there until after Katowice, but it all depends on what happens in the next three weeks.


Led by shox, Titan are the world's best CS:GO team

What do you think were the most important lessons from DreamHack Stockholm Invitational? Would you have altered the order or changed the points? Leave a comment below and let us know!

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France elprofessor
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:04
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#130
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Libya (''___'')
We learned something - we need more ip's for events like this
2014-02-26 21:11
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United Kingdom grund
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:05
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#3
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Poland zackandmiri
lurppis hate nip :-)
2014-02-26 18:05
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
thorin called JW a chipmunk :)
2014-02-26 18:13
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#35
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Other kai33
LOL'ed so hard when i heard him say that.
2014-02-26 18:21
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#148
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Sweden Hampzuka
That was idd pretty funny, but i think he acts like a douche cause he wants respons like this. In my eyes, and ears, its entertaining tough ;)
2014-02-26 22:08
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#57
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Brazil autismo
and fnatic
2014-02-26 18:41
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#102
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Sweden Comparator
it's cuz he's finnish. Finland = younger brother of Sweden. He's mad cuz there are no good finnish teams :>
2014-02-26 20:07
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#110
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World mhk-
Cant you do better than that?
2014-02-26 20:25
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#131
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Finland sMurf4r
good logic but not best (jw best)
2014-02-26 21:12
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#146
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Other Frizaa
so true .. lol no
2014-02-26 21:53
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#198
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World ActionBoy
don't feed the troll
2014-02-28 00:33
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#154
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Denmark Jombodk
You are dumb.
2014-02-26 23:23
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Ev0rything
2014-02-26 18:05
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#5
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United Kingdom wtfchicken
Well done lurrpis!
2014-02-26 18:08
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#6
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World <3 NiP
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:08
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#7
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Poland tfg
2. nip sry lurp u wrong, nip is best since csgo 1st tournament
2014-02-26 18:09
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#19
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
Titan>NiP
2014-02-26 18:14
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Poland tfg
<3 shox kk verygel fanboy
2014-02-26 18:17
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10 replies
#37
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Denmark sebN
Titan>NiP
2014-02-26 18:23
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#40
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Poland tfg
okay!
2014-02-26 18:26
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#49
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Russia M9TCHELL
2014-02-26 18:31
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#67
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Poland FaZz^
Titan>NiP
2014-02-26 18:54
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#44
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Morocco  shawN
u cant buy gel tfg?
2014-02-26 18:28
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#65
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Denmark jac0b^hSk1nG
Titan>NiP
2014-02-26 18:53
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#70
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
lol 3 people said the same thing I said and shoxie is an amazing player.
2014-02-26 18:59
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World niko~
Titan>NiP
2014-02-26 21:34
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#174
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Sweden Cyrovox
Titan>NiP
2014-02-27 02:19
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Finland svengG0D
Titan>NiP
2014-03-06 02:47
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#74
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Hungary Tibbze
*was
2014-02-26 19:04
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#79
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Kosovo er1kz
you need to aggre man TITAN are 1st and NIP 2nd
2014-02-26 19:12
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#190
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Lithuania epzX
Titan > NiP ez pz
2014-02-27 15:17
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Ukraine pzb0b
imo dignitas aren't even top 5
2014-02-26 18:10
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Sweden rubbe
not former ad either
2014-02-26 19:15
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former ad is not even close to top 25
2014-03-04 00:57
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World leehwgoC
They're not even top 15. If we're talking on LAN.
2014-02-26 20:19
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Netherlands fejth
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:10
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Netherlands woOtbot
Also something to consider that like half of the rounds on CT side nuke, Titan didnt buy helmets.
2014-02-26 18:11
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Turkey huth
I thought it was just me who noticed that. Instead of buying kevlar they always bought body armor+def kits. If you have 5 good aimers like Titan you can rely on your aim pretty much I think
2014-02-26 18:28
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Russia M9TCHELL
I've noticed that too. I think they rely on AK = 1 hit anyway, no matter with or without helmet. It makes sense actually.
2014-02-26 18:33
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Albania ROYCE_tb
yeah a lot of team have start to do that , the 1st one i saw was IBP @ESEA.adreN said that there is no need for helmet on ct side cause AK can 1 shoot you so they dont actually buy it everytime.
2014-02-26 18:53
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World bort321
It's actually been common practice for a long time, even before CS:GO.
2014-02-26 19:54
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Albania ROYCE_tb
never saw that in 1.6 , cant tell about source tho.
2014-02-26 19:58
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Finland suNny4w
zneel :>
2014-03-03 08:36
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ive heard not having a helmet increases nade damage, yet to test it myself
2014-02-26 20:39
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Russia M9TCHELL
Never heard anything about but it should be tested definitely.
2014-02-26 20:45
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AK 1 shot HS so it doesnt matter to much
2014-02-26 18:36
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Netherlands woOtbot
sure it doesnt matter on ak, but grenades and pistols still important.
2014-02-26 19:04
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Slightly but your a lot more likely to die from hs by the AK then either of those, especially at their level of play, but if you got the money i say purchase them anyway
2014-02-26 19:41
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As anders like to say: "against ak it's not a big deal "
2014-02-26 19:21
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United Kingdom rekzulawl
I have always bought normal vest no helm when I play CT, AK is a 1 hit kill to the head anyway and the difference it makes up from nades is fucking minor the max armor you can lose in a round is only 50 anyway
2014-02-26 19:51
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United Kingdom roman~
Its a German theory since 1.6, they didnt buy head armor as CT in gunrounds because AK will kill you with one bullet HS anyway
2014-02-27 00:13
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Sweden imonoz
that's something most teams consider, even my own, but I'm one of those noobs who can't play as good without helmet as with an helmet, same with grenades, I play worse without. I think it has to do with confidence, at least in my case. Was the same in 1.6 for me, I always had to buy full ammo when I could afford it, even though it wasn't always necessary. But just because I like that feeling of being "full equipped" :D
2014-02-27 00:38
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Netherlands woOtbot
I just dont buy HE grenade, so I go for helmet instead, to me HE is useless in go.
2014-02-27 00:55
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Canada ckwL
People are DDoS'ing now so they can win skins.
2014-02-26 18:12
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World j0nmayne
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:12
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Germany MaikysuN
NiP is still the best team. In BO3 or BO5 NiP will beat Titan!
2014-02-26 18:12
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
Titan beat NiP in BO3 at this tournament!
2014-02-26 18:15
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Poland mynio:D
nope.
2014-02-26 18:15
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I hope so~
2014-02-26 18:48
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Hungary Tibbze
stats says otherwise.
2014-02-26 19:05
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Europe ALB|BlooD|
nope.
2014-02-26 20:23
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Bosnia and Herzegovina vlada-
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:13
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fnatic just good, not very good.
2014-02-26 18:14
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World regardzz
so we are just ignoring the fact that titan lost to iBP at esea? like never happened ? still best team easily?
2014-02-26 18:15
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
Try reading it next time.
2014-02-26 18:17
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Sweden dafl4m
You expect HLTV users to read and understand? They can barely write English as it is.
2014-02-27 05:09
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World pppzi
fkup u punctual virg~~!!!
2014-02-28 16:05
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He mentions it 2 or 3 times lol
2014-02-26 18:37
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Slovakia STYKOp
Geez, that Thoorin's article is not a shortread
2014-02-26 18:16
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Worth it though :)
2014-02-26 18:27
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Slovakia STYKOp
Some parts are so unnecesarry detailed. Was really boring read in a lot of moments
2014-02-26 18:36
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If he could write that about fnatic i think he could write an entire book on just CSGO... but it was a really well made, "article." Lnao You gotta respect his passion for CSGO, ill give him that.
2014-02-26 21:44
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Ukraine blasph2m33
I read "ill give him hat" for the first time lel, counter-fortress 2 :D
2014-02-27 09:28
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I knew most of the main storyline, the details (as in the statements etc) are what makes it so special
2014-02-27 01:22
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France -huhu-
that was nice reading; thx
2014-02-26 18:17
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Finland teco
Always thought that flusha is a very talented player. He's so underrated.
2014-02-26 18:17
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United States omgannette
"Titan, the former VeryGames squad, took part in ESEA Invite Season 15 global finals in Dallas in mid-January, but were also without proper opposition despite ultimately placing second." What? How could they be without proper opposition and lose? Very good read tho.
2014-02-26 18:20
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Macau iknowit
bec. a 1 hit wonder appeared.
2014-02-26 18:26
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Norway ejzzirhc
+1 nooby muricans
2014-02-26 19:48
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nooby murricans beat VG/Titan both times they went to ESEA Lan sad
2014-02-26 20:00
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Czech Republic Phoenixor
U need to process whole spectrum. Which teams ibp lost to. Which teams they lose to. Titan/VG didnt lose to anybody on daily basis. They used to lose to nip. But they completely turned it around. They didnt lose again fnatic or AD or poles or navi and such a team ever since csgo start. Yes they lost sometimes against comlexity but or ipb. But its just a small dent. Point is nobody perfect. But titan better overall than anybody else at this moment. If ibp and titan would play xx matches over x days you and me both knows that eventually titan would come of top more than ipb. Thats just how it is.
2014-02-26 22:39
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Not necessarily true. eoLithic was known as the "godslayer" because they always managed to beat Heaton/Potti every time when NiP/SK were pretty much raping everyone else, yet eoL was always somewhere near the lower end of a top 10 team. Do I think Titan are a better team than both ibp and coL? Of course. But I think both NA teams match up well against VG for whatever reason, as all previous encounters would indicate. If either NA team has to face Titan at EMS, I would only favor Titan by 60-40.
2014-02-27 06:23
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United States omgannette
lol ty
2014-02-26 20:45
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#99
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World leehwgoC
iBP played Titan 5 maps, on LAN. Won 4 of them. Winning one map is a '1 hit wonder'. Winning 4 of 5 isn't. Obviously. iBP is significantly better without Mosbeck dragging the team down on LAN. Aren't they attending Katowice? If so, watch out.
2014-02-26 20:04
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#126
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United States lurppis
actually they played 8 maps, and won 5. ibp had this roster at dreamhack winter, and bombed. it's not NEARLY as black and white as you suggest.
2014-02-26 20:49
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#32
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Luxembourg moheLdIAbLo
shox>world
2014-02-26 18:20
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#33
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United States boots
n0thing
2014-02-26 18:20
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#34
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Japan WHISPERZOR
titan!
2014-02-26 18:21
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#36
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Czech Republic DaniDM
fnatic good but not best, TITAN BEST!
2014-02-26 18:22
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#38
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Sweden jagaren
great work lurppis
2014-02-26 18:23
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#39
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France cedd
ive been saying the same thing about flusha since summer last year, he's a monster and deserves a little more backup and assistance from his teammates. IMO if fnatic want to get back in the top 3 (to me they are now around 5th) they have to replace devilwalk.
2014-02-26 18:24
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#46
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Sweden WZY
Bad troll article, Titan had played official matches and NiP hadn't.
2014-02-26 18:29
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#47
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France samsem
Titan have the argument to be TOP1 and maybe more potentiel than NiP atm. But, i think NiP has a better mental atm again and i hope Titan get more confidence to dominate all the year.
2014-02-26 18:30
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#140
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
Lol Titan have beaten NiP more times than NiP has beaten them in the past few months
2014-02-26 21:34
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Great report :) Luru da Gremling <3 Not gonna reply here more since this is not the place for it but I was writing a similar blog, will be replying to this soon.
2014-02-26 18:31
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#54
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Latvia shevijs
In this stage of CS;GO, in early 2014, I think too many peaople are forgetting teams like NaVi, Virtus.Pro and LGB. Great teams, teams with lot of potencial, new line-ups and so much time to work and pracc together. I think its wrong to concentrate to this top 4 and NIP>Titans or Titans<NIP. I am sure, these teams will be so big threat going into 2014 events and even overcome top. :)
2014-02-26 18:36
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navi nope, VP maybe
2014-02-26 19:17
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#58
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Spain lolfake
ye its funny,before dreamhack winter final "fnatic has to really lucky to get one map blablabla and if they get more than 10 rounds each map is already good" ,fnatic wins dreamhack "fnatic blablabla" just accept the fact that they won the biggest counter strike tournament EVER and verygames finished 4th place with losses against complexity whom fnatic completely demolished lol
2014-02-26 18:42
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#69
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Czech Republic Phoenixor
Whos arguing about that ? Fnatic won the biggest tournament. This is true. Whos complaining about that ? That doesnt make em best team in the world.
2014-02-26 18:59
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dude, you're so stupid
2014-02-26 19:17
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#60
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India nervQus
Nice update lurp, n0thing deserves a spot in one the best players! NiP f0rest foreverrrrr
2014-02-26 18:43
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#94
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World leehwgoC
I would say Anger is the best player in North America, currently. n0thing is great and he's been doing this game for a million years now, but for the same reason he's a little overrated, I feel.
2014-02-26 19:52
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#61
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f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP
Everybody knows nip on fire are top1
2014-02-26 18:45
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#78
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Sweden badboll
Then u haven't seen Titan on fire.
2014-02-26 19:08
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#62
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Finland x4^
Great article Tomi! Very good thing that finally some official discussion about DDOSSing!
2014-02-26 18:48
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#68
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Azerbaijan Talley
6. Lurpiss should show more emotion during games.
2014-02-26 18:55
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#81
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Slovakia Strenki
+1
2014-02-26 19:16
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#210
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Spain hda-karnaza
+2 and we want RED EYE casting katowice!
2014-03-04 17:02
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#71
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China Uniy64
Flusha is really strong now. I think he would make top 10 this year. Get_right might need some warm up games. He seemed to be a little out of form at the beginning of the first map. So did Xizt. Friberg is doing consistent. Forest seemed to be really tired. Get some rest maybe. The new IGL fiffy, well, we don't really know what he got yet. Probably Nip should try to find a good awper to be the support player. NBK and shox have been very consistent. The only weakness of Titan now is Scream. He needs to be consistent as well to get the trophy for Titan.
2014-02-26 18:59
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#161
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Netherlands PoepieMoe D=
With a beast ScreaM Titan will be the dominant team :).
2014-02-27 00:10
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#164
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China Uniy64
+1
2014-02-27 00:32
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#73
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Pieter | 
Netherlands Grifte
Flusha is indeed a great player. Hope he can keep it up.
2014-02-26 19:01
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#77
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Russia Sample_
fnatic maybe good team but not best player (jw best)
2014-02-26 19:05
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#85
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France skàar
really great article once again
2014-02-26 19:38
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#88
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Lithuania epzX
Titan ftw
2014-02-26 19:42
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#89
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Norway ejzzirhc
Titan > World
2014-02-26 19:45
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#90
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World leehwgoC
"Titan, the former VeryGames squad, took part in ESEA Invite Season 15 global finals in Dallas in mid-January, but were also without proper opposition despite ultimately placing second." Complexity finishes top 4 in Dreamhack Winter, iBP beats Titan in 4 of 5 maps at the ESEA LAN (now that they've gotten rid of that onliner Mosbeck)... and yet these teams don't qualify as 'proper opposition' for Titan at that latter event? Yeah, okay, lurppis. Don't quit your day-job, bud.
2014-02-26 19:58
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NA teams will forever maintain an underdog status until they can consistently win internationally. I think both coL and IBP, but we'll see at EMS.
2014-02-26 20:04
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#103
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World leehwgoC
Demonstrates how European-biased the scene currently is. A NA team will be auto-relegated to second-class if they didn't play as well when they traveled across the Atlantic, but we've seen repeatedly now Titan getting a free after having done exactly the same thing. Well, regardless, coL still finished top 4 at Dreamhack Winter, and iBP was saddled with online-superstar Mosbeck at that event, whom they've since cut. Judging from Dallas, it's proven to be a dramatic improvement for them. Assuming iBP goes to Katowice, it will be interesting to see how they fare in Poland with their new line-up which just spanked Titan on LAN.
2014-02-26 20:16
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#119
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Europe k9ken
mosbeck did not play with ibp at dreamhack.
2014-02-26 20:43
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#91
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Russia zhora32ru
n0thing
2014-02-26 19:47
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#96
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Portugal hacksel
so, !BP>titan>nip? kill yourself asap
2014-02-26 19:52
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#105
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Sweden Quink666
Worst article EU
2014-02-26 20:19
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#106
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Europe ALB|BlooD|
as always, lurppis hates so much NiP cry lurppis baby, cry... NiP still the best team, no doubt about it ;)
2014-02-26 20:25
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#107
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United Kingdom Mega^
shox > everyone
2014-02-26 20:21
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#108
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Russia fi0let
n0thing
2014-02-26 20:21
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#111
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Brazil Vanrei
Yeah, sure. Titan played only de_nuke against Nip and two close maps and they are the best.
2014-02-26 20:27
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#112
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United Kingdom Cryzark
NiP is still can be considered #1. No one has come even close to what they did last year, teams have finally caught up to them, that's expected. #1 NiP #2 Verygames I'll only consider VeryGames #1 when they have beaten NiP in pretty much every single tourney in this year. This is just my opinion though, no offence to any VG fans.
2014-02-26 20:28
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implying they have fans
2014-02-26 20:40
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#118
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United Kingdom Turbopig
This logic is retarded. 'what they did last year' It's how they compare to teams now, not how dominant they once were that determines how good a team is. It's like saying Mike Tyson should be ranked higher than the klitschko brothers in a current top10
2014-02-26 20:45
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#124
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France skàar
+1
2014-02-26 20:46
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#113
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Argentina Crotazzo
what did we learn? 5. ddosing is a real problem 4. refer to 5. 3. refer to 5. 2. refer to 5. 1. always shave your mustache
2014-02-26 20:32
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#114
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United Kingdom Cryzark
+1
2014-02-26 20:35
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#123
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Argentina Crotazzo
altough on a more serious relply: what did we learn? 5. ddosing is a real problem 4. refer to 5. 3. refer to 5. 2. refer to 5. 1. refer to 5. Csgo related we haven't learn anything
2014-02-26 20:46
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#115
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Sweden Abolishing
+1 good read lurppis
2014-02-26 20:38
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#122
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Turkey yeops
"According to Löic "RegnaM" Pèron it's not very hard to secure yourself from being DDoSsed" Can someone explain how?
2014-02-26 20:46
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#158
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Denmark gravityy
There's no technical reasons for the players, the servers or the LANs to reveal their IPs publicly, and as long as they're hidden the only targets would be the GOTV (for which extra relays can cheaply be added) or the stream, which would mean targeting twitch, which is much harder to bring down, because they have the resources to secure themselves and to prosecute DDOS'ers. Currently IPs for players are mostly leaked by IRC (it can be hidden by using +x or using a proxy) and skype. I'm not sure exactly how server IPs are leaked, but I've heard that it can be found using the global server list somehow. The LANs should probably have a dedicated line for the stream, which might be hard to do everywhere.
2014-02-26 23:59
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#163
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Sweden dellx
the LANS have no excuse to be DDoSed I agree. Problem at this tourny is that their network IP was leaked via GOTV, then the attacker had them up against a wall after that. Even if they changed their IP the attacker could just scan for IPs in the range of their network which is very easy to do. I don't know if DH managed to change their IP, but if not, they were completely at the mercy of the attacker the entire tourny. Players need to be responsible for not falling victim to an IP logger or go into a circumstance where their IP is open to the public. You should never ever click a link that is from a domain other than youtube,google,facebook. If you wanna be fancy, use TOR Browser or a VPN. If a player has their IP known by the wrong people, contact me and I will give you a video tutorial on how to change your IP via mac address cloning, which is the best current method. Your ISP may help, but they hate renewing IPs for some reason. Online servers are easily found via the master server browser. We have found a method where you can completely hide your server and it will not send status broadcasts of any kind. This will make finding the server only possible if the players themselves give it out to the wrong people, which is very unlikely. So DDoS will be diminishing soon, I guarantee this.
2014-02-27 00:19
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#191
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Belgium gilisen
+1000
2014-02-27 16:40
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#125
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France skàar
regnam for president plzzz
2014-02-26 20:46
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#127
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Netherlands fragtic
NiP > Titan IMO
2014-02-26 21:05
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#129
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Luxembourg crawleroz
I learned that in 2014 sweden can host events worse than indian gaming carnival
2014-02-26 21:10
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#133
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World say my name
2014-02-26 21:18
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#138
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Luxembourg crawleroz
yes it was soooo bad because I really hoped to see some nice matches. I never expected something from Indians
2014-02-26 21:27
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#132
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World say my name
i can you you learn shit=)
2014-02-26 21:18
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#134
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Greece bodipas
We also learned that Lurppis and Tosspot combo shouldn't ever be considered again.
2014-02-26 21:21
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Titan are the world's best team. Again. Again? When titan was world's best team ?
2014-02-26 21:24
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#156
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World say my name
never was, it isn't atm. just lurpiss talking crap again. don't take him seriously. he made "career" in usa, when all murica was playing :sauce
2014-02-26 23:37
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#157
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United States lurppis
actually my career's peak was before my time in eg, which was after cgs, not during it. nice try though.
2014-02-26 23:39
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#195
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Finland Pass_That_40
the level of fail is huge here.
2014-02-27 20:35
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#200
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Belgium Xknower
What a weak reply. Typical of a lack of arguments where you start attacking a person. Even if Lurppis hadn't been a very known and successful player (which he obviously was), does that prevent him from writing an article on CSGO? I won't get to your level but I could say as well: "Who are YOU to think your have more credibility than Lurppis, what is your CSGO expertise?"... So get the fact and figures and deal with it (In addition to trying to be more mature)
2014-02-28 01:24
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#137
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United States FLUFFYJ
NiP>Titan, anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know CS
2014-02-26 21:26
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#143
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
You Muricans know CS right?
2014-02-26 21:37
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#139
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Canada m4cklove
lurrpis shouldn't be a writer ..titan #1 again...
2014-02-26 21:31
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#142
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
We learn that TITAN are world's best team.
2014-02-26 21:37
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#144
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Sweden Zergeant
Titan is without a doubt the best team and have been for many months. But when I see yet another "NiP is not the best anymore" article I could easily figure out that it was Lurppis who had written it ;)
2014-02-26 21:42
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#149
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Denmark Akandor
without doubt, thats why they lost to IBP..
2014-02-26 22:15
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#173
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World Antifrag
Being number one is not the same thing as being invincible, otherwise NiP would have lost their number one place as soon as their 87 0 0 winning streak was over.
2014-02-27 02:15
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#147
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Brazil lonezord
I think that is no n°1 no more... NiP or Titan can take it anyday being hard to predict... they got the same level pretty much! and thats awesome! its like a cartoon that got good opponents and by the end get 2 great rivals that struggle to fight each other... but this time we dont have a good and a bad guy.... both teams can won any game and it seems to me that will be having times that titan will do better and nip on the other hand aswell from time to time beraly then a domination scenario..
2014-02-26 22:04
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#150
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Denmark Akandor
Win alittle bit and you are suddenly top1. Damn CS scene must be very inconsistent if thats true. So if IBP win alittle bit more over Titan they are new top1?
2014-02-26 22:17
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#172
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World Antifrag
If they do the same with most of the top teams, sure, they'll be a serious candidate. And it's not "winning a little bit", the top1 claim has more than DH Stockholm's stats to back it up. You have to get the big picture if you want to get an accurate ranking at one moment in time, and generally the most relevant data is within a range of 6 months (for CS at least). 6 months from now, if IBP manage to, let's say, win EMS Katowice, then win one or two other tournaments against top teams, they could be a candidate for top1, even if ultimately it also depends on how the other top teams perform, and on their attendance to international LANs.
2014-02-27 02:14
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#152
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World angelsole
lurppis da best , nice article dude
2014-02-26 22:42
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#153
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World Reaper1337
csgolounge is a crime.
2014-02-26 22:47
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#155
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Canada fuLLi
we learned that like the end of 1.6, csgo has the same 4 teams invted to a 'tournament' and its still very boring. cs died when CPL and its big ass 64 team tournaments died (also we can include early WCGs and ESWCs).
2014-02-26 23:33
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#175
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World Antifrag
No, the real problem is that there is tournaments only 4 teams. The fact that it's always the same teams only reveal that there is a gap between the top4 teams and the rest, which is not surprising, and not necessarily a bad thing.
2014-02-27 02:20
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#160
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Poland oFi
now i know that valve put a lot of money in this game, and it will become like stupid League of legends where a lot of noobs playing on hacks. GG
2014-02-27 00:08
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#167
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France personalj
What Lurpis implies is that nip will have to swap fifflaren with another player if they want to come back on top. And seriously if they don't finish top 2 at the ems fiffy takes off.
2014-02-27 01:02
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#169
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World takA;
Well, no team will be the top forever. It's just a matter of time. I still believe can reclaim the throne once again.
2014-02-27 01:51
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#177
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United States mah9
I just don't think going back to October is going far enough. NiP was preparing for DHW, where they bested VG when it mattered most. losing to fnatic in the finals are as unimportant as Titan losing to iBP as far as being #1. It's all going to get settled at katowice, this past mini tourney was poorly run not letting the players settle in, but more importantly it was all bo1's playing a bo3 is so much more telling to the actual level of a team than just playing one map. NiP is definitely the favorite for me going into Katowice. Its often the case that the absolute best team has a team that contains the key to beating them for a certain period of time(or just more often throughout their respective careers all together) but that doesn't make that team the best overall. I see it being much more likely that Titan gets taken out by a team other than NiP, I think NiP will cruise to the finals if they don't encounter Titan, which will be a toss up for who wins.
2014-02-27 04:22
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#197
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United States lurppis
hard to take you seriously when you compare the biggest event ever to esea finals with regards to world rankings...
2014-02-28 00:31
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#178
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Korea jookie
NiP fan, but SO glad to see Titan doing better than them recently. Getting more and more entertaining to watch.
2014-02-27 04:24
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#181
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Argentina viciecal
shitty thread tbh
2014-02-27 06:16
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Lurrpis is a very biased writer and i can hardly take his articles even remotely seriously, his commentary was absolutely dreadful as well , even thorin would have done a better job of writing this article
2014-02-27 06:48
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#192
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United States lurppis
of course thorin could have written a better article, he's significantly more skilled as a writer than i am.
2014-02-27 17:39
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Better writer? Of course. Better co-caster? No way.
2014-02-27 18:44
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#212
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United Kingdom jimak
Still much better options such as threat or even henryG
2014-03-05 01:26
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#187
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Australia tommytoan
flusha is an interesting pick, imo i think lurppis may be reaching a bit high. scream is an irresistible talent, I think he is still yet to hit his best form. Scream reminds me a lot of f0rest in late 2006 and 2007 fnatic, where although he was an undoubted superstar on the rise, he was still learning the ins and outs of the competitive rigmarole. I can see scream in the next few years, convincingly take over the mantle from gtr and f0rest as best player in the world. The longer csgo goes on, the more he will dominate matches.
2014-02-27 09:40
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#196
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United States lurppis
f0rest was the worlds best in 2007, post-dhw scream isnt even one of the top 3 best players in his own team. before dhw he was nuts though, but since then hes been 3-4th best in vg/titan depending on smithzz form.
2014-02-27 23:21
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#188
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Finland teppo123
we learned that 1.6 > cs:go away
2014-02-27 12:41
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#189
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Denmark entify
lol cs.go is way better than 1.6.
2014-02-27 12:54
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#194
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Croatia VuKA*
I learned that lurppis is worst caster ever but best writer ever...
2014-02-27 20:23
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you obviously havent heard some seriously shitty casters :D
2014-02-28 14:58
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#199
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World ActionBoy
to settle the score between the teams, take in consideration best 5 of country at wcg
2014-02-28 00:38
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#204
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broky | 
Switzerland eLipzz
It's "Loïc 'RegnaM' Péron" and not Löic "RegnaM" Pèron
2014-02-28 17:51
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#205
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Albania hidex43
gj
2014-03-01 13:54
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#206
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Greenland peter-
gj
2014-03-02 17:42
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#209
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Russia daydreamer_7
i learned that being stream host in nervous job
2014-03-04 01:00
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#211
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Sweden  magnus
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2014-03-04 18:04
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#213
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United Kingdom Alth
Dont see many people being able to challenge Shox this year.
2014-03-06 01:18
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Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States WilbuRsson
Lurppis, you stat guy, can you give me Titan/VG's placing at their last maybe 5-10 events, I dont see how winning one event makes you the best team. If NiP truly fell off or any of these teams could win JUST 2 straight tourneys you could say they were the best team and you wouldn't have to, everyone would already know.
2014-03-09 01:01
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