IEM5 GC Shanghai: Top Players

It's time to see which players were the stars of IEM5 Global Challenge Shanghai and take a closer look at their performances in China. Also, like on a few previous occasions we will conduct a vote for the MVP of the tournament, so read on and take your pick at the end!

The beginning of Intel Extreme Masters season 5 was overshadowed by the very tragic accident of Antonio "cyx" Daniloski, which resulted in mousesports withdrawal from the tournament. Add to that the withdrawals of SK and EG earlier, and it meant that we would see 5 home teams and just 3 international ones. However, the event didn't disappoint at all, providing some great matches even in the group stages, but especially in the playoffs. The most memorable one was between fnatic and Na´Vi, a historic 2-day match in semi-final that couldn't have been much closer result-wise and is certainly a candidate for match of the year.

In total we saw 21 maps played in Shanghai, China at the IEM5 Global Challenge, involving 40 different players. Compared to some of the previous international events, those are considerably smaller numbers, but that didn't stop some of the attendees to show their best. Without further ado, let's see who they are and what they did better than the rest.

Best rated players

7) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
China Qian 'virgo' Jiang China TyLoo.raw 0.79 0.69 1.12

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.79 vs China TyLoo (Semi-final, nuke)

Qian "virgo" Jiang was one of the two key players in TyLoo.raw's unexpectedly successful 2nd place campaign, as they initially didn't even qualify for the event, receiving the invite only after EG withdrew.

He played especially well in the playoffs, rated 1.00+ in each of the 4 maps, showing his best in the crucial semi-final matchup against TyLoo. Jiang had the 4th best KPR (0.79) and was one of the best clutchers winning 4 rounds 1vsX.

6) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Sweden Rasmus 'Gux' Ståhl Sweden fnatic 0.77 0.58 1.15

0 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.63 vs China TyLoo.raw (Group stage)

Rasmus "Gux" Stahl has again proven how much he was missed in fnatic during the first half of this year, as they won their second event in a row with him in the team.

He was very consistent, rated above 1.00 in 7 of 8 maps, while averaging a very solid 0.77 KPR and 2nd best 0.58 DPR. He also stood out in an area he is usually known for – entry kills, as he was the 2nd best in that category.

5) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov Ukraine Na´Vi 0.77 0.59 1.16

3 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.52 vs China 9ez (Group stage)

Natus Vincere have now concluded their hectic schedule for a while, although, the constant travel and change of time zones didn't seem to bother Yegor "markeloff" Markelov much, as his performances remained on a high level in this tournament as well.

Markelov was top rated in 3 maps, the most telling one was in group stage versus TyLoo, where he had an impressive 20 awp kills. As far as awping goes, he was again among the best of the event, with 2nd best awpKPR (0.28) and highest total amount of awp kills (65). Also, unsurprisingly, he was again one of the hardest to kill, having 3rd best DPR (0.59).

4) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund Sweden fnatic 0.79 0.56 1.19

2 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.70 vs China Inner Mongolia (Group stage)

For the umpteenth time Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund finds himself on the list of top rated players, never missing a chance for it in all events his team attended this year.

At this event, he was top rated in 2 maps, although that was against arguably the weakest opponents his team faced. Nevertheless, Alesund was one of the most consistent players at the event, playing well in almost each of his matches, 7 of 8 times rated 1.00+. He was the 5th best fragger of the event (0.79 KPR) and was the hardest to kill (0.56 DPR).

3) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
China Liu 'Savage' Bin China TyLoo.raw 0.80 0.60 1.22

1 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.90 vs China TyLoo (Semi-final, nuke)

The other key man in TyLoo.raw's success was Liu "Savage" Bin whom we would surely like to see more often at bigger events, as this was only the second one the Chinese team attended this year, after Arbalet Cup Asia in late January.

Bin's performances were probably the most pleasant surprise of this event, as he led his team to the final with his great awping, having event-best 0.30 awpKPR. However, his best performance didn't involve the use of the big green when he helped annihilate TyLoo in 2nd map of the semi-final. Apart from having the 3rd best KPR (0.80) and 5th best DPR (0.60), Bin was also the best entry fragger and shared-best clutcher with 5 rounds won when left alone (1 x 1vs1, 2 x 1vs2, 2 x 1vs3).

2) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischuk Ukraine Na´Vi 0.83 0.63 1.24

4 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.99 vs China 9ez (Group stage)

Na´Vi's Sergey "starix" Ischuk is starting to get used to being the star of his team, as this is his 3rd event of the last 5 where he was the top rated Ukrainian.

He was yet again one of the most consistent players, being rated above 1.00 in 7 of 8 maps. He was also top rated in 4 of those, most of all players. The most significant of those performances was probably the one in battle for 3rd place, where he almost singlehandedly defeated TyLoo on the first map. Ischuk had the highest amount of total kills in the event (197, 15 more than second best), although he shared the best KPR (0.83). He was also 22% better rated than his team's average, more than any other player, was the 5th best awper of the event and shared-best clutcher (3 x 1vs1, 1 x 1vs3, 1 x 1vs4).

1) Player Team KPR DPR Rating
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg Sweden fnatic 0.83 0.59 1.28

3 x MotM, Highest rating: 1.75 vs China TyLoo.raw (Final, train)

Voted the MVP of GameGune last week right here on HLTV.org, fnatic's star Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg repeated his impressive form during another triumph of his team.

Another of the most consistent players at this event, Lindberg stood out most against TyLoo.raw, both in the final and in their group stage match, being top rated in all 3 of those maps. Perhaps the most impressive of those was the last map of the tournament, where he had 17 awp kills, more than half of his total 29 awp kills at the event. He was shared-best fragger of the event with 0.83 KPR and he also had 4th best 0.59 DPR. Another great area of his play was pistol rounds, as he was shared-best in that category as well.


Top Awpers

The battle for the best awper of this event was very close, as Markelov had more total kills, but Bin played significantly less rounds and managed to have a slightly better number of awp kills per round. The third best is fnatic's Harley "dsn" Örwall, who showed his best sniping skills in the overtime match vs Na´Vi, with 17 awp kills.

# Player Team awp Kills awpKPR % of kills
1. China Liu 'Savage' Bin China TyLoo.raw 50 0.30 38%
2. Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov Ukraine Na´Vi 65 0.28 36%
3. Sweden Harley 'dsn' Örwall Sweden fnatic 45 0.21 29%
4. China Xue 'GoodRifle' Chao China TyLoo 30 0.16 22%
5. Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischuk Ukraine Na´Vi 38 0.16 19%

Top Pistol Round players

Two fnatic players, Örwall and Lindberg share the first spot as the best pistol round players of the event, so it shouldn't be a big surprise that fnatic was the most successful in those rounds, winning 69% (11/16). The only other team to win more than half of their pistol rounds was TyLoo (64%, 9/14) and it also shows in the stats as they have two players among top5.

# Player Team PR KPR PR DPR PR Rating
1. Sweden Harley 'dsn' Örwall Sweden fnatic 1.06 0.63 1.48
2. Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg Sweden fnatic 1.00 0.50 1.48
3. China Xue 'GoodRifle' Chao China TyLoo 0.93 0.57 1.42
4. China Xue 'xiaoe' Ye China TyLoo.raw 1.07 0.71 1.40
5. China Wang 'karl' Xi China TyLoo 0.86 0.64 1.38

Top Entry-kill players

There weren't really any impressive entry killers at this event, but the one that stood out the most was TyLoo.raw's Bin. Best of the rest were fnatic's Ståhl and another TyLoo.raw's player Wang "prom1se" Nan.

And here are a few possibly interesting stats involving entry kills:

  • TyLoo's in-game leader alex was involved in only 10% of his team's opening kills or deaths, the least of all players, but he was the most successful by winning 67% of those duels
  • TyLoo lost 19 of 23 rounds when karl died first, and 18 of 22 rounds when GoodRifle died first
  • It is a good sign for fnatic when cArn gets the first kill, as they won 21 of 23 such rounds
# Player Team EKpR EDpR EK-DpR Won%
1. China Liu 'Savage' Bin China TyLoo.raw 0.13 0.07 +0.06 65%
2. Sweden Rasmus 'Gux' Ståhl Sweden fnatic 0.13 0.09 +0.04 60%
3. China Wang 'prom1se' Nan China TyLoo.raw 0.12 0.08 +0.04 59%
4. China Bian 'alex' Zhengwei China TyLoo 0.06 0.03 +0.03 67%
5. Sweden Harley 'dsn' Örwall Sweden fnatic 0.10 0.07 +0.03 59%

MVP nominations and honorable mention

Along with the players already mentioned, we should give credit to a couple more that didn't make it past group stage. WeMade FOX's Min-Soo "glow" Kim had the highest rating at the event (1.38) as he really carried his team in the 3 maps they played, especially in the draw against Na´Vi.

Another player who deserves some credit is one internationally completely unknown, Li "forget" Lei from team Inner Mongolia. Even though his team won only 13 rounds in 3 matches, Lei managed to have the event-highest KPR (0.89) and was an astonishing 75% better rated than his team's average. His best performance came in a 16-8 loss to vice-champions TyLoo.raw, where he collected 31 kills for a 1.86 rating.

We have nominated the top player from each of the top 3 teams in the event for you to vote for. So, don't miss your chance to select who you think was the MVP in Shanghai based on what you saw live and from demos or based on your interpretation of the stats.

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That concludes our coverage of IEM5 Global Challenge Shanghai, so as always feel free to leave your opinion on the matter and the reasoning behind your choice in the comments below. You can check out the rest of the stats from GC Shanghai here. Stay tuned to HLTV.org as the next event, WCG Nordic, starts already tomorrow!

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Ukraine xek709
nice
2010-08-04 11:05
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#38
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Ukraine aimmii
STARIX DA BEST
2010-08-04 12:43
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#39
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Sweden ejjz
F0rest! :)
2010-08-04 12:45
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#56
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Ukraine aimmii
starix + f0rest = ?
2010-08-04 13:16
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#58
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Italy Suigetsu
starest? :D
2010-08-04 13:19
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#59
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Portugal syty
+1
2010-08-04 13:23
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#60
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France reakq
I prefer f0rix ;)
2010-08-04 13:24
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#61
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Italy Suigetsu
the problem is the choise between /A/ or wOw~ :D
2010-08-04 13:25
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#68
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Faroe Islands arpegius
f0rixw/O/w x)
2010-08-04 13:54
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Europe qql
n1 :D
2010-08-04 17:29
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Argentina enkou_rst
what's mean '/A/' ?
2010-08-04 16:56
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#114
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Poland stra1ght
Arbalet
2010-08-04 17:16
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Argentina enkou_rst
:l 10x
2010-08-05 14:23
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Singapore aye.
navi
2010-08-08 07:18
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Ukraine aimmii
AHAHA congratulations, the most skillful nickname founded :)))
2010-08-04 13:43
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Ukraine DREv
Starkeloff :D
2010-08-04 14:44
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#107
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Ukraine immortaal
i get! all the skillest players have letter r in nickname:) sixeR, majeR, gtR, staRix, maRkeloff, edwaRd, f0Rest, xhiRoz, fRod, kucheR, immortal.... :D
2010-08-04 17:02
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Netherlands m1ele
idd! GuX, Allen, Delpan, xizt, n0thing, Kapio, Tixo. and the best oldschool players also have a R! HeatoN, Potti, Vesslan, elemeNt, Knoxville, Naikon xD
2010-08-04 17:09
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#136
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Ukraine immortaal
r is most useful :)
2010-08-04 19:01
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Ukraine Akme Lee
KALbI4 MadFan NooK LeX hooch B1ad3 cyx solo sunman tr1p NEO Zeus angel quach cogu
2010-08-04 19:45
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Brazil amark
ALLEN!?!?! WTF NIGGA!! ROFL Delpan, starix, GeT_RiGhT, trace, zonic GG NO RE THX
2010-08-04 21:00
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Ukraine DREv
sk gaming player in 2007 SK | stRiker
2010-08-08 17:00
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Brazil skywalkerd
st4rest
2010-08-04 20:09
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#154
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Brazil amark
STARIX > FOREST
2010-08-04 20:58
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Ukraine Akme Lee
starix da king :D
2010-08-04 19:41
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Netherlands fkn-
Cool review ;d I voted for Savage, cus he was insane @ this tournament.
2010-08-04 11:06
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Ukraine Misha-
f0rest n1
2010-08-04 11:06
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Poland qtas
f0rest as always best :)
2010-08-04 11:06
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RULON | 
Latvia traitor
f0rest 4 sure 2nd tournament hesamazingwtf
2010-08-04 11:07
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Sweden Xoxogossipgirl
f0rest all the way cause hes kiNG!!!!
2010-08-04 11:08
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Faroe Islands Obamanationn
Savage was unreal that tournament .. was the most fun to watch for me.
2010-08-04 11:09
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Portugal beat^f
nice f0rest
2010-08-04 11:11
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Denmark Jelle^
Will there be Dreamteam for WCG Norcic :)))?
2010-08-04 11:11
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I vote f0rest ofc =)
2010-08-04 11:14
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Croatia Mrkiii
GJ forest !
2010-08-04 11:15
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Europe mirrinn
savage was a beast for tyloo.raw
2010-08-04 11:16
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Brazil jvictorfer1
markeloff ever !
2010-08-04 11:17
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Croatia tranceq
My vote goes for f0rest :*
2010-08-04 11:18
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India nemoR
Savageeeee
2010-08-04 11:20
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Greece attaCker^-^
f0rest :DD
2010-08-04 11:20
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Poland Max^^
f0rest will win but voted for Savage because of his all-round performance: AWP, tac-leader and frag machine!! He was very well the father of TyLoo.raw's success.
2010-08-04 11:25
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Russia Ze77a
f0rest n1 DELUSION N2
2010-08-04 11:26
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Russia Ze77a
DSN <3 nice!
2010-08-04 11:27
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Ukraine Vanilla Sky
gj f0rest!
2010-08-04 11:27
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Pakistan legendkiller
f0rest :D for sure ...
2010-08-04 11:29
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Romania VR0k
savage
2010-08-04 11:31
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Sweden celoZ
f0rp
2010-08-04 11:32
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Portugal telmo_d
f0rest of course! :D
2010-08-04 11:41
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Canada zotob
Liu 'Savage' Bin
2010-08-04 11:43
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Denmark Homuz
savage
2010-08-04 11:43
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Denmark JKN-.-
Nice review :)
2010-08-04 11:43
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Savage
2010-08-04 11:47
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vote on savage
2010-08-04 11:48
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Gux
2010-08-04 11:52
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I always thought of forest as an MVP the last 2 years, regardless of his SOMETIMES poor performances.
2010-08-04 11:54
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United States likwidfuzion
This. He is simply the best all around player that has ever touched the game.
2010-08-04 16:35
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Europe qql
+1
2010-08-04 17:32
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f0rest beast.
2010-08-04 12:00
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Portugal beat^f
Go Go lindberg .D
2010-08-04 12:03
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United States putridbeing
Even though he's last in the results so far I had to vote for Savage. As the article already mentioned he was a pleasant surprise to watch. Not to mention every match I saw of him on ESL all I heard was "Savage this, savage that, etc".
2010-08-04 12:16
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Sweden w1tcher
Savage
2010-08-04 12:17
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#36
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United States jns_kodiii
f0rest was the best overall player, but his teammates can back him up with gtr, dsn, and GuX..savage doesn't really have that besides xiaoe the beast.. we expected fnatic and/or Na`Vi in the finals, Tyloo.raw didn't even get an invite to this tournament until EG dropped out..so i'll give my vote to Savage, this guy is a top10 worldwide player imo.. <3 f0rest but dislike fnatic, him and Savage were unreal;, so i didn't really care who it went to..f0rest won the tournament for fnatic, so i guess he deserved it more INVITE Tyloo and Tyloo.raw to more events..the asian kids are nuts and so fun to watch..their aim is unprecedented
2010-08-04 12:25
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Sweden ejjz
Well chosen words, +1 except the part about dislike fnatic. xD
2010-08-04 12:46
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#55
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United States jns_kodiii
haha, i just hate that team for some reason, when they have three unbelievable fraggers and one of the best igl's...just got a grudge against them and #42, that's true i guess, but they should have a chance at being at another big national tournament, and then they could try to solve their visa problem.. they should get an invite and if they can't make it, then they will invite a different team they at least should have the chance, Savage, xf, and GoodRifle are toooo good of players not to be recognized imo to much waste of talent if they can't attend outta country LANS i guess it's the same for FireGamers and CnB, but the Brazilian problem is sponsors..
2010-08-04 13:16
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#62
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Sweden ejjz
Yeah..
2010-08-04 13:30
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Other qbMd.
It's funny. I've noticed that it's always the 3rd paragraph that contains something against fnatic. On a side note, I don't agree with the part "f0rest won the tournament for fnatic". This just shows how much you actually followed fnatic's games during this event. Maybe you should add fnatic to your large 'favourite' list of teams, after all, considering your last five comments...
2010-08-04 14:39
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United States jns_kodiii
hahahhah "large 'favourite' list of teams" first of all learn how to spell, second the only team i rooted for was ex-MYM.swe, i respect fnatic, i just don't like them you don't have a team you dislike? it's funny what a dumb fuck you are considering i watched all of their matches..most people have a team the dislike, so shut the fuck up please, ty :D
2010-08-04 17:41
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#122
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Other qbMd.
I'm sorry? Favourite is a correct spelling. But then again, you are not a bright person. Your brain has a limit, and so won't understand that there are several spellings for different words. It's funny how you go on to talk about my spelling. A sign of weakness. You have nothing to comment about. So you go off topic. Second of all. f0rest was very good in this tournament, but so was gux and gtr. So how did f0rest win the tournament for fnatic? He didn't carry the team, he was only the topfragger and in many cases won some important rounds for fnatic. ESL has uploaded the games from the tournament, so paying their vod site won't do any harm, trust me. What's the point in using profanities? You ought to wash that big mouth of yours, it may earn you a ban.
2010-08-04 17:50
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
Normally I'd delete a post like this, but I will let it stay here so everyone can see you making a complete idiot of yourself, favourite is perfectly correct English, in fact it is what every English person would write, you know, the guys who invented the language and all..
2010-08-04 23:15
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Portugal siplin
hey nomad! where are GG PoV demos ? i will be very happy if u put them quicklyyy
2010-08-05 04:26
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#42
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Poland ninus
the reason why they dont attend is not they are not invented, but it's hard for them to get VISA to leave China
2010-08-04 12:49
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
also, they live kinda far away, so travel costs might be an issue as well...
2010-08-04 13:10
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#52
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Poland ninus
It's China.. come on they got money propobly
2010-08-04 13:11
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m0NESY | 
Russia hameleonus
savage
2010-08-04 12:25
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#40
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Netherlands Melvin_
Na´vi < f0rest just go check his ineye on nuke. There is no player in the world besides f0rest who aims and brains like that -.-
2010-08-04 12:47
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#71
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Argentina sebaxinho
so true, there isn't any player who aims like f0rest, he is unbelievable
2010-08-04 14:09
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#83
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Ukraine DREv
yeah man, but counter strike not only "aim" game, need + logical, and this is a team game..
2010-08-04 14:48
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#92
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United Arab Emirates Csklinton
f0rest is one of the smartest player out there to... Imo f0rest is one of the best players of all time, no doubt about that!
2010-08-04 15:49
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#102
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United States likwidfuzion
I honestly think he IS the best player of all time. No other player has been dominant for a long time as he. And seriously, I don't seen his dominance declining anytime soon.
2010-08-04 16:36
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#109
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France klwN
he is the best player of all time, man. and the crazy thing about him... I think we can all remember how he seemed to have lost part of his talent back in 2008. that could have lasted forever... but it didn't, he became a CS god again, picking himself up, stepping up for his team and getting even crazier and more crucial kills than before. I guess we can really thank Gux and gtr for that, he said it himself. it's the new line-up that give him the will to practice hard again.
2010-08-04 17:08
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#119
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Netherlands Melvin_
Well i think skill - and aimwise neo can be compared with f0rest but where is neo now? f0rest is the best player of all time.
2010-08-04 17:35
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#129
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Portugal wRD55
I don't think that f0rest is the best player of all times. He is one of the best. But the best is SpawN. SpawN has everything that a professional player needs to have, he plays smart, logical, with his team, he has a really strong aim, plays very well with awp. For he is The Legend, the One and the only one. But f0rest is reaching new highs. I think he will play at same level as SpawN.
2010-08-04 18:26
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#151
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France klwN
why do you say it as if it was still true? SpawN once was an amazing player, the best, but he's nothing compared to f0rest at the moment, and f0rest has been way better than him for years now. plus SpawN's golden age didn't last as long as f0rest's, and not to forget that competitive CS has kept becoming harder and harder. being the best in 2003 isn't being the best in 2010 or forever. the only reason people still see SpawN as the best is because he was the best when CS started to become REALLY big, whereas f0rest became the best a few years later. that's it.
2010-08-04 20:19
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#43
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Turkey Taffarel
Savage
2010-08-04 12:50
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#44
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Europe your_destiny
WTF GUX
2010-08-04 12:52
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#45
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Sweden naikje
JAEGARN!
2010-08-04 12:53
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#93
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Ukraine DREv
YEYE
2010-08-04 15:50
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#46
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Europe your_destiny
Who is your IEM5 GC Shanghai MVP? forest ofc.
2010-08-04 12:53
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#47
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Russia OTAKEP
COGU @_@
2010-08-04 12:55
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#152
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Brazil pedro77
legend :D
2010-08-04 20:28
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#48
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Algeria I'm BATMAN
f0rest
2010-08-04 13:03
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#49
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Russia _noName.
f0rest no doubt
2010-08-04 13:07
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#50
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Europe scarface83
f0rest is a hs machine!! I think he has been the mvp for the last 4 or 5 tournaments..
2010-08-04 13:09
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#53
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Belgium oLo-
+1 but i think the 3 last tournaments
2010-08-04 13:13
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#57
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Europe scarface83
yes, but always first in his team..
2010-08-04 13:17
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#54
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Turkey CARNIFEX
Patrik !
2010-08-04 13:14
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#63
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Lithuania Aimx1
f0restwOw~~
2010-08-04 13:38
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#64
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North Macedonia ernald
nice <3 FNATIC :)
2010-08-04 13:42
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#66
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mika | 
Iceland Maximka
f0rest the most stable player ever!
2010-08-04 13:48
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#67
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Latvia h3ro1n
lol? 7) Stats all against Chinese teams :D Savage :) I hope that TyLoo and TyLoo.raw will attend more international events :)
2010-08-04 13:53
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#69
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Albania ROYCE_tb
S T A R i X =)
2010-08-04 13:54
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#70
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China Atlas.H
bbs.pcgames.com.cn/viewpic.jsp?imgUrl=wuji.org.cn/bbs/attachments/100801190039.. edward!! :DDD
2010-08-04 13:55
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#73
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Lithuania DngzR
omg :D :D
2010-08-04 14:12
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#89
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North Macedonia Veky
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2010-08-04 15:31
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#96
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Ukraine DREv
xDDDD
2010-08-04 15:58
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#121
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India nikz.mafia
leaving the perv stuff behind , what piece is that kinzu or xai?????
2010-08-04 17:42
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#173
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China zely
kinzu for sure~
2010-08-05 05:43
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#72
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World spectreX
I voted for savage.If fOrest dies,Gux GTR dsn...all beasts,fnatic still are likely to win that round.But savage one man army.
2010-08-04 14:09
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#86
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Portugal patanisca
+1
2010-08-04 15:13
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#74
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Other kROZEN
anyone but f0rest
2010-08-04 14:14
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#75
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Portugal pedrobarao
f0rest <3
2010-08-04 14:17
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#76
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France panicNT
Patrik Lindberg ! <33
2010-08-04 14:24
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#77
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Serbia schizoid
SAVAGEEEEEEEEEEEE
2010-08-04 14:28
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#78
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Bulgaria FAVOGOD
STARIX!
2010-08-04 14:37
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#81
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United Kingdom meNtal222
f0rest
2010-08-04 14:44
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#82
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Netherlands JANN13
im cheering for fnatic since a long time and im kinda happy they won this tournament. but savage really deserves mvp.
2010-08-04 14:46
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#84
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Europe Grin4
starix ftw!!!
2010-08-04 15:00
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#85
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Portugal patanisca
savage ofc. without him tyloo.raw would be just a bunch of gfn chinese. go savage
2010-08-04 15:13
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#87
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Argentina turtlepower
f0rest without doubt
2010-08-04 15:25
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#88
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North Macedonia Veky
savage for sure!
2010-08-04 15:30
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#90
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Czech Republic backyele
markeloff <3 awp killers 65 good :)
2010-08-04 15:37
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#91
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Lithuania TricK-
Savage no doubt
2010-08-04 15:40
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f0rest FTW.. :)
2010-08-04 15:56
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#95
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Argentina enkou_rst
markeloff 65 awp kills :l damn it!
2010-08-04 15:57
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#97
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Albania roi))
savage was :O !
2010-08-04 16:02
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#98
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Uzbekistan sdfsfdsrthas
f0rest MVP of IEM5 GC Shanghai, second mvp in a road :)
2010-08-04 16:07
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#99
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Algeria razaa
savage without him tylow.raw is nothing i don't know why you vote for forest (yeah we know that he is a very good player and he make a great rate ) but savage deserv mvp :D cauze of his situation (he dont have a <great team>)
2010-08-04 16:31
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#116
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World sneL
stfu, stop saying he deserves it, clearly he doesnt when f0rest fucking dominated everything the whole tournement!!!
2010-08-04 17:31
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#126
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Poland Dub-C
With the backup consisting of 2 another world's best aimers (GuX, GTR) and top 3 awp at this tournament? Yee, not so impressive as this, what Savage did.
2010-08-04 18:18
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#100
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Turkey 3xm
f0rest MVP
2010-08-04 16:30
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FoReSt-dA-KiNG FOREVER BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD
2010-08-04 16:40
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#104
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion
the usual suspects :P except that edward isn't there and I didn't expect virgo to do so well
2010-08-04 16:41
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#105
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Portugal pokkej
" bra " forp ! ahaahahah B)
2010-08-04 16:48
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#108
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FalleN | 
Brazil paumito
This time forest deserves... altough I think savage did as great as him... But last tournament prd was the mvp... -.-
2010-08-04 17:05
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#131
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Singapore Nephalith
That's your opinion. Most people didn't think so. loord, neo, and fox were even better than prd was. Playing more games and winning more important rounds instead of beasting against lesser teams. but the 3 of them were still behind f0rest. (gamegune)
2010-08-04 18:34
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#132
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FalleN | 
Brazil paumito
And here comes YOUR opinion. I've watched all the games, and I can bet my whole money that you didn't watch ANY of CNB games... Yes, I knew that... And about everybody thinking differently, I don't care. People voted for walle on awp of the decade, what proves you guys need to vote for an european always... if forest was chinese or something, you guys would SURELY vote for savage. So...
2010-08-04 18:42
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#135
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Singapore Nephalith
Yes, it's MY opinion. and I'm asian btw, I would love to see an asian player doing well but nope, Savage was good but not as good as f0rest in this tourney.
2010-08-04 18:50
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#159
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FalleN | 
Brazil paumito
I know you are, but still, it's like a new "wave", or how could I say it differently... It's FASHION to prefere european players, as much as players such as solo, glow, savage, fnx, fallen, cogu are/were total MONSTERS, really insane, maybe better than any other player (except for neo, imo), you guys would never admit it, cause they're not european...
2010-08-04 22:01
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#169
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Singapore Nephalith
It's tough I'd say. While the players you mentioned are all good players, they have yet to accomplish something significant that is worthy of a praise (other than fnx and cogu, who most people would acknowledge their strength). You absolutely DON'T have to be a European to be acknowledged as the best player in the world. All you need to do is go out there, mesmerize the audience with your godlike abilities, and WIN something. If you don't win, you'll never be truly solidified as the best player. Take a good look at neo, nobody gave a damn about how good he was until he won WCG'06. Did Sunde and GTR got recognized as best players in the world before they won something? The answer is no. They earned their rights by winning tourneys. Stellar performance + Gold medals (world stage) = People just can't help but acknowledge you. (you can be Asian, African, European, American, or even space alien.. no one gives a f*ck where you're from when you're so darn good) Even haters will. Just like most of the markeloff haters this year. He silenced most of his doubters by winning medals. That said, there is definitely no Euro favoritism nor a 'trend' involved in this sort of thing. I thought KK (a danish player) was the best AWPer in the world, but most people don't think so. I don't blame them because KK has not been winning anything since his Titans days. On the other note, please ignore the HLTV.org best player award because there are many biased opinions. While patriotism is good, it's definitely not helping when it comes to voting because they'll mostly likely vote for their own countryman. This can be avoided if the voting system changed to something similar to FIFA vote system, where people cannot vote for players in their own country. When it comes to this, I am absolutely neutral. I'm a Golden 5 fan but I never let that blind me to see who is the best player/team at the moment. If this were to be implemented, you'd be surprised how little the votes for prd and fox because 90%, if not all of thier votes they got came from their own countrymen. I would bet my own head even prd himself doesn't think he was the best in GameGune. If anything, he would be frustrated that he never take his team all the way to the final after such great showing by him.
2010-08-05 02:59
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#110
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Brazil Antti4T
f0rest!
2010-08-04 17:08
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#112
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Denmark Boltex
what is MotM?
2010-08-04 17:09
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#113
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Europe scarface83
man of the match;).
2010-08-04 17:14
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#167
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Denmark Boltex
ok mr president
2010-08-04 23:48
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#118
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Sweden jahvel~~
No question about who's the best player in the world atm. :)
2010-08-04 17:32
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#123
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World sneL
f0rets have dominatede for 5 straight years! who els have done that?
2010-08-04 17:51
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#124
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Slovakia calam1ty
I voted for Savage... Pretty much a one-man army...give him a better team and he will shine even more.
2010-08-04 18:04
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#150
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Indonesia vyee
"give them more chance and time" I suppose :D
2010-08-04 20:19
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#125
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China pureaim
dont compare other players like starix edward with f0rest.they are quite good,yet not at f0rest's level.f0rest is all alone at that level--the 1st one.
2010-08-04 18:12
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#127
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World djbgg
f0rest,the 1 and only
2010-08-04 18:19
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savage > forest and stfu
2010-08-04 18:26
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#133
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Russia dothaM
grac f0rest ;)
2010-08-04 18:40
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#138
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Sweden hly
Nixon: get DT for the WCG nordic finals that starts tomorrow :)
2010-08-04 19:05
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#145
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Slovakia calam1ty
heh yeah would be cool :)
2010-08-04 19:53
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#165
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
Sorry, we'll be skipping DT for WCG Nordic, there are simply too few matches, we'll have it for e-Stars!
2010-08-04 23:13
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#139
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Iceland alex!
f0rest!
2010-08-04 19:11
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#140
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United States Shionjie
starix deserved to get the winner!!
2010-08-04 19:24
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#148
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Russia OTAKEP
cool story, bro
2010-08-04 20:11
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#149
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Indonesia vyee
I prefer markeloff than starix, then again if you compared with Savage, no doubt Savage deserves more credit than those 2. f0rest MVP? no doubt, his crazy consistent performance made fnatic top again. But, imo Savage deserves the same credit as f0rest or maybe more..? As he is doing harder task than f0rest does at this tourney. Well, whatever... as we all already knew, the winners takes all :)
2010-08-04 20:17
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#153
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Algeria SpaYkeN
f0rest dA KiNG :))
2010-08-04 20:31
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#157
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United States SiA.tRip
niCe
2010-08-04 21:12
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#158
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Denmark madsenricci
f0rest king cogu > markeloff :)
2010-08-04 21:59
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#160
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World tavira
mvp f0rest -.-'' he mvp because the fans vote for he! NOOBS FTW. FOR MY markeloff mvp , because he brought his team back
2010-08-04 22:05
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#161
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World tavira
vs fnatic
2010-08-04 22:05
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#162
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ahl | 
Russia keyS~
starix!!!
2010-08-04 22:17
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#163
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Portugal zipfelq -.-
Savage desarved but funboys voted on f0rest!! SavageGO!!!!
2010-08-04 22:20
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#164
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Poland crue.
Any actions from that's event? HLTV aren't upload on youtube.
2010-08-04 23:10
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#168
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Sweden hannekky
go savage!!
2010-08-05 01:34
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#170
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China csedu
to my point,savage is the best . who not tb? a great player made in china
2010-08-05 03:19
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#171
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Poland Marcines
f0rest
2010-08-05 04:02
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#174
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China zely
savage=f0rest.CN
2010-08-05 05:56
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#175
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Australia Kitten.M
Savage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-08-05 07:51
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#177
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Albania Dida DardaN
Just f0rest ;DDD
2010-08-05 20:48
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#178
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Belgium RAJDAN
f0rest da kinG !
2010-08-05 21:07
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#180
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China Nova''
savage T.T
2010-08-07 12:26
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#182
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China Th1rt3eN
Savage
2010-08-08 08:15
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#184
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Zeus | 
France faithlessz
starix ofc
2010-08-08 17:04
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#185
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United States sikes
starix
2010-08-09 17:55
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#186
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China 706030498
china best~~~~~
2010-08-11 08:49
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