WinOut remove CS squad

14-4-2009 22:00

WinOut release their Counter-Strike 1.6 squad with immediate effect.

The North American organization picked up a very promising lineup just a few weeks ago. Going strong at its first LAN event (ETS 2009), followed by great results in the North American online-leagues, the organization today announce the removal of the team.

The team lived up to the organizations expectations in-game, but due to unprofessional behavior, the team will no longer be supported by WinOut.

Doug Jacobson from WinOut stated following:

"The team was absolutely incredible in-game, but professional gaming requires a lot more than the ability to win matches. You need a certain marketability to obtain sponsorship and a fan base for the long term. Sadly, this team just doesn't have the skills or the professionalism required to do so. Personally, I think it's a waste of talent."

Following players are now free agents on the marked:

Michael "chE" Guevara
Scott "evolution" Cavallero
Liridon "quas" Ademaj
Kevin "aZn" Wang
Dan "mehLer" Mehler

At this point, no home has opened its doors for the team. Stay tuned for updates, where this team will be heading.

Bad-bad news ;(

2009-04-14 22:03

GJ NOOBS!

2009-04-14 22:06

bad news :(

Lol i said it its always gona happen with evolution in squard

2009-04-14 22:07

2 bad for evolution, he's a good awp

2009-04-14 22:21

I wonder what exactly they did

2009-04-14 22:23

lol! they are winning and thats not enough ?! their marketability is not good...rofl money rules the world sad sad

2009-04-14 22:28

blame aZn

2009-04-14 22:32

2bad :(

2009-04-14 22:45

fail

2009-04-14 22:46

that's stupid! they win the game but fail to have marketability. that sound like coming from a different world!

2009-04-14 22:47

wow.. that's really a bad news....

2009-04-14 22:48

that`s what happens when the game becomes a bussines ...

2009-04-14 22:53

What did they do? :O:O

2009-04-14 23:05

Something's Off ;] imo

2009-04-14 23:10

and the crisis

2009-04-14 23:28

I don't know why Jacobson went this far. Our main reason for departing was the funding and what we were getting in return. Jacobson wanted us to promote his website (Which we had no problem in doing so) but for nothing in return. We received no form of compensation for any new PRO users or any features we did on the site. He wanted Blogs, Features and videos done (He pays people for this) but he would not pay us a dime. With the current economic situation I understand the penny pinching moves. Once Evolution moved to Florida, Jacobson told us that he would not be paying for his traveling fees and this did not make any sense to us. We were all local NYC players and the only major lans coming up would be the WCG Invitational (if we get invited) which is in NYC and does not cost us anything to go to and the x3o lan tournaments which we always carpool to. This is no great expense for anyone to cover and we could cover these ourselves. Other organizations started to approach us and this made Jacobson very uncomfortable and he gave us an ultimatum, "sign the contracts by this weekend or im dropping you". The contracts basically locked us up for a full year of doing his features/blogs/videos which people paid to see and we would not be paid for it. When I asked him about salary or any goals or incentives in the contract that could lead to a salary or some sort of payment he laughed at us. We would get no salary no matter how well we did and the fact that he was not willing to pay for travel fees made it very difficult to agree with him. Any money we did win would have to be split with the organization and we would have to payback any money he did give us. I told him that it didn't sound fair and we were basically paying him to use the WinOut name. We told him we would not sign the contracts unless we changed some things around and that if he was going to drop us then he should prepare a statement for Monday. In the end I believe that Jacobson saw an opportunity to get exposure for his website and he took it. He felt that if he ever needed to drop us he would be able to without any problems, seeing as aZn had "unprofessional" issues with CGS and chE and evo with team EG and he tried to take full advantage of that. - Liridon "quas" Ademaj On a gotfrag thread ,www.gotfrag.com/cs/forums/thread/395287/

2009-04-14 23:41

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well in that case i wouldn't have accepted either.. GL in future guys ;)

2009-04-15 09:48

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don't worry boy... ;)

2009-04-15 19:21

what bad behavior? any1 knows?

2009-04-15 00:04

Its not bad behavior , but "unprofessional behavior" according to Jacobson.

2009-04-15 00:36

evolution good player

2009-04-15 00:10

ROFL. How hilariously unlucky is mehler?

2009-04-15 01:12

I know right? Jeez... And it's not like the guy's horrible either...

2009-04-15 03:07

AHAHHA that lasted long.

2009-04-15 03:51

"unprofessional behavior" LOL

2009-04-15 06:50

The response to quas Jacobson speaks about the WinOut CS team's controversial departure complexitygaming.com/index.php?c=news&id..

2009-04-15 10:49

www.complexitygaming.com/index.php?c=news&id=760

2009-04-15 16:09

poor mehLer.... missing the times of Turmoil.

2009-04-15 13:13

This team is really strong, how unlucky of the to end up with a shitty organisation.. That manager sounds like a p***k..:o

2009-04-15 14:26

read complexitygaming.com/index.php?c=news&id.. gives another point of view .. however, im not sure who to believe .. but in this case its leaning towards WinOut

2009-04-15 15:59