HellRaisers knock Titan out of EMS

13-3-2014 19:26

HellRaisers have upset Titan 16-14 (7-8, 9-6) on de_inferno at EMS One to knock the French-Belgian side out of the $250,000 tournament and advance to the playoffs.

Titan started the match off well, as they scored a quick 5-0 lead as counter-terrorists on de_inferno. Yegor "markeloff" Markelov's HellRaisers fought back in a must-win situation though, winning four of their own.

In-game leader Kevin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans' double in B stopped the CIS-based team's winning streak, and made it 6-4 for Titan. Next three rounds would go for HR once more, as they were able to best Titan's defense.

Two kills from Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux stopped HR in B and tied the game at seven, and Titan won the final round as well to end the half with a narrow 8-7 lead.

Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov's four P2000 kills won HR the second half pistol round, and a double from both him and Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow secured the second round despite Titan's force buy effort.

HellRaisers celebrating knocking Titan out of EMS One

After a save Titan were trailing 8-10, but got within a round by quickly taking out Karasiow and Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev in B. Markelov then won a key one-on-one by jumping and surprising Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom.

Markelov and Stolyarov then stopped Titan's A attack and forced them to save, making it 13-9, before a HR retake of A with Stolyarov still hiding in pit gave them round number fourteen.

An amazing four kill effort by Benrlitom, who finished the round with two taps in a one-on-two, kept Titan alive as they won two straight rounds, forcing HellRaisers on a save.

Titan faltered on their anti-eco as Stolyarov took down Droolans in a one-on-one, giving HellRaisers four match point to work with a 15-11 lead and Titan with low money.

A molotov based B attack won Titan the first round, and they quickly got within one. The final round saw a bombsite A stack for HR pull through, as they clinched a 16-14 win.

EMS One Katowice 2014Best of 1

HellRaisers

Matchpage

13th March 2014

Titan

Inferno

HellRaisers	K - D	+/-	ADR	KAST	Rating1.0
Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov Dosia	27 - 16	+11	-	-	1.36
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov markeloff	23 - 19	+4	-	-	1.15
Emil 'kUcheR' Akhundov kUcheR	22 - 21	+1	-	-	1.15
Kyrylo 'ANGE1' Karasiow ANGE1	13 - 20	-7	-	-	0.71
Dauren 'AdreN' Kystaubayev AdreN	11 - 20	-9	-	-	0.64

Titan	K - D	+/-	ADR	KAST	Rating1.0
Richard 'shox' Papillon shox	26 - 19	+7	-	-	1.26
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom ScreaM	20 - 17	+3	-	-	1.08
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux SmithZz	24 - 20	+4	-	-	1.04
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans Ex6TenZ	13 - 18	-5	-	-	0.73
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt NBK-	13 - 22	-9	-	-	0.68

HellRaisers advance to EMS One Katowice's playoffs as the second seed from group A behind Virtus.pro. The 9-12th place finish is the worst in Titan's CS:GO history.

2014-03-13 19:27

6 replies

ez pz #TITANFALL "what we learn TITAN is top 1 now." OK

2014-03-13 19:37

3 replies

good riddance, that gaming house sure payed off =D=D

2014-03-13 19:45

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yes hahahaha edit: fail of the year.

2014-03-13 19:47

Titan orga: reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012..

2014-03-13 19:50

G fucking G

2014-03-13 20:15

youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg6ZKK8xUc

2014-03-13 22:07

baaaad

2014-03-13 19:27

7 replies

gooooodd

2014-03-13 19:28

...performance by NBK.

2014-03-13 19:30

5 replies

He has been underperfoming since this year started.

2014-03-13 19:38

4 replies

he played really good right before ems tbh

2014-03-13 19:40

3 replies

not really. Bottom frag in Titan in fragbite.

2014-03-13 20:02

2 replies

well he played decent in the games i watched.

2014-03-13 20:36

he was awesome on dh invitational, and dont count online tournaments like lans, cuz its not the same... just look at fnatic, they suck online but rape on lan

2014-03-13 21:41

BET MORE

2014-03-13 19:27

Titanic

2014-03-13 19:27

23 replies

:D nice :D

2014-03-13 19:28

Good one. :D

2014-03-13 19:29

hahahahahah n1

2014-03-13 19:29

wp :D

2014-03-13 19:30

AHAHAAHAHA Well Played SIR :D:D

2014-03-13 19:31

best

2014-03-13 19:32

Ahahahahahahaha :D

2014-03-13 19:33

yeah lol

2014-03-13 19:34

comment of the day

2014-03-13 19:34

good :)

2014-03-13 19:34

lool

2014-03-13 19:35

lol..... goodone

2014-03-13 19:36

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH nice one :D

2014-03-13 19:38

hahahha

2014-03-13 19:38

:)) Best one so far, sir. +1

2014-03-13 19:40

lol nice game of words:D

2014-03-13 19:41

rofl =)

2014-03-13 19:44

hahaha n1!

2014-03-13 19:48

HUEWHUEHUHUWHUEHUEEEEEEUUUUU xDDDD

2014-03-13 20:15

2014-03-13 20:54

lool

2014-03-14 02:05

thanks to this group stage bo1 crap, we are now stuck with a less exciting bracket, as one of the leading teams has been knocked out. Can't wait for cph games to come around, only then will we know he truly is the best, seeing as we won't have the luck factor as we do here.

2014-03-13 19:29

118 replies

groupstages are usually bo1 anyway, titan simply lost , end of discussion, when you lose 2 matches, you lose for good, it's as a fair as it gets

2014-03-13 19:31

56 replies

how is it as fair as it gets? copenhagen games have always done bo3 group stages, it's pretty crucial to have this format, especially since csgo is more random than previous titles.

2014-03-13 19:33

46 replies

bo1 is good enough for groupstages, anyways two lost games in group even with old system mean out of tournament

2014-03-13 19:37

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the group stage is one of the most important parts of the tournament. If you do well, you are set up to have a easier road to the final. If the group stages are bo1 where there is a lot of room for randomness, this all goes to shit. It's pretty fucking obvious titan should be in the bracket, but all it took was 2 maps, and now, there is no chance. bo3 almost ensure that the truly best team has won.

2014-03-13 19:39

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did u see some randomness in these matches? It was clearly obvious that virtus.pro and hellraisers played better than titan, so why should they advance?

2014-03-13 20:10

17 replies

If they were bo3s, Titan would probably have gone through. Sure they played better than them in those games, but could they do it a second time? We will not know, therefore, we won't know if the truly the best team went though.

2014-03-13 20:38

16 replies

obviously u didnt watch that match, titan can be glad they won 14 rounds

2014-03-13 20:44

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Maybe in this one game, in this one map, yes. But play another map; if HR win a second time, then they are clearly the better team on this day, and should go through. If titan win the second game, and then the third, then they are the better team on this day, and deserve to go through.

2014-03-13 20:48

5 replies

matches in groups were always bo1, deal with it

2014-03-13 20:57

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wait till copenhagen games and you will see the superior system in action, with the absolute best teams progress to the bracket, meaning the absolute best match-ups, and the best entertainment.

2014-03-13 21:05

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you are blind, that headshots from dosia and markeloff was one level above titans. There was no way to win that even in bo3

2014-03-13 21:09

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That may well be the case, and if HR had won a second map, this would be all but confirmed. But whether or not the best team went through is still questionable. Who are we to say if titan would have won the next two maps? Only with a bo3 can we be sure the better team won. There is less percentage uncertainty.

2014-03-13 21:16

Stop being a blind fanboy they lost on inferno (titans best map)

2014-03-13 23:27

It seemed pretty definitive in those two matches that Titan doesn't deserve to move on.

2014-03-13 20:46

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How can you say that? Yes, I agree they played bad in both games, but playing more maps in a game will ensure that the other team is truly better, or that titan is truly better, if they happen to comeback.

2014-03-13 20:49

7 replies

But do we really want to ensure the other team is truly better? I don't think it is about who is truly better, but about who wins. They played plenty of matches to show their stuff, it is not like it was single elimination. They got STEAMED by virtus, and lost their mental game against HR. That ensures to me that they don't deserve to move on, regardless of if they're "truly better". To me this brings excitement into the group stages. If you only want "truly good" teams then why not just invite 8 teams, and not have group stages . . .

2014-03-13 21:37

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At majors like this, yes, the better teams should have a higher chance of progressing. I'm all for having bo1 games in lesser tournaments, where upsets have a higher chance of happening. But when there is this much money up for grabs, it seems just down right disregarding to deserving teams that have 2 unlucky/random maps. And I'm am not at all saying that this was the case with HR. But only with another map or two, will we have a better idea of who was more deserving to go through on this day.

2014-03-13 21:42

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I feel like making it harder for lesser teams to win major tournaments is terrible for aspiring teams ...

2014-03-13 21:45

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Why? If they are not as good, they aren't as deserving as teams that put in more effort to get as good as they are. If lesser tournaments continue to run the bo1 matches, then they have a shot in those matches. And at the end of the day, everyone starts somewhere. Big teams didn't get where they are by starting in the biggest tournament around, and getting a few lucky wins. If they are good enough, then they will win. If not, they will lose, but eventually everyone gets better. Maybe they will be in with a shot next time.

2014-03-13 21:50

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They are pulling strats that the other team hasn't seen before because of how the other team practices. If HR had to play Titan 30 times to get out of group stages, Titan would be able to adjust to their play. That's why Titan only wins against NiP. Watching Titan play NiP is terribly boring in my opinion. Watching a team give the strats they have against an unprepared team and snag the win, but having the win mean nothing because then they just adjust and out-aim is terrible.

2014-03-13 21:53

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wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Just to make sure I understand, are you basically saying as the number of maps approaches infinity, the winner is determined more and more by aim, as strats simply don't work anymore? That's a pretty smart way of looking at it if I understand correctly. It's a shame it's taken this long for the people I'm debating with to come up with this point. I guess the others just don't know why bo1s are actually better than bo3s. But this makes a lot of sense.

2014-03-13 22:01

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Thank you, at least we finally came up with something :)

2014-03-13 22:07

how is obvios that they should be in the bracket when they lost 2 games ???? are you a fanboy who lost all his assets beting on them ???

2014-03-13 20:37

4 replies

They lost 2 maps, if they lost 4 maps then I would be convinced that they deserved to go out.

2014-03-13 20:40

3 replies

ok, tell them to atend only bo3 tournaments so they have a chance if they cant prove they are nr1 in the world then they arent

2014-03-13 20:47

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Why would they only attend bo3 tournaments? But yes, I agree that winning bo3 group stage tournaments gives a strong case for said team to be one of the best in the world. CPH games is harder to win than EMS/DHW after all. It's just a shame that all the big money tournaments run with this inferior group system.

2014-03-13 21:08

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Ur true hltv.org logic arnt u if this was a moba game bo3s wud b harder but since it's fps game n has a lot of split second decisions n it's only group stage ofc bo1s r harder cus u have to more creative n make less room 4 error to deserve a spot in the bo3s. U sir is a retard. Not 2 mention bo3 group stage is extremely boring to watch n stay entertained knowing it's only groups play

2014-03-14 02:19

bo3 group stage is boring in spectators point of view.. Yes.. many hardcore cs fanboys would jizz on it but it would be boring overall, games take too much time, delays, pauses between games etc

2014-03-13 19:37

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I think it's pretty sad that tournaments are set up primarily for spectators. The absolute first group of people the tournament should be for is the players. It is their fucking job after all, yet they are being penalised because some spectators can't be bothered to watch more than one map, like you.

2014-03-13 19:42

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lol, obviously spectators matter the most. wayne rooney would never get 300k a week salary if there were absolutely no people who come to see him play football. Same goes for cs players. Audience is what generates revenue to tournaments

2014-03-13 20:05

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It's not like bo3 is impossible for spectators to watch, if it is so bad for you, why don't you just watch the bracket, which will obviously better as a bo3 group stage will ensure the best teams are in the bracket, meaning we have the best possible match-ups.

2014-03-13 20:34

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It's not impossible to watch, but bo1 is just more interesting. More pace, every mistake counts, surprises, quicker games, faster schedule etc. For example look what is happenging now.. delays! If it was bo3 it would take ages to finish the groups and that's boring for the spectators. I personally would prefer bo1 double elimination in the brackets but that's just me

2014-03-13 21:02

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You are entitled to your own opinions, but you have to look at the bigger picture here. bo3 is the best way to ensure fairness across the tournament. And bo1 games in the bracket is such a terrible idea. sorry.

2014-03-13 21:10

To be fair, these tournaments are funded by the spectators seeing how the funded prize pool is from keys and skins. I would still watch bo3 in any format though. More games the better.

2014-03-13 20:06

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I don't see why we need to be bombarded with action, straight from the start. Let's have a bo3 group stage, that ensures the best teams make it to the bracket, meaning we have the best possible match-ups later on. All the action leads up to the quarters/semis/and final.

2014-03-13 20:36

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If everytime there would be same teams in the finals it would be boring. You are like Thorin, who thinks everytime it should be titan vs nip and all other finals are flukes... like wtf? That is just retarded. There should be the element of chance and randomness- that makes it exciting.

2014-03-13 21:05

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I'd rather fairness than upsets, and a little bit more excitement. If NiP and Titan are truly the best teams in the world, then the system should show that. They would be in the final every time, because they deserve it(if they are the best). They may not be the best. But only a bo3 will show that. They very well may have lost to HR still if it was a bo3. But because it was only one map, we will not know who the best is. It might be titan, it might be HR, just because they won one map. It's still questionable. With a bo3, we would know for sure.

2014-03-13 21:14

No tournaments host $250k just to see who's the best on a video game and not marketing -.-

2014-03-14 02:23

what is there to discuss? a better team won, at least this time, groups are fair and each group has strong teams and look even, its Titan's fault they couldnt overpower HR as HR had a stronger game, thats all, so never underestimate a team like that because you gonna lose at the end. Nothing against Titans, love them, but they did make a big mistake pushing down mid when they were leading 5:0 and I think kucher aced them all or did -4 from t ramp winning that 1st rnd for his team and right after that the problems started happenning for Titans, so... ya... gg Well deserved for HR and I love seeing VP come out of the group as well! Great performances by VP and HR!

2014-03-13 19:40

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Did the better team really win? You don't know for sure in bo1, bo3 gives a far more assuring answer. If NiP lost to mouz, can you say the best team won? Obviously NiP are the better team, and there is a strong chance this would be shown in a bo3.

2014-03-13 19:48

7 replies

ok but now stop crying :*

2014-03-13 20:06

someone really mad

2014-03-13 21:15

5 replies

well you'll be mad when me and your mom hit it off tonight

2014-03-13 21:46

4 replies

how much u lost on bets bro

2014-03-14 00:36

3 replies

I actually won 25E value

2014-03-14 15:17

2 replies

DONT LIE TO ME SON

2014-03-16 00:29

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not lying, I figured I never win on these bets and betting on Titan would make 'em auto-win... and then my luck desides to come in... and yes I know this sounds stupid, but it sounded better in my head at the time, but not now tho

2014-03-16 23:21

Groups are fair HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA you should try doing stand up comedy, youre good at it...

2014-03-13 21:45

Are you really saying that bo1 is more relective of each teams skill than bo3?

2014-03-13 19:33

8 replies

No, he is saying that when you lose 2 matches in the group stage against 2 different teams, then you probably don't deserve to advance to the next stage.

2014-03-13 19:40

7 replies

we're talking about bo1 v bo3.

2014-03-13 19:42

5 replies

You can argue that bo3 is more relevant to see which team is better (and it's partially true) but my counter-argument is that in a group stage where you play bo1, you can also see which team has more mental strength, because eventually it will come down to win it or go home (the case of HR vs Titans). So I really believe that HellRaisers deserved to go to the next stage. Also, I may be wrong in this, but it seems to me that Titans are very good against teams whose strats they know very well (like NiP), but they are struggling when they face a team whose strats they don't know that well.

2014-03-13 19:53

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This is the first smart reply I have had so far :) yes I agree completely with your first sentence. But after this is where my opinion differs from almost everyone (it seems) else's. I would rather see the truly best team progress into the bracket, to ensure that we are given the best bracket possible. Rather than an average team take the spot of a great team, thanks to a lucky/random bo1. I'm not saying that HR won't deliver in the bracket, I really hope they do so we get some good matches, but with Titan out, we will have no NiP v Titan classic match-up.(Just one example)

2014-03-13 20:30

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I agree with your point of view, but in the end it is also a matter of preference. For example, I think it is productive for some competitions to have bo3 in group stage and for some competitions to have bo1, just to see how teams perform in different circumstances. However, in a competition with such huge prizes, I think it would've been better to have a bo3. I feel sorry for Titan now the same way I felt sorry for NiP when they lost the DH final.

2014-03-13 20:46

2 replies

+1, not a lot more I can say :) Thanks for a good discussion!

2014-03-13 20:52

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Same here, it's good to see that civilized and open people still post on hltv.org :)

2014-03-13 20:54

Ah okay, it was difficult to understand as it was poorly written.

2014-03-13 19:43

And? In this format the groupstage is as exciting as in the playoffs. And the teams can't "play smart" (can't think of a expression) with the brackets. So... And yet, Titan lost 2 times. So they really deserve to go home.

2014-03-13 19:43

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they lost two bo1s, This isn't as hard to do as you think, especially with the group they had. They are obviously the best team in the group, and bo3 would most likely have shown that. Now the bracket is missing one of the best teams in the world.

2014-03-13 19:55

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But group stages never were bo3 in cs...

2014-03-13 20:01

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wait for copenhagen games, and we will see one of the best brackets of all time. No lucky/random bo1s that send a team into the bracket in place of a great one, causing boring match-ups instead of timeless ones.

2014-03-13 20:24

clueless titanfan spotted

2014-03-13 19:48

7 replies

stfu, I'm not a titan fan, but I do respect them, and just think that a format that is designed for the players, is better than one designed for spectators.

2014-03-13 19:50

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Shut it fanboy. another reason for this system is also not to have important games being played at 3am.. its seen before a team who played staight for 8 hours lost to a less strong team only for that matter. POint is it actually goes both ways. titan couldn't make up for it.

2014-03-13 20:10

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not all games have to played on one day, so that it a pathetic argument.

2014-03-13 20:12

And what is the meaning of esports if not for the spectators? lol.

2014-03-13 20:27

3 replies

The players put in thousands of hours to play 2 maps, because some spectators can't be bothered to watch 2 extra maps. Esports should obviously be influenced by the spectators, but not to the extent where games aren't as fair as they could be.

2014-03-13 20:42

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So? Thinking in the pratical way, the sponsors go where there is spectators. The chances of a upset is not that big. The better teams should pass, since it's double elimination.

2014-03-13 20:48

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The chances are small, I agree, but they are still too big, clearly shown by the swift exit of one of the best teams in the world.

2014-03-13 20:55

It wasn't bo1. Not if you think about it. Because it effectively took two map losses for Titan to be eliminated... which actually is exactly the same number of map losses that gets a team eliminated in a bo3. Titan was beaten twice today, and one of those times they were rolled. They didn't deserve to advance, that's clear.

2014-03-13 19:50

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#289

2014-03-13 20:11

every fucking single tournament uses bo1 in group stages except cph games. this is not an excuse. when you lose two matches in a row in your group you don't deserve to go through

2014-03-13 19:54

8 replies

when you lose two bo1's, there is a chance that both games were unlucky/random, and the best team didn't actually go through. Bo3 would almost certify that truly the best team won.

2014-03-13 20:09

7 replies

it's bo1 where teams play all of their best, just like the last map of a bo3 they must be ready to win if they wanna go through it was bo1 in group ALWAYS.

2014-03-13 20:11

6 replies

copenhagen games uses a bo3 group stage format, and this almost ensures that the truly best teams progress to the bracket, as at least 2 maps being played in a game, means the randomness/luck factor is severely reduced.

2014-03-13 20:17

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So cph games is the only good tournament because of that? Come on, people have been using bo1 group stage for about 13 years.

2014-03-13 20:20

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and normally everything is fine, but every now and again, something like this happens, and once the novelty of HR upsetting Titan disappears, people will start to realise the bracket would have been that much better with them still in it. Which most likely would have been the case if a more fair system was in place during the group stages.

2014-03-13 20:22

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Upsets aren't bad things. And if HR managed to beat them, it will be a cool bracket to watch. You should stop being a biased fanboy.

2014-03-13 20:52

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In tournaments like this, where titan had put in hundreds of hours of work in the last few months, get beaten by a team that admittedly haven't been practising all that much, upsets are bad. If it were in the bracket, and they won in a bo3, we could be assured that the better team won, as there is less percentage uncertainty. But we will never know if HR truly was better on this day, as the following two games were never played.

2014-03-13 20:59

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Jesus christ, are you ever going to stop arguing your incredibly pointless fact about the BO1? I've read a majority of your posts and they all point the everything being about luck and "random". Titan had their chance, if they were the supposed #1 team in the world (Which they never will be or should be linked to ever.) then all the effort they've put in would have assured them of winning at least ONE of their games. They failed, they were out-played. They've always been a team to fail on the big stage. NiP had NO trouble with the bo1 format, is that because they're random and luck was on their side? I'm not saying you're completely wrong, but titan were just out played, and if they couldn't bring themselves to win ONE map, then they don't deserve to go through. Not to mention time constraints and how much it'd cost them to add an extra day to the card just to satisfy your hunger for a bo3, even though a majority of tournaments in history have been double elim brackets, and you've always seen the greater team come out on top in those.

2014-03-14 04:34

group stages are bo1 since cpl berlin 2001. stop writing bs

2014-03-13 20:04

35 replies

copengagen games use bo3, and it's far, far better.

2014-03-13 20:10

34 replies

so the 0.01% of the tournaments are using bo3 on groupstage that is so deadly boring and slow. clap clap

2014-03-13 20:11

33 replies

How is it slow and boring? I'd rather know for sure that the best team went through, rather than be stuck with a situation like we have now, where one of the best teams in the world is missing, meaning less amazing match-ups. NiP v Titan for example.

2014-03-13 20:20

32 replies

Come on, losing two games in a row totally means Titan aren't in a good shape.

2014-03-13 20:28

23 replies

They lost two maps, this isn't a show that they don't deserve to progress. If they had lost 4 maps, then yes. But 2 is not enough. The percentage uncertainty is far too high.

2014-03-13 20:43

22 replies

Anyway doesn't matter what you think, they're going home.

2014-03-13 20:49

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2014-03-13 20:54

I know, and I'm sad for them. But I hope things change in the future, why else would I go through all this trouble?

2014-03-13 20:56

19 replies

The only things that'll change is your diapers and it'll be done by your mother. Don't watch this tournament if you don't like its format and stop bothering people with your bullshit. Titans lost two maps in a row, goodbye.

2014-03-13 21:29

18 replies

so do you think that the truly best team went through today?

2014-03-13 21:32

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I won't start an argument with you because you're retarded. I am pretty sure that most spectators prefer upsets like this one to matches with predictable outcomes where the "best teams" (whatever that means) win most of the time.

2014-03-13 21:39

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That is a fair point of view, but I think that at this kind of event, with this much money up for grabs, the better teams should always progress to the bracket. In other lesser tournaments, upsets are good for spectators and entertainment. But when deserving teams get an unlucky map, they should at least have another chance(second map) to show whether or not the first map was lucky/random or not.

2014-03-13 21:45

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Dude, what do you mean with "better" or "deserving" teams? You can't eliminate randomness from any game, be it BO1 or BO3, and you surely cannot say "team x practiced twice as much so they deserve to win/get to the brackets" because by that logic bellends like you would only shut up if the ultimate rankings would end up accordingly to the effort the respective teams put into preparation - and that is ridiculous. Spectators want to be entertained and that's what upsets do more than anything else. If the fucking tournament would use single-elimination in the group stage and Titan would have lost their first game then they would have been the WORSE team on that particular occasion, end of the story. If you can't deal with randomness then sports is not for you. You knew the rules beforehand so either shut up and watch the games or don't watch the tournament and wait for CPH.

2014-03-13 21:57

12 replies

You eliminate so much more randomness with a bo3, it's unreal. And yes, that's what I'm saying it should be like in major tournaments such as this one. In lesser tournaments, by all means, increase the chance of upsets by making matches bo1s. I don't know about you, but I want to see the best semis/final possible. And with bo3 group stages, we can greatly increase the chances that the best teams progress. If you knew what percentage uncertainty was, you'd understand what I'm saying.

2014-03-13 21:55

11 replies

Tell me how you ensure the "best semis/finals possible"? Do you think that it is a given that when, let's say Titan and NiP clash it's gonna be a hell of a game? I can't imagine how much excitement and what kind of a community boost it would mean for a team like VP or HR to make it to the final, let alone win this thing. If you want a healthy, powerful scene to watch then you have to allow for randomness - your "better teams" simply weren't better today, and that's when it counted. They knew that.

2014-03-13 22:02

10 replies

If VP or HR do happen to make it to the final, then they deserve it, that is what I'm saying. If the tournament is set up in a way that that better teams progress, and keep progressing then by all means, they should be considered among the best.

2014-03-13 22:04

9 replies

They deserve it even though they got through lucky groupstage (your words)? On what basis do you decide what's "deserved" and what's not? Care to share your statistical expertise?

2014-03-13 22:16

8 replies

"If VP or HR do happen to make it to the final, then they deserve it" I'm talking about a tournament with a bo3 group stage. Only in this scenario will we know that they deserved to be there, and that they are were the better team in each of their match-ups. In bo1, the luck/randomness factor is much greater, so we will not know if the better team went through.

2014-03-13 22:26

7 replies

I ask you again: how do you define "the better team"?

2014-03-13 22:32

6 replies

The teams that wins a match, where luck/randomness is minimised, ie, a bo3. With a bo1, you'll still have a high level of luck/randomness and will not not for certain if the better team won.

2014-03-13 22:34

5 replies

so what if I started pledging for BO5 instead of BO3 now? Now it would be easy to make out new factors that emerge and play into the equation: tiredness, hunger etc. It's the same when talking about BO1 VS BO3: there are factors involved in both which affect the games, but I can argue that Titan knew many months in advance that the group stage would feature a double-elimination BO1 and who their enemies would be - and they couldn't prepare for it adequately, which means that they were the WORSE team today and went home DESERVINGLY. Randomness is always involved and you can simply not say that there is less randomness in a BO3 than a BO1 because there are always factors that you don't take into consideration. Randomness is simply the word you use for these factors unknown to you.

2014-03-13 22:47

4 replies

with a bo1, randomness is too big, with a bo5, the issues you raised are too great. That is why a bo3 is the ultimate format. Why else would it be played in the brackets?

2014-03-13 22:46

3 replies

So why else do almost ALL other tournaments except CPH use BO1 DOUBLE-elimination group stages? And how can you know that BO3 is perfect for establishing who is the "better" team at any given moment? Where are your scientific studies proving that claim? All you do is trying to convince people of your uneducated, arbitrary statement that "BO3 is the real thing" which a) nobody agrees with and b) nobody cares because people value emotions, excitement and upsets more than predictable games where the big names win most of the time, thus making watching games boring, damaging the scene as a whole and destroying the foundation for YOUR entertainment (and bitching).

2014-03-13 23:00

2 replies

Bo3 isn't chosen because organisers have to compensate for their lack of security and inefficiency. As I said before, in majors, it is way more exciting for spectators, and fair for players with fairer games. Amzing matchups with the best teams, is more exciting than upsets.

2014-03-13 23:21

1 reply

Since you don't react to my arguments I'll do the same with yours: bull-shit. Everybody knew what the groupstage-system would be and if Titans failed to deliver then it's goodbye for them, that simple. As somebody before me already pointed out to you: they even lost like a BO3 because they lost two straight BO1s in a row, one of which wasn't even a close game, so they practically lost a BO3 because to lose one means to lose two different maps in a row - which they did. Obviously they weren't the "better" team that day because better teams tend to win against teams that aren't top-tier, and even if they lose a map they don't lose two. The "better" team should show nerves of steel and be more experienced in situations like these, which, again, they didn't in two different, consecutive maps - and their opponents weren't NiP. This may lead to the conclusions that they weren't the "better" team that day, but will bounce back or that they simply aren't "better" than VP or HR from now on. Talking about "randomness" or "deserving wins" is nonsensical.

2014-03-14 09:38

And you wouldn't start an argument with him, haha.

2014-03-14 04:52

1 reply

Lol, sure he wouldn't

2014-03-14 08:47

its not good for the spectators. also cph games uses the same format as the other tournaments. its called gsl format

2014-03-13 21:16

7 replies

I'm not talking about GSL, I'm talking about bo1 v bo3 group stages. CPH games use a bo3 group stage format, with is far superior as it ensures the best team progresses to the bracket. More maps in a game, means less percentage uncertainty. And if spectators can't be bother to watch one, maybe two, extra maps, then I weep for the esports community.

2014-03-13 21:19

6 replies

copenhagengames.com/updated-csgo-tournam.. you are a new user obviously and you dont know why this format prevailed. back in 03 everyone had this discussion should we play mr 12 or 15? should we play all 30 rounds or just the 16? should we play double elimination bo3? the better solution for everyone was the bo1 double elimination group stage and bo3 playoffs. with this, players dont have to get super tired and play all day. also tournaments last fewer days, so the cost is lower, casters have an easier job to do and also there is a pressure on players to bring their A-game. and is better for the underdogs. So start thinking before you write you personal preference

2014-03-13 21:24

5 replies

Why did you send me this? Did you even fucking read my post? Idgaf that it is GSL. That is not what I'm talking about.

2014-03-13 21:22

4 replies

oh ok

2014-03-13 21:25

3 replies

Sorry for being so aggressive, I'm pretty passionate about this :)

2014-03-13 21:27

2 replies

just read my edited post to get some past knowledge

2014-03-13 21:28

1 reply

uhh, As I said before, I have no problem with GSL so I don't know why you keep mentioning it. As for the the time/effort issue with bo3 that you mentioned. I think that it shouldn't be used all the time. But certainly with majors it is far more superior than bo1 group stages. If they are majors, they shouldn't be easy to win (relative to other tournaments). It should take more effort to win majors, as they are much more rewarding.

2014-03-13 21:36

omg, people are saying this for months. i guess we'll have to wait 100 years to find out which team is the best...

2014-03-13 20:06

2014-03-13 20:52

2014-03-13 19:27

Well Played, HellRaisers!

2014-03-13 19:27

1 reply

+10000000000000000000000000000

2014-03-13 19:44

disappointed..

2014-03-13 19:27

2 replies

youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY

2014-03-13 19:34

1 reply

haha!

2014-03-13 23:32

That was an incredible game. Congrats to HR. #titanfall

2014-03-13 19:27

HR wp <3

2014-03-13 19:27

#Titanfall

2014-03-13 19:27

2014-03-13 19:28

Titanfall

2014-03-13 19:28

EZPZLMNSQZ

2014-03-13 19:28

cant believee

2014-03-13 19:28

gee gee

2014-03-13 19:28

This was just, wtf.

2014-03-13 19:28

3 months bootcamp for 3 matches

2014-03-13 19:28

TITAN NUMBER 1!!! oh wait..

2014-03-13 19:28

gg ez

2014-03-13 19:28

youtube.com/watch?v=Bq69yPPoxzk

2014-03-13 19:28

Lurppis: " Titan best team of the World " JAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJA

2014-03-13 19:28

11 replies

This.

2014-03-13 19:29

This.

2014-03-13 19:30

Best team in the world, after NiP, VP and HR. =)

2014-03-13 19:32

and they are :b

2014-03-13 19:32

1 reply

NiP >>>

2014-03-13 19:44

Leave him alone guys, he's a known AD/HR hater, let him do his thing...

2014-03-13 19:48

5 replies

i dont have anyone, 1 tournament, happens :b

2014-03-13 19:50

stupid comment... like always

2014-03-13 20:09

3 replies

Hi Alba! You are my hero!

2014-03-13 20:47

2 replies

2014-03-13 20:56

Hahaha +1

2014-03-13 23:58

TITAN TOP 3 GROUP A ahahahaha

2014-03-13 19:28

wp marik

2014-03-13 19:28

dem upsets..

2014-03-13 19:28

well deserved! HELL HAS BEEN RASIED

2014-03-13 19:28

1 reply

hows that even possible to typo this^ :DDD lold

2014-03-13 19:54

Kucher Dosia Markeloff > titan

2014-03-13 19:28

I feel sad for them, the end was so intense, the come back was almost there :(

2014-03-13 19:28

1 reply

yeah, they must be in a sheety mood at the moment. They do not deserve all that shit pored on them at the moment. this was one of the best games during this tournament, if not best

2014-03-13 20:01

41% of the people who predicted Titan would win just got trolled. (Including me xD)

2014-03-13 19:28

1 reply

Me 2 :P

2014-03-13 19:36

i.imgur.com/f3rRs.gif

2014-03-13 19:28

Called it several times before. Like comment 26 here... hltv.org/news/12172-contest-stats-41-for..

2014-03-13 19:28

7 replies

Wow stop celebrating yourself for a random comment you posted. Jeezus.

2014-03-13 19:30

bo1, but well HR gets owned in the next match

2014-03-13 19:33

2 replies

Maybe, but it won't be a matter of $250k then ;)

2014-03-13 19:35

1 reply

well 1 of my favs out..hope for coL,digni or fnatic do something spectacular atleast.

2014-03-13 19:37

You have a TIME MACHINE GIVE ME LOTTO JACKPOT numbers :D

2014-03-13 19:43

WOW YOU ARE SO AWESOME, SIGN MY TITS PLS!

2014-03-13 20:09

cool, can i shake your hand?

2014-03-13 20:10

GJ HR ! :D But I am a little sad for Titian :/

2014-03-13 19:28

#lurppis U were wrong. SO SAAD

2014-03-13 19:28

3 replies

His predictions are consistently bad. I don't know why people here haven't noticed that. His so-called 'analysis' is consistently sentimental and biased. He tends to have too rigid an idea of what teams he thinks *should* win and *should not* win according to his Counter-Strike world-view. Titan already got beaten soundly on LAN just a month in a half ago, in Dallas. And yet lurppis just dismissed that performance in his article without offering any real reason as to why. Now that performance seems pretty relevant in hindsight, huh. Titan already showed us very recently that they're not invincible, but people just ignored it.

2014-03-13 19:59

2 replies

"Titan already showed us very recently that they're not invincible, but people just ignored it." And HR always showed us very recently that they're vincible, and people dont ignored it. So does lurppis

2014-03-13 20:12

jeesus christ people are always going crazy over lurppis predictions. he has never made a "wrong" prediction, he always predicts the most likely scenario, since predicting upset wins would cause fanboys to go crazy

2014-03-13 20:20

gg ! That was insane ! Best game i have ever seen

2014-03-13 19:29

I'm tuning in 'My Heart Will Go On' by Celine Dion right now. #sad

2014-03-13 19:29

gz nip just won :/

2014-03-13 19:29

YEES , YOU UNDERESTIMATED HR ;) gj boys, feeling proud with 1.6 power ;)

2014-03-13 19:29

im out of words

2014-03-13 19:29

gg ex-cs1.6ers

2014-03-13 19:29

community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/se..

2014-03-13 19:29

VP TOP1 /discuss

2014-03-13 19:29

1 reply

Id love to see VP 1st / HR 2nd / NiP 3rd then /discuss :)

2014-03-13 19:50

GO GO HR! YOU CAN DO THIS!

2014-03-13 19:29

TITAN...IC

2014-03-13 19:29

Titan.dragons

2014-03-13 19:29

WP HR!!!

2014-03-13 19:29

HR be like "we be saving strats yo!" They literally played like a different team today. Every single fucking one of them.

2014-03-13 19:29

easy

2014-03-13 19:29

#titanfalls

2014-03-13 19:29

Titan NBK: we will try to do the same nip did, we will win evry tournament...not 100% something like that, well by dropping out of the tournament from the group stage that aint happen...

2014-03-13 19:29

nice predictions lurppis, oh wait

2014-03-13 19:30

3 replies

on paper, lurppis was 100% right.. paper is paper =)

2014-03-13 19:45

2 replies

meaningless, gotcha!

2014-03-13 19:57

1 reply

where brooklyn at ?

2014-03-13 20:12

"More to follow..." (Just gonna cry alittle bit first)-lurpiss

2014-03-13 19:30

Hellraisers played all three matches well. they deserved.

2014-03-13 19:30

1 reply

2014-03-13 19:52

so NO money for TITAN?

2014-03-13 19:30

2 replies

2000 dorra for 9-16 place.

2014-03-13 19:36

1 reply

its joke okay.

2014-03-13 19:43

Respect for HR. Got loads of shit (deserved) over them for playing so bad, especially since removing public favourite Edward for Kucher. But then being able to bounce back like this, vs arguably the #1-2 team of the world, well played.

2014-03-13 19:30

well played, btw Titan still 2nd or 3st in da world

2014-03-13 19:30

3 replies

3st ? how thirsty are they ?

2014-03-13 19:45

No, I rate them like 10-15 to be perfectly honest. They lost to coL at DH and iBP at ESEA global lan. How could a top team lose so many important matches against NA teams, and now eliminated in group stage? Like someone else said, they're only good against other top teams who they particularly practiced to play against.

2014-03-13 20:58

1 reply

Atleast they never lost to Finnish teams. Ewwwww.. Now THAT would suck. I think they would need therapy afterwards. Think of the embarassment..

2014-03-14 12:59

Titanic says bulibuli

2014-03-13 19:30

#titanfall

2014-03-13 19:30

gg wp hellraisers, you deserved it. go and train Titan, this is not what you want next time.

2014-03-13 19:30

GG HR

2014-03-13 19:30

CPHG 2012 all over agian 9-12th

2014-03-13 19:30

Kucher and actually everyone from HR played really well! Just because of that girl[ who is really bad for casting this ] I swapped to the HR POV even though I'm not speaking russian . They were dedicated and really played it well. Congrats!

2014-03-13 19:30

1 reply

Adren played really bad, actually.

2014-03-13 19:33

Much cri very Hell wow disband doge plox

2014-03-13 19:30

1.6 BICEPS!

2014-03-13 19:30

lol lurppis' prediction is always like the opposite of actual results :D

2014-03-13 19:30

Please,can you stop acting like a fucking dickhead (Sry for my use of words).. But, yeah ofc its not what anyone or titan's em self have seen coming, but every team has there good days and bad days.. Titan lost to a team, who played better than them.. but stop hating on them like they are shit? what about NiP? who lost to fantic big time at Dreamhack? no hate on them?.. so please just stop, they will come back even stronger!! GO TITANS!

2014-03-13 19:30

4 replies

low titans :(

2014-03-13 19:34

At least NiP did make it to the finals.

2014-03-13 19:36

HAHAHA you dont seem to get it! This is Groupstage!

2014-03-13 19:42

NiP blows :D

2014-03-13 20:59

ez :D

2014-03-13 19:31

unexpected

2014-03-13 19:31

finally saucers are in the right place

2014-03-13 19:31

and suddenly no one has bet for Titan n1 in Katowice, no one has bet for Shox top fragger, just 'lmaopeicwinlololtrolololfrenchiesumadlmaoepicwinXXXDDD' forgetting there are 3 french teams and only 3 french in Titan. HLTV logic.

2014-03-13 19:34

enjoy fragbite masters, titan.

2014-03-13 19:32

EMS One Katowice: Group A preview Titan: 1st in group A haha

2014-03-13 19:32

1 reply

HR 3rd in group A lol

2014-03-13 19:48

HellRaisers go official HellRaisers knock Titan out of EMS HellRaisers knock NiP out of EMS HellRaisers win EMS ONE

2014-03-13 19:32

7 replies

not so fast but yes, they did well

2014-03-13 19:34

and than u wake up.

2014-03-13 19:34

2 replies

half of way already done :)

2014-03-13 19:36

1 reply

2014-03-13 19:38

hope

2014-03-13 19:36

Na'Vi 2010 kekeke

2014-03-13 19:38

lol ;)

2014-03-13 19:42

saucers crying now :-(

2014-03-13 19:32

2 replies

Lol, no)

2014-03-13 19:36

delisious sauce tears

2014-03-13 19:44

titan to release csgo division

2014-03-13 19:32

lurrpis need more predictions <3

2014-03-13 19:32

A great effort from titan in the final few rounds. they threw too many on ct, and the anti eco when HR had 4 on B was so hard to watch. The last round though what happend when 2 titan players were wrapping from arch with 20 seconds, and they spent 15 trying to kill a guy in library and both of them died... just smoke/flash him and plant...

2014-03-13 19:33

gz well played

2014-03-13 19:33

It's 2014 and people are still hating on Titan for being ex-sacuers... really? Lol sad

2014-03-13 19:33

NiP must be feeling quite good right now

2014-03-13 19:33

7 replies

not hellraisers bad counters for them

2014-03-13 19:36

6 replies

I agree but only if kucher dosia and marek keep this up they impressed me this tourn seeing how they have been playing these last weeks.

2014-03-13 19:54

5 replies

butt titans are going home gg :P

2014-03-13 19:55

4 replies

ye laugh u sucker :P They played so bad they deserve to go home honestly lets hope cis represents this tourn :)

2014-03-13 20:03

3 replies

navi to rape :D

2014-03-13 20:04

2 replies

lets hope so don't want merican teams to advance

2014-03-13 20:05

1 reply

col? no... ibp yes

2014-03-13 20:06

but Titan TOP1 WORLD... oh wait

2014-03-13 19:33

much .i. for titan

2014-03-13 19:34

EASY wp both, great game :)

2014-03-13 19:34

respect HR

2014-03-13 19:34

1/4 vs. NiP or fnatic and go back at hell

2014-03-13 19:34

AAAAAAAA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2014-03-13 19:35

TitanFall rip

2014-03-13 19:35

Feel really bad for titan...

2014-03-13 19:35

oi60.tinypic.com/ejbtd2.jpg ..... well HR i lost my 2 bets cuz of you :/

2014-03-13 19:35

HR have made me win skins twice. First against NiP, now against Titan. Coincidence? ;) Thank you! :D

2014-03-13 19:36

GJ HR & VP both!!

2014-03-13 19:36

go home france bobs

2014-03-13 19:36

Haha feelin good

2014-03-13 19:37

Bye bye Titans. Overrated team. Why the fuck do the casters call them #1 team? What have they won in the past months? Lost as usual against NiP at the DH (and also lost to coL) and at the ESEA Finals they basically only made it to the final because sgares dropped out of the server in the most important round and in the final they got stomped by iBP. Ahahaha "2014 will be Titans year" they said, and everyone who doubted it got flamed by a hord of fan-boys. I actually like them but their fans are so arrogant that it makes me kind of happy to see them drop out.

2014-03-13 19:39

5 replies

2014 2nd ESEA 1st DH Stockholm HR? but doesnt matter we gonna see a fnatic vs NiP final again and hope fnatic destroy them again xD

2014-03-13 19:42

4 replies

Did I say anything about HR? Nope. 2nd at ESEA. Yes, with only 1 European team attending. And actually they barely made it into the final. They played absolute shit and should have ended 3-4. Before the tournament all the fan-boys were like "lol, too easy for Titans, they will rape everyone". At the most important tournament they lost once again against NiP. Like they did in like 95% of all games against NiP during the past 2 years. No way anyone with a brain would rate them higher than NiP.

2014-03-13 19:49

3 replies

I believe the reason most people called them number one was having placed 1st and beaten NiP consecutive times in late 2013. Had they won DH they would've definetely claimed the number one spot. As we all know, they lost there and ESEA but they won DH invitational (was that the name?). I'm not saying they are/were number 1 as it was a tough choice, but considering late 2013 they had shown better results than most teams. In my opinion they were really good but quite inconsistent and of course you need to be consistent to be considered the best. Anyway, these results only make the scene more interesting. Hope the tournament brings us even better matches than the one we've seen yet.

2014-03-13 19:57

95% xD ok. let it be, but they dont had shox or neither scream in lu. Than lurppis has no brain right? Just check the last 6 months (from 2013 okt) where VG played vs NiP. VG/Titan won 85% of the maps, they lost dh winter only in the semis. Just because of 2 bo1 loss here, doesnt change the rankings imo. I'll agree with u if NiP win this tourney.

2014-03-13 20:00

1 reply

Yes, if you look at the all-time-stats of NiP-vs-VG it really looks that bad for VG/Titans. VG/Titans had like 1-2 months were one could have considered them #1, but that's it. Neither in the the all-time-ranking nor in the recent ranking they are the #1. "Only in the semis". They already struggled in the group-stage and lost to coL.

2014-03-13 20:10

youtube.com/watch?v=-J5PDPtLsuM# I'm laughing straight to the skins with this.

2014-03-13 19:37

Dosia awesome

2014-03-13 19:38

Hi Lurpis ! Where is the best team in the world aka Titan right now ?

2014-03-13 19:38

Insane, was rooting for OT in the end.

2014-03-13 19:39

PR gag Form titanfall^^

2014-03-13 19:39

Hmm xD speedy.sh/E6cV9/14888.jpg

2014-03-13 19:39

Best day in csgo history imo, not just because Titan went home in group stage. The games very really intense, very unprodicteable,and outstanding matches. And I love how 41% though titan gonna win, that gets me that evil joy feeling :)

2014-03-13 19:40

only real men stay in this tourny. whores are out.

2014-03-13 19:40

youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY

2014-03-13 19:41

Titan gaming house for sale

2014-03-13 19:41

titanic ;d xD

2014-03-13 19:42

I was hoping titan was going to win it after that genius molotov strat when eco on 13-15, unlucky.

2014-03-13 19:43

1 reply

I believe Dosia died in dreamhack 2 times in the same spot vs americans

2014-03-13 20:13

i like Titan, but they won against mousesport, then lost against VP and then against HR > win only 1 match in groupstage. Yeah it´s so sad, but stop posting fcking threads everywhere about HR and Titan..

2014-03-13 19:43

............................. :s

2014-03-13 19:43

For all the pain and hatred they've suffered. HR deserve to go to the playoffs. Well played both teams.

2014-03-13 19:43

hahahaha goodbye online noobs.

2014-03-13 19:43

1 reply

"online noobs" DH invitational kthxbye.

2014-03-14 10:21

BOOOOM ! hahahhaha

2014-03-13 19:44

Its ok Titan there will be another 5k tournament soon,just you wait.

2014-03-13 19:44

TITANIC ahahaha loooooool :D

2014-03-13 19:44

And you still underestimate HR!

2014-03-13 19:45

Titan clearly couldnt handle the pressure. They needed to step it up during the group stages and they didnt - simple as that. ....and I'm glad they are out! GG!

2014-03-13 19:45

1 reply

I don't see HR having less preassure - just got a new org, getting so much hate all the time, after a dramatic loss to VP, and after such a start on inferno. May be u r right and this was about who comes over this preassure. But this means being a PRO

2014-03-13 20:08

HellRaisers good but not best! Titanic BEST !Hi Lurpis

2014-03-13 19:45

1 reply

lol

2014-03-13 19:50

FUck yea. As i said, HR will play lights out and did it. Small value on HR, but still i made around couple euros.

2014-03-13 19:46

go drink some coffe at starbuck in airport together with thorin, bye bye

2014-03-13 19:46

titans bashing all top teams online but can't get out of group stage :|

2014-03-13 19:47

41% hmmm

2014-03-13 19:47

How to win vs Titan: Get fucking drunk!

2014-03-13 19:47

Hellraisers raise quickly:)

2014-03-13 19:47

Titan SHAME ON YOU !

2014-03-13 19:47

Can't somebody just make the team of fucking godlike French aimers happen, would be so nice to watch. ScreaM, apEX, shox, kennyS & ex6 for stratcalling.

2014-03-13 19:48

5 replies

Well, since ScreaM And ex6 are from Belgium that would be pretty hard.

2014-03-14 12:22

4 replies

I'm pretty sure they're both Flemmish, meaning they both speak French. Please, before you try to make somebody look stupid, make sure you actually know what you're talking about :]

2014-03-16 16:49

3 replies

Still doesn't make them French.

2014-03-16 16:53

2 replies

You're just trying to be nit-picky, it's cute, but ineffective. No tears SicknO, only dreams now.

2014-03-16 17:35

1 reply

Ok, good to know Im American/Brittish since I speak english.

2014-03-16 18:12

PITTY ABOUT TITAN.... but congratz HR ofc :)

2014-03-13 19:49

That last round doe was a complete fail could have been 15-15

2014-03-13 19:50

i.imgur.com/DyEYdo7.png

2014-03-13 19:50

STANDBY FOR TITANFALL

2014-03-13 19:51

Titanfall! They deserved to lose tbh. They played like noobs, as always :). Is not always luck who save you, but...

2014-03-13 19:51

1 reply

Haters gonna hate

2014-03-13 20:13

rip in pieces

2014-03-13 19:52

that gaming house really paid off for Titan

2014-03-13 19:54

dosia beast

2014-03-13 19:57

Making history happen here ---> static.hltv.org/images/galleries/5944-me..

2014-03-13 19:57

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Dosia raising from Hell :D

2014-03-13 20:18

amazing game!!!!!!!

2014-03-13 19:58

GJ HR!BUT.. We all saw how HR over against NIP in bo3 series at FB masters, then they totally lost it to LDLC. I know that it was online but yet. I want to say that this is really big lose for Titans, but nothing mean for HR.

2014-03-13 20:03

<3 get right means everything always play like noobs so nip are -nooobs or more after losing vs titan

2014-03-13 20:00

hr good game

2014-03-13 20:00

Lurppis and his predictions, sooo "finny"

2014-03-13 20:01

3 replies

why would he predict that Titan would go out in the groupstage?

2014-03-13 20:03

Yeah like you predicted Titan to fall in the groupstage.

2014-03-13 20:03

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I didn't, but 90% of his predictions are false. So i mean it overall, not only his yesterday predictions. Also it was a joke, now i see a shitty one.

2014-03-13 20:42

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA

2014-03-13 20:02

they were saving strats like esea. oh wait......

2014-03-13 20:02

HAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA TITANFALL =D

2014-03-13 20:02

so so unlucky Titan gg both teams

2014-03-13 20:02

You have to give HR even more credits than anyone else taking into consideration the fact how much crap there was put on them by childish kids saying they're bad ect and still they managed to paly all of their 3 today's matches great overcoming all of that pressure and dirt by the community and came out on top! Props to HR! g1 Its obviously not over yet and anything can happen, but the main thing for today to come out of the group has at least been successfully accomplished! Congratz!

2014-03-13 20:02

Bo1 is shit and the whole production, like half of the time without x-ray, where are we in 2005? I don't really care what happens next, let it be CM vs Hellraisers in the final...

2014-03-13 20:03

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YOU MAD TITAN LOST AGAINST TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS HAHA

2014-03-13 20:11

2 replies

We will see if two different US teams will make it into the play-offs :P

2014-03-13 20:39

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To bad I am a NiP fan, could care less about murica

2014-03-13 23:58

where are all the people whining dosia and markeloff suck now ? :D

2014-03-13 20:05

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Skineloff they said. xD Beat Titan with a StatTrak Crimson Web Bayonet MW anyway.

2014-03-13 20:10

dosia beast ! wp

2014-03-13 20:05

ida loved to see an american team stomp on them. french = poons

2014-03-13 20:06

lurppis jinx it again.. lol

2014-03-13 20:07

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the curse of lurppis is hereby declared a real thing.

2014-03-13 20:09

Top 1 they say...

2014-03-13 20:07

It is funny how AdreN is not playing as well without 100 ping and how much better Dosia is at LAN

2014-03-13 20:08

Fuck.. Why so much hate against one of the best teams after one bad day. gg HR, really GG

2014-03-13 20:10

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Because its a HELL of a big day today, but yes, I agree with you, its not fair and not right to say Titans are bad and all that as they showed their usual GREAT game, its just HR are jsut as good as well and only little things decided the winner of the HISTORICAL match! gl Titans in the future <3

2014-03-13 20:17

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2014-03-13 20:34

this

2014-03-13 20:23

NBK's fault. He should have played better. He can only play against NIP.

2014-03-13 20:13

and with this i m out from 2 out of 3 'guess' contests. CRAP!

2014-03-13 20:15

gjgjgj raise your hells

2014-03-13 20:15

markeloff mvp

2014-03-13 20:17

titan's still best for me, that lost game will do they better!

2014-03-13 20:19

the big favorite is out...... mousesports

2014-03-13 20:20

the feels :( bildr.no/view/ZWNvZ2Jl

2014-03-13 20:20

H@H@H@H@H@H

2014-03-13 20:26

1.6 > source

2014-03-13 20:28

youtube.com/watch?v=DfOCUiqmmbY&hd=1

2014-03-13 20:29

titan onlinerz

2014-03-13 20:29

yea they had 2 bad games but titan is still top3 france!

2014-03-13 20:30

show some respect.

2014-03-13 20:31

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+1 dosia markeloff and entire team are not bad players, they played really good and this is not just result of luck or bad play by titan only

2014-03-14 08:14

Such a shame. Would have loved to see them play against NiP. Titan would have won that match 9 out of 10 games. GG HellRaisers

2014-03-13 20:31

NBK has been slacking a lot recently, hopefully he can find his top form again... otherwise its gonna be rough for titan fans

2014-03-13 20:32

gj guys

2014-03-13 20:40

I guess they are onliners! How bad!

2014-03-13 20:47

Dosia beast

2014-03-13 20:47

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+100500

2014-03-13 21:07

I can`t believe it.. 3 months for nothing?

2014-03-13 20:49

Fuck, that means VP has to be able to beat NiP. I don't want NiP to win.

2014-03-13 20:53

Titan top 20 team

2014-03-13 21:04

The tournament would be so much better if 1/2 of the group advance into the winner bracket and 3/4 into the lower bracket.

2014-03-13 21:04

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agreed

2014-03-13 21:58

Which items u guys lose ? :D

2014-03-13 21:08

Titan saving strats for SLTV

2014-03-13 21:17

Finally a decent result from HellRaisers

2014-03-13 21:18

youtube.com/watch?v=DNyKDI9pn0Q HUEHUEHUEHUE ^_^

2014-03-13 21:22

I only wonder who's gonna be the mK now.. :D

2014-03-13 21:32

fnatic win ems and officially become top1?

2014-03-13 21:37

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Nope, VP win

2014-03-14 13:02

;o oh titan.. :/

2014-03-13 22:00

HAHAHHAHAHA:D So much hype for nothing :D New orga, financial support, gaminghouse: all for nothing...

2014-03-13 22:04

amazing match

2014-03-13 22:08

hahaha

2014-03-13 22:21

the CS Community is fkn retarded

2014-03-13 22:34

2 replies

fu nerd

2014-03-13 22:46

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2014-03-14 13:02

I just don't understand how such a big tournament groupestages are played on bo1's fucking bullshit

2014-03-13 23:19

3 replies

don't cry :)

2014-03-13 23:23

if it was bo3, we would be still on the match between Titan and Mouz.

2014-03-14 00:38

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HAHAHAHA

2014-03-14 08:44

Lurppis Curse! xD

2014-03-13 23:30

I don't understand. Pimp the sauce said that Titan were the best team in the world. Saucers and their dreamsauce :D

2014-03-14 00:14

Maybe Titan should watch other teams play and learn something about them instead of only focusing on learning how NiP play in order to anti-strat them.

2014-03-14 00:25

markeloff meeting titans in group stages youtube.com/watch?v=K_oAvdvQW18

2014-03-14 01:03

Titan still top 1 jk, never were top 1.

2014-03-14 02:14

I'm glad Titan lost. Finally someone showed them their place.

2014-03-14 05:41

kucher best. youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg6ZKK8xUc DAAA ! SUKKAA DAAA !!!!!11111

2014-03-14 05:42

OOOh My GOD... WATAFAK IS GOING ON?

2014-03-14 06:19

# TITAN TOP1. OK.

2014-03-14 06:39

nip killer out! wat

2014-03-14 08:38

HELLRAISER BEAT NIP, NOW TITAN, for all of you who underestimated them, now you've learned something never just a team by a stupid online tournament, LAN is when it matter, #HELLRAISERS XD #1 HELLRAISERS, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN SINCE AD!

2014-03-14 08:41

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Judge* I thought you would have learned that since you're from USA.

2014-03-14 13:00