DreamHack could expand map pool

3-6-2014 23:17

DreamHack has announced that it will look into the possibility of expanding its CS:GO map pool after the upcoming Summer event.

With less than two weeks to go before DreamHack Summer 2014 kicks off, the organisers of the Swedish event have confirmed that they will keep their traditional five-map pool for the CS:GO tournament.

For future tournaments, however, DreamHack is weighing up the possibility of expanding the map pool to seven maps, most likely with the inclusion of de_cache and de_season, both of which are already used in ESEA, for example.

de_tuscan could also be a possibility, though it has been almost two months since we last heard from the map's creator, Colin "Brute" Volrath.

The map pool for DH Summer looks as follows:

de_dust2
de_nuke
de_train
de_mirage
de_inferno

2014-06-04 00:18

2 replies

Ye, mby toscan cache & forge. :D

2014-06-04 00:44

if dhs will add this two map, VP is going to win whole tournament so easy. They are stronger on this two even more than on de_mirage.

2014-06-04 17:39

-train +cache Tuscan will be done for DHS 2016.

2014-06-04 00:18

25 replies

+cache +season / tuscan leave train in map pool

2014-06-04 00:21

14 replies

Even Cbble is better than Train is right now.

2014-06-04 00:23

de_train is the best map in map pool in term of spectaculary level. Only french hate this map. It could be better, but i prefer that than 100xInferno in one tournament... Just learn how to play on train.

2014-06-04 00:26

12 replies

I don't have to. The current iteration of Train is horrifying, ask anybody decent and they'll agree.

2014-06-04 00:27

8 replies

It's not the 1.6 train, obviously, but a match on train is more pleasant to watch, for me, than a match on inferno or d2. Long distances, small corridors, open field in A, with all the stuff u want upper the roof. Close field in B, to make possible a one man standing there in CT (but not safely), with a possibility to go fast beatween two sites (like on nuke: little ladder and Z). Honestly, I think this map is too underrated by a lot of people (especially french teams...), and deserved to be watch when two good teams plays on it. VP are the kings of this map, and it's impressive to watch.

2014-06-04 00:42

4 replies

The problem is of its huge CT advantage and if you play Ts first half, you have 30% chance of winning the rest of the half, depending on how you perform on T side and how the enemy holds sites. Inferno is more common cause it's very balanced, and you can make a comeback on second half if you're losing. Inferno is kinda interesting to watch, since most of the teams are max. focused on that map and you can learn a lot of smokes, flashes, wallbangs etc. But like you said, inferno on every match sucks balls.

2014-06-04 00:56

2 replies

Just look at the overview of inferno map: it's a crater for T side. If CT's take the avantage with an agression, it's lost for T's. Honestly, Valve got a good point with the new A point on train. it's possible to plant easily in eco round, to compense the CT map style (better than on nuke with vents). It's more interresting than the _ve train. To concluded, I think it's very important to have different kinds of map. I'm sorry but dust2, mirage, cache and season (and tuscan) are quite the same style with different degrees of oppening. Nuke and Train (and crown maybe one day?) refresh this map pool with different geography.

2014-06-04 02:09

1 reply

Agreed. However, I still feel train could be improved by making it a little less claustrophobic.

2014-06-04 04:48

Swedish teams has always been great on train

2014-06-04 01:55

if you think cbble is better than train right now you're nuts funny you say to ask 'anybody decent'; you're obviously not

2014-06-04 00:56

2 replies

I never claimed I was decent. Cbble being better than Train was an exaggaration.

2014-06-04 01:20

hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=602207#r549..

2014-06-04 12:32

train in csgo is the biggest shit map i've ever seen.

2014-06-04 01:17

de_train = Terro smoke A site and get a easy plant without even killing anyboody and then CT's Win the round with 5-man retake. T's buy again cuz of plant and same strat again. GG

2014-06-04 08:38

Train csgo is the worst ever ! Its random + its only @ smoke frag smoke smoke . Not spectacular and bad in this version . 1.6 was the best css was a bit same but csgo sux too much . I hope for cache or tuscan return . And even i would like to see cbblestone the new valve cbble seems to be less ct and its very beautiful !

2014-06-06 02:07

You mean "Tuscan will be done for DHS. Which year, still to be revealed."

2014-06-04 00:21

6 replies

I heard it'll be done in time for ESEA Season 12.

2014-06-04 00:22

5 replies

Don't start with shit like this, people have heard too much about exact dates and Brute has failed a lot of the time but idc... he'll do it eventually.

2014-06-04 00:34

Dude, ESEA Season 16 is going to an end, only finals remain. And there are news about S17 on front page at HLTV. Looking at this point on how "fast" tuscan is being remaped for CSGO, we might not see it at all.

2014-06-04 00:41

3 replies

he's being sarcastic since brute has given several different release dates that have all come and gone

2014-06-04 02:22

1 reply

its like a standard doomsday-cult :D

2014-06-04 16:00

I got scared, when I for the first time in CS:GO played de_toscan on ESL 2-3 days ago..

2014-06-04 11:51

tuscan will most likely never be done because the earth wont exist

2014-06-04 00:24

1 reply

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJJ love u <3

2014-06-04 04:10

JAJAJAJAJAJ TRÚ STORI BROTER . +tuscan @ dhs 2016

2014-06-04 04:00

2014-06-04 00:18

2014-06-04 00:20

Cmon Brute, we all need Tuscan!

2014-06-04 00:20

1 reply

This Brute is a joke! The map is 2 years over its schedule, and Toscan was done in few months close to perfection. Why wait unreliable dude to finish off something that doesnt need to be finished?

2014-06-04 14:51

cache pls!

2014-06-04 00:20

cache pls ;_;

2014-06-04 00:20

More maps More fun

2014-06-04 00:21

train is such a bad map to play/watch, the _Ve or the old one are far better versions

2014-06-04 00:23

cache and tuscan would be optimal!

2014-06-04 00:24

Unexpected.

2014-06-04 00:24

tuscan will never be done, rip future

2014-06-04 00:27

go cache, season, tuscan and... crown ? cbble ? fy_poolday ?

2014-06-04 00:32

1 reply

hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=602207#r549..

2014-06-04 12:32

Fucking finally, cache is so good why has it taken this long? And ofc replace train with _ve and everything will be almost perfect.

2014-06-04 00:35

6 replies

train_ve is SUPER CT OP

2014-06-04 00:36

5 replies

Didn't seem that way when it was in the esea pool...

2014-06-04 00:39

4 replies

Semphis and hiko both don't like train_ve. play.esea.net/index.php?s=poll&d=comment.. Check out post #2, #59, #58

2014-06-04 01:32

3 replies

A complete mystery that anyone considers valve's train to be better than _ve. _ve might not be perfect, but still miles ahead

2014-06-04 04:20

1 reply

exactly, it's far from being perfect but it's surely better than the mm edition.

2014-06-06 02:52

I mean #2, #59 and #81

2014-06-04 11:16

tuscan cache and season pls :D

2014-06-04 00:36

Random english question: "de_tuscan could also be a possibility, though it has been almost two months since we last heard from the map's creator, Colin "Brute" Volrath." Isn't "although" more fitting? Just asking because to me it sounds weird.

2014-06-04 00:38

18 replies

"Though" in this sense is typical english talk, not sure if it's correct or not, but 90% of english people would say "though" in this sense :)

2014-06-04 00:41

14 replies

I always thought (for no apparent reason) "although" suits better in the beginning of a sentence.

2014-06-04 00:43

13 replies

You are right, "although" is more suiting in this case, especially as this is an international site where many people would have been taught that "although" is the word used when giving an opposing statement. But as beserker said, it's just a formal and informal way of saying it.

2014-06-04 00:46

12 replies

This is impressive for hltv. All three of you involved in this discussion just earned a lot of respect from me.

2014-06-04 01:24

11 replies

No trolling or retatdness? On hltv? :o

2014-06-04 02:02

2 replies

BKLARGH y can't u euros use d engrish better omhz rabble rabble rabble

2014-06-04 02:15

1 reply

"^This", the guy asking the question, is not euro though :/ rabble rabble murican rabble

2014-06-04 14:41

Wow, that sounded pretty arrogant. Why do you think we care if some random guy has rewarded us his respect. C'mon man, if honestly don't notice all the other decent people on this forum then that problem lies with you.

2014-06-04 02:15

7 replies

And you took a compliment for something bad. You really can't say that most of the match comments are written in insulting and pointless ways. Judging from the other comments we have attracted I don't think I need to point you in a specific direction.

2014-06-04 08:11

6 replies

There are always the few comments from stupid kids in each thread, but most comments are mature. Every day there are several threads asking about fps/config/command problems and they are always quickly answered by helpful people, but most of the time it goes unnoticed as there is some troll thread designed purely to make people mad and rake in the abusive replies. Don't pay so much attention to the retards on this site and you'll start to notice the good people. You shouldn't have to reward someone for doing something helpful; this is as it should be.

2014-06-04 08:18

5 replies

You shouldn't have to no. Saying you respect the fact that someone helped without insulting isn't a reward. It's common decency. 99% of threads here are in barely understandable English and trolling. It's a shame since it would be interesting to read more valuable comments. I think the amount of shit comments is influxed by the outdated UI on this Webpage.

2014-06-04 08:23

4 replies

I'd say that less than half the threads are pointless troll threads, obviously this goes up a lot after a big match or tournament. And hltv have also mentioned a points system they are working on (or maybe just planning atm) that they hope will reduce number of sad trolls even more.

2014-06-04 08:29

you awarded three ppl with your respect, where is the 3rd (yes i doublechecked :D)?

2014-06-04 16:06

2 replies

^This, berserker and grund. Berserker is just under my comment #37

2014-06-04 16:26

1 reply

you squeezed in and made me think you made yourself look like a retard, well played :D

2014-06-04 16:34

Both work, although is more formal I guess but it doesn't really matter as long as it's valid

2014-06-04 00:43

1 reply

Thanks, you both. #39

2014-06-04 00:44

though is completely fine

2014-06-04 14:52

This is great news, and I am happy about this.

2014-06-04 00:40

1 reply

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2014-06-04 12:32

+ aztec

2014-06-04 00:42

1 reply

That would be a nice addition...

2014-06-04 20:06

people hate maps that pro's dont play. pro's dont play maps unless they are forced to. everyone agrees we need new maps. why is this even a debate

2014-06-04 00:43

1 reply

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2014-06-04 12:32

yo, lez get de_tuscan into tournaments' map pool... it's about time! cmmon plz!

2014-06-04 00:46

add season, virtus pro will be glad :D

2014-06-04 00:53

Cache <3

2014-06-04 01:04

de_contra, please.

2014-06-04 01:05

1 reply

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2014-06-04 12:33

Nice, love cache and season. We need more maps to be played, kinda boring to only see inferno + d2.

2014-06-04 01:14

If they add season, Virtus Pro will be really pleased about this decision.

2014-06-04 01:23

cache is one of the best maps out there. It should be in the map pool.

2014-06-04 01:35

+ de_forge de_train_ve de_tuscan de_cache

2014-06-04 01:46

1 reply

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2014-06-04 12:33

why no season and cache lol..

2014-06-04 01:52

cache is ok but fuck season man and fuck tuscan too this guy didn't do shit after two years. #release #2030

2014-06-04 02:22

-inferno +militia

2014-06-04 02:24

2014-06-04 02:57

cs_sauna

2014-06-04 03:06

+cache +season they cant add train_ve/toscan/mill cuz the teams didnt they didn't prepare for it

2014-06-04 03:10

I'm seriously wondering whats the fucking problem with getting de_tuscan in the game. Colin "Brute" Volrath, get your shit together pal.

2014-06-04 03:19

+cache +tuscan

2014-06-04 03:41

no fucking season please

2014-06-04 03:43

We need some more good competitive maps. Now if only the guy making tuscan could get his head out of his ass that would be a start. Also, I just can't play train, can't see shit on that map. Haven't tried some of the new maps that came out like de_crown, is it any good for competitive play?

2014-06-04 04:28

expand prizepool pls

2014-06-04 06:34

Dont get to hyped guys! Its after this event, and we are "opening up", not adding. Nothing confirmed, but we have not closed the door.

2014-06-04 07:20

1 reply

I don't understand why there aren't 7maps since last year? Cache and season are long enough around...

2014-06-04 13:20

-season bullshit map +awp lego aim map

2014-06-04 07:22

the best solution for future tournaments is to overhaul the whole tournament map pool and rules. a) tournaments should be more days than a weekend like 4-5 days. So that teams dont have to wait for long hours due to possible delays b) there should be bo3 double elimination system from groupstage and double bo3 final with the team coming from the upper bracket having 1 bo3 advantage. this way we will be sure that 99% of the times the best team wins c) valve needs really to look into train. As it stands right now train is horseshit and its a common knowledge across the community d) 7 map pool with the addition of cache and season or the future addition of tuscan in the place of one of these maps

2014-06-04 08:17

needs cache tuscan season also remake train and remake inferno, both too boring to watch oh and while youre at it make rename mirage_ce to de_mirage

2014-06-04 09:28

we really need changes on de_train, add tuscan and cache on every tournament ;/

2014-06-04 09:35

How about something diffrent, a map with hostages, like Italy or Office that would be fun to watch.

2014-06-04 09:58

+ that calr_mill map... looks boss.

2014-06-04 10:02

-season +tuscan

2014-06-04 10:06

-season +aim_ map

2014-06-04 11:18

+++++++ hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=602207#r549..

2014-06-04 12:31

+tuscan +cache #hope

2014-06-04 13:21

-train +train_ve

2014-06-04 14:00

Do it!

2014-06-04 14:09

tbh I don't get why some of you complain so much about train. Imo it could be a little bit changed but it's 100% more balanced than it was in 1.6 :) FIX inferno :( and add cache at least...

2014-06-04 14:39

-cache +tuscan dust2 inferno train mirage nuke season tuscan

2014-06-04 14:57

Man if people would just try new maps like overpass or cbble it would be so much more entertaining watching the matches.

2014-06-04 16:16

1 reply

There's nothing to try, cbble is awful. Maybe overpass, but never cbble.

2014-06-04 16:24

I'm for adding De_Tuscan!

2014-06-04 17:14

Not de_season please...

2014-06-04 18:08

i'm all for cache, but please no season..

2014-06-04 18:50

DreamHack should expand map pool

2014-06-04 19:07

Virtus.pro win Dreamhack. CONFIRMED .

2014-06-04 19:09

Unexpected.

2014-06-04 19:19

Tuscan?!?!?!? Soon...

2014-06-04 20:08

1 reply

We need more info please!!! And why were you using the nickname "spanglertuscan"(or something like that) the other day in CEVO finals MJ vs IBP??==== =?==?=??=?====?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

2014-06-06 03:01