Second group stage drawn

20-8-2015 23:35

After fnatic finished their match with Natus Vincere and became the last team to advance to quarter-finals from first place, the second group stage was drawn.

All groups from the first phase have been played out, as we could see TSM, EnVyUs, Virtus.pro and fnatic surviving the new group stage system without being a victim to an upset.

Due to the new format, there was a shuffle with CLG, Kinguin, Titan and mousesports swapped to make sure none of the previous match-ups repeat themselves.

Without further ado, here are the new match-ups for day two:

Group E
eBettle	vs. CLG	E1
Null element Na`Vi	vs. E1 winner	E2

Group F
Kinguin	vs. Immunity	F1
Cloud9	vs. F1 winner	F2

Group G
Titan	vs. Renegades	G1
NiP	vs. G1 winner	G2

Group H
mousesports	vs. FlipSid3	H1
Luminosity	vs. H1 winner	H2

The playoff bracket then looks as follows:

Quarter-finals
EnVyUs	vs. E2 winner
TSM	vs. F2 winner
Virtus.pro	vs. G2 winner
fnatic	vs. H2 winner

Rip nip

2015-08-20 23:35

1 reply

titan? renegades? LMAO 2EZ

2015-08-20 23:39

Rough for NiP and Titan..

2015-08-20 23:35

good luck

2015-08-20 23:35

fak

2015-08-20 23:36

EZ for Navi, C9>Kinguin, Titan>NiP, Luminosity>mouz

2015-08-20 23:37

11 replies

mouz is way better than luminosity lol

2015-08-20 23:39

10 replies

not really

2015-08-20 23:39

better? seriuosly?

2015-08-20 23:40

Not "way" better. Just better. NO UNDERESTIMATERINO PLESE

2015-08-20 23:43

Maybe better, but not by much.

2015-08-20 23:43

Well LG was close to beat nV tonite. Cant say mouz,is WAY better. Tight matchup .

2015-08-20 23:47

No chance, they are very similar in skill

2015-08-20 23:48

yes yes, go all in mouz, just like kinguin

2015-08-20 23:54

3 replies

i dont bet

2015-08-21 00:41

2 replies

pls bet this time, i wanna ez skins just like vs kinguin game. awwww yeahhh :D

2015-08-21 01:10

1 reply

lol

2015-08-21 02:31

ez games

2015-08-20 23:36

ez for ebettle

2015-08-20 23:36

CLG got lucky

2015-08-20 23:36

Thats your chance mouz, go go

2015-08-20 23:36

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

2015-08-20 23:36

3 replies

The decider is bo3 I think

2015-08-20 23:40

2 replies

No, it's bo1.

2015-08-21 00:39

1 reply

That's sick

2015-08-21 08:26

n1n1n1

2015-08-20 23:36

Rip Nip and Kinguin

2015-08-20 23:36

na`vi c9 titan mouz thanks me later

2015-08-20 23:37

3 replies

luminosity imo

2015-08-20 23:39

+1 I agree

2015-08-20 23:49

yesss, pls bet in mouz, i need ez skins. haha

2015-08-21 01:12

See you soon nip

2015-08-20 23:37

NiP finally going out in the group stages of a major. I thought this day would never come. :D

2015-08-20 23:37

6 replies

uhm, Im pretty sure Titan is the favorite.

2015-08-20 23:39

1 reply

No shit, that's what he said

2015-08-20 23:48

Titan favourite over NiP? Not a chance.

2015-08-20 23:50

3 replies

after barely beating clg and losing 16-3 to tsm, nip would lose to renegades nevermind titan

2015-08-21 03:03

2 replies

I don't think so, it's of course possible but I think they'll make QF and then go out.

2015-08-21 03:10

1 reply

No offence, but both Titan & Renegades looked MUCH better yesterday and if this is the case, then NiP will prolly lose to either of them. If NiP gets their shit sorted out, then we might see them advancing to QF & who knows - maybe NiP will be in the GF once again, though I find this pretty unlikely (but remember last Cologne, the same situation actually).

2015-08-21 11:00

battles of tier2 ;d

2015-08-20 23:37

Yep, LG has a chance. RIP onliNEX

2015-08-20 23:37

1 reply

2015-08-20 23:42

easy for kinguin this time?

2015-08-20 23:37

2 replies

Nope

2015-08-20 23:49

1 reply

1 win :D

2015-08-21 13:28

titan ripped hard

2015-08-20 23:37

lg, c9 and navi should win. nip vs titan gonna be hard. Nip looked bad and titan looked kinda good tho

2015-08-20 23:38

9 replies

Breh I know you're br but mouz > lg

2015-08-20 23:39

8 replies

not a chance if LG played like they did today.

2015-08-20 23:42

3 replies

which i doubt they will with so little time to prepare specifically for mouz

2015-08-21 01:18

2 replies

I still believe LG will beat mouz. Mouz looked weaker than I thought.

2015-08-21 01:35

1 reply

Because cloud9 primarely focused in b site where denis playes while nex playes a site in overpass which meant that they outmoved the strongest player Of mouz imo lets See if LG are able to avoid him like c9

2015-08-21 12:56

I'm br but im not a retarded fangay that thinks LG is the best team in the world XD

2015-08-20 23:43

Kappa

2015-08-21 01:13

2 replies

funny how youre br as well

2015-08-21 01:19

1 reply

Keepo

2015-08-21 01:24

these games will be bo1 aswell?

2015-08-20 23:38

brazil x germany

2015-08-20 23:38

2 replies

16-1

2015-08-20 23:40

lel 7-1

2015-08-21 01:47

Would make my year if nip go out in groups and titan move through

2015-08-20 23:38

1 reply

Renegades > Titan, Renegades > NiP I believe

2015-08-21 01:50

Rip titan or nip. Kappa

2015-08-20 23:38

navi mouz titan(hopefully) c9

2015-08-20 23:38

best of one in all matches above?

2015-08-20 23:38

1 reply

2015-08-21 00:04

Na`Vi, Cloud9, NiP, mousesports ez

2015-08-20 23:39

2ez4nip

2015-08-20 23:39

is it bo1 or bo3?

2015-08-20 23:40

why Keyd and Flipside in same group? They are group B in first groups? nice organization

2015-08-20 23:41

4 replies

that's good for LG (keyd...) though, good chance of advancing.

2015-08-20 23:43

2 replies

i dont cry , I question because of the rules

2015-08-20 23:46

1 reply

they haven't played eachother, so nothing is wierd.

2015-08-20 23:46

it happens to every group mate. But LG and f3 havent played against each other.

2015-08-21 00:03

best chance renegades have right here

2015-08-20 23:41

Na'Vi C9 NiP Mouz

2015-08-20 23:41

oh fuck, poor renegades :D

2015-08-20 23:42

8 replies

best chance they have in all honesty

2015-08-20 23:47

7 replies

Imo Titan is easily the strongest reshuffled team, also very organised. I don't see renegades winning that match. :/

2015-08-20 23:59

6 replies

come on mate, since when do titan get out of groups... :( let alone win games

2015-08-21 00:11

5 replies

lol they came very close to upset Navi on their best map. I think they deserve some credit as they are a 1 month team.

2015-08-21 00:16

4 replies

Yeah but then Na'Vi got destroyed 16-2 by Fnatic. Na'Vi aren't on form.

2015-08-21 01:53

2 replies

They played on inferno - prolly one of the best fnatic's maps (they were considered THE best inferno team) & one of the weakest Na`Vi's maps. I believe that on overpass it would be way closer.

2015-08-21 11:04

1 reply

Since when is inferno one of Na'Vi's weakest maps? Yes Fnatic are strong on Inferno but Na'vi are pretty strong too? They've taken out pretty much every top team on inferno at some stage. Also, the last game I saw them play on inferno was against the new and improved Cloud9, and they demolished them 16-3. Yes Fnatic are better at mirage but Na'Vi should have put up at least 10 rounds. They're in bad form.

2015-08-21 13:35

i forgot the kapperino

2015-08-21 03:30

VP vs fnatic in semis, fuck sake again XDDD

2015-08-20 23:42

2 replies

NiP vs VP in quaters? RIP VP 4Head

2015-08-20 23:43

1 reply

lol'd

2015-08-21 00:55

finally c9 getting lucky with the draws for once

2015-08-20 23:42

5 replies

I swore they were going to get titan

2015-08-20 23:45

Lucky? Meh. NAVI got lucky, CLG/eBettle will be easy win for them. Kinguin played bad today, but can they beat c9 in a bo1? Definitely.

2015-08-20 23:51

3 replies

Immunity is no challenge for them and Kinguin/CLG are on similar level. And Kinguin/CLG are on similar level.

2015-08-20 23:56

2 replies

And Kinguin/CLG are on similar level.

2015-08-21 00:03

1 reply

And Kinguin/CLG are on similar level.

2015-08-21 01:55

Envyus x Navi TSM x cloud9 VP x NIP fnatic x LG

2015-08-20 23:42

FOR MY PICKEM -------------- Na'Vi C9 NiP Mouz

2015-08-20 23:43

5 replies

agreed

2015-08-20 23:47

2015-08-21 00:14

Same, but NiP vs. Titan was VERY hard to call, and I think we might lose that one.. :\ (also had LG instead of Mouz but that's a tough call as well)

2015-08-21 01:38

2 replies

that's the only hard thing that was hard for me, one of my favourite teams but NiP always go big when they need to

2015-08-21 10:11

1 reply

Well now it's NiP vs. RNG. Interesting, didn't expect that. Nervous for the Swedes, since they did NOT look like they performed better than Titan, and titan got crushed pretty easily...

2015-08-21 19:26

Navi C9 NiP Luminosity

2015-08-20 23:43

1 reply

+1 lets hope, if i win all silver coin :D

2015-08-21 00:02

NiP-VP legendary matchup inc. !!!!!!,cant wait rly :)

2015-08-20 23:43

1 reply

Finally! Unless NiP decides to go ham on us fans and chokes utterly :(

2015-08-20 23:55

enVy - Na'Vi = enVy TSM - Cloud9 = Cloud9 VP - Titan = VP Fnatic - Luminosity = Fnatic

2015-08-20 23:44

3 replies

There is no way C9 beat TSM

2015-08-21 00:11

2 replies

yes they can

2015-08-21 02:36

Actually C9 always were good vs old-dignitas\TSM, so I think this is their best chance.

2015-08-21 11:05

I think the quarters will be: EnVyUs vs Na'Vi TSM vs Cloud9 VP vs NiP Fnatic vs mousesports

2015-08-20 23:44

TSM - C9 also gr8 matchup wow amazing tourney love MAJORCHYPE YES

2015-08-20 23:44

tsm got their semi

2015-08-20 23:44

C9 getting the easiest one rofl

2015-08-20 23:47

10 replies

wat

2015-08-20 23:48

5 replies

I know it's hard for HLTV users but you could think before posting. Yes C9 has been lucky and got the easiest teams out of the ones that were drawn (I mean Kinguin or Immunity cmon rofl) And no pls don't tell me they got TSM after because that doesn't really matter. They would have the same trouble vs the other 3 (VP the 'easiest' one of the 4 just 16-8 C9).

2015-08-20 23:57

4 replies

You just said vp would be an easier matchup for c9 than envy, tsm, or fnatic. Your logic is flawed, good bye

2015-08-21 00:16

2 replies

haha the typical goodbye when you don't have a good answer, didn't expect too much from HLTV idiots tho

2015-08-21 00:27

1 reply

You just said vp would be an easier matchup for c9 than envy, tsm, or fnatic. Your logic is flawed, good bye

2015-08-21 02:33

Just sayin', nV would be easier than VP imo

2015-08-21 01:41

you mean navi?

2015-08-20 23:49

3 replies

CLG better than Kinguin or Ebettle imo even if u say 13 rounds vs NiP doesnt mean much

2015-08-20 23:57

2 replies

Then let's just say "YOUR opinion" doesn't mean much!

2015-08-21 00:06

1 reply

probably more than yours tho thats for sure

2015-08-21 00:08

Bad draw i was hoping TSM/nV vs Fnatic would be semi but no same shit again VpvsFnatic (ofc they made it) Im really tired to seeing Fnatic thrashed Vp :/

2015-08-20 23:47

NiP will do this, allu will put something straight.

2015-08-20 23:48

This system is fu**ing bad. RiP NiP, RiP C9 against TSM, RiP luminosity against fnatic ... Gl to NaVi ...

2015-08-20 23:49

rip nip I really hope they won't even get to the final this time

2015-08-20 23:50

3 replies

Why that massive hate?

2015-08-20 23:52

2 replies

"massive hate" yeah right I just want to see them not get the easiest opponents again

2015-08-21 00:17

1 reply

Titan in groups, VP in quarters and possibly fnatic in semi's. It's been delivered for you.

2015-08-21 00:18

No way that NiP will reach finals this major. They will face VP in quarters, fnatic in semi's. Rip NiPperino. It's even possible they will get out of groups.. </3

2015-08-20 23:51

Was talking with my friend earlier today, told him I'd love for Titan and NiP to play BO1 elimination in this tourney. Prayers have been answered:D NiP will go out in groups.

2015-08-20 23:55

Envy - Navi TSM - Kinguin Virtus Pro - NiP Fnatic - Mouz

2015-08-20 23:55

7 replies

Do you know how is going to be in the semi-finals?

2015-08-21 00:09

4 replies

Winner nV - Na'Vi vs winner TSM/Kinguin Winner VP - NiP vs winner Fnatic/mouz (in this particular example).

2015-08-21 00:19

3 replies

Oh no! VP will take fnatic in semis :(

2015-08-21 00:20

There is no info whatsoever about future semis. That's simple prediction you made based on nothing basically. ;) It might be another drawn after quarters. Stop speaking as it's confirmed or based on knowledge. That was 100% speculation. ;o

2015-08-21 02:37

1 reply

No it isn't. Fnatic/VP can't face nV/TSM until the final with the current bracket. The other 4 quarterfinalists have yet to be determined, but I used his prediction as an example.

2015-08-21 11:31

Kinguin over c9? lol

2015-08-21 01:54

1 reply

Yes, lol.

2015-08-21 15:25

NiP must stand up big or they will be really in a bad top teams position

2015-08-20 23:56

Lol I thought with this format the new groups would be with actual double elemination so teams get to play at least 3 maps like the did with the old group style, but now the losers only get 2? wtf

2015-08-20 23:56

1 reply

ye same lol

2015-08-21 00:00

lmao. titan still going out in groups after all ;/

2015-08-20 23:58

NaVi C9 NiP mouz my choices

2015-08-20 23:59

1 reply

110% agree.

2015-08-21 00:48

Group E Na'vi Group F Cluod 9 Group G NiP Group H Luminosity/Flipsid3

2015-08-21 00:00

1 reply

lg, no way F3

2015-08-21 00:02

vp vs fanatic is semi finals again hyh

2015-08-21 00:01

Rip mouz.. no top4 this Major

2015-08-21 00:01

1 reply

Believe my brother, believe.

2015-08-21 00:06

this new format is rubbish, had q back to the old, lg would pass easily, as well as clg navi and c9, please volvo

2015-08-21 00:03

rip mouz rip kinguin rip titan rip clg

2015-08-21 00:04

NV navi Tsm c9 Vp titan Fnatic lg Nv tsm Vp fnatic

2015-08-21 00:05

4 replies

fnatic vs tsm/nv (hope for nv) btw are these "NV navi / Tsm c9 etc" bo1 or bo3? bo1 sucks...

2015-08-21 00:14

3 replies

Quarters and on are bo3

2015-08-21 00:19

2 replies

k ty

2015-08-21 00:24

1 reply

Your welcome

2015-08-21 05:32

Why this drawn? Some teams have an advantage than others, my god.

2015-08-21 00:07

navi easiest group xD

2015-08-21 00:12

This reshuffle with still bo1 format makes it even more random as fuck btw. Volvo plssss

2015-08-21 00:15

LG vs Fnatic in quarter, omg.

2015-08-21 00:16

Playoff, bracket should have been posted after all the second group matches ended, this is a big failure by ESL.

2015-08-21 00:17

Anyway hope that kinguin will take a point of these and should be quarter-finalist. Why quarter-finalist? Because they don't have very good communication in micro-moments. In any case, I see top 4 of this tournament below: - Team SoloMid - EnVyUs - fnatic - Virtus.pro I've chosen only quarter-finalists cuz I'm sure that nobody of looser-brackers won't advance any place of top4. Anyway, gl everyone.

2015-08-21 00:17

if lg pass, the will face fnatic again...

2015-08-21 00:17

People continue to underestimate LG. First they got on Kinguin train, now on mouz train. Yeah, EU teams are better, but not all of them. Judging by day 1, LG has a better chance than mouz.

2015-08-21 00:17

4 replies

Judging by day 1, LG has a WAY better chance than mouz. LG even could have won NV.

2015-08-21 00:20

3 replies

Yeah, thats what I'm saying, but people continue to ride EU teams dicks. They underestimated LG (Keyd) last major, they got top8. Than they underestimated them against TSM at ESL ESEA, they won. The amount of 'EZ KINGUIN/NV' I read today was freaking huge, and look how they performed. Now, 70% of people predicting and 'ez mouz', even though they played like s**t today. The lack of respect for NA/SA/AU scene is kinda annoying, even when they perform better.

2015-08-21 00:27

2 replies

You can't underestimate mousesports too. They are at same level. It's a 50-50 match. It will depend on the map. I hope LG ban dust2. I don't know about cache since cold joined and he is a beast in this map, but it's a strong map for mouse too. I hope Boltz doesnt' underperfom too. It's a shame the match it will be at my work time.

2015-08-21 02:05

1 reply

Not underestimating mouz. I know what they're capable of. It's just people are so obnoxious when it comes to EU x Rest of the world. Plus, I'm not lying, they played bad today and LG made a bold statement. Won't be easy for mouz.

2015-08-21 02:10

Fnatic vs winner of mouz/LG wow... fuck this system. RIP mouz :(

2015-08-21 00:19

1 reply

RIP mouz and RIP LG

2015-08-21 00:29

lol

2015-08-21 00:21

navi kinguin titan limonosity

2015-08-21 00:22

Am I the only one who thinks nip will shit on titan?:S

2015-08-21 00:24

NiP will win vs titan

2015-08-21 00:32

rip nip

2015-08-21 00:51

omg, again vp vs fnatic in semi finals :x

2015-08-21 00:52

well vp is fucked in semis ;/

2015-08-21 00:54

LG bad luck... damn

2015-08-21 00:58

I don't like this system.

2015-08-21 01:09

envyUS - Navi TSM - Cloud9 Virtus.pro - NiP fnatic - Luminosity navi, tsm, virtus.pro, fnatic to top4 gl hf

2015-08-21 01:11

First time grand final without Nip incoming

2015-08-21 01:11

LG vs Fnatic. I Don't need say anymore.

2015-08-21 01:11

bad luck LG, even if they beat mouz will get raped by fnatic :(

2015-08-21 01:15

gogo LG!

2015-08-21 01:24

Why r people saying rip nip? Nip can def beat titan and make it to quarters

2015-08-21 01:32

5 replies

with the game they showed us today - i doubt that titan didnt really show something serious to us as well, it was prolly just a shittiest performance of navi since katowice 2014

2015-08-21 01:40

4 replies

RNG > Titan then RNG > NiP inc?

2015-08-21 02:05

3 replies

RNG definately can beat Titan, if Titan will let rng to go to deciders match, then RNG also has a strong chance, not saying they will advance for sure, but 30-70 isnt 0-100 vs Titan, and if they'll succeed - its 45-55 for them against nip

2015-08-21 12:30

2 replies

Yeah, I'm rooting for them

2015-08-21 13:29

1 reply

fucking hell this is a horrific day so far. immunity managed to lose such an easy possible win CLOUDFUCKINGNINE however also lost my skins eBettle lost in a very moment, they also shouldve won today navi BARELY saved my skins and now titan spills additional oil in a fire, tremendous.

2015-08-21 19:23

Na'Vi Cloud9 NiP LG Shitting myself about NiP vs. Titan, the rest should be steamrolls, with the exception of LG vs. Mousesports...

2015-08-21 01:45

this system is so funny and interesting ....mmmmmm nice job

2015-08-21 01:47

nip cmon we will rekt them all <3

2015-08-21 01:48

My first reaction if C9 advance: Oh shit, we have to play TSM... Then I realize, EVERY team would suck to play against!

2015-08-21 02:08

again VP and fnatic to cross their ways in semis xD pls why

2015-08-21 02:10

Ebettle Immunity Renegades Flipsid3 Nokappa

2015-08-21 02:16

these are all really interesting matchups, tommorow could go either way

2015-08-21 02:22

Even if LG pass Mouz they will face fnatic RIP LG, unlucky bastards

2015-08-21 02:24

1 reply

ofc fnatic is favourite in a match between then, but I believe in the upset power in a Bo3.. they're really good

2015-08-21 13:15

Csgo only worth for weekend majors lmao Still bo1, just make it a week long tournament like dota2

2015-08-21 02:29

Na´Vi Cloud9 NiP Luminosity :D

2015-08-21 02:32

is it confirmed that vp possibly will face fnatic in 1/2? or it will be redrawn?

2015-08-21 02:41

1 reply

I think VP and fnatic are in the same "bracket" so yes they can face in semis xD again xD

2015-08-21 02:47

I really wanted a TSM vs cloud 9 final. Was highly unlikely but Sucks that they play each other soon. If cloud9 make it out of groups which they should

2015-08-21 03:07

ebettle ez

2015-08-21 03:15

Rip Nip or Titanfall?

2015-08-21 04:12

1 reply

TSM vs Fnatic Cologne Finals.

2015-08-21 06:00

VP vs NIP/Titan incoming. Dafuq,why so early,fuck you ESL.

2015-08-21 04:46

navi c9/kinguin nip luminosity/mouz

2015-08-21 06:02

Hope navi makes it to semis at least

2015-08-21 07:10

No NiP - Fnatic final? gg

2015-08-21 10:00

Group E Na'Vi Group F Cluod 9 Group G Titan (BELIEVE IN SEX6TENZ) Group H Luminosity

2015-08-21 11:06

HAHAHHAHAHAHA THEY MADE NEW GROUP FOR THE NATIONAL GERMAN TEAM MOUSESPORTS BECAUSE THEY KNEW C9 GONNA REKT THEM !! SO THEY PUT THEM AGAINST THE SHITEST TEAM OF THE EVENT FLIPESIDE FOR QUALIFING THIS GERMAN NOOB TEAM IN 1/4 Final, and THEIR TICKETS FOR THE NEXT MAJOR !!! GREAT JOB ESL NO ONE SEES WHAT U DOING HAHAHHAHA

2015-08-21 13:16