DreamHack comments on Immortals ruling

11-9-2017 00:20

DreamHack has issued a statement about the decision to have Immortals forfeit the first map of the grand final in Montreal.

The DreamHack Open Montreal title decider began with North getting an automatic one-map lead due to three of Immortals' players failing to show up in time for the match.

With a quick 16-9 victory on Cobblestone, North were crowned champions, winning their first event since joining the organisation created by F.C. Copenhagen and Nordisk Film at the start of the year.

DreamHack sheds light on the Immortals incident

In a statement, DreamHack explained that the Brazilian team had been informed that the final would start one hour after the second semi-final, featuring North and CLG, had concluded, as part of the "accelerated scheduled which the entire tournament has been running on."

With the second semi-final ending after just two maps, DreamHack changed the starting time of final to 21:30 . Fifteen minutes past that time, Immortals still were not ready to play, forcing them to forfeit the first map of the final. The team was then given "an additional 15 minutes to be ready", with the second map starting only at 21:56 .

You can read DreamHack's statement below:

"The grand final of DreamHack ASTRO Open in Montreal was scheduled to start at 3:30PM local time, following the conclusion of the second semi final between North and Cloud9. The time was set with a one hour interval, from the second semi final concluding to the start of the grand final.

"Following the first semi final, in which Immortals won against CLG, the team was informed that the grand final would be scheduled to start one hour after the second semi final had concluded, as a part of the accelerated scheduled which the entire tournament has been running on, communicated to all attending teams ahead of time.

"During the second semi final, Immortals was once more informed about the start time of the grand final, as this match was nearing its end. Once the semi final concluded, Immortals were informed that they should now setup on stage for the final. At 3:05PM, Immortals had only two of its players present and ready.

"Immortals was informed that if they were not ready by 3:45PM - 15 minutes after scheduled start time - then they would forfeit the first map, in accordance with our rulebook.

"Immortals were not ready by 3:45PM and as a result forfeited the first map against North. Immortals were given an additional 15 minutes to be ready, otherwise they were subject to forfeit the entire match, as per our rulebook. Per 3:56PM the match was live.

"Thanks for the audience on site in Montreal and viewers at home for tuning in for another DreamHack ASTRO Open event, we continue in Denver on October 20-22. For more information about our Denver event go here."

In a Facebook post, Immortals member Lucas "⁠LUCAS1⁠" Teles blamed fatigued for the incident and stated that his team's players are jet lagged after travelling from Malmö earlier in this week, which made him, Henrique "⁠HEN1⁠" Teles and Vito "⁠kNgV-⁠" Giuseppe sleep through their alarm clocks after deciding to take a 30-minute nap in between matches.

nice

2017-09-11 00:21

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Really well deserved punishment.

2017-09-11 00:42

Lul

get rekt shitters twitter.com/NWDeKay/status/9070044450277.. rip FNS

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Fns is retarded tho

2017-09-11 00:24

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he might be retarded but at least he isn't kNg

2017-09-11 00:25

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I like u don't even know what happened and u try to maie kng look bad.

2017-09-11 00:26

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I don't need to know what happened just by reading his tweets I can see that he's the dumbest pro player in the scene twitter.com/kngvito/status/9070038799671.. just keeps digging himself a deeper hole, he's done

2017-09-11 00:27

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Are u retarded or just high ego?

2017-09-11 00:28

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high ego? what =DDDD keep defending players who literally need a babysitter hahaha twitter.com/IMTzakk/status/9069917960514..

2017-09-11 00:29

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I don't defend their sleeping lol are u blind?? But that fns & kng thing where u try to make kng look like shit without even knowing what happens there

2017-09-11 00:30

I wasn't at any point talking about the reason why they were late, I couldn't care less I'm talking about how incredibly stupidly he tries to defend himself

2017-09-11 00:32

"You'll prove it or I'll kill you" - kNg. LOLOLOL Enough. This fucking twat needs to learn some manners, otherwise he'll be the one to get problems down the line when a group of people gets enough of him. Such a tough Twitter kid, lmao

2017-09-11 12:18

Allu smartest with his balls :D :D :D

2017-09-11 12:34

The only part that matters is that kng is tweeting threats (one a literal death threat). Nothing else matters at all. Short of fns saying he's going kill kng or someone close to him, there is zero reason for that. So, yes, he's being retarded and doesn't deserve stupid fucks like you defending him.

2017-09-11 01:27

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"Nothing matters at all" shows me how ignorant fuck u actually are

2017-09-11 07:22

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Ignoring the rest of what I said and focusing on one thing, while not being able to spell or form complete sentences at all shows the whole world what an ignorant fuck you are. =)

2017-09-11 07:55

Bad bait m8

2017-09-11 07:57

That's what ignorant fucks say when they have no argument. =)

2017-09-11 07:58

No need to argue with idiot. Skill of speaking/writing makes me ignorant in ur eyes so ur just showing how retard u are

2017-09-11 08:00

I like u don't even know what happened and u try to maie FNS look bad.

2017-09-11 16:47

Wow expected kng already has criminal record

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Rly? Bcs of what?

2017-09-11 00:37

Thievery in Sao Paulo

2017-09-11 00:40

Yeah. We don't believe u. Need those facts.

2017-09-11 01:21

He's not even from SP lmao

2017-09-11 03:12

You'll prove it or I'll kill you.

2017-09-11 05:00

2017-09-11 05:11

LUL

How much brain dead can he be?

take away their prize money

They surely deserve a penalty

2017-09-11 00:54

Send them back to Brazil. Best penalty for them.

2017-09-11 01:41

They were already penalized, I think they understand. The only other action that could be reasonable is a fine to kng. Don't take the organizations money because of one players actions, the team was penalized with the FF

2017-09-11 03:08

Well apparently it's not fucking enough, when kNg goes to look for FNS at the player hotel like a tough gangsta. He obviously needs to understand that such behavior gets you banned from events.

2017-09-11 12:19

source of incident please

2017-09-12 03:14

DeKay.

2017-09-16 08:49

DRAMA

2017-09-11 00:22

HAHA

how can they be so late when they know its starting earlier lul

IMO, I think they told boltzz and steel, but the twins and kng were sleeping. Then they tried to talk to them, but they heard but probably did not listen, because they were sleepy. By that, they had only the old starting time.

2017-09-11 02:32

Thats it for sure 4Head

2017-09-11 17:24

fuck dream hack, you must know that us brazilians are lazy and we need extra time to do stuff

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fuck u

then don't attend events. why the fuck should brazilians have special privileges, follow the rules like any other team lazy scrubs.

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When you are the best nation of the sport, the 1st on ranking, u earn special privileges. Dont be jealous about brazil.

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U LOST TO NA U ARE OVER

2017-09-11 00:38

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

2017-09-11 00:39

brazil is the last nation i would be jealous about! btw. you arent the best nation in esport! keep dreaming tho.

2017-09-11 00:41

lmao you're getting baited so hard bro

2017-09-11 15:17

I doubt it. He is from Brazil.

2017-09-11 15:24

"When you are the best nation of the sport, the 1st on ranking, u earn special privileges." No.. I don't see why Denmark should get special privileges.

2017-09-11 02:46

Denmark/France have no privileges though..

2017-09-11 09:21

You are not the best nation in the world at CS lmao, you got 7 players that can play professionally, 3 kids who has skills but zero manners because shitty parenting, and the rest can't compete with Europe. Best nation requires the majority to be better than any given country, come again.

2017-09-11 11:47

Blaming org just because u are lazy fucks

stfu

Mad cause true? This guys were poor as fuck before joining immortals, now that ez money well lets treat it like garbage

2017-09-11 00:34

Why you doing this? Papa Bíceps is supporting them.

2017-09-11 02:33

Show up on time or else get the fuck outta this tournament -Dreamhack

2017-09-11 09:17

nt PROVE IT OR I'LL KILL YOU

?? Lul

You'll prove it or I'll kill you

2017-09-11 00:52

ROFL, THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING

Rigged

2017-09-11 00:23

Kek

Excuses for not listening the alarm clock LUL

You have to feel bad for them

For who? Fuck kng, fuck hen1, fuck lucas1. I'll feel bad for steel and boltz, but the rest of them deserve a one event ban from Dreamhack.

2017-09-11 02:35

-1

2017-09-11 02:41

For steel, boltz and DreamHack, yes.

2017-09-11 09:08

Yes, for Steel and Boltz who take the game seriously and DH. Not for those 3 fucking twats. They can go fuck off back to Brazil for all I care, FalleN and co. is sure to be shaking their heads in shame.

2017-09-11 12:21

Fallen said he was disapointed at the 3 players who arrived late on twitter. They are like fnx, they prefer partying over commiting to cs

2017-09-11 17:47

Understandable.

2017-09-16 09:37

very unprofessional and 3 Players not hearing their alarm clocks is an poor excuse. Ignoring their alarm clocks on purpose is more what happened.

It just doesnt make sens if they werent sleeping in a sound-prof locked room

You must be light sleeper, I have slept many time 1 hour, whole time my alarm clock screaming next to me. And I just dont hear it..

2017-09-11 01:16

Then dont lock the room bro. Someone must have tried to wake them up

2017-09-11 01:47

It's a lie. They were seen drinking the night before, and kNg is threatening FNS for telling the truth. It's sad such a kid doesn't understand anything at all.

2017-09-11 12:22

Lucas,hen, and kng what a suprise

Lies, so many lies

twitter.com/IMTzakk/status/9069917960514..

LUL, mainly kNg, this little kid

"the team was informed...." "Immortals was once more informed" "Immortals were informed " "Immortals was informed" They were informed multiple times and still failed. Nuff said.

2017-09-11 02:12

IKR? R E K T I M M O R S H I T S +1 :D

twitter.com/IMTzakk/status/9069917960514.. they need a babysitter hahaha

how come steel and bolts are there but not the other 3??? I don't think that steel or bolts would not try to wake them up...they care too much!

Perhaps steel and boltz didn't go back to the hotel to rest? Maybe they went to a restaurant and had something to eat or watched demos or something. So they didn't have time to go babysit three adults.

2017-09-11 06:41

I feelo bad for Boltz and Steel, they are great guys and they take the game seriously, unlike those 3 twats

2017-09-11 17:49

Bruh, stop using twat as an offensive word... I love twat.

2017-09-12 09:22

Sure what reason has Dreamhack to lie about this. Pretty clear for the neutral observer to see what happened.

The topest of the KeK Lmao

damn twitter.com/kngvito/status/9070038799671..

I thought he was retarded, but wow... This is even worse than I expected.

2017-09-11 09:06

"You owe us respect" ..... And you owe us professionalism, kNg. Fucking ungrateful twat

2017-09-11 12:24

LuL

so north had their pcs all set up after the semis and ready, then the final was accelerated 1 hour while they were asleep? or did I get it wrong?

yes IMT was informed multiple times before they got to rest.

oh, so they were informed that the game started 1 and half hour earlier before they went to sleep. thats interesting

They were informed when it would start in relation to the last semi final and didn't get a specific time but its still their fault that they didn't get ready in time. They were told that the grand final would start one hour after the end of the last semi final.

2017-09-11 00:50

they even weren't ready for the first official starting time at 3.30 pm so the sleep excuse doesn't work at all

Exactly. Sleeping excuses in general doesn't work, and it gets even worse than it is when you contradicted it at the start of the tourney as well.

2017-09-11 12:27

poor organization ridiculous out of worst organization

FakeFlag

2017-09-11 00:44

what the hell were they doing that made them not be back on time? any information?

the game was accelerated over 1 hour but apparently they were informed even though they were asleep...

2017-09-11 00:33

2 immortals players were on time, so it was definitely something else xD otherwise they would just wake them up lol

2017-09-11 00:53

Stop acting silly. They were informed that the game would start 1h after the second semifinal. After receiving this information, they went to sleep. If they assume the second semifinal to go three maps and all of them long OT and set their alarms after this assumption then it is their fault. A professional player (assuming one would sleep before a big match) would set the alarm assuming a short match, then wake up, check the results, if game is going long, sleep some more.

2017-09-11 00:59

how is this possible at lan...miss one game , i cant get it ...

probably sleeping :)

2017-09-11 00:36

does anyone know if the 3 did it, insteas of steel and boltz? if it was the 3 steel and boltz should get a better team

They cant They'd lose Legend status

Immortals should kick Kng for being such a grown child. Fucking grow up man, you're a professional.

they could've partied after the final.....

at least admit that you fucked up, but no, instead they're just trying to lie their way out of this, pathetic

worst excuses ever ffs, the twins are just pathetic but Kng, WTF MAN you really do deserve a big punishment

You're professionals. You don't get to not show up on time to a final, and you don't get to blame anyone but yourselves.

2017-09-11 00:35

These guys are the type of people who wouldn't even be able to hold down a job at McDonalds. If they weren't good at CS they'd probably be homeless bums.

Bruh. Amen to that shit

2017-09-11 00:49

they are not blaming anyone, they said they were to tired, kNg went to brazil and back to montreal in 5 days for example so i believe he must be exausted

I would have more sympathy for that if there were more than a1 hr time zone difference They were sleepy from some other shit and it sucks but it happened and these are the consequences

they think they are the big job

2017-09-11 11:05

Agree my man.

2017-09-11 12:29

Ez for North. They were champions the second imt got to the finals......kreygasm.....or something......

It seems like none of those players were partying on the night before, and fns already said that he was joking (lol). But nevertheless, Zakk (coach) told that some of these three need help to fulfill commitments (in this case, to wake up on the right time) and he is very sick, so was unable to help them out. In any case they're responsible for their lack of responsability, I hope they learn with this and become more responsables, they are very talented kids and would be a shame to see the scenario without them.

Featuring North and Cloud9, wrong in the article.

2017-09-11 00:45

Cheating = harsh punish; match fixing = harsh punish; Disrespect=1 forfeited map? :/ I'm not saying "ban them", but an apology (at least) is required from those 3 players (expecially KNG who thumbs down at cameras)

2017-09-11 00:46

So unprofacional.

2017-09-11 00:48

nice england

3 people sleep through alarm clocks lul

i hope they ban the whole team ahahahahah would be so nice.

"DreamHack changed the starting time" ........

2017-09-11 00:56

But I'm le tired

2017-09-11 00:58

ppl who say "blablabla changed schedule while they were asleep nice blabla" don't get that they weren't even ready for the official start time which was 3.30. It's like getting informed by your boss that you maybe have to work at 7.30 instead of 8.00, then getting this information confirmed, show up at 8.15 and complain you haven't gotten paid since 7.30. totally retarded

It's like people didn't read the full article and the IMT team were informed multiple times once after their win against CLG. Boltz and Steel were there on time but the 3 weren't.

2017-09-11 01:00

Good decision by DreamHack...we wanted professionalism in eSports, well...there you have it. All you guys (including seized on Nix0n's twitter) thinking that it's not such a big deal being late 10-20-50 mins for a match should just imagine football match being late, or any other sport. If it was my team I would fire them straight-away. #supportfordh :)

usually football matches like you used in your example of "professionalism" dont have volatile schedules that get accelerated by over an hour earlier, but I guess its not convenient to mention this for the case of your argument.

2017-09-11 01:08

Lmao pretty much... People want to bash IMT (BR) so hard that even when they try to be superrrr professionals, superrr concern they fail to acknowledge some very important facts... I call that the Thoooorin generation on HLTV

2017-09-11 01:11

I think he used the wrong comparison, nevertheless they were informed of the reschedule ahead of time. The whole tournament was using an accelerated timing schedule so it shouldn't be new to them plus the fact that boltz and steel were ready and the 3 weren't. Even their coach was upfront of the incident. twitter.com/IMTzakk/status/9069917960514..

2017-09-11 01:18

LOL. I am pretty sure they just didnt move the match and didn't inform the team. Or maybe you want to tell me that they had something better to do then show up for the match? How did it not happen to team North? Think about some other stuff...Rules are rules, I don't even know why are people discussing something like this.

2017-09-11 01:46

I definitly agree with you about professionalism, I just found the example to be misleading for this specific situation. It obviously didnt happen to team North cause they played the said the semi-final and was already setup on stage when they finished their game. That is in no way an excuse, team immortals should definitely have been more alert about the format and ready like everybody else would had been. And they did get punished. I just wrote in this manner cause there seems to be alot of people reading who are unaware about the circumstances surrounding this situation and flaming the players excessively. again this is not excusing them, just making the context clear.

2017-09-11 02:01

Yes ok that is true.

2017-09-11 02:45

2017-09-11 01:01

There's no professionalism if the organisers treat superstar players like toilet cleaners, waiting for people to finish using the toilet.

Organizers did what they should have done. No need to discuss anything.

twitter.com/followdusT/status/9069665889..

This just proves again what kind of brazilian are, no manners.

lmao just last week Lucas1 was playing RankS while being drunk xD how appropriate youtube.com/watch?v=yMcDVYQknSk starts at 8:45

2017-09-11 01:07

they should be penalized from the next following DH events.

2017-09-11 01:20

That's what happens when you give golden chances to potheads...their addiction is stronger than anything.

I hope Immortals punishes the twins and kng. Maybe half their salaries for 2 months? It's absolutely unacceptable. They are making Immortals brand look bad. There should be consequences.

2017-09-11 01:25

immortals dont deserve for reck jaruslav

2017-09-11 03:25

I'd suggest 2 year ban for all dreamhack events for these 3 idiots. Very disrespectful towards fans, crowd and DH crew...

Really happy they got what they deserved!

2017-09-11 01:28

North are desperate pussies and have poor sportsmanship. They should forfeit the second map and play the third map, Take an example of VP vs Mouz in the ESG Tour semis when Ropz's pc crashed. That's fair play and best class of behaviour!

2017-09-11 01:37

North didn't rule first map to themselves though.

2017-09-11 02:14

the tournament needed to be over asap, i don't know why but thats obvious

2017-09-11 02:48

Dude North is starving , they cant win shit its was the best chance in their entire career to win anything

2017-09-11 05:36

i'll not say anything

2017-09-11 11:08

They deserved this

2017-09-11 01:36

Omg looking forward to next Return of By the Numbers so much. That Thorin roast will be spicy :3

2017-09-11 01:38

Cant wait for the rekt!

Kind of shocked anyone would take PLAYING A VIDEO GAME that pays well and allows you to travel the world for granted. Really disappointed in Immortals despite their rumored party ego.

And Brasilians wonder why they are called F A V E L A Ofc not every brasilian are that retarrded but many of them are

If you visit Amsterdam, there are many scammers/pickpocketers, they're not Brazilian, but evil people are always around us.

2017-09-11 01:51

LOL i saw them in a bar in montreal last night

jesus, fucking brazilians hahahaha

nice, even more love from hltv in the future

2017-09-11 02:19

Typical undeveloped favelas....

2017-09-11 03:04

KNG, hen1 and lucas1 need to grow the fuck up

2017-09-11 03:06

The org changed the time and now the team suffers what a tournament.. And lots of people here are blaming IMMO for being unpro. wtf? blame the org they've change the time and the players didnt expect that and didnt even know because they are sleeping after giving them their next scheadule .

2017-09-11 03:11

no its the players fault, nixon used telepathy2.0 to inform the players in their sleep that schedule chanegd again. 100% fault on players alone

2017-09-11 03:30

haha telling players a 1hr time after the semi final game and then changed it to 15mins .. its their fault and they give north a 1map advantage.. wtf is that qualifier? HAHAHAHA.

2017-09-11 03:36

Somehow everybody else knew They weren't even ready by the original start time so clearly they were held up anyway, and even if they had no idea, their teammates should have some responsibility in letting them know

2017-09-11 05:06

Except the players obviously knew that the schedule could change depending on how fast the previous game went

2017-09-11 08:11

#KICK_HEN1LUCAS1&KNG. They don't deserve their spots ! #FREE_STEEL&BOLTZ

2017-09-11 03:21

all im saying if i paid to see a grand final i would have started chanting "LET THEM PLAY"

2017-09-11 03:27

Maybe its there stunt to get out of the org.. remember thoes exact 3 wanted to get out/traded...

2017-09-11 03:42

+1. Yes.

2017-09-11 22:28

Lol at the brazilian turtles twins.

2017-09-11 04:51

lul

2017-09-11 05:17

Lul. It was very clearly communicated BEFORE the tournament that it will be like that - fast finish of previous match results in a pull of the following. IMHO it was immortals who were not prepared or whatever reason is behind. Nevertheless, they knew that this could be a possibility and should have been there. The fact they didn't just shows that something is wrong. I wouldn't conclude they don't take it serious blah blah but would say something needs to be addressed properly. Only downside is for the fans who wanted to see a good grand final. GG north.

2017-09-11 05:42

they dont care about being professional clips.twitch.tv/CuriousMistyFungusDansGa..

2017-09-11 06:17

Well Immortals went bananas this time *slow clapping*

2017-09-11 06:21

Why are some people against this? IF the rumours are true that they were partying they should have lost the whole match! then they could've partied all they want.

2017-09-11 07:24

Who goes to take a nap before a fucking grand final worth 50.000 dollars? Damn man

2017-09-11 07:28

Typical IMT, dont give a shit

2017-09-11 08:15

#runkNgV #BADBOY !!! EU and NA have to do everything to bring SA down. sad, but they will only come back stronger. not like EU/NA organisers who resort to pussy tricks to give their scenes corrupt wins.

2017-09-11 08:24

Plath, worst baiter ever. Legit braindead.

2017-09-11 09:30

nt we know who would've won if EU/NA tournament organisers hadn't bent over backwards to disadvantage a BR team and compromise the integrity of the tournament. shame EU/NA will take any cheap win, even one that is remembered with an asterisk on the side. just to get any victories over BR. say that it's a shame, when they are secretly relieved. sad!

2017-09-11 10:01

"Blablabla im a shit baiter blablabla i bait all day to hide from my insecurities as an inferior piece of trash blablabla" That's all I read.

2017-09-11 10:03

well u sound b8d to me

2017-09-11 10:07

Was the bait being shitty a bait? I don't trust you, you'd need atleast 81 IQ to think of that.

2017-09-11 15:39

haHAA

2017-09-11 16:55

They were not sleeping, wtf. How naive can you be to believe that? Obviously they were doing something else...

Bad from DreamHack organization..

2017-09-11 08:37

lol? They went to a bar and got hangover and they decided to sleep instead of playing the game. How is that dreamhack's fault?

2017-09-11 13:19

Amazing. Booltz and Steel must feel like memegenerator.net/img/instances/250x250/..

2017-09-11 09:34

We drink, we late, We monkeys

you're "professionals" now. It's time to start acting like it. Fatigue or no. Be on time.

2017-09-11 11:11

Not even suprised that it was those three.. wasnt there an article few weeks back that they wanna play with fnx again? If so let em go and let em pick up another manchild so they have a team of 5 irresponsible unstable retards #freesteelnboltz

2017-09-11 11:45

who gives a fuck about what they are as persons, they should be there to play end of discussion. i love when hltv keep talking about players like this is a fkin reality show, now i know why this tv shows have audience... pathetic nosy viewers.

2017-09-11 12:50

Nice, i really like this drama.

2017-09-11 13:22

The thing that annoys me is how fucking nuts HEN1 is and how he's just pissing it up a wall. The guy is easy top 10 in the world ATM and hes just doing dumb shit, like with steel on ESEA and now this? Get your act together man, this is your livelyhood.

2017-09-11 13:39

2017-09-11 14:14

This team is full of kids with no education. They look like street robbers with bad scent. They should go to the bath and take a shower. Clean up their ugly faces and pimples. Read some books and stop eating bananas.

2017-09-11 17:19

first 2 sentence are legit, rest is bait

2017-09-12 01:50

gj dreamhack <3

2017-09-11 17:27

Good.

2017-09-11 17:34

drunk brazilians lel

2017-09-11 18:24

RESPEITA O KNG

2017-09-11 19:03

You'll prove it or I'll kill you!

Unprofessional chimpanzees

2017-09-11 22:07

twitter.com/Thooorin/status/907243560898..

2017-09-12 04:16

Have nothing who justifies the immortalz's error, but that is a final, all immortalz players were in the 15 minutes dreamhack gave them, but they were not ready yet, the adm could have made an exception since it was a final, fuck the rules, the show sucked and this could have been avoided by dreamhack.

2017-09-12 15:48

Even tho IMT deserved it, I feel sorry for the fans on stage and the sponsors. If i had the option as an organizer, I would have let the finals go on. Or, at least, I'd have asked for North's players to decide whether they wanted the first map "free" victory or if they wanted to play all maps.

2017-09-13 17:35