More TYLOO changes: kaze out

17-5-2024 09:55

The Malaysian AWPer follows advent and aumaN out of the door after several chaotic months at TYLOO.

Andrew "⁠kaze⁠" Khong is the next player to depart TYLOO, the organization has announced on Twitter. The 29-year-old leaves after a seven-month spell with the team.

The Chinese side previously parted ways with long-time in-game leader Zhuo "⁠advent⁠" Liang and benched player ZhiHong "⁠aumaN⁠" Liu on Thursday.

TYLOO part ways with advent and aumaN

There seems to be no end in sight for the changes in TYLOO, who used countless different lineups involving eight different players in the past few months.

At IEM Chengdu they even turned up with a six-man roster with a possibility to change players between matches. In the end, they didn't do so and used the same roster, involving kaze and advent, in their ESL Pro League Season 19 campaign as well.

Both international outings turned out unsuccessful, as TYLOO went out in last place at IEM Chengdu and in 21st-28th place in Malta with their losses ranging from some of the world's best teams like MOUZ and G2 to their local rivals, Lynn Vision.

The team's future is now up in the air, and with the two eldest and most experienced players out, they remain with the following core of their last lineup and several players in reserve:

Yi "⁠JamYoung⁠" Yang
Jingxiang "⁠Mercury⁠" Wang
Dongrui "⁠zdr⁠" Zhang

Xielin "⁠k4Mi⁠" Zhu (coach)

LiYang "⁠lyrics3⁠" Jiang (benched)
Qianhao "⁠Moseyuh⁠" Chen (benched)
Shengjun "⁠aristo⁠" Jin (benched)
Zhenghao "⁠DANK1NG⁠" Lv (benched)
WingHei "⁠Freeman⁠" Cheung (benched)

10 man roster

2024-05-17 09:55

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with 7 out of 10 benched

2024-05-17 09:57

They are only down to 8 now, wdym

2024-05-17 11:10

Expected

Seems like +Jee

2024-05-17 09:56

Cool

respect god kaze wtf Tyloo?

2024-05-17 09:58

it will probably never happen but god i wish danking would return to this team danking moseyuh mercury jamyoung +1 igl this team cooking

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Jee is coming

2024-05-17 11:39

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i don't trust that chinese annihilation one bit

2024-05-17 17:24

yeah would be a sick team ngl

2024-05-17 15:57

damn he didnt go to the bench, wonder if a team will pick him up and who

2024-05-17 09:59

2024-05-17 12:38

Chinese c9 then we would have 4 continental c9 lineups.

2024-05-18 10:54

What are they cooking

Moseyuh, Mercury, JamYoung (IGL), Jee, Starry/zdr.

2024-05-17 10:00

jy igl ??

2024-05-17 15:47

Can we at least try lyrics now, even if he doesn't igl.

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Tyloo already ruined him. He doesn't want to play anymore apparently.

2024-05-17 10:01

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That's actually so fucked. Imagine getting a dream move to the biggest cs org in China (I think) just for them to not even try you, and you sit on the bench probably waiting out a long contract.

2024-05-17 10:03

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He did play matches with them online in asia. They played with a roster of lyrics, Mercury, JamYoung, zdr and advent. The problem was that lyrics couldn't IGL because advent was still playing. Lyrics got tired of advents stupid way of leading the team and basically benched himself. But you are still right. He never got a proper chance to lead the young team he was originally promised. (Moseyuh, zdr, Mercury, JamYoung)

2024-05-17 10:11

All in all advent wasn't the worst igl. Of course he should be out of the roster like 2 years ago, moseyuh should never be benched (and was because of advent i guess and strange bonds within the team) But i feel like every roster change after mercury, moseyuh to this point were terrible. zdr is slowly proving himself but I don't know if he will ever be a player of this caliber same with lyrcis

2024-05-17 11:22

I commented below so I won't fill it up here again but spot on with their HORRENDOUS roster decisions. Not even a thought about what they were trying to do or accomplish. Even though Moseyuh should have never been benched the fact they didn't go after someone for the 3 months to actually replace him was wild. Sticking with Auman for that long + cs2 really hurt them as I feel like that's when Kaze started falling off.

2024-05-18 03:54

wtf chinese scene mimicking its own political scene wtf all of the kids watch too many wuxia series like lang ya bang and now everyone is a sun tzu of the emotional battlefield

2024-05-17 12:43

TyLul moment, they panicking before the chinese major axaxa

Malaysia's finest should be a good pickup for any T2/3 team

2024-05-17 10:09

2024-05-17 10:30

why the fuck did they get rare atom just to disband them?

2024-05-17 10:10

Because kaze was still pretty good a couple of years ago. Even advent was just your average 0.90 rated IGL back then.

2024-05-17 10:12

Kaze is still the best player in the region though :o Kaze in, kaze out, kaze in, kaze out. What are they doing?

2024-05-17 10:16

Kaze might be good enough currently, but he is getting pretty old. Its better to replace him with Jee/some other young sniper that has the potential to grow.

2024-05-17 10:19

Kaze wanted to retire and have some rest some time ago iirc And he couldn’t because he was literally the only good awper in the scene

2024-05-17 14:32

This tard org let Moseyuh on the bench Jamyoung Danking Moseyuh Mercury IGL

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Their roster is going to be: JamYoung (IGL) Moseyuh Mercury Jee zdr/Starry When are y'all going to realize DANK1NG is making millions streaming and doesn't want to play professionally

2024-05-17 10:18

Who gonna igl ? We didn’t know danking was stupid ! I got it now ty Zdr looking like weak on fire power does he call ?

2024-05-17 10:21

JamYoung is supposedly going to IGL. Apparently advent has been teaching him

2024-05-17 10:22

why jamyoung igl wtf bro wants to be yekindar so bad

2024-05-17 10:29

Yeah, idk. Probably because there aren't many igls in China

2024-05-17 10:34

jamyoung has been played with advent for such a long time (since ViCi Gaming, which is even before Rare Atom) and I believe advent must taught him how to be a proper IGL. Besides jamyoung's playstyle is more like ropz in my opinion, though he might not be able to lurk anymore when become igl.

2024-05-17 15:56

meh, this feels more like them seeing the success of bLitz and desperately wanted to replicate what he can do as well. A high impact fragger that can also simultaneously IGL at the same time.

2024-05-17 19:16

I love china.

2024-05-17 10:15

NO KAZE NO WIN

2024-05-17 10:17

hes getting to old and too inconsistant.

2024-05-17 10:45

I wonder how much they pay now all the benched players

where do they get the kind of money that allows for 5 players on the bench.

china money dude

5 players on china bench < blamef on bench. Low salaries

2024-05-18 10:57

Tyloo is going to buy every player in China and bench them therefore no more compete smart moves 200iq

Had no idea these guys were 29 and 31 lmao. Asian genetics unfair.

2024-05-17 10:27

they look younger, but they are smaller than EU

2024-05-17 11:31

I know, I'm 1.90m and taller than most people in countries besides NL.

2024-05-17 12:09

They should just put starry on there with JamYoung. Could be a solid chinese team.

2024-05-17 10:28

Why would starry downgrade? LV is way better than tylul

2024-05-17 10:46

why wouldn't we put JamYoung on LV and z4kr back to awper.

2024-05-18 08:03

Lol kaze is way better than Jee lmfao

Holy hell look at all those benched players, you can field an entire starting lineup Asia is crazy

indeed but "bench" has a very close meaning as "leave" in (and maybe only in) tyloo. these player's contract with tyloo are just not expired and no one want to buy them out.

2024-05-17 16:09

TyLUL

2024-05-17 10:44

They need a 0.90 igl so bad. Jamyoung Mercury Moseyuh Jee 0.90 igl

Jamyoung apparently igl so he will be 0.90 soon dont worry

2024-05-17 12:03

Sad day for malaysian cs. Its so joever.....

2024-05-17 10:56

+moseyuh +dank1ng

2024-05-17 11:01

Jamyoung Mercury Moseyuh DANK1NG lyrics3 EZ GOOD CHINA TEAM WITHOUT RUINING LYNN, OR OTHER ORG

2024-05-17 11:02

afaik lyrics3 doesn't want to play anymore

2024-05-17 12:49

if i not mistaken he does not want to play anymore under advent IGL? cuz i see him once in a while playing with DANK1ING on 5EPLAY

2024-05-18 07:39

What's going on there

2024-05-17 11:17

team BENCHED

2024-05-17 11:24

Why did they bench so many great players? wtf

2024-05-17 11:59

SOURCE: TyLoo offered buyout for Blitz and Techno and build asian super team Blitz Techno Mosyeuh Jamyoung Mercury. But Mongolian Gigachads refused their offer.

2024-05-17 12:08

Jee Jee

2024-05-17 12:11

What a absolute disaster for the chinese scene. No wonder they suck at FPS and are better at MOBA. U might aswell transfer them all to some t3 chineste team in LoL and they might do better together. This reshuffling shit is a disgrace, atleast mongolz can put their shit together

2024-05-17 12:13

the best mongolian roster has been unstable for a long time before mid 2023. players like Annihilation, bart4k, and even kabal, nin9, sk0R has been shuffled in and out their roster. I dont think reshuffle is a bad thing. it is clear that this tyloo roster (inherited from 5yclone, RA & ViCi) are getting weaker in competition for long (since Rio 2022 i believe) - then why not consider a change? though the move before this roster (the international one) is a complete joke tbh

2024-05-17 16:21

Their roster changes make no sense though. I think that's part of the issue. From a non-insider their big issue was that Kaze started falling off and with Advents lack of, even average, fire power it really made the young guys have to perform every game. I guess prior to cs2 coming out Kaze had really been playing some good CS and was helping make up for Advent's lack of impact stat wise. You also have the whole Auman fill-in/replace Moseyuh when he got put into a substitute role. It made no sense when talking about their goals for the present and future for where the team was at and trying to get to. Then after 3 months they decide to not only bring back Moseyuh but get rid of the three veteran players... all at once. Advent, Kaze, and Auman.. although he should have never stayed on the starting roster for that long. Finally like 2 weeks after all that happens Moseyuh is back on the bench with lyrics joining him just so they can bring BACK both Advent and Kaze. But no... it wasn't even final. Now we are saying bye to all 3 of the veterans as they are off the team. Im all for changing rosters but this is just nonsense. The proper roster move originally (from a outsider perspective with no knowledge of their chemistry) would have been to either get rid of Advent and gamble with a new caller or get rid of Kaze and gamble on an up and coming awper or gamble by getting another solid mechanical rifler and go no awp. Like what are they even trying to go for with these moves and who is overseeing this teams roster decisions? I wonder if Advent originally had some say or if it's completely from above. Just sad considering the young talent they had/have that have kind of stagnated in terms of individual progression.

2024-05-18 03:48

I think maybe it's just because some of the rumors that only spread among Chinese media and streamers are not brought to light. If we compare the roster change today to the time when Tyloo just took over 5yclone, the only change is just -advent -kaze +jee +zdr/starry (still in rumor). If we see the lineup from this perspective, the only risk Tyloo is taking is that they abandoned all the veteran players but still keep jamyoung, moseyuh, mercury as a less-experienced & younger core. All the changes in the lineup in the meantime seem to be temporary expedients to me including zdr, lyrics, auman, etc. these changes really seems to be chaotic, but they happened for a reason. when moseyuh set to substitute: It is romored that moseyuh is getting tired of advent's rigid IGL style and seeking new opportunities - it is even said that moseyuh once got in touched with BLEED - disloyalty to the team led to his substitution. when auman stand-in: i believe he is just a temporary subsitiute for his plug-and-play compatibility with advent (they have been teammates since 2016). soon Tyloo faced failure in their RMR and the problem of lack of firepower has shown due to 3 veteran players in their lineup - this led to tyloo's attempt on lyrics3 and zdr. lyrics3 and zdr are scouted from platform like faceit in China by advent as he scouted jamyoung, mercury & moseyuh. The lineup was supposed to be j&m&m with zdr and lyrics that time - from this time advent is claimed to retire someday and about to hand over IGL to lyrics (both igl & main awper). But plans cannot catch up with changes - lyrics had some conflicts with advent on his trial so he cannot even get a real chance to a professional play. At the same time, IEM Chengdu is about to be held, so advent has to be in the lineup both to train zdr & perform his last dance. Soon after IEM Chengdu, the plan of a younger roster was put on the agenda. We still dont know the final roster, but it can confirm that these roster change back to mid 2023 are just an unfinished project as a response to their many failures attempted to become asia #1 back to 5yclone & Rare Atom, simple like that.

2024-05-18 14:24

+aHang

2024-05-17 12:55

if tyloo just sign every asian player to sit on their bench, then they will qualify. ez

2024-05-17 13:13

Bring back bntet and danking and it is a solid top 15 contender

2024-05-17 13:23

does anyone even care about tyloo anymore? isn't the problem not in players but in org? when this roster were rare atom they were a solid team in asia and where they have gone since they became tyloo? everything crumbled. if u are pro in china just stay away from tyloo org. thats all i can say

2024-05-17 14:15

asia cs is dead. right now only the mongol from mongolia and israelis players from israel that dominate cs from asia . there are no more talent from asia region except israel because in asia there no fpl and lack of server if u play faceit.

2024-05-17 14:18

agree. but what israeli players are you talking? is there any israeli team in top cs?

2024-05-17 14:25

I thought the Chinese mainly used 5E or whatever their pug platform is called.

2024-05-18 03:50

Actually asian people migrated to Valorant and are actually pretty good at it

2024-05-17 14:38

no. actually, majority asian player that switch to valorant because they washed out in cs. most of them prefer to play flashy playstyle that hard to do consistent in cs instead play with tactical playstyle.

2024-05-24 06:27

valorant matches with K-POP lifestyle for sure

2024-05-24 12:02

Kaze super team with advent inc

2024-05-17 14:46

now +s1mple ez top10

2024-05-17 15:19

he should have go together to Gen.G with Bntet where he had time,instead he decided to farm money from chinese matchfixes :)

2024-05-17 15:20

rip Tyloo Kaze is a god

2024-05-17 19:09

+smooya

2024-05-17 20:02

Finally those bots are out

2024-05-18 07:07

Make tyloo great again

2024-05-18 14:03

F in the chat for my Malaysian Monster Hopefully he isn't hanging his boots yet, I need to see more of him in the server !

2024-05-24 06:44

Tyloo still has a team?

2024-05-24 06:57

Just checked their results and what the fuck Tyloo has NO BUSINESS being #35 They have defeated only 1 nondomestic team (sharks) in like the last 1.5 years

2024-05-24 07:38