EnVyUs vs. Cloud9 statistical preview

With EnVyUs getting a second shot at Cloud9 tomorrow to decide who advances to the semi-finals, we take a look at the upcoming ESL ESEA quarter-final.

The two quarter-finalists - or group A elimination round teams - have played against each other a number of times in the past, but actually only on six maps with these rosters.

In the six matches the BoysInBlue hold a 4-2 record, having won two best-of-three series at different Gfinity events, and lost the group stage opener at ESL ESEA Pro League Season 1 Finals.


A lot relies on Skadoodle tomorrow 

In the game on de_train last week EnVy had a sizeable lead before collapsing like a house of cards as Tyler "⁠Skadoodle⁠" Latham went to town, eventually losing in overtime.

Today the game wasn't as dramatic - though the French started halves up 6-0, and 5-0, respectively - but Cloud9 managed to escape with a 16-13 win, with another comeback.

Date Team Score Team Map Event
Jul 2 France EnVyUs 13-16 United States Cloud9 de_cache ESL ESEA Finals
Jun 26 France EnVyUs 16-12 United States Cloud9 de_cache Gfinity Summer I
Jun 26 France EnVyUs 16-2 United States Cloud9 de_inferno Gfinity Summer I
Jun 26 France EnVyUs 16-19 United States Cloud9 de_train Gfinity Summer I
May 16 France EnVyUs 16-10 United States Cloud9 de_dust2 Gfinity Spring II
May 16 France EnVyUs 16-5 United States Cloud9 de_cache Gfinity Spring II
           
Average France EnVyUs 15.5-9.2 United States Cloud9    

These two rosters have faced each other on six maps

Though EnVy has a 15.5 to 9.2 advantage in average score over the six maps, that shrinks a lot - to 15.3 over 12.0 - if we discard the two blowouts. Still, a clear edge.

Looking at maps, the teams are tied tied 1-1 on de_cache in the last week - with the first match likely not very relevant - and it seems all but guaranteed to be featured tomorrow.

In the last two series we have veto data for, EnVy have removed de_overpass each time, with Cloud9 opting to get rid of de_cobblestone twice - vetoes we should expect tomorrow as well.

Wins (vetoes) France EnVyUs United States Cloud9
de_cache 2 (-) 1 (-)
de_cobblestone - (-) - (2)
de_dust2 1 (1) - (1)
de_inferno 1 (-) - (1)
de_mirage - (1) - (1)
de_overpass - (2) - (-)
de_train - (1) 1 (-)
Total 4 2

Both teams adjusted after losses, vetoing different maps

For their sake I hope Sean "⁠seang@res⁠" Gares will remove de_inferno tomorrow, and EnVy should then get rid of de_mirage, giving us a series on de_cache, de_dust2, and de_train.

Out of those maps Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt's team is clearly favored on de_dust2, with the other two toss-ups. Not an ideal situation for Cloud9, who had to overcome large deficits to gain their earlier wins, but not hopeless, either.

Let's then take a look at individual player performances across the six map sample size featuring these two lineups' head-to-head matches, which were listed above.

Player statistics in all of their six maps

With EnVy having won more maps - including 16-2 and 16-5 wins, leading to a fairly notable 15.5-9.2 average score advantage - obviously the statistics also favor the French.

Vincent "⁠Happy⁠" Schopenhauer has been the best player in the series, followed by NBK-, and then Cloud9's two best players, Skadoodle and Mike "⁠shroud⁠" Grzesiek.

Cloud9's two weakest players have been complete non-factors so far, but Ryan "⁠freakazoid⁠" Abadir was better today, and seang@res's calls made the difference.

Let's then move onto the four maps EnVyUs won, in order to see who contributed the most in their wins - in the maps that actually mattered - and who failed to perform on Cloud9.

Player statistics in the four maps EnVyUs won

As you can see, EnVyUs's players kept the same hierarchy - with similar differentials as well - with everyone's ratings simply being boosted by the fact they were winning more rounds.

On the other hand, shroud was the only player on Cloud9 whose rating resembled average - infact, it was better somehow - while the rest all struggled mightily.

In Cloud9's wins - which there were only two, leading to a questionably small sample size - Skadoodle was an absolute monster, with Jordan "⁠n0thing⁠" Gilbert gaining the number two spot.

Player statistics in the two maps Cloud9 won

Somehow shroud was actually less of a factor in their wins, suggesting he hasn't played that large of a role there, instead getting frags not translating to round wins in losses.

On the other hand, three of EnVy's players had notably worse ratings, with Happy no longer being the team's leading scorer in their losses the most important trend.

To derive more information out of how these ten players performed in their respective teams' wins versus losses, we have put together a table below listing ratings in both, as well as the differentials.

Player Wins Losses Differential
United States Tyler "⁠Skadoodle⁠" Latham 1.39 0.87 +0.52
France Vincent "⁠Happy⁠" Schopenhauer 1.47 0.98 +0.49
United States Ryan "⁠freakazoid⁠" Abadir 0.72 0.43 +0.29
United States Jordan "⁠n0thing⁠" Gilbert 1.09 0.81 +0.28
France Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt 1.29 1.06 +0.23
France Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon 1.14 0.91 +0.23
France Edouard "⁠SmithZz⁠" Dubourdeaux 1.12 0.92 +0.20
United States Sean "⁠seang@res⁠" Gares 0.76 0.58 +0.18
France Fabien "⁠kioShiMa⁠" Fiey 1.02 0.92 +0.10
Canada Mike "⁠shroud⁠" Grzesiek 1.02 1.11 -0.09
Average 1.39 0.87 +0.24

Differentials in HLTV.org rating between wins and losses

A quick glance shows astronomical jumps in the ratings of Skadoodle and Happy - arguably the most important players in each team, and in the entire series.

shroud has - as noted before - been mostly a non-factor, having been better in losses than wins, and kioShiMa's effect in wins has also been fairly small at +0.10.

Other players's rating differential is roughly the mean between wins and losses - which is natural considering you tend to win a lot more rounds when you win, leading to easier kills.

In today's game the key was actually Cloud9's preparation. Most of the credit goes to in-game leader seang@res, who read EnVyUs like an open book, seemingly knowing all calls in advance.


A loss would mean only the second early elimination in EnVy's history 

Assuming Cloud9 prepared for other maps as well, they'll keep their edge in that department. However, they also got a strong performance out of n0thing today. 

EnVy remain favorites tomorrow - the best-of-three format adding to their advantage - and it would be an upset if Cloud9 won. However, it is entirely possible, as seen today.

The French have now lost five out of seven first maps of the day in three recent events, and Cloud9 likely must win the first opener again tomorrow to overcome nV.

For EnVy a loss would mean not making semi-finals for only the second time in the team's history. For Cloud9, it would be their first. One hopes not to lose, another hopes to win.

Follow HLTV.org's @lurppis_ on Twitter.

United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
85
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
686
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
210
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.60
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
686
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
542
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
622
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.65
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
205
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
206
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.67
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
143
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
499
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
n1 job
2015-07-02 23:19
0
4 replies
#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World whoneedstano
Go go cloud9! Frenchies never learn
2015-07-03 06:17
0
2 replies
#69
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France TheHLX
NT Abadir
2015-07-03 09:25
0
1 reply
NT baguette
2015-07-03 18:45
0
#88
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway teeatiz
lurppis, I arent think that you has got brain. Stupidest kid EU - such fanboy.
2015-07-03 12:59
0
#2
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland YoYoMa
Skadoodle and Shroud show
2015-07-02 23:18
0
#4
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Germany eXfckn0
cool
2015-07-02 23:18
0
#5
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France YLQK
damn
2015-07-02 23:19
0
#6
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Sweden DIOdorant
NA OUT! FULL EU FINAL INC! :D
2015-07-02 23:20
0
14 replies
#10
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada Spacepickle
probably... why caps though?
2015-07-02 23:20
0
13 replies
#15
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Sweden DIOdorant
accidentally had it on. Sometimes I press caps when Im supposed to press a because the keys are somewhat close to eachother ;)
2015-07-02 23:24
0
12 replies
#25
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Albania trisohunterino
sure but the ! and :D are written correct while capslock accidently being switched on? sure m8
2015-07-02 23:31
0
11 replies
#27
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Sweden DIOdorant
u know you need to hold shift to do both of those right? So I dont know what we are arguing about.
2015-07-02 23:35
0
3 replies
#29
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Albania trisohunterino
U STOOPID? this means u did the "!" and ":D" without shift? because if u would jave used shift it would look different
2015-07-02 23:38
0
2 replies
#97
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark UnknownFME
Dude. The keyboards are different for every country... Whenever my keyboard goes to American I get all confused when I want to do punctuations and such because its layout is different.
2015-07-03 15:10
0
1 reply
#100
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Albania trisohunterino
yeah u are right dude
2015-07-03 17:11
0
#28
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Netherlands xdanny
hehehehe u busted him.
2015-07-02 23:36
0
#38
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark HALLU
caps lock doesn't work on other keys than just normal letterd derrppppp idiot murican
2015-07-02 23:52
0
5 replies
#39
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Sweden DIOdorant
thanks man
2015-07-02 23:58
0
#68
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany chipsyy
Since when?
2015-07-03 09:16
0
1 reply
#99
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Albania trisohunterino
different keyboards
2015-07-03 17:10
0
#71
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Autismal
Dumbass. Turn on caps lock and type :D, ends up being :d. So it being an accident is obviously bs.
2015-07-03 09:43
0
1 reply
#82
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World fatjacks
BUSTED
2015-07-03 12:03
0
#7
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany roflpantoffel
boring semi finals zzz
2015-07-02 23:20
0
#8
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland eStergo
freakazoid stronk
2015-07-02 23:20
0
#9
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Askam
As its a bo1 (what a shame) everything's possible, both teams have a chance to win
2015-07-02 23:20
0
3 replies
#16
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Costa Rica Gomezio
Nope, the final elimination games in each group are bo3.
2015-07-02 23:24
0
#26
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Albania trisohunterino
read the article baguette
2015-07-02 23:32
0
#73
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France NickyXander
+1
2015-07-03 10:06
0
#11
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States T3HK4T
9.8% HS for skadoodle on wins awp op #9 its a bo3
2015-07-02 23:21
0
7 replies
#18
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Askam
my bad, thought bo1 cuz of qualifer stage
2015-07-02 23:25
0
#36
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States LupinMay
awp op? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
2015-07-02 23:49
0
3 replies
#40
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States T3HK4T
jesus you thought i was serious? thats funnier than if i was serious
2015-07-03 00:01
0
2 replies
#43
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States LupinMay
idk my mind is all fucking stones and bricks dude.
2015-07-03 00:03
0
1 reply
#76
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Afghanistan Lesbianham
I used to have a dog that ate bricks, but even he never tried to fuck them
2015-07-03 10:47
0
#52
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Joeleee
I hadn't noticed that, but it's actually really interesting. It probably indicates that when C9 can get an AWP into Ska's hands it's a different game. Tells me that getting him the big green should be priority number one.
2015-07-03 02:18
0
1 reply
#77
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Afghanistan Lesbianham
I can only think of navi and c9 who have this dynamic where awp changes everything. KennyS is also the best rifler in Titan, same goes for s1mple, fnatic don't need jw awping etc. If you watch NaVi they regularly give Guardian an awp at the cost of armour/rifle for themselves. Usually seized does this. Will c9 do it too?
2015-07-03 10:52
0
#12
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France SPENCERRR
freakazoid EXPOSED
2015-07-02 23:22
0
#13
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Costa Rica Gomezio
65-128 never forget [*]
2015-07-02 23:23
0
#14
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium G2_Ex6TenZ_
Is this another oddsway?
2015-07-02 23:24
0
#17
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lebanon Lagger[]
omfg freak
2015-07-02 23:24
0
#19
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden ZappaS
Damn, good job on this.
2015-07-02 23:26
0
65-128 lmao. freak needs to lift weights less and lift the mouse more
2015-07-02 23:27
0
1 reply
#44
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World ch111
rofl well said
2015-07-03 00:27
0
#21
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shroud | 
World AngelShinta
will be a hard match..but still hope c9 wins
2015-07-02 23:27
0
#22
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
one small interesting tidbit which Tomi mentions is shroud's statistics point out that he does better on rounds that are lost, but which totally makes sense if you consider his playstyle if the whole team get wiped, shroud probably feels at ease moving around as last man alive and mowing 2-3 people down, but in actual set-ups it's probably less his natural state of play
2015-07-02 23:28
0
5 replies
#53
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World savor
So that means hes really good with impactless kills. Such a statpadder, IMO.
2015-07-03 03:04
0
I have seen this kind of pattern in some players... If they will left alone, they will play better or clutch the round on his own way. When the team members are alive, at that time they got invaded with others ideas. So, they would not do 100% what they want to do.
2015-07-03 04:53
0
3 replies
#62
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
basically, but there are a lot of reasons for this kind of play, be they personal or cultural. I certainly remember finding it easier to think and have a clear head when I would scrim with my low tier friends in 1.6 if some of them were dead and I have free space to navigate and get frags haha!
2015-07-03 05:55
0
1 reply
Shroud and n0thing struggle to find their roles in C9. It's obvious from comms and watching them. Freak knows what he's doing (he struggles to do it sometimes). Sgares will never be a top fragger but he's a good mind. Skadoodle has a clear role. n0thing sometimes lurks but then sometimes spazzes out and just gets killed. Shroud is usually the f0rest role but he doesn't have the synergy with his teammates. For some reason he always struggles with the timing on pushes and he's not as strong a clutcher as his fragging ability would indicate.
2015-07-03 08:48
0
#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States kobooold
100% true. I've always been better in mid-late round, I fucking blow at fast rushes/yolofragging
2015-07-03 10:14
0
#23
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada eoNsGOD
freakazoid will be an important factor, if he performs good they will win.
2015-07-02 23:29
0
Loving these stats lol
2015-07-02 23:29
0
#30
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Mexico Mezuren
ayy lmao lurrpis doing preview his fucking predictions were correct in 1 out of 8 spots, he predicted LUMINOSITY xDDDDDD to close group A. my father would do that.
2015-07-02 23:39
0
3 replies
#65
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States joN-dA-k1nG
Pretty sure he predicted LG to get 4th in group A, which they did.
2015-07-03 07:18
0
#79
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
World madman112
So you predicted CLG winning Fnatic, c9 winning nV and Keyd winning TSM?
2015-07-03 11:00
0
1 reply
#90
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
Yeah, that was easy m8
2015-07-03 13:44
0
#32
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World ssovic
strong -63. gl
2015-07-02 23:44
0
#33
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States lnflnlty
it's really annoying seeing how often shroud pulls out his knife and just starts trying to bunny hop for no reason
2015-07-02 23:45
0
1 reply
#60
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
United States ROCKY_JAYYY
Yeah he picks up so many bad habits from streaming and pugging so much...
2015-07-03 05:01
0
#34
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
AZK | 
United States Dood
So basically Skadoodle and Shroud need to carry to win.
2015-07-02 23:46
0
1 reply
#61
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
United States ROCKY_JAYYY
Actually if you read it right it says "Somehow Grzesiek was actually less of a factor in their wins"
2015-07-03 05:04
0
3v5 rip
2015-07-02 23:47
0
#37
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States LupinMay
Cloud 9 still getting blown out on Inferno? LOL go figure. Will they ever learn to fear Inferno like the plague?
2015-07-02 23:50
0
#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
coldzera | 
Brazil saotequi
LOL nice stats FREAKAZOID
2015-07-03 00:02
0
#45
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America DaRealMVPGOAT
I really hope they ban inferno tomorrow, then c9 has a chance.
2015-07-03 00:38
0
#46
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Burnside
God damnit Freakazoid...
2015-07-03 00:39
0
#47
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States zkipa
we need n0thing but HS tomorrow USA
2015-07-03 00:50
0
#48
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Aflimacon
Great analysis! More of these, please?
2015-07-03 01:20
0
1 reply
#51
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
United States lurppis
if fnatic wins tomorrow, i'll do one for their semi-final vs. virtus.pro. the only problem with these is there's not much point in them without a history of head-to-head matches.
2015-07-03 01:56
0
#49
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland Qksc
I think I've been @ HLTV for 3 years now. First time I say something like this: -fREAK +Swag However, C9 played very well on this tournament. Awesome job for what I expected at least!
2015-07-03 01:39
0
-fREAK +lurppis cloud9 will do better with this lineup
2015-07-03 01:49
0
#56
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Fleshleaves
I hope ex-iBP players get unbanned in January. Their addition to teams would be very beneficial. Still, it's nice to see some performance from the existing teams that we can be proud of. :) ... Even if Cloud9 loses tomorrow (likely), hopefully they win a map and make a second one at least close. If so, the tournament has to be thought of as a success for them, and a very positive move in the right direction. :)
2015-07-03 04:10
0
#57
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada Nyne
seeing a constant trend going on sgares and freak holding down that bottom spot, i understand the excuse for sgares being igl an all, but isnt freak suppose to be entry with a .50 kdr pretty sloppppppy
2015-07-03 04:50
0
#59
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
United States ROCKY_JAYYY
Bodybuilding and computer games do not go well together because of your muscle memory isn't the same when you lift I hope swag gets unbanned so the lineup will be much stronger. It would also be nice if dazed joined as well but that would never happen
2015-07-03 04:59
0
1 reply
#91
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom jimak
I hope this is bait. fREAK needs a better brain, his aim is just fine.
2015-07-03 13:46
0
#63
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
France cedd
freakazoid plays pug style pushing, they need a leash on him
2015-07-03 06:08
0
1 reply
#94
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada WiseGuy
Honestly from the POV stream of the game vs EnvyUs yesterday, it seems sean has managed to contain the wild freakazoid and use him to his max potential (or close to it).
2015-07-03 13:58
0
#67
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lithuania arnyz
Happy +39 +38 sicccck
2015-07-03 09:05
0
#72
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malta fixmatchy0
freak is so bad and not even igl LOL worse than HUNDEN the almighty
2015-07-03 09:52
0
#74
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
United States generalmajorah
Holy crap I never realized how bad Freak has played against NV. Average of 8 frags in their 4 losses..
2015-07-03 10:08
0
#81
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland crossbow
easy C9
2015-07-03 11:35
0
#83
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom jimak
c9 strat - avoid happy & nbk nV strat - avoid ska, find fREAK
2015-07-03 12:08
0
1 reply
#87
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World woods
+1
2015-07-03 12:40
0
Ska will do the evil thing to french rectums..
2015-07-03 12:19
0
#86
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World shoxjr
hunden > freakazoid
2015-07-03 12:36
0
3 replies
#93
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada WiseGuy
Still better than you'll ever be (by an enormous margin).
2015-07-03 13:56
0
2 replies
#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland Reizzz
doubt that freakazoid is even worse than fox
2015-07-03 15:04
0
#103
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World shoxjr
mad?
2015-07-05 00:56
0
#92
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Hampzuka
It's hot as fuck today = C9 advantage C comes before N in the alphabet 9 is a 6 if you turn it upside down Sex is alright. C9 win
2015-07-03 13:48
0
#95
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World hln-
skadoodle is way too good for an american team. if you listened to cloud 9s pov yesterday you would know what a bunch of fucking retards he's been stuck with (n0thing and freakazoid especially)
2015-07-03 14:00
0
#98
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden xp_light
-seangares -freak + pyth + tarik
2015-07-03 15:50
0
1 reply
#101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States sishbabe
Idk if you're retarded or what. I can understand freak out for tarik (even though you'd just have to drop tarik for swag), but getting rid of Sean would wreck the team. His play as IGL has literally won them both maps against nV.
2015-07-03 17:14
0
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.

Back to comment

Now playing
Thumbnail for stream
Brazil
MADHOUSE TV
17891 viewers
Top streams
All(64)
Casters(45)
Streamers(12)
Organizers(7)
Brazil
MADHOUSE TV
(17891)
Brazil
gaules
(9964)
Other
PGL
(8165)
Brazil
gaules
(4778)
Other
Thunderpick
(3340)
Russia
Paragon
(2910)
Other
PGL 2
(2565)
Russia
watchfulTV
(2019)
Brazil
gaules
(1801)
Russia
watchfulTV B
(1445)
Argentina
forg1
(1212)
Brazil
boltz
(1099)
Russia
Paragon 3
(925)
Brazil
fer
(880)
Argentina
forg1
(877)
Russia
HappyChucky
(850)
Brazil
nak
(721)
Russia
poka
(697)
Ukraine
Maincast
(640)
Belgium
ScreaM
(588)
Poland
IzakOOO
(583)
United States
Trottah
(491)
United States
freakazoid
(479)
Russia
m4ga
(440)
Brazil
mch
(439)
United States
Stewie2k
(436)
Russia
Paragon 2
(421)
Romania
Werty
(421)
Russia
SBolt
(398)
Argentina
elmorocho7
(314)
Ukraine
Maincast 2
(273)
France
KRL
(235)
United Kingdom
ESL TV
(230)
United States
Trucklover86
(188)
Brazil
mch
(168)
Finland
pelaajat
(167)
Brazil
VitinhO
(156)
France
Croissant Strike
(146)
Mongolia
maaRaa
(139)
Brazil
kabrafps
(132)
Russia
jmqa
(128)
Brazil
XISTERA
(123)
Other
PGL
(118)
Mongolia
Zilkenberg
(107)
Brazil
coldzera
(89)
Brazil
Tris_Mara
(87)
Other
PGL 2
(69)
Russia
Paragon
(58)
Kazakhstan
Paragon
(58)
Brazil
gaules TV 2
(46)
Brazil
BTSBrasilTV
(38)
United States
Regent
(37)
Brazil
VilacaTTV
(35)
Brazil
Napa
(30)
France
KRL 2
(25)
Brazil
gaules TV
(25)
United States
Trottah
(25)
Finland
Elisa Esports
(13)
United States
iamfusiion
(12)
Ukraine
WOLF
(6)
Brazil
kabrafps
(5)
Ukraine
Maincast
(2)
Brazil
BTSBrasilFPS
(1)
Brazil
JokerBR (YouTube)
(1)