WRTT react to THOR disqualification

WRTT have issued a statement in which they explain their side of the story regarding the team's disqualification from the sixth qualifier for THOR Open.

The Swedish team were earlier on Sunday disqualified from the tournament after questions were raised about the manner in which they had defeated ESC Gaming and Ninjas in Pyjamas.

Both the Polish giants and NiP reported their suspicions that WRTT had cheated to the tournament admins, who saw nothing wrong upon reviewing the demos.

However, Jesper "jw" Wecksell opened a .txt file which appeared to to be an order confirmation of a cheating software while streaming through twitch.tv, prompting the admins to make this decision.

In this statement, issued by Joel "emilio" Mako to HLTV.org on behalf of WRTT, the Swedish team accuse NiP and ESC Gaming of getting preferential treatment from the tournament admins and stress that the .txt file opened by Wecksell was nothing more than "a joke".

"It all started with the ESC game, we cannot say that much about the game, they practiced with Molotovs (which are not allowed in THOR Open) and had never played de_mill_b1 together before.

So those who saw the game know that we won it 16-0, and in my opinion it felt like a gather game, with some close rounds that turned in our favor.

However, during the game they whined, accusing us of cheating. At first, I thought it was a joke, since pasha was joking about it.

But when we realised they were serious, we had, of course, to upload our demos. In the rules, it says MAXIMUM two demos, but since we all know ESC are above the law, they got all five demos. The admin said that the demos were correct, and we advanced to face NiP in the semi-finals.

Before the match against NiP, we were really confident and felt we could be a threat for them. We had a 5-0 lead, I believe, and at the time, I think I can speak for us all five when I say that it really felt we had a chance in this game.

After a lot of rounds that were really close, we kept the lead, and with the chemistry we had yesterday, our confidence after each round won was just getting bigger, so in the end, we won 16-11.

After the game, I asked "Fifflaren" politely on IRC if they needed any demos, but I got no reply.

A couple of minutes later, the admin himself wrote to me, and demanded that we uploaded all demos, and when I say all I mean also those against ESC (again).

It is worth mentioning that NiP and Thor have a collaboration, and since Fragbite hosts the qualifiers, we felt we were discriminated against, since NiP were allowed to participate in the tournament even though they have a collaboration with Thor.

What I mean with is is that no one is allowed to participate in the THOR Qualifiers if they have something to do with Thor.

We thought there was no problem and uploaded all the demos we had. When the admin got them, he said that it was too much for him to handle at the time, so he needed some time to make a decision, thus postponing the final against VeryGames.

We respected that, of course, so we had to wait until today for the answer from the admin, who said that after watching all the demos, he could not find any cheat or anything suspicious.

With that said, we thought, of course, that we had qualified for the final against VeryGames. But then the admin found a .txt on JW's stream that was something like an "Organner receipt". So because JW had a .txt document on his computer, we got disqualified.

That .txt was an old joke, and not even the real receipt, just look at this screenshoot and you will know what I mean :)

In the screen you can see this:
1. The joke .txt that JW created
2. The log JW used to create his joke
3. How a real receipt from Organner looks like. (ty zikkan for print)

As you can see, that really does not prove ANYTHING that jw cheated.

For more information about this "cheating" part, you can read this, because he explained it really well.

We did not have any chance to complain about sozu's decision or even to explain the .TXT, and when we tried, we got no reply.

With that said, you might understand that we got discriminiated against really badly, and down below you can find some screens that show they made us look BAD in the media.

1. Everyone claims that no anti-cheating software was available against NiP, but that was not the case. We wanted EAC, but NiP could not play with EAC, and now we get the BLAME for it????? (SCREEN BELOW)
http://fuskbugg.se/dl/qKxaj8/FIFFLARN%20XIZT.png

Translation: "We cannot play EAC atm, we have to play without"

2. In the "BustMOVIE" you found a sequence in which JW was the "SMOKEHACKER OF DOOM" well, not much to say about it, except that there are always bugs when capturing .avis from demos. (SCREEN BELOW)
http://fuskbugg.se/dl/StCWkB/smokebuggggg.jpg

3. Quoting HLTV.org "Wecksell immediately deleted the VOD from Twitch.tv's website".. The VOD is still out there, and not deleted, so feel free to watch it whenever you want to support :) (LINK BELOW)
http://sv.twitch.tv/jesperwow/b/341116061

With all this said, we would like to thank MIRAA for making this news, everyone that trusts us, and everyone that is trying to help us in all different ways!

On our behalf,

WeRunThisTown (emilio, xelos, jw ,kabom, cozman & Lox)"

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:D
2012-11-19 00:02
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I see what you did there sir!
2012-11-19 00:22
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:26
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Sweden Tonoy
I think the admin was drunk and mixed up .txt with .exe
2012-11-19 00:04
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Poland Lanvin
hahaha
2012-11-19 00:06
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+1
2012-11-19 00:41
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#117
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China Mi3RSH
Where is the "LIKE" button
2012-11-19 00:41
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hahaha
2012-11-19 05:56
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agreee
2012-11-19 13:59
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haha
2012-11-19 16:25
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Interesting
2012-11-19 00:06
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wrtt > world :)
2012-11-19 00:06
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WORD :))
2012-11-19 00:15
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word!
2012-11-19 00:38
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drow
2012-11-19 00:46
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#587
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yea wow they won an online match, cuz that tells us so much about how good they are...
2012-11-19 15:48
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lal
2012-11-19 00:07
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gj
2012-11-19 00:07
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Sweden pheting
someone just download xelos demo and make .avi then =)
2012-11-19 00:08
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Sweden BENDJI
obv triggerbot on him
2012-11-19 00:43
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=)
2012-11-19 02:46
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Brazil tyr-dA-KiNG
Yeah, beacuse NiP and ESC can't be defeated...
2012-11-19 00:08
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Kuwait Friza
everything explained in detail, avi wasn't as dodgey and even i pointed out they could have used organner mobile cheat - which someone mentioned isn't available for CS:GO, and someone said its not 64bit enabled, - emilio explained everything in detail, and sounds pretty legit it's online league/cup people get beat, pretty crappy mistake by admins and harsh on them / pov demo's not even remotely dodgey also ¬_¬
2012-11-19 00:14
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+1
2012-11-19 00:38
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#586
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This is not just "crappy mistake by admins" like you say, this is big vs small team, money vs talent... Few years ago 4gl was best team in Serbia, and they played really good cs. But when you are opposite team, they can talk when they are dead while you lose round for 1 word, stop the match whenever they want and so on. I didn't expected this on high-class tournament.
2012-11-19 15:47
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2012-11-19 00:09
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Germany Dok1
hahaha indeed :)
2012-11-19 00:14
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Sweden sebb7
LOL!
2012-11-19 00:16
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:DD
2012-11-19 00:17
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2012-11-19 00:27
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where is this gif taken from? Can u tell me pls if u know? =D
2012-11-19 00:32
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It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, an American TV show.
2012-11-19 00:35
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negative ghostrider. that kinda looks like mac, and the girl in the yellow is reminiscent of dee in her yellow big bird suit, but it's clearly not them. if you can't tell from their faces, you can also see it has the CW channel logo on the corner, and Sunny doesn't play on CW.
2012-11-19 05:41
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onscreenlol
2012-11-19 00:47
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ah craig
2012-11-19 01:14
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Brazil R4D14710N
Fucking epic HAHAHAHA
2012-11-19 01:48
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:D
2012-11-19 12:13
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ESC pasza: gg come see me on LAN
2012-11-19 00:10
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:D
2012-11-19 00:39
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Czech Republic duke_duke
:D its gonna hurt some1
2012-11-19 02:00
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Poland pharlig
mr.fishboy is clear!
2012-11-19 00:10
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World gREPUS SKA
cheaters.
2012-11-19 00:10
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Germany Dok1
Take that haters. And now get them back into the competition!
2012-11-19 00:11
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:27
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+1
2012-11-19 09:26
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#16
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Canada theRage
Just goes to show you that when you're dealing with people's careers and professional businesses, cheating is not something to joke about. Even if it was just some elaborate joke on JW's part, that's still in pretty bad form I'd say. Childish, regardless of the truth.
2012-11-19 00:11
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its kinda the same thing with zaider... he got banned becus of ankfest gui.... :D (even tho i think zaider did cheat)
2012-11-19 00:15
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#109
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Denmark zikkanht
Or did he? He got banned on the ground of the facebook chat , if im right.
2012-11-19 00:40
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Denmark Wich
hmmm cant remember rly?.... i think its both?..... just remember something about that ankfest gui?... but anyways... still the same as with JW.... that a joke = ban.... and thats just how it is
2012-11-19 01:49
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World uzZzzer
If i am not mistaken people had asked him, in the chat, to show something like that (?)
2012-11-19 00:25
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Europe KAKAROTT0
It was an old joke...
2012-11-19 00:33
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+1
2012-11-19 08:24
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this makes NiP look very bad :)
2012-11-19 00:12
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Sweden davvelito1
+1
2012-11-19 00:12
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Argentina HH Sebax
+1
2012-11-19 00:17
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Russia sloppyjoe69
.
2012-11-19 00:17
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:26
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Brazil beveka
+1
2012-11-19 01:15
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World taylort123
yep. bullshit ban NiP getting their knobs slobbered on along with ESC
2012-11-19 00:12
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:41
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Sweden Tonoy
Bullshit bann, haters gonna hate.
2012-11-19 00:13
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:41
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France V!kteN
How many "+1" did you give today ? :D
2012-11-19 09:12
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Argentina krozer1337
+1
2012-11-19 17:20
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Finland juhits
Go DreamHack, play stronK and problem solved )))
2012-11-19 00:14
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Sweden de_stroyer
Won't happen dude.
2012-11-19 00:15
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United Kingdom NipXe
Well explained.
2012-11-19 00:15
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So you want to play with eac against nip , you think they would cheat rofl? that's fishy in itself to me lol, also eac is easiest anti cheat to bypass.
2012-11-19 00:15
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France boin
Or may be they know they were been suspected hence proposed to play with an anticheat. See all comments saying ``WTF no anticheat'' ...
2012-11-19 00:19
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#45
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Germany Dok1
what? NiP already kinda accused them to cheat before the match so they said they would be ok to play with EAC but NiP declined, nothing more...
2012-11-19 00:19
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Sweden zaihtaM
You're a fucking retard. They just got accused of cheating by fucking ESC and the entire community, and xizt had complained about there being no anticheat in the tournament.. and with EAC being only one click away when you're booking a server from games4u (the provider pretty much everyone oboks from) why wouldn't you get it?
2012-11-19 00:20
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Argentina RoTsap
cant be explained better.
2012-11-19 01:07
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World Kobs
but eac is useless
2012-11-19 01:12
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#189
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World Kobs
true lol
2012-11-19 01:11
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Italy Smileybb[A]
esc giants?maybe in cs 1.6,in Cs:go they are nothing,so please WRTT vs VeryGames in the final
2012-11-19 00:15
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World sauce_is_bed
lol
2012-11-19 00:30
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Russia goodjob
WRTT = nothing in every game
2012-11-19 06:43
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#361
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Europe Naitee
beating ESC 16:0 atleast...
2012-11-19 08:47
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#381
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China firegun
onliner hackers software work,not by their skill. cry all day long wont change a thing they are bannd.
2012-11-19 09:36
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#392
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Europe Naitee
No evidence for "hackers software" has been found yet, thus they have to be found innocent. It may be different in the amazing system that your country has tho. You dont seem to know the meaning of the word "cry" aswell. Look it up bro, you'll be suprised!
2012-11-19 09:56
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Germany yuki
Where is ma popcorn :(
2012-11-19 00:16
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Sweden qweek
2012-11-19 01:16
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#32
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I'm not even gonna state my opinion in this, because when I do, I always end up picking the wrong one :P But I hope this gets sorted out soon, so we won't have another "coloN incident" ... Edit: But I do have to admit that emilio got some good points :)
2012-11-19 00:19
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colon is clear and he always was !
2012-11-19 10:28
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#36
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United States arucarD
Regardless of the excuses handed out from anyone associated with the incident, the principal remains. As "professional" gamer's, you have to conduct yourself as such. If not, consequences can and should be enforced to show what can and what cannot be tolerated. If a boxer is accused of doping, steroids, or anything associated to such, he is put through the ringer with tests to prove or disprove as it stands. If the boxer was to tease any athletic commission by posing with a bottle of steroids with his name on them, it would be detrimental for his career, he would be punished and it would also effect whomever has associated themselves with him. Whether it is a joke or not, a professional should bear such in mind at all times. The same applies to ANY and all professions to be honest. I will not sit here and state cheats were there, what I will say is that there were definitely rounds / shots where things did not seem right. Take any and all information with a grain of salt, at the end of the day we truly do not know what the "truth" is.
2012-11-19 00:17
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Holy shit you beat me to it with the analogy :O
2012-11-19 00:18
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#52
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Sweden julie-
If thats true then why did delpan get allowed in tournaments after all of thoose cheating movies @ youtube? Tell me why-Backstreet boys.mp3
2012-11-19 00:21
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United States arucarD
Because Counter-Strike leagues and or tournaments do not come with 30 million $ paydays as my reference and due to there being different leagues in the first place, a ban from one event does not mean a ban across all. Which is also the case here, the issue with this DQ is that it is an online league, which may cause other online leagues to decide whether or not to accept the excuses that will be made. It is also up to the teams managers to think of a proper course of action of what is to be done. Everyone wants gaming to get bigger and better, but when a disqualification or a ban is enforced, they all cry rivers like Justin Timberlake.
2012-11-19 00:26
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Sweden kiMzki
Dosen't make sense in what her question was..
2012-11-19 01:53
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United States arucarD
I do not know what you mean. If you are stating my response did not make sense, you need to re-read what was written.
2012-11-19 02:15
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Sweden Mattyy
hahaha julia :D
2012-11-19 00:42
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#62
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Germany Dok1
well this text file has been made 4 months ago so it doesen't really have to do with this case. But an old photo of an athletic with a bottle of steroids also wouldn't have good effect on his career^^
2012-11-19 00:24
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#82
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United States arucarD
You are right, it does not have to do directly with this case. Yet as you also re-enforce, it would definitely not help his case either. So there are those fine lines I guess people need to understand or learn to not dance on.
2012-11-19 00:30
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United States dintruce
The analogy in this case is a little different. There's absolutely no harm in posing with a bottle of chewing gum with the name 'steroids' written on it.
2012-11-19 00:33
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#292
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Portugal quacky
Not necesserely true.. If u search a bit there's at least one program that can change those dates and put as u please.. not saying they cheated or anything like that, from what i saw of someone youtube post from them on lan (1.6 but still) they showed quite good skills, so its possible that they just won fairly. Everyone that played on online tournamente against suspicious teams know's what can happen if the other's have "cheating reputation" and they start to win rounds against u, can be the end of ur team with everyone loosing focus on the game and worry more about cheating and bla bla, so seems possible that they really played fair but who knows.
2012-11-19 02:53
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
+1
2012-11-19 04:19
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Argentina HH Sebax
dunno what to say.. :/
2012-11-19 00:17
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jOELZ | 
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Well I suppose what's done is done...I hope both sides learned their lesson though. Why would you have a text "joke" file open during a stream mentioning a hack? That'd be like a baseball player being seen in the dugout during warm-ups wearing a shirt that says "Steroids are awesome." NO. Every sport has its touchy issues; jokes can't be forgiven if it's to progress seriously.
2012-11-19 00:17
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Germany Dok1
He didn't "have the text file open", he opened it because he has been asked on the stream to do it. In the hope to find something suspicious, plenty guys told him in the stream comments to search for "organner", "insercheatnamehere", "cheat", "wallhack",...
2012-11-19 00:26
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#76
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
Okay that clarifies it for me a bunch actually. Well...now I'd say it's quite clear that there isn't much solid evidence. At the same time, as a pro gamer, it'd be best to not have such joke .txt files around on your computer. I recommend that WRTT aren't discriminated against in particular and are given a chance to prove themselves at LAN!
2012-11-19 00:28
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Sweden sebb7
I'll say it again. sozu is a coward, can't stand up to NiP. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. EDIT: Might've been cheat, might have not. But if you host an online qualifier without anti-cheat you can't make decisions like this.
2012-11-19 00:19
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#92
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World uzZzzer
You do know that it is "innocent until proven guilty", right? ^^
2012-11-19 00:32
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#127
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fnx | 
Bulgaria goatse
thats not the case here :D
2012-11-19 00:44
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#140
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World uzZzzer
That is the case everywhere, well, everywhere where people still act within common sense. Innocent until proven otherwise, or proven exactly that, innocent. ^^
2012-11-19 00:50
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#211
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Sweden sebb7
yes, but you don't seem smart enough to understand that it's the other way around here.
2012-11-19 01:21
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#225
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Germany Dok1
So you want to say that they have to be considered as cheaters until they prove themselves as clean?
2012-11-19 01:27
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#231
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Sweden sebb7
In this case, yes. The fragbite admins reviewed the demo for 24 hours and couldn't find anything, just to disqualify them for a joke .txt-file. that isn't even real. Smart of jw? No, but it doesn't prove shit. If this was vs any other teams this would've never happened.
2012-11-19 01:32
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#241
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Germany Dok1
well then read your first comment again ;) I'm with you but then it should be "innocent until proven guilty" and not "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT".
2012-11-19 01:44
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#258
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Sweden sebb7
and if you read my second comment again (#211) maybe you can figure it out aswell. Hint: I wrote it backwards on purpose because it's how this situation is.
2012-11-19 01:56
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#270
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Bulgaria goatse
there are some strange ppl at hltv.org :D
2012-11-19 02:03
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#341
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Portugal chuckyloniah
+1 true
2012-11-19 07:36
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#272
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Germany Dok1
ah well ok seeing it from the perspective of those THOR admins. Thought you just wanted to remind of the common rule "innocent until proven guilty".
2012-11-19 02:07
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#41
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Germany ayken
esc and nip are fucking arrogant kids who cant accept a loss versus people they dont know they should face that they arent unbeatable and shouldnt act like pussys after every online loss especially ESC who are anything but unbeatable in this game
2012-11-19 00:18
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#58
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Mexico iW4t3R
+1 Im just waiting for real players like fnatic and Na´Vi, then we can see NiP not have a chance like SK in the last times in 1.6.
2012-11-19 00:23
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#74
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
NiP cant lose the skill now. NaVi should play 24/7 to have a good chance against them. Also F0rest and GeT_RiGhT are true talents at every game.
2012-11-19 00:28
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#220
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Italy cele87
get_right and forest are really talent, but the 2 guys from CSS who are? and also xizt is a real talent... and in game you don't need only talent mate. with sk lineup they lose against 4-5 teams in a raw
2012-11-19 01:25
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#166
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f0rest | 
Europe tumorjacka
dreamer
2012-11-19 01:03
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#500
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Denmark jazu
Real players like fnatic? They just recently started playing GO. With all respect for the fnatic team - in my opinion the players from NiP are far superior to the fnatic team. MysaN wasn't the only one playing without mistakes. Someone should def. watch this xelos guy vs ESC.
2012-11-19 12:03
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#342
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Portugal chuckyloniah
i wont say that , but ,they(ESC) were a little bit bastards. But, if they think they are cheating, they have all the right to ask pov/demos from wrtt. i saw the vid with r_draw... and didnt seem they were cheating but. GL both teams
2012-11-19 07:38
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#366
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Finland aslak_
tell me a single professional team who can accept a loss against players they don't know :D
2012-11-19 08:53
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#386
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Hungary Tibbze
good one! hehe
2012-11-19 09:44
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#663
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Germany ayken
well cs:go is almost a new game so professional teams should accept losses against teams they dont know till this date if it would be 1.6 I agree with u - but it isnt
2012-11-20 19:44
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#42
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United Kingdom AnDEh92
GO LAN and settle this
2012-11-19 00:19
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#279
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Poland menace89
What is that going to settle? LAN is very emotional and involves mind games... NiP and ESC have more LAN exp in their right testicle than all of jespers team combined. They would probably lose simply because of nerves, lack of LAN experience and such.
2012-11-19 02:25
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#384
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China firegun
then they can just hack online like other kids in us cafe,iv seen a lot of them in cafe near my collage.
2012-11-19 09:40
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#562
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Hungary vAf
go back to play cs:o if u don't know nothing about online and offline experience.
2012-11-19 14:41
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#43
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Denmark kozalityeah
That just makes NiP look really bad, roflmao! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
2012-11-19 00:19
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#46
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Finland joona
even from 1.6 they were very strong on internet, i think they kinda rushed the jugdement here:)
2012-11-19 00:20
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#327
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Serbia TRIGYYY
actually thats the point...
2012-11-19 05:59
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#47
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
Cheating or not, WRTT got the point here, there is 0 proof that any player has cheated, and that, my friends, no cs titan is going to change, quit bitching :) PS: better prove yourself at lan or PASZA's biceps are going to pay you a visit ahah
2012-11-19 00:20
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#59
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
No proof? You must be that blind not seeing a cheaters movement and prefireing.
2012-11-19 00:23
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#209
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Portugal Schypher
You're talking about a game that is still bugged as shit, most of the times you see enemies blinking right in front of you before they even appear, or like a simple HE can make enemies inside a smoke visible. There is no proof, how can you tell if he is wallhacking? God knows how many times have I shot randomly at a smoke and hit someone. There are 0 proofs that corroborate your anger, while he has evidence that proves he couldn't be cheating, or at least, using that cheat. hltv.org/news/9547-wrtt-out-esc-to-face-.. The real problem here was how the admins dealt with the situation. He was disqualified for having a document that doesn't even proofs he owns an account on that service. How many more COLON's will we have to deal until people start to look at things before judging.
2012-11-19 01:19
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#218
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Germany Dok1
could you quickly tell me about the coloN story?
2012-11-19 01:24
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#232
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Portugal Schypher
This pretty much sums it up hltv.org/?pageid=135&userid=142857&blogi.. After that, people started trashing him saying he hacked or that he was an onliner- even while playing clanbase matches on lan-, without one single concrete proof that he hacked. A couple of months later, at Copenhagen games, he played like a beast and was the best player at the tournament. hltv.org/?pageid=183&eventid=875&gameid=..
2012-11-19 01:34
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#388
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China firegun
no ,even if he can play great does not give him the right to cheat,before that settle you cant call colon clean or hacked,I think people have right to judge by the demo that hacker record,or even from hltv or gotv,no matter what they say or how well they play afterward, people are not blind,you logic is wrong.what you'r saying is like your score is 5-12 means you didnt hack,what is the logic for that, if you hack you hack,nothing to do with your score or skill,only thing to do is the demo they think you hack. ps:even some ppls think colon didnt hack,some still believe he did.So dont say he didnt hack or he did yet since you dont know the truth and judging only by his skill.You can believe that but you cant cal him that, it's like we call him hacker is not fair. hackers will get punished im telling you,god knows.
2012-11-19 09:48
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#609
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Italy VoHiYo
Wow that's a stupid argument, you're saying you should judge him before you know if he cheated or not, but you're calling him a cheater.
2012-11-19 17:11
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#660
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Poland Topbunna
I dont think you realise how many pro's cheat or cheated during online matches at some point in their career. The fact that he is a beast on LAN dosnt mean he couldnt have been cheating, its less likely that he was but its no rule. I think that WRTT shoul attend LAN to show that they actually have the skill set. For me its too much to believe in, they suddenly turn into pros during an online tournament with no anty cheat, how convinent.
2012-11-20 10:52
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#48
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Czech Republic stxCZE
Wow gj emilio putting all this together. Applause for saving that EAC off conversation now Xizt looks like an idiot.
2012-11-19 00:20
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#61
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
And why? Because its all correct what the cheater said because it sounds legit? What did you smoke bro?
2012-11-19 00:24
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#371
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Netherlands KUBUSPATS
Dude stop bullshitting. You can't be a 100 % sure unless u were standing next to them while playing the game. Stop making nonsence comments with nl flag.
2012-11-19 09:06
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#393
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China firegun
i agree,but what emilio said here is also making no differences. this proves nothing about their demo,if admin and some top pros think they hacked after checking the demo i think they got reason,and i dont think admin will ban without a reason if they didnt make sure that this team hacked.In year,ESC(former pgs,wicked,again) always win or lose in a frankful way,if they think other team play better than them they will take that lose but if they lost to hackers they will have to say sth,and each time when they said other team hacked,they got evidence,even navi ghost they said that to public ,that team have my trust on this case, they wont blame a internet unknown team hacking if they are not sure. So i rather trust neos words over these kids excuse saying that it's only joke, if you are saying it's a joke means something happened,you are trying to make it looks nice, only dumb kids will believe your word. gl with this ban
2012-11-19 09:57
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#412
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Netherlands KUBUSPATS
I understand what you are saying. but you can also look at it from another perspective. These guys won one of the first go tourneys in their region. Esc just started playing this game. and like they said they havent played that map a lot. wrtt was also pretty good at 1.6 as far as i know. go is a random game in which everyone(allmost) can win in an online event. im not saying they didnt cheat. I just don't think they have enough evidence to just dq em. And neo's new to the game too. no point in just believing what he says.
2012-11-19 10:15
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#50
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Sweden mdna
If it was a joke from him it wasn't a good joke at all so dumb he just lost all the respect because he was outstanding together with Xelos in both matches.
2012-11-19 00:21
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#51
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
lol, they didnt realised it was too obvious. i mean the commenator himself said "oh that was weird" when a player followed Fifflaren through the wall (rizc luckily had x-ray on). Too much proof gaylords, just making yourself look like complete idiots in front of the whole CS communitiy. I hope you will get banned from every tournament you filthy cheaters. Burn in hell cya
2012-11-19 00:21
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#343
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Portugal chuckyloniah
grab demos from your pcws, then go see them with r_drawothermodels . You will realise, that you are tracing the guys trough the wall , more than you imagine :) and you arent hacking, with x-ray/r_draw all seems to hack
2012-11-19 07:44
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#396
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China firegun
not really,i get your point but only some time may make it looks like walling but not like that much of all time,you should watch that demo before you come here, its very clear that some of them used wall .
2012-11-19 10:00
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#507
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Denmark jazu
I agree. I have watched countless of demos with xray on, and yes - sometimes it looks like people are tracing through the wall. Watching the VOD of WRTT is another thing though. Its been a long long time since I have seen anyone playing so good. They rarely made any wrong decisions. At all. So fucking flawless. If MysaN and xelos wasn't cheating in those matches, especially the one vs ESC - then fuck me - im off to playing Quake again.
2012-11-19 12:11
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#53
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Sunde | 
Venezuela zoe`
More drama for your moamma!
2012-11-19 00:22
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#55
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North Macedonia EXTOL[t]
Sad..
2012-11-19 00:22
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#56
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Sweden zaihtaM
I don't trust blingbling for a second, but this stuff makes sense and I guess jw is clean. Maybe NiP and ESC should realise that it's the game that's wrong, not their opponents? You knew from the beginning that you play a game with a smaller skillcap, ofcourse there will be upsets (especially online).
2012-11-19 00:22
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#66
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
Wait a minute, WTTR were never seen on any LAN tournament nor online and now beating the very best team atm, NiP? They lost like 1 game and now loosing against random swedes. Hello wheres the fucking logic itself behind? Watch the fucking VOD pls
2012-11-19 00:26
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#84
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Sweden zaihtaM
AFAIK jw has been on two LAN's in 1.6 (Gamex and intel, won both), and one norwegian lan in GO (won that one aswell)? When WRTT got disqualified from EsportSM, kab0m was one of the few guys that had a clean config, everyone knows emilio is legit and cozman I have no idea who he is. Xelos was at esportsm and he was bad, Lox had some shady stuff at his config at esportsm so I wouldn't trust these guys, but my point stands, the game has a low skillcap and it's online (lurppis for example complained that it was a small skill gap online in _1.6_ already, a game that has an insanely high skill cap) - dont be fucking surprised, it's your fucking fault that you go in the to the game from the first beginning. They went in to GO thinking they'd get easy cash playing a shitty and easy game, to bad they didn't realise that it's shitty and easy for everyone else aswell, enjoy losing to other semiteams online in the near future aswell NiP.
2012-11-19 00:31
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#345
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Portugal chuckyloniah
while thoose semi-teams dont go to lan (nip and so on are the best). When they start to win some lans (get exp and so on) and kicking big teams ass. we will see forest,neo and so on, training for real, to be the bests, like they practiced on 1.6. until then, they are too relaxed , they know that on LAN they have more exp. Online they are cheaters, when they start to win on Lans, will see what is theyr excuse.
2012-11-19 07:49
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#91
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Germany Dok1
never seen on any LAN tournaments nor online? make some research. Ok, I'll help you a bit: youtube.com/watch?v=EV576IMSf0o
2012-11-19 00:32
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#130
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fnx | 
Bulgaria goatse
and where is the logic in university math
2012-11-19 00:46
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#85
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Denmark zikkanht
Well, the thought behind it could be that they did lose to a mix team, and NiP did believe they _were_ the best. However, ESC could do it because they didn't know who their opponents are?:)
2012-11-19 00:31
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#98
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Sweden zaihtaM
Hey cheater, funny that you where the one to provide the SS of the organner receipt hahah. Still doing onedeags midair from mid inferno all the way to down slope. So what if it's a mix team, the game is all about grenades and aim anyways, there's no depth to the game so there's more room for lesser players to beat "better" (fifflarn and friberg lololol) and NiP is also a pretty young team.
2012-11-19 00:34
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#105
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Denmark zikkanht
You never know when you need it ;-). NiP might be a "young" team, however they do have more strats to pull out of the hat, then a mix team. But yea, as a mix team you can aim them out
2012-11-19 00:37
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#141
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Sweden BENDJI
so you mean they have better aim than the NiP players?
2012-11-19 00:51
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#149
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Denmark zikkanht
Some of them, yeah.
2012-11-19 00:55
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#572
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Sweden BENDJI
Hope you are kidding me? You can clearly see that 1 of them used triggerbot during the games.
2012-11-19 15:24
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#576
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Denmark zikkanht
Hahahahahhahaha, lol. So, you say one of them is using triggerbot - Can you prove it? _NO_, because they're _NOT_ using it
2012-11-19 15:29
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#581
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Sweden BENDJI
The guy I am talking about were real shit 3 weeks ago. Now he is just running around with triggerbot. You know that it is very hard to spot things like that? With smooth and recoil help it looks like you have naturally insane aim, so it is very easy to trick spectators & demoviewers. People who have seen triggerbot/aimkey before knows some typical things how it looks like. I can assure you that this guy I'm talking about is cheating.
2012-11-19 15:38
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#604
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Denmark zikkanht
So.. You do believe in your own words. That's okay! But can you prove it?
2012-11-19 16:36
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#653
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Sweden BENDJI
Only way to prove it is to look through his computer or wait until he busts himself. I can't look through his computer, so no, I can't prove anything.
2012-11-20 00:08
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#579
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Sweden wmb
BENDJI, WRTT boys are one of the best individual players in sweden :) they are really skilled believe me
2012-11-19 15:31
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#582
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Sweden BENDJI
I have played against all of them, not worthless, but not good either. :) jw is the best player in that lineup they played with though.
2012-11-19 15:37
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#584
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Sweden wmb
ive beaten jw at 1.6, the same with xelos and lox. they arent bad ofc but they are very good at CS:GO and its a new game so
2012-11-19 15:42
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xelos > jesperw
2012-11-19 17:46
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#625
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Sweden lidda;D
Thing is, Jesperw isn't the one that cheated against ESC and NiP. If you really study the demo you will see that xelos clearly cheated. He used triggerbot.
2012-11-19 19:33
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2012-11-19 19:38
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#633
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Sweden BENDJI
ye, I hope you know why.
2012-11-19 20:00
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2012-11-19 20:03
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#404
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China firegun
lol no you dont need to aim them out, you just need a good wall to bypass the basic EAC anti cheats,cause you can see that they are not afraid of using EAC to play vs NIP,so i dont think they need a complex program,just sth enought to pass eac. so many ass coding these hacks,ruin this game.
2012-11-19 10:05
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#284
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Lithuania Kindziulis
Bla bla bla....
2012-11-19 02:31
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play a game with a smaller skillcap, ofcourse there will be upsets (especially online). +1111111111111
2012-11-19 08:37
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#60
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Sweden Tonoy
They have had the demos for over 24 hours now and havnt find any cheat. That says it all!
2012-11-19 00:24
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#69
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Germany vendir2k
cheaters c:
2012-11-19 00:26
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#72
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Belgium furre69
the only fair thing to do now is a rematch WITH anticheat
2012-11-19 00:27
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#78
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Netherlands Revl1sw0w~
Yes, then loosing 16-4 and look themselves like complete morons.
2012-11-19 00:29
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#148
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Belgium furre69
then atleast ESC and NiP can prove they were right
2012-11-19 00:55
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#287
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Europe hest1
that wouldnt prove anything, just because they won against them once doesnt mean they can do it again
2012-11-19 02:34
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+1
2012-11-19 08:38
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#97
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Germany Dok1
won't happen, so the only fair thing would be a final against VeryGames.
2012-11-19 00:34
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#115
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Sweden d9lk
i vote for this
2012-11-19 00:41
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#75
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Iceland CAZT :]
I must say as i posted around 10-15 replys to wmb1 that jw was cheating, that i might be wrong. After reading this, and looking over a demo from jw, that he might be clean. So almost everything i said here i take back.: hltv.org/forum/207998-mysan-jw-jesperw-c..
2012-11-19 00:29
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#96
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Denmark zikkanht
When it comes to who's cheating, wmb1 knows something. 9 out of 10 times he's been right, that say's something.
2012-11-19 00:34
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#118
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Sweden zaihtaM
That's because he's the one who sends the cheats. You can't trust him tho because he'll lie ocassionally if a player is clean or not because of personal agendas (he likes/dislike the person).
2012-11-19 00:42
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^ this
2012-11-19 08:39
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#434
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Sweden wmb
Can you seriously point out ONE player you know that have gotten cheats from me? Really, because I'm getting really fed up with your bullshit. Almost in the sense that I'm soon to deal with you personally. I've never sent and will never send a cheat to anyone. I'm tired of repeating myself to you because you clearly don't understand. Been cheating once on games with no anticheat or meaning, doesn't mean that you distribute nor give around cheats. It means that you once tried a cheat. And to be fair with you; you didn't even play CS when I was trying dem haxz. And they were no privhaxz or w/e people use these days, simple plain old opengl32.dll multihack --
2012-11-19 10:55
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#455
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World Fr3de
Cool story bro
2012-11-19 11:25
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#459
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Sweden wmb
To mention this, if you are the guy behind Frag.se - then why the fuck havent you guys launched the portal yet? Why are you even commenting? Setting up false promises to the scene and then bailing on it? Do you've any ideas on what consequences Frag.se had on the scene? IF frag.se would have launched, the scene would be much better. Solving things that bottlenecks players usually, with real-time stats and overview of games. Plain sorrow for you who used your own name to start something as promising as frag.se would have been. RIP CS-scenen.
2012-11-19 11:31
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#465
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World Fr3de
2012-11-19 11:36
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#469
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Sweden wmb
Yeah ruining the scene with empty and false promises, that's a cool story. Don't know whats more sad, a 20+ person using memes to use as reasoning behind a comment or people who lie about relevant things. Just knock yourself out with those memes, couldn't careless to be fair if you comment or not. I just wanted to state that your an idiot just like zaitham because even you talk about shit you don't know of.
2012-11-19 11:38
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6 replies
#471
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World Fr3de
2012-11-19 11:38
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5 replies
#473
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Sweden wmb
Wow, childish behavior detected. Using memes is so 2007. Hang yourself and include zaitham in your hanging party please. The world couldn't care for both of your deaths.
2012-11-19 11:39
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4 replies
#475
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World Fr3de
2012-11-19 11:40
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3 replies
#478
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Sweden wmb
Last and least comment. Please tie a rope to end your meaningless life. Because you has given the world more harm than good. Lieing about creating communities for the better purposes for those who wishes to show their capacity to the world. Sickens me how people can live with lies and false promises overall. Don't you feel any stomach pain at all for luring over 2000 gamers in Sweden? Not only are you a fraudlent moron, your also mentally handicapped using memes in your comments. Only retards who don't know how to argue or discuss with others use memes as a defensive stance. Just do as I previously said; tie a rope to your neck and end your meaningless life.
2012-11-19 11:43
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2 replies
#481
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World Fr3de
2012-11-19 11:45
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1 reply
Inethero =)
2012-11-19 12:24
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#580
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden zaihtaM
Please deal with me personally. Also, I must ask you. Are you at the stage in your sickness where you actually are starting to believe that all your lies are true?
2012-11-19 15:33
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#77
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World Fr3de
A team with a bunch of old cheaters, convincingly beating the indisputed world champions. One of the worlds most experienced and skilled players, Neo, and the rest of his team, who has played thousands of games with the best teams and players and experienced everything in Counter-Strike, notices after only a couple of rounds notice that something is not quite right. Who would be so stupid to create a "joke document" where he is litterary framing himself for cheating? And do I have to mention that this guy have been caught cheating before? Everyone who watched the game saw that there was something really wierd going on. I'm positive that xelos in WRTT was cheating as well for that matter. If something seems to good to be true, It usually is. Sorry to burst your bubbles.
2012-11-19 00:28
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15 replies
#87
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Sweden badboll
1+
2012-11-19 00:32
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#88
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United States Tarsus
+1
2012-11-19 00:32
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#110
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Sweden zaihtaM
It's a new game as you CS:GO lovers love to point out, also this new game has a skill cap that is so much lower - random results will happen.
2012-11-19 00:40
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9 replies
#134
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World Fr3de
That have to explain all the earlier "random results" against NiP with their 99% win ratio. Oh, wait... The lack of upsets in every major tournament and consistent rankings is also worth mentioning. This is not about the game, it's about WRTT. Not interested is discussing anything else.
2012-11-19 00:47
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8 replies
#150
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Sweden zaihtaM
Lan != online. Lurppis complained about the skillgap being low online in 1.6 already, and the skillcapdifference in 1.6 compared to go is almost as big as our universe.
2012-11-19 00:56
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7 replies
#192
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World Fr3de
Cats != dogs. Couldn't care less. Stick to the topic.
2012-11-19 01:11
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6 replies
#201
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Sweden zaihtaM
It isn't offtopic, I mentioned a thing you forgot to think about before making your judgement.
2012-11-19 01:15
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5 replies
#210
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World Fr3de
Unless you're some kind of mind reader I highly doubt that.
2012-11-19 01:20
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#221
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Sweden zaihtaM
If you thought about it, why do you still write dumb shit then? ESC's experience doesn't matter that much in a new, easier and more random game.
2012-11-19 01:25
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3 replies
#226
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World Fr3de
Do I really have to write couldn't care less again? I simply don't value you opinions, bye!
2012-11-19 01:28
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2 replies
#228
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Sweden zaihtaM
Yeah Im used to read dumb people responding me so thank you for sparing me for once.
2012-11-19 01:30
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1 reply
#230
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World Fr3de
Couldn't say it better myself.
2012-11-19 01:31
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yeah xelos is more suspicious compare to jesper
2012-11-19 08:40
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#476
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Poland Swapz
+1 finally well said
2012-11-19 11:41
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#499
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India Saske ^--^
Abt xelos , Admins did watch the demo of all five players and didnt find anything suspicious!.. And Ur saying xelos cheated based on wat?
2012-11-19 12:02
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#79
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Norway prb-
and after this sozu fb won't say anythingor make a statement and will let VG-NiP to play the final etc etc etc worst admin i ve seen in a lot of time. Anyways there is pretty good points but i still think they cheated as snokz, BEND and many others do.
2012-11-19 00:30
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#143
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Sweden BENDJI
who cheated? xD
2012-11-19 00:52
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17 replies
#467
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Norway prb-
You?
2012-11-19 11:37
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16 replies
#472
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Sweden wmb
You and your whole thing about BENDJI and snokz. GET OVER IT SERIOUSLY
2012-11-19 11:38
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#477
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Norway prb-
wut? They don't cheat also...don't make me laugh please.Let's see at DHW if im wrong k?
2012-11-19 11:43
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#479
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Sweden wmb
It's not about them cheating, you've been complaining on BENDJI for _WEEKS_ I've never seen anyone moan so much about a single player in my entire life. Really, it's like seeing someone all day wishing he was just like him.... Do you fancy BENDJI or snokz?? If so, I can arrange you autographs and even a meeting with BENDJI.
2012-11-19 11:44
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#480
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Norway prb-
Fine, do it...lets destroy faces bro.
2012-11-19 11:45
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12 replies
#484
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Sweden wmb
Honestly, I don't know BENDJI but I do believe he bashes you both in-game and outside the game. For the fact that your just a simple dane and he, some bosniac, I've some preconceptions that he might be experienced in beating people up.
2012-11-19 11:47
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#487
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Norway prb-
"He bashes you in-game" stop jk. He is Nico Bellic i assume.
2012-11-19 11:49
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10 replies
#489
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Sweden wmb
Hold on a minute. I just have to take out the trash. I mean prb- Can you please inform me who you are? Because I happen to recognize the nickname prb but not with a danish flag. He's norweigan and he's awful at 1.6 - if that's you then i'll laugh and cry til my eyes becomes sore. Dreadful as you might be, moaning about matches on the internet. Couldn't careless, it was just one match in BENDJIs life and you happen to cry all over it on a site where he barely is active. Get something else to do in your sparetime instead of thinking and saying what other people might be doing.
2012-11-19 11:52
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#492
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Norway prb-
hahahahaha stop it please because its your nickname WHO NOBODY recognise so please stop defending your shit friends and get the fuck out. Oh...isn't he active? 3 months ago he was a worldest at home but now he doesn't play or isn't active...oh please stop making me laugh. My last comment to you since you are awful and you don't deserve more words.
2012-11-19 11:56
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#504
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Sweden wmb
You don't even have a player stats on HLTV.org ? What are you? A sauser? Yeah I assume you were a sauser. Get a life and reminding you this: I atleast achieved things too online, why don't you hate on me? I did far worser stuff than losing to the best team in Denmark? HAHAHA YOU SEEM MAD BRO, EAT A CHILLY OR SOMETHING ON UR WAY OUT
2012-11-19 12:06
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#538
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Norway prb-
It's called losing login details. I also achieved more things online and LAN than you but keep failing haha.
2012-11-19 13:29
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#542
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Sweden wmb
Ok saucer, what LANs and accomplishments online have you done? xDdd
2012-11-19 13:36
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5 replies
#575
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Sweden lidda;D
Actually BENDJI did cheat..
2012-11-19 15:28
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#634
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Sweden wmb
BENDJI probably cheated when he was sourcenoob 14 years old. BUT HE DOESNT CHEAT NOW YOU IDIOT
2012-11-19 20:00
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2 replies
#658
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Sweden lidda;D
Actually he still cheats. You talk like you know personally when you didn't hear anything about him 'til some weeks ago.
2012-11-20 09:48
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#662
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Finland DEMONI
bendji did cheat in css 100 % so why he wouldn't cheat here..
2012-11-20 13:01
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#627
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Norway prb-
Are you serious? Please stop it.
2012-11-19 19:40
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#80
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France Splatch
I dont know if he's clean or not, but tbh the .txt "joke" was one of the stupid move i have seen.. I mean, when you play vs Pro and know you have bad reputation because of a game, why make a stupid move like that ? Of course you will have problem with that after it..
2012-11-19 00:29
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10 replies
#90
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United States Tarsus
well said
2012-11-19 00:32
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#102
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Germany Dok1
this text file is 4 months old dude, it has nothing to do with this matches.
2012-11-19 00:36
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5 replies
#398
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Romania xPAz
So what? You still have to be retarded and do this move? What you are saying means nothing.
2012-11-19 10:01
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4 replies
#402
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Germany Dok1
People wanted him to open the file. What do you think would people think when he would habe refused opening it? Obviously people would have thought there's an obvious proof in it...
2012-11-19 10:05
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3 replies
#413
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Romania xPAz
Ok. Some fans are saying to LeBron James 'hey dude..please would you take a piss on the court, we love you if you do that!!!' He would do that or? Take a brake from a bullshit and defending someone who does not simply deserves it. He was an idiot by doing something stupid. Think outside of the box, don't be subjective just objective.
2012-11-19 10:16
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2 replies
#433
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Germany Dok1
You really can't compare that, lol. He was just streaming to proof that he doesen't cheat and habe the viewers the chance to have a look at every file on his PC. Actually that's quite a good move of you ask me... You could tell yourself 'don't be subjective just objective'. Fact is that there's no proof and they should get the rights to play against VeryGames.
2012-11-19 10:48
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#470
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Romania xPAz
The thing is i don't give a penny on this situation, or even who is playing versus who. But it's just hilarious how does this work around here. Show a text file and be suspected of cheat and then say that it was a joke/it was schneerer, or whatever is his name, or it's a proof that he doesn't cheat. Really? I might not bite what you said here. A good move to show something like cheat bypass? I think i live in a parallel universe where players should not even think about idiot jokes, like those. Mhm, that's ok with me. Tbh he really is a idiot by doing all those things. But meh, if you show yourself at a crime scene with the killing object, even you were just a witness and picked the whatever, of course you have to give massive explanations. But what did he? Nothing.
2012-11-19 11:38
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#103
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World Mwjk13
I don't even get what's so funny about having that file on his computer anyway...
2012-11-19 00:37
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2 replies
#177
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
+1 :D
2012-11-19 01:06
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+1
2012-11-19 08:45
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#81
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Sweden badboll
Cry baby cry. Cheaters
2012-11-19 00:29
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#86
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United States Tarsus
Still not buying it, still really fishy. Regardless, if this is just a "joke", why would you even do that? Who is dumb enough to make a text file like that and then broadcast it to the world, especially if (according to wmb1) it is your dream to be a pro player. Stupid move and unfortunately you sometimes pay the consequences. I think whether they cheated or not is a moot point at this stage.
2012-11-19 00:32
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1 reply
#99
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Denmark zikkanht
Attention, and that's what he now have been given.
2012-11-19 00:34
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#95
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Finland waltsu
lol that team should be banned for ever for stupidity. get the fuck out
2012-11-19 00:33
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#101
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World kotkotN
Correct decision by admins to ban these fishy braindead onlinerkidzs who wouldnt play nearly as good at LAN, Yeah nearly instadie in spawn vs superior teams would be the case. Attend the BYOC - make it into the main tournament - win DreamHack Winter with equal pure dominationstyle like you put up yesterday. We are "waiting". These kidzs took an ugly shortpassage trying to reach mighty fame, but now just in dirt like cheating nonamers forever, and ever, until these random kidzs will achieve something when "world" is watching with thye all seeing eyes so to speak - yeah offline. And everybody knows it - this will not happen as they told their team did not even "felt ready" for the DH BYOC. Hhahahhahhaa ... !!
2012-11-19 00:36
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#112
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Portugal fredytrixi
Ban and deserv t be vac ban aswell fcking trash kids
2012-11-19 00:41
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#114
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United Kingdom shazehhh
ESC cant handle being rolled by bunch of "no namers"
2012-11-19 00:41
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2 replies
#126
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 00:43
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1 reply
#205
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Portugal cdsj
+1
2012-11-19 01:17
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I do appreciate the post from emilio, but he's legitimate and always has been as far as I know. I'd much rather see a post from xelos or Jesper, to see how they might defend themselves.
2012-11-19 00:43
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#122
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Russia Iwanowitsch
You self owned, why you had a txt file this is nooblike, the same shit like in ESL if u had a file and named so. It is an joke or not, that make no sense for organizations.
2012-11-19 00:43
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#123
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Sweden d9lk
OK if we exclude that smokeround there's still couple of rounds which are very suspicious. Something to say about xelos tracing enemy through the wall? the .txt is probably fake, yes
2012-11-19 00:43
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2 replies
#137
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Korea calerop
They said 'to see the left part of the screen'. It makes sense. And a big coincidence.
2012-11-19 00:49
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#347
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Portugal chuckyloniah
if you look at the left side when you are going balcony , you can see if the guy is on the boxes . You can see hes foots.
2012-11-19 08:00
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#129
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World Kobs
that what happen with onliners, cheater or not .. you have to prouve what you worht in lan to be taken seriously
2012-11-19 00:45
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#132
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Korea calerop
>Admins said 'no proof of cheating' >Eliminated by a .txt file. GG THOR.
2012-11-19 00:46
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3 replies
#144
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Sweden badboll
Think again. They are known as cheater before. Have never been good in cs. They won't go to LAN. And the destroy two top team in CS GO. Shall i say more?
2012-11-19 00:53
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2 replies
#164
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United Kingdom shazehhh
*1 top team
2012-11-19 01:03
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#610
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Italy VoHiYo
Won't go to LAN? Do you even know the line-up? They've won LAN's.
2012-11-19 17:20
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#135
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Sweden dOzErFF~
FREE JESPERw
2012-11-19 00:49
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1 reply
ahah
2012-11-19 00:57
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#136
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Sweden Mattyy
As i have stated before, its a new game and ESC is new too it they have played alot less then WRTT on this game. In the NiP game you could see that WRTT played with huge confidence after beating the "nonamers of CS:GO ESC(cs1.6 old legends)". They obviously felt on top of the world. And for the record making "bust movies" without knowing how to take out the clips out is just hillarious. There is a saying in sweden "du kan inte leva på gamla meriter"( You cant live out of old achievements ) which works perfectly here. ESC working their fanbase from 1.6 to throwdown at a better team in cs:go.
2012-11-19 00:49
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5 replies
#138
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xelos | 
Sweden andreasP
+111111111111
2012-11-19 00:50
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#155
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Brazil vamolisarb
it's easy to beat ESC and NiP when you have a player that check the spots just when the enemies are there. (idk how, but ok)
2012-11-19 00:59
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3 replies
#163
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Sweden Mattyy
Seriously whats with you guys from nowhere writeing about stuff you dont even know about? I bet you havent even watched the ineye demos where you can SEE also HEAR where the players are thats getting killed, also the players in their teams are calling out where the players are in voice communication such as mumble. You should try it!
2012-11-19 01:02
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2 replies
#182
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f0rest | 
Europe tumorjacka
dont bother to answer to this guy next time ;] he is a brainless fanboy
2012-11-19 01:09
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#191
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Brazil vamolisarb
o rly? i don't know that exist communication and ear. trololo but isn't the case.
2012-11-19 01:11
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#139
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Sweden zaihtaM
This is such a big clusterfuck. The organisation is really fucking unprofessional, banning because of that .txt is a fucking joke, running a tournament without an anticheat requirement is a fucking joke and favorism is a fucking joke. The actions of the two players are really suspicious, but it's not really 100% if it's cheat, but the fact that some players in the team are really dodgy (see: xelos and lox) and that they beat ESC 16-0 and NiP 16-11 makes it a really hard case, but then again some of the players actually HAVE proven themselves on LAN (jw, emilio) which makes it even more a brain wrinkler, and it's even more of a mindfuck for me as i've known JW for a couple of months and I've played and talked with him many times and I honestly didn't (and don't) believe that he'd be the type that cheats. Showing up that .txt in the stream is fucking retarded (it's retarded to even have it) and makes things even more complicated. NiP are retarded for complaining about there being no anticheat when THEY THEMSELF turned down the offer to play on an anticheat. Also the game is a piece of shit random ass game wit a low skillcap. So to summarise my rant, everyone in this situation are beyond retarded and it seems like they do everything to make the situation even more complex. My suggestion: close the tournament, ban the players, disband NiP and abandon the game - this "professional scene" is a fucking joke.
2012-11-19 00:58
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#295
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Finland FRGVN
to top that Ironzion was disqualified after they won against VeryGames ON THE VERY SAME QUALIFIER. When we complained about them hacking against us on the earlier round the admins did not do anything.. "We dont have time to watch the demos" and when we pointed out 2 obvious parts of the demo he said its too late. VG probably did the same thing and got an instant default win.
2012-11-19 03:00
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#142
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Brazil vamolisarb
ok you guys won against NiP and ESC without cheat online, so now stop writting because DH BYOC is waiting for you, WRTT the best team in the world. GO! i can't wait for you guys raping everybody on @lan at DH./ironic :D
2012-11-19 00:53
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#184
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Sweden Mattyy
So your making a dubble post about the same thing? memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01..
2012-11-19 01:09
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1 reply
#194
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Brazil vamolisarb
no, i'm just waiting them for DH. (and raping everybody)
2012-11-19 01:12
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#146
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Germany maRkyBEAST
ofc they wanted to play with EAC cause organner is EAC proofed...
2012-11-19 00:54
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1 reply
WOW something getting clear.....
2012-11-19 08:49
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#147
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World porter~
why you all haters blaming nip or esc for something? they made a protest - which, according to rules, they can do. all decisions were made by admins so stop flaming on nip/esc, its not their decision
2012-11-19 00:54
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#157
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Sweden dolkenn
If you read the article above all the comments it's pretty clear that NiP says that they can't really play with EAC when they were supposed to play versus WRTT with eac, but then after the match Xizt goes out in media and says something like "Online qualifer without anti-cheat, come on" when it was their fault they never used EAC.
2012-11-19 00:59
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5 replies
#167
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World porter~
ok, thats true but final decision was made by admins after seeing .txt file. whats nip have to do in it?
2012-11-19 01:04
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1 reply
#173
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Sweden dolkenn
I never commented that, so no clue. I was just answering why people flame against NiP, when they acting like kids.
2012-11-19 01:05
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#168
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 01:04
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#222
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Vietnam vniik
Just because they couldn't play with EAC, doesn't mean they accepted play with cheat. You have to report something when you feel wrong.
2012-11-19 01:26
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2012-11-19 08:50
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#215
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Vietnam vniik
+1
2012-11-19 01:23
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#151
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Netherlands guidson
SUP EMILIO? W|HEN U COME TO HOLLAND BRA?
2012-11-19 00:55
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4 replies
#159
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Denmark zikkanht
To much weed bro.. Or to little?
2012-11-19 01:00
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#466
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Sweden wmb
Im not going to be homophobic but uhm xD I don't think emilio like hanging out with gay people (if you told him about your nudepictures you took a couple of years ago?) :D
2012-11-19 11:36
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#546
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Netherlands guidson
gay 4 pay
2012-11-19 13:50
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#556
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Sweden wmb
ey gigolo, its nice that u got a prize on ur ass too HAHAHA
2012-11-19 14:13
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#152
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Portugal picc
I didn't even know about all the stuff you mentioned. I watched the demos and there was cheating FOR SURE, so stop all the bullshit.
2012-11-19 00:56
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#154
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Greece her-1g
like you can pwn ESC 16-0.....c'mon lets be serious
2012-11-19 00:57
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#403
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Hungary Tibbze
well WRTT not the same as M5 was in 1.6, but ESC lost 16-0 against them on tuscan:)
2012-11-19 10:05
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#520
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Greece her-1g
yeah on lan, and m5 not an online mix of unproven players that call confidence the main factor to win against ESC and NiP...i don't buy that shit
2012-11-19 12:31
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#158
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Serbia SVOJIC.
hmmmm interesting ....
2012-11-19 01:00
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#161
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France sweetsixteen
About jw cheating, yes i think he cheated ( my decision is from the bustmovie, to much "luckyness" for one game) But he has been a beast on LAN both in 1.6 and CSGO & on stream I am just curious what would happen if jw attended a LAN and failed? would he be hated forever? i mean the kid has already proven himself? Same with Schneider, maybe he cheated in 1.6 but he beat LIONS ( khrystal, niko , fyrr73, zneel, THREAT) on LAN in 1.6 and has raped alot of good teams/mixes/players on stream @ CSGO and also won over NiP ( i see no cheatmovies of him from that game btw nor never in CSGO), and has also done alot of good LANs in sweden being the top player of all etc and he has also done some not so great LANs? so what do we all make of this i am curious? How much does someone that is called an onliner have to prove himself? Both of these kids have proven themselves so many times but yet it never ends, the acqusations
2012-11-19 01:03
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#174
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Sweden Mattyy
Well the "bust movie" is a fake accusation movie made by a fanboy of ESC bugging the movie on purpose so there is smokes everywhere on all frags. As you can see on the news post.
2012-11-19 01:05
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#181
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France sweetsixteen
There is only 1 smoke out of 3-4 smokekills that are bugged am i not correct? And also the thing where neo sits up in the spiral and he clears that angle and gets him and pasha @ A-site etc.... its just not legit in my book but hey what do i know, maybe he just had a good day?
2012-11-19 01:08
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#196
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Sweden zaihtaM
No tolerance for cheating has to exist, and we need a governing body that controls it. Doesn't matter if you're as good as f0rest on LAN, you should be severely punished for cheating. Sadly, it isn't that way today.
2012-11-19 01:13
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#162
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Ukraine gungrave
sad for WRTT trash ban
2012-11-19 01:01
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#169
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 01:04
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#165
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World Kobs
they should have let them no match verygames 16/2 or something like that in the final it would have been funny by some guys who never done anything on lan
2012-11-19 01:06
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#170
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f0rest | 
Europe tumorjacka
seems that WRTT are the best in the world ;[
2012-11-19 01:04
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#171
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Sweden rubbe
Dhw is a easy win for WRTT. Gonna bet 2000€ on them. They are for sure the best team in the world.
2012-11-19 01:04
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#172
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Germany Dok1
The question now is: What will the admins do, or will the admins even do something? Will they get them back to play the final vs. VeryGames?
2012-11-19 01:05
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#180
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Sweden badboll
The only thing WRTT can do to prove that they are not guilty is by playing DHW. And that ain´t going to happen.
2012-11-19 01:08
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#178
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Sweden dead!
Internet players of the game
2012-11-19 01:06
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#183
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Sweden badboll
Man skäms att vara svensk när sådana här idioter dyker upp!
2012-11-19 01:09
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drop out of school was not worth it i gues ? ;D
2012-11-19 01:09
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#187
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Sweden werre-
Well, this is really awkward for THOR, fragbite, sozu, NiP & ESC. Cause that .txt-file doesn't prove ANYTHING.
2012-11-19 01:10
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#190
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Sweden Tonoy
+1
2012-11-19 01:11
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#202
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Sweden rubbe
you dont think its wierd thought that theese guys are fucking horrible players 2 days before this qualifier and then all of a sudden they win 16-0 against ESC and 16-11 against BY FAR THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD.
2012-11-19 01:16
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#217
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Sweden werre-
So? Admin have to be sure that they cheated in which case and obviously he wasn't until he saw a text document that as I said doesn't prove anything.
2012-11-19 01:24
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#522
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Greece her-1g
just ban them to be sure...noone cares about wrtt everyone wants to see neo fighting :P
2012-11-19 12:33
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#188
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS
I have no idea whether they cheated or not, I did not watch the game nor I plan to. But these Cinderella stories never really happen in real life. No namers don't simply beat the dominant champions. On the other hand, the official reasons for the ban issued are bullshit...and emilio's statement explains everything. It's obvious that the txt is a joke!
2012-11-19 01:10
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#223
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Sweden sebb7
like when the American junior team became senior World Champions in hockey, defeating the legendary USSR team?
2012-11-19 01:27
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#565
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS
I don't know what you're talking about...if you mean about the 1980 olympics it's not the same thing ! The Russians were overconfident and the coach subbed off arguably the best goalie of all times for no big reason! Oh and it was not online :) Hockey and other timed sports cannot be compared to CS ...since format wise they're different! In CS you need 16 rounds, while in those sports you can win by just scoring 1 goal! My point...in CS you cannot win without really "playing"
2012-11-19 14:51
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#612
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Italy VoHiYo
NiP may be dominant but they've lost to another semi-elite Swedish team so they are not unbeatable. They are not no namers either. NiP might also have been overconfident and ESC is not good at GO yet.
2012-11-19 17:35
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#193
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Vietnam vniik
3 facts: - The matches WRTT had played seemed weird. - Disqualify WRTT just because of txt file is wrong, since the admin cound't find any proof of cheat. (It still feels fishy though) - The JW's joke was stupid. There's nothing wrong with NiP and ESC, when they feel cheated, they had to report it. The decision was admin's.
2012-11-19 01:12
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#198
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Sweden Mattyy
2012-11-19 01:14
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#204
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Sweden Tonoy
+1
2012-11-19 01:17
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#224
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xelos | 
Sweden andreasP
+1 xD so truexd!!
2012-11-19 01:27
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#206
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Poland vamopoland
it's all about internet
2012-11-19 01:17
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#212
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Georgia Fatal Fighter
2012-11-19 01:21
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#216
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Sweden HiHoo_
:o
2012-11-19 01:23
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#219
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Sweden zaihtaM
Ops
2012-11-19 01:25
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#227
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Europe nigger89
It's funny just cause some not so known people beat 2 giants, they MUST be cheating. Haha, what a joke.
2012-11-19 01:30
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#234
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Vietnam vniik
Actually, just 1 giant, NiP. But beating 16-0 against someone with a lot experience like ESC, is just like "What the hell".
2012-11-19 01:33
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#235
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Europe nigger89
Alot of experience? Maybe in 1.6, but not in a completely new game :)
2012-11-19 01:35
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#237
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Vietnam vniik
Yes, new game, but similar game, isn't it? ESC isn't a giant in CSGO, not yet. But they definitely can win a few rounds vs no-names.
2012-11-19 01:40
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#240
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Sweden Mattyy
If you ever played the game you would know that its not even slightly the same game, sure its the same maps same weapons(almost atleast) BUT its not even the same feeling in the games i can assure you that the games arent simular at all. Also they had som close rounds if you would watch the demos which you havent but still you flame. Get facts come back!
2012-11-19 01:44
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#267
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Vietnam vniik
Your comment made all the years of competitions that ESC have played like nothing at all. LOL. Why not ask GeT-right and f0rest that if there is useful experience for playing CSGO since they've played CS 1.6 for many years? Last, I think WRTT cheated. But I also expressed that the admin's decision was wrong (in #193)
2012-11-19 02:05
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#244
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Europe nigger89
CS can be a random game. It can depend alot on the mood of the teams. If 1 team is feelin' it and playing great and the other team is chemistry on that day is pretty bad, toxic on teamspeak etc. It can affect the games. I dont wanna be naive, but you have to consider the fact that GO is a relatively new game now and there are names that 1.6ers aren't aware of that will roll our legends in 1.6.
2012-11-19 01:46
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#271
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Vietnam vniik
I agree that everything can happen. But 16-0 and fishy situations in the matches is just too hard to feel right.
2012-11-19 02:04
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#233
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Serbia bettt
tardz
2012-11-19 01:33
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#236
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Sweden Mattyy
Ive never seen anyone beeing removed from a tournament without any proof except for a joke on a stream regarding a txt file. I say let WRTT play agains VG on an anticheat or w/e. So lets say i have a bind ingame "roflcopt-r-r-r-r-rr-r-r-r" or "Starpower UP" like on all of the old 1.5 or 1.6 cheats i know there were alot of other bind spams when you used them like name changing spam and stuff, too the point if i would use binds like this on a thor match would i get banned? If i topfragged against NiP och ECS (oh sorry ESC) ? That just plain bollocks, everything about this is bollocks. Just let them through let them show themselves! This is just conspiracy! At its highest level! Old dogs living in a dreamworld of beeing the best teams, wake up its a new game and the puppys(thats a small dog) are now fully grown and are eager to take their place as alpha males. Thats that.
2012-11-19 01:36
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#239
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xelos | 
Sweden andreasP
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) you sir are my new hero!
2012-11-19 01:42
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#242
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 01:45
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#248
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World kotkotN
Why dont you put it in other words and write a poem bout Grandmasters"old dogs" versus onliner"puppies". Seems legit aka "ITS NOT CHEAT!!!!!1111". :DD
2012-11-19 01:50
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#252
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Sweden Mattyy
Well since i have an oppinion and i state them here. In a way that shows people how foolish this is.
2012-11-19 01:51
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#269
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World kotkotN
You are one of the biggest fools here until these (todays) punkasses displays a skill wich is up to par with what we experienced yesterday. And that time it will be Offline/LAN vs the very bests for sure.
2012-11-19 02:02
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#273
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Sweden Mattyy
I find you hillarious :)
2012-11-19 02:08
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#251
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Germany Dok1
puppys(thats a small dog) -> hahahaha :D
2012-11-19 01:51
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#257
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Sweden Mattyy
Its funny cause its true..
2012-11-19 01:54
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#243
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fnx | 
Norway Trypticon
TBH that video looked quite convincing. I've seen a few cheaters in my time. Only thing is, it's an insult to people's intelligence when cheaters try to DENY the claims. Get real, if you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
2012-11-19 01:46
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#249
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Sweden Mattyy
Well if you watch the demo you do see that there isnt any smokes and so on since its a conspiracy by a random movie maker whos a fanboy of ESC, nuff said. Get your facts straight and come back, and please do watch the demo first before you come here flaming like some damn forum troll.
2012-11-19 01:50
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#259
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Italy cele87
sorry if im become in this argoment but im my opinion also without a smoke same frag are really suspiocious and not only from this player, also other 1-2 players are a bit suspicious, but of course i can't say they are cheating of not. In the VOD i say many and many weird actions (against ESC and against NiP)... btw of course can't ban a team only for a .txt, that's so sad because organner can't be find with any anti-cheat... (i guess)
2012-11-19 01:57
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#261
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Germany vendir2k
fanboy of esc because he make this video? u are wrtt fanboy who defend them all the time in this top. I WANT THIS GUYS ON DH WINTER BYOC gg, bb gn8
2012-11-19 01:58
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#264
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Sweden Mattyy
And you make that conclusion based on what? mr 'i love ESC'
2012-11-19 01:58
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#276
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Germany vendir2k
i watched the livestream when WRTT play vs NiP and their actions... + this bustmovie ;) as i said, i want this guys on DHW cu
2012-11-19 02:16
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#250
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Portugal itsmeERROR
Its indeed a smart statement but I had to laught at "NiP and Thor have a collaboration so they shouldn't be able to participate in the qualifiers." So, JSC Gazprom sponsors Zenit St Petersburg and at the same time, they sponsor Champions League. So by this amazing logic, Zenit shouldn't be allowed to participate in the Champions League because their main sponsor also sponsors the competition.... Really ? I do have to agree on the txt thingy, which tbh, was a stupid decision. Yet, that epic video has a nice amount of actions that even though with the "smoke bug" are quite dodgy. Best way to solve this is by doing some stuff on LAN and prove people wrong.
2012-11-19 01:50
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#282
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Russia Saint1
if the decision on who wins and who loses comes down to jsc gazprom then no, they shouldnt be allowed to participate. it comes down to conflict of interest.
2012-11-19 02:30
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#254
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Russia razor~
bullshit talks i agree they must be banned
2012-11-19 01:53
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#260
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Sweden Mattyy
And you make that conclusion based on what?
2012-11-19 01:57
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#263
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Germany Dok1
2012-11-19 01:58
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#266
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Sweden Mattyy
+1
2012-11-19 02:00
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#288
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Poland grolsch
esc did always play lame any online games, demos shouldnt be taken from their games... can someone make avi from NiP games?
2012-11-19 02:41
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#256
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Sweden xelosss
bodybag
2012-11-19 01:54
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#262
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Sweden Mattyy
<3
2012-11-19 01:58
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#275
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Brazil Feck
bashtech.net/twitch/download.php?clip=34.. Watch the video at 49:40 Why did he get so serious if it was a joke?
2012-11-19 02:16
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clip = 34111...????what is it at the back after 1 ?
2012-11-19 19:52
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#632
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Brazil Feck
2012-11-19 19:57
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thanks ^_^
2012-11-19 20:04
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#277
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World jojo90
THOR's admins suck, WRTT DESERVE TO PLAY AGAINST VERYGAMES. They won because they were better than nip and esc, make them play the final or I'LL KILL YOU.
2012-11-19 02:17
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#278
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World jojo90
don't expect any top team to play in your tournaments, now we all know how unprofessional you are :)
2012-11-19 02:19
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#296
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World Kobs
it s more onliners that wont participate ,top teams have nothing to fear
2012-11-19 03:00
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#281
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Australia JNUPS
cheaters gonna cheat
2012-11-19 02:26
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#283
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Turkey catmandoo
Meh. ESC suck at the game still and NiP probably think they deserved to win so will happily take default. The txt file is not conclusive evidence, THOR admins should learn how to run qualifiers next time. "No AC we ban people if they show .txt files on stream". Fantastic.
2012-11-19 02:31
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#289
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World Fr3de
I you imagine the following scenario; after a professional athlete in any sport suddenly, from nowhere, crushes the undisputed world champion, a document that contains reciept information that's linked to a steroid purchase - and the athlete say that he just made it for fun. What would you think? Especially if a majority of the spectators thought his preformance seemed really odd. There will never be 100% conclusive evidence in Counter-Strike, unless there's a really clumsy moron who's cheating.
2012-11-19 02:46
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#362
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United States meh00143
an example of that cal-invite source, season 1. finals.
2012-11-19 08:47
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#285
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Europe lanceV
Oh cmon, everybody saw that something was wrong, f0rest noticed it, neo noticed it, even the stream caster, rizc noticed it. This circumlocution what emilio says does not affect me. I admit that this txt thing was a joke, but it does not change anything on the weird game. I believe more in f0rest's and neo's expertise. At most do a rematch if they are still crying about they didn't cheat and thats it. (with AC)
2012-11-19 02:31
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#286
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Russia Saint1
why didnt esc accuse vg of cheating after they lost 16-2? it seems like its more esc crying about losing online (which they do alot against teams that are supposedly worse than them) and nip complaining for the same reason. replaying the games on client would be useless since if wtt lose all that will happen is people saying "see they did cheat" you cant recreate the circumstances that came about when esc and nip lost. i say let wtt progress and prove themselves on lan. admins just caved to the popular fanboy vote. sad, sad day.
2012-11-19 02:33
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#293
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World Fr3de
I highly doubt that ESC would accuse anyone if they didn't think they were actually cheating.
2012-11-19 02:54
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#294
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Russia Saint1
esc is no different than any other team. when they lose to ppl who they think they should have beaten easily theyre going to call cheats because its online. its sad that people have to prove their innocence instead of having to be proven guilty
2012-11-19 02:55
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#297
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World Kobs
it s first time they do, have you ever heard about forest accusing a team? in how many years? and they would know probably better than hltv org readers if something is supisions
2012-11-19 03:05
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#298
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Russia Saint1
what im saying is players that were in the match are not unbiased. you cant make your decisions based on their opinions, no matter who they are
2012-11-19 03:06
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#304
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World Fr3de
You don't accuse a team for cheating if you don't actually think that they in fact are cheating. There would be absolutely no purpose in doing that. ESC noticed after just a couple of rounds that something was really strange. And I doubt that it was a coincidence that NiP noticed the same thing when it was their turn.
2012-11-19 03:36
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#315
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Russia Saint1
you are misunderstand, im not debating whether wrtt were cheating or not. im saying that if the admins made one decision at the beginning, they should of stuck with that decision instead of caving to fanboy's opinions. you, YOU, are running this tournament. your decision should be final, not what everyone else thinks. as well, when people have something go against what they thought should of happened they have a tendency to look for excuses. PLENTY of people have been accused of cheating without proof. then the accuser made a clip with the intention of showing hacks, and so thats how it was edited and portrayed. personally, ive lost respect for the thor admins if they cant even stick by their own decisions.
2012-11-19 04:31
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#319
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Sweden julie-
+100000000
2012-11-19 05:15
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#299
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India dD wOW~
And this same community said They want New Teams to come up and win some tourneys bored to see NiP winning 16-3 in Finals.
2012-11-19 03:15
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#301
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Latvia pRopaaNS
What, I didn`t even say anything. People have different opinions and community isn`t an single minded beign.
2012-11-19 03:17
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#383
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India AwpTimisT KappaMode
Cm on man, isn't it that everyone desires proper fight, competition at the top level and not 1 team dominating every single tournament? I believe that this is what almost every guy in the community wants.
2012-11-19 09:39
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#300
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Korea calerop
Ban WRTT isn't a solution at all. One way to resolve this is to get VeryGames and WRTT in a LAN and play the final qualifier. WHY? WRTT did some weird actions, it's a fact. But admins claimed 'have seen absolutely no proof of cheating', and that's a fact too. Be objective: no matters how many times they've cheated, the problem we have is here and now. A murderer is not automatically guilty for being a murder. Two possible solutions: -Get a weak proof they're cheating so THOR can't be attacked and not to get back on their words -Let them pass and kick ESC and NiP out of the competition (well, qualifier) So I presume they decided the first one.
2012-11-19 03:17
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#302
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Australia Roch2g
business is business. I feel sorry for this team, they should come back on 1.6 :D
2012-11-19 03:21
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#305
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United States rokofe
Meh, no evidence for ban and it is kind of stupid. But I guarantee on lan WRTT will get destroyed by NiP 16-0, and probably get a few lucky rounds against ESC. Just onliners being onliners
2012-11-19 03:39
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#306
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United States rokofe
and i know what i'm talking about because I always perform better online than on lan in any game, with online play being 99% of mine
2012-11-19 03:40
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#309
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Slovenia vegetko
i guess i would be nervous on lan and when im nervous when playing online i cant hit a bot so yeah, many players can be great online (not saying i am) but not that good on lan (most people dont get this, like you need to be really smart to get it)
2012-11-19 03:44
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#380
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India AwpTimisT KappaMode
+1
2012-11-19 09:34
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optimist? nice nick =)
2012-11-19 19:55
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#638
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India AwpTimisT KappaMode
Thanks mate :)
2012-11-19 20:10
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#307
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Philippines NSDHITMAN
WRTT EXPLAIN IT TO THE POLICE! :D
2012-11-19 03:41
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#308
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Slovenia vegetko
didnt watch, wont watch (unless someone makes a movie). the .txt thing is weird (does he have it in csgo folder?). if he has in csgo folder then i believe he cheats (yeah old joke from 2 months of the game right). if the rules say that team will get disqualified if they find anything suspicious on pc then the decision in correct. suggesting to play with EAC doesnt mean a lot because if they played with EAC maybe they wouldnt cheat, maybe they have a cheat which bypasses EAC (not hard to get i guess). for me its nothing weird if esc loose 16-0 vs unknowns (for me) cuz the game is new + ESC didnt even play that map (yeah they did in 1.6 but hey, they also played other maps a lot and lost on eswc, yeah really helps to have played that map million times). so yeah, cs:go needs a new good anticheat system else this is gonna happen on every online tournament on which any team can participate. ohh and xizt's tweet seems immature to me (like him tho)
2012-11-19 03:42
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Its not like Aligon/WRTT are nonamers like BZSX so its hard to believe they would start cheating now. However there was some serious suspicious moments in jw's match against ESC and the xelos walltrack against NiP was indeed weird. That .txt file ban though is pretty dumb. Either ban them from the demo evidence or let them play, it should be one or the other.
2012-11-19 04:22
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#320
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Sweden julie-
Thats whats so funny! people talk like theese guys came from nowhere.. they've been at many lans in 1.6 especially in the end.. and they have won some too.. and lost some.. Just feels like people refuse to realise its a new game, with new stars!!! Gogogo WRTT.txt !!
2012-11-19 05:20
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#370
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Germany Dok1
Also they won the first norwegian CSGO LAN which was ByLAN 2012 i think...
2012-11-19 09:06
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completely different lineup
2012-11-19 13:35
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#313
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ritch | 
United Kingdom ritchiedrama
bad game, bad tournament _GET_OVER_IT_ plz come back 1.6 :--)
2012-11-19 04:23
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#430
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Sweden wmb
ritch vs lurppis round 2?
2012-11-19 10:44
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#314
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Canada h4z0h2k_c9
can't believe nip and vg can get away with this. because they are pros, admins suck their dicks?
2012-11-19 04:28
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#316
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Russia Saint1
its nip and esc, vg was supposed to play them afterwards
2012-11-19 04:34
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#317
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Canada h4z0h2k_c9
esc isnt even good at GO and they were my favorite team in 1.6 for over 5 years and I can admit to that.. they get special treatment because they were good in 1.6
2012-11-19 04:37
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#318
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Russia Saint1
i agree except with the esc fave team part, ive never liked them
2012-11-19 04:39
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#321
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Finland FRGVN
well vg got a default win too.. we played against some hackers and complained about it and no one did nothing.. when vg lost to them they complained and they advanced to the next round.
2012-11-19 05:29
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#323
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Germany Grundsolide
do your homework - VG asked for demos and the winner team could not deliver (surprise) and yeah... so them got the win per rulebook.
2012-11-19 05:39
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#322
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Sweden Tonoy
There is so much favoritism so its bananaz. Embarrassing by Thor and Sozu who have disgraced, CDON, THOR, Fragbite and NIP because of their sponsorship. DQ's a team with no evidence of cheating. All those players have performed in LAN, from playing in the Swedish national team and won several lan. Everybody that have mixed with them knows how good they are, so its time to face the fact. WRTT for the win!
2012-11-19 05:39
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#431
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Sweden wmb
wrtt has no players playing for the national team. (besides cozman who were playing for CS:S sweden)
2012-11-19 10:45
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#325
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Russia Stickyf
NiP lost their respect for many people...
2012-11-19 05:56
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#346
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Latvia pRopaaNS
wtf, they probably didn`t do anything in this matter. There are no announcements from them nor you can find them complaining.
2012-11-19 07:55
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#368
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Germany Dok1
Yes there are; just take a look at their facebook page and the players twitter pages (Xizt for example)... It's disgusting.
2012-11-19 09:02
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#376
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Latvia pRopaaNS
Xizt is the only one from them to write anything about it in facebook. Come on, what are you disgusted out from? From him writing this? "ESC and VeryGames out of the THOR qualifier. I'm not accusing anyone of cheat but come on, online qualifier without anti cheat? Are we next?" Maybe I just don`t know how to use facebook and he really have posted rude crap somewhere...
2012-11-19 09:19
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#390
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Germany Dok1
He posted this in his twitter page: Looks like we are through in the #THOR qualifier. Will play ESC tomorrow 19:00 CET! #JUSTICE #CHEATZ #HAX #PASHAWILLFINDYOU He didn't even think a slight second about the reason of the ban...
2012-11-19 09:51
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#394
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Latvia pRopaaNS
So what? Isn`t he allowed to post that?
2012-11-19 09:57
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#397
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Germany Dok1
Of you ask me it's unprofessional yelling at them when they get banned because of this nonsense... Atleast he should say sorry now.
2012-11-19 10:00
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#328
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Brazil gus p.
no cheat in there sire.
2012-11-19 06:01
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#329
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India Ace^ 4N~
Interesting explanation. I still think that that notepad stuff alone is not enough to accuse someone of cheating. If admins didn't find anything in the povs, then WRTT should not be disqualified.
2012-11-19 06:03
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#330
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Portugal westoN-
ban ESC from all internet tournaments plz, they are not goods at go, i like them but they wont admit. We will see in like 1month again "blabla cheatead accused by team esc" like always.. Cmon dudes give a break. They cant lose vs anyone i see. Well good night ppl
2012-11-19 06:30
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#331
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
Man you kids are gullible. I am not taking any ones side but the images that were posted "clearing" them of any wrongdoing do nothing of the such. Everything in that image can be made in 5 minutes.
2012-11-19 06:37
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#333
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United States chuckyfin
how come whenever someone gets caught cheating in professional gaming it always "a joke"?....why would u take the time to take a .txt receipt form organner? who were u making that to show to? just play the fucking game. u cheated
2012-11-19 06:44
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#360
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Italy Centeh
You are incredibly stupid, it was an old joke, read the article you dumbfuck.
2012-11-19 08:46
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#377
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United States chuckyfin
and YOU believe it, whos the dumbfuck now? You dont even know the kids and u are sucking their balls and believing everything they say. They got caught cheating, deal with it
2012-11-19 09:20
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#399
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Germany Dok1
They didn't get caught, deal with it.
2012-11-19 10:01
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#410
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United Kingdom Gumpster
How is that "caught cheating"? All actions in the game can be explained by calls, sound and sight... if a text file which is a blatant joke and a blatant fake (any admin with experience will know this) is a way of being "caught cheating" then there is something really wrong with how admins work.
2012-11-19 10:09
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#442
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United States chuckyfin
their shady history plus this situation makes it hard to take their side, if they played legitly their entire "careers" maybe people would give them a chance. But they arent honest people, plus they arent going to attend DH-BYOC bc they say that they arent "ready as a team"...LOL what? You just beat ESC 16-0 and beat NIP who have never lost a map since they started playing CSGO, and u are gonna say u arent ready to attend a BYOC LAN? Thats LAN dodging and another shady move by them...get the fuck off their nuts, they arent legit.
2012-11-19 11:08
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#555
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United Kingdom Gumpster
This is about the games at hand.... kRYSTAL in Source cheated previously in 2009 and came back and proved he was clean. Just because a player has a "shady" past does not mean they are cheaters in the "here and now". This wasn't a victory in the interests of "fair play". One of their players is LAN proven in CS:GO as well.
2012-11-19 14:06
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#647
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United States chuckyfin
yea but khrystal proved it on LAN and went on to play for great teams alongside other great players...u say ONE of their players is LAN proven in cs:go, ok that doesnt excuse the rest of the nonamers on the team that were able to shit on the #1 cs:go team in the world(NIP)...shady is shady until u prove it on LAN and they obviously dont want to prove it on LAN, bc they cant. end of story
2012-11-19 21:12
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#649
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Or perhaps they havent got the time off work for DHW? Some people cannot book holidays off at the drop of the hat...
2012-11-19 22:29
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#650
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United States chuckyfin
they already stated they wont be going bc "they are not ready as a team"....they said nothing about work or school or anything else.
2012-11-19 22:47
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#651
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Doesn't matter... they can hide behind that reason, they don't need to list every single players reasons for not going.
2012-11-19 22:54
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#656
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United States chuckyfin
lol u really love that team huh, any other team would say....we cant go bc this guy has an exam and this guy will be on vacation in this country...plus it would be more believable then not being ready as a team, like i said they just beat NIP(the best team in the world), how are u not ready as a team?
2012-11-20 03:06
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#334
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Ukraine yxo
The Game still shitty, nothing has changed
2012-11-19 06:47
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#526
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World stuch228
+
2012-11-19 12:45
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#335
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Sweden kYcH
Good that Fragbite.se comes with a statement, when they are the Hosts of the tournament. Sozu <3 NiP
2012-11-19 06:50
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#336
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World doh
fuck Thor !! wont watch thor/finals and so on..
2012-11-19 06:54
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#337
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
oh i love this drama :) can't wait for the third act
2012-11-19 07:06
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#620
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Italy Based God
Me 2.
2012-11-19 18:41
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#338
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Singapore hohi
So NIP and ESC or any top team is never supposed to lose online? Just because ESC was good in 1.6 does not mean they are any good at GO. The VOD proves nothing and when you watch a VOD or demo of other top players with WH on you will think they cheat too.
2012-11-19 07:22
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#339
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Sweden dalrot
Well said Emilio! I agree with you guy weak "evidence" and you should not have been kicked from the final!
2012-11-19 07:27
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can't say about cheating, but NiP -Thor collobration thing is pure bullshit. Yeh there may be collobration but it doesnt puts any boundation NiP. Its not a lottery game, where you may get benefit of association, you have to play and beat teams yourself. Its like saying australian F1 team can't participate in Australian GP.
2012-11-19 07:31
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#344
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Korea jookie
That clip posted doesn't prove much. It's suspicious at BEST.
2012-11-19 07:43
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#348
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India RemaKe4D
Confused.... but its seems legit. And the receipt is also not original so we cant say he bought it. it was self made joke. GL for future and THOR admins you suck and NIP too. last time also they lost in THOR open qualifier and they want to attend the event and few chances left. Sv_excuses 1 for NIP and ESC.
2012-11-19 08:00
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#349
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Jordan cHaos~*
Life is unfair deal with it.
2012-11-19 08:12
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#351
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Europe Naitee
NO EVIDENCE.
2012-11-19 08:35
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#352
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Sweden lytter
Waiting to hear something from ESC/fragbite/NiP, so stoked.
2012-11-19 08:36
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#358
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Greece Jerk it out
Hahaha LIke! :D hope to see you again in a match!
2012-11-19 08:44
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#363
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Denmark MSAA
The first decision to DQ WRTT should be overruled, and they should be awarded with a spot in the final, where they should face VeryGames.
2012-11-19 08:48
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I dont think there were enough evidence to disqualify WRTT. They deserve that spot in the final with proper anti cheats
2012-11-19 09:01
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#369
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RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077
innocent until proven guilty
2012-11-19 09:04
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#372
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Petra | 
World sCave
awesome!! :) knew they were clean, cant wait to see what those guys smash NiP and all the other great teams xD
2012-11-19 09:09
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#373
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Estonia alakk
I think the only question here is why the fuck would you have a "txt" file of organner.pl You would think this is "funny"? selfowned, seriously.
2012-11-19 09:10
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#375
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Norway zEVES
Reminds me of the coloN-case all over again, and when EXR and zaider got banned on a facebook-screenshot when they talked about cheating against SK. However, as I can see they get banned by a "lame" txt file. Should this be enough to ban players out of a cup? I really dont think so. The demo was quite dodgy at times but this statement really gave me a completely new view on the situation. It might just be a resque-attempt from their side, or maybe they actually stated the truth. cheat or no cheat, you have to be extremely sure if they cheat. Noone wants to be in their situation right now. Hundreds of topics, news, posted pictures and trashtalk on irc. Give them a chance, they could surprise everyone on lan, like coloN did. Just have to say that i got a open mind on everything, I never judge people on beforehand. Have a nice day all :)
2012-11-19 09:15
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Not the first time these kids? took things into an abusement. Even took bunnyhop script into usage at LAN(!) along with marking out red dots in center of skirmes. Swedish Championship tournies they are banned from. The list goes on with previous cheating and things doesnt make it less complicated with a history like that. They only got themselves to blaim on. Prove yourself at the DH-BYOC to start with or leave the serious scene before getting into real trouble (physical voilence might happen anytime at any place). Im not saying all cheated, perhaps not all used cheat. But its completly irrlelevant wether its 1 or all 5. These guys are in this moment nothing but the true faces of scams, lies and cheat.
2012-11-19 09:37
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#387
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Norway zEVES
Are you kidding me? You act like a little online-gangster! You make me sick. you cant just force them to attend DHW-BYOC if they cant go? Some people actually got work and school. Maybe they got exams like I do that weekend? You simply cant say what you just did. All of the players were quite good in 1.6. not outstanding, but they were ok. Maybe noone cheated and they are the freaking best team in the world? Hope you got the irony mr. G! but some people are just more comfortable at home, playing in their own envirement at their own computer at their normal setup.
2012-11-19 09:46
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You seem mad butthurt for some reason. None is "forcing", but facts still remain, if they looking for beeing taken as serious gamers and not a bounch of loucy scammers they Need(!) to show up at LANs vs world-elites. Not just playing cool and cheating from wanker boysroom with one hand on the balls and picking up boogers with other on mousepad. Funny thing it doesnt comes up as a huge surprice they allready said they wont attend DHW-(BOYC), reason"?" - :"We dont feel ready as a team". Once again, funny thing this so called "best team in the world" isnt ready, not even for a simple BOYC-Q. Dont you think(?)
2012-11-19 10:07
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#449
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Norway zEVES
I am for sure not mad. I don't know any of the players, I just feel that almost everyone judge them on beforehand. It was like when they won 16-0 over esc, the whole community called them cheaters unthoughtful of they didn't watch the pov or the bustmovie. They were playing mill, a map I can imagine esc has not played in a competitive matter for many many years. I know swedish players play it quite often tho in gathers and so they simply got the advantage. I didn't get that part of they didn't feel ready, when you wrote it now i can imagine your frustration. when they beat two of the best csgo teams in the world online, they must be ready. But as I said in the first post, I will not judge them in beforehand, and you should respect my opinion instead of keep giving me arguments..
2012-11-19 11:22
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#613
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Italy VoHiYo
And who of these players did that? I know that Lox used a dot in the middle of the screen, and he isn't playing for WRTT, so who used bunnyhop script?
2012-11-19 17:45
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#379
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Finland rad1um
Thor is being super unprofessional. I'm happy that I never took a part of it.
2012-11-19 09:27
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#385
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Romania colapso
it is so easy to hide your wallhack with these cheats nowadays and with a new game. For me it should be a rematch with a srong anticheat.
2012-11-19 09:40
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#389
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France kgnz
Rly don't care but WHERE ARE BY BET POINTS ?!?!?!
2012-11-19 09:49
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#391
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Germany RaZztheTaZz
Guys, First and foremost. This is the admins decision and NiP or ESC should be to blame for any of this. People need to understand that the online qualifier is not really hosted by THOR, it's hosted by fragbite and as far as I know, fragbite does not sponsor NiP OR ESC for that matter. In regards to the cheating accusations: Sure, disqualifying a team because of one .txt file is not correct. And c'mon.. We all know that EAC is outdated when it comes to CS:GO. It was used in 1.6 and CSS but even in CSS it wasn't functioning properly.. Now, why would you even use it? I heard somewhere that ESL wire can be used if you setup a gather or something on the esl page, maybe that would have been a better AC to use in a tournament of this caliber instead of running no anti-cheat at all / or using EAC which again, is not stable. In regards to the demos and VoDs, yes, there are some smokebugs in the demos, but this is easily fixed by the user watching the demo if you don't use the tick from the round of which you are trying to watch. Example: Team A does something dodgy on the 4th round, the given tick of that round is 30,000. Instead of going to that tick, you can go to 27,000 and watch from the previous round, or just reload the demo and it will be fixed. I myself watched the demo, and also the VoD of the matches, and one thing that's always been an issue with in-eye demos ( Even in 1.6 and Source as well ) is that Aim-trigger does not show up. When being watched in-game like the streamer did, or watching a HLTV / gotv demo, then you will clearly see a difference in crosshair control of one of the players, xelos. Now, tell me this. If the streamer is IN-GAME along with the other players and watches him, and you clearly see aim-trigger activate on several occasions during the mill game, this is also one of the reasons why the player never choose to spray more than 3 bullets, because then it will look even more obvious. Aim-trigger is also the one cheat that is the hardest to spot, always has been and always will. Nothing you can do about that.. In regards to the "bust movie" There were some dodgy things, but not enough to actually bust someone. I agree! In regards to JW: Yes, this guy is one out of 5 in that team that's been to an event in CS:GO and won. Now, did anyone even check the attendee list of that LAN? The teams at that event are clearly not even top30 in the world and winning that event really does not say anything about the situation itself. Also, I noted in the VoD one round vs NiP, emilio decides to rebuy his smoke after failing to throw it over mid. I am not sure about the rules here, but normally that would be a 3 round penalty, that would still make it 13-11 to WRTT, but I am not sure if it happened more than once in that game, One more of those mishaps would have also costed WRTT the game. What I really logged in to say was really that people should not throw dirt on NiP or ESC when again, it's admins decision to disqualify team WRTT. and it's fragbite holding the online qualifier, not THOR. I really hope that WRTT decides to try and qualify again next week because I would love to see them win and attend the playoffs. And I am not sure about them attending the BYOC qualifier for DHW, but I really hope that they attend, even if they feel that they are not ready, beating both ESC, even if it's on mill, and also NiP on mirage should really give them some extra confidence even if they don't feel ready. Sorry for the wall of text. And I apologize if there's some mistakes in my grammar
2012-11-19 09:53
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#405
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Europe Naitee
I dont get the part where he rebuys a smoke. Is that forbidden in any way?
2012-11-19 10:06
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#418
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
Yes, that's a rule from 1.6 times, a player can only use 1 smoke, 2 flashes and 1 nade in a round.
2012-11-19 10:26
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#446
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Europe Naitee
didnt know that tbh. But why would they make buytime longer than freezetime? lol
2012-11-19 11:15
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#502
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA]
That's a good solution to the problem, but i guess the logical reason for different buytime and freezetime is that the teams could use 10 seconds freezetime for discussion, money status etc and could buy while moving out of spawn.
2012-11-19 12:04
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#458
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Norway zEVES
If you buy a smoke and throws it and buy one more, you would get a 3 round penalty. I thought that it was the same rules in this cup aswell in others? then you can smoke the whole map if you could.
2012-11-19 11:30
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#461
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Europe Naitee
well I didnt know that there was a rule for this as I thought the limited buytime would prevent that abuse.
2012-11-19 11:32
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#464
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Norway zEVES
I have red many upset of rules in different qualifiers and online cups, but i have never red that you can't rebuy nades. However, when you have played 1.6 for many years it is just instinct that you doesn't do it.
2012-11-19 11:34
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#493
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Europe Naitee
*read ;) Yeah I know but I thought this was due to the freezetime being just as long as the buytime. When I played LAN with friends I often smoked double doors and instantly bought a new smoke :D
2012-11-19 11:56
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#436
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Germany Dok1
question1: would they even allow them to play the next qualifier when they banned them because of 'cheating'? (Is there even another qualifier?) question2: Does the thor qualifier habe that smoke rebuy rule? I don't think so...
2012-11-19 10:58
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He didnt rebuy a smoke, he bought a DECOY instead, but haters gonna hate :)
2012-11-20 00:40
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#395
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Estonia danzenberg
idk why, but i believe those guys
2012-11-19 09:59
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Ban them for life , no one can win with ESC
2012-11-19 10:04
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#406
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Europe Naitee
Poland must be proud of you :) I hope they keep you!
2012-11-19 10:07
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#401
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Poland Ventori
WRTT used hack's and end of discussion, please.
2012-11-19 10:04
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#409
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Europe Naitee
You would totally change you mind if it wasnt for ESC...
2012-11-19 10:07
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4 replies
#411
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Poland Ventori
I'm norwegian, any question bro?
2012-11-19 10:10
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#422
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Naitee
What has that to do with anything? I am German, does that matter because ESC is a German organization? I just looked up your account, fav player is NEO and youre against "sweden fanboys". Your opinion is biased and therefore irrelavant.
2012-11-19 10:29
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#424
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Poland Ventori
Yes I like ESC team, you have any problem with this? Something everyone likes. You are fan of Swden cs, becouse your fav players is Forest and every comments on this topic you defending Swedish team bro. So better, lets stop this discussion and don't replay me anymore.
2012-11-19 10:37
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#448
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Europe Naitee
So much fail in your reply. Lets just ignore those errors and pretend youre really from Norway and speak decent English: I dont have a problem with you being a fan of ESC's Polish squad but since the topic is also about them your opinion is affected by your sympathy towards them. I I am not a fan of Swedish CS at all, I like teams from various countries. Now the best: I am defending the Swedish team because there is Swedish teams on BOTH sides lol doesnt matter if you think they cheated or not, you are either on the side of WRTT (SWE) or ESC+NiP(also SWE!!). One final tip - I'd rather try to learn the language first before using stupid "words" like bro and stuff. Learn the basics instead.
2012-11-19 11:25
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#408
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Spain kryppp
When you come up and you have level, you can make things like this against top teams like NiP or ESC And more when probably they thought at the start they didnt need play with all versus a unknown team as WRTT But, NO ANTICHEATS IN THOR
2012-11-19 10:07
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#414
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Russia jaxking
csgo is dead
2012-11-19 10:16
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#415
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Latvia venom'
Cry a river WRTT. jW was so talanted, just made me laugh. He just guesses all time,kid..
2012-11-19 10:20
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#416
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Romania nawxin
whit a fking .txt u can tell a player is cheat.
2012-11-19 10:23
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#417
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland TeddyPL
There is no evidence of cheats = assume innocent. Let them all play together once again on LAN this time. Poland and Sweden are neighbouring countries, so that shouldn't be a problem (cost and time). They can even meet at a ferry.
2012-11-19 10:23
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#419
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Romania xPAz
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2012-11-19 10:29
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2 replies
+1
2012-11-19 10:40
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1 reply
#564
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neeve | 
Portugal neeve
xD
2012-11-19 14:48
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#420
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Estonia onton
mashnya
2012-11-19 10:28
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#423
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Sweden wmb
told you so, dont tell me that i didnt tell you that those guys were clean
2012-11-19 10:32
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3 replies
#437
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Slovakia kubiaxk
you told us Beta hrs are not counting in retail game ...
2012-11-19 11:00
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2 replies
#440
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Sweden wmb
Can you please come up with backings that beta hours are counted in the retail game? If not, stop talking. Really, I'm getting fed up and your starting to make me really pissed off. I told you all from the first beginning that jw was clean and now all of a sudden you start talking about steamhours arent counted. Die in a fire man
2012-11-19 11:07
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#534
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Sweden albvel
My beta hours werent counted :) As i played 60+ hours in beta, and now that i got the game i only got 45,6 hours.
2012-11-19 13:18
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#425
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Denmark nEw0w
am i the only one who thinks that as an excuse from the Thor organisers they should give WRTT one of the 8 lan spots, and let them prove themselfes on lan
2012-11-19 10:38
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#432
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Sweden wmb
+10 xD
2012-11-19 10:47
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3 replies
#452
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India h8or
+1 But will they (WRTT) agree to take part on LAN? Thats the question.
2012-11-19 11:23
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#474
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Norway prb-
That won't pass.NiP or VG will take it...please think a bit about the finals...nobody would watch then.
2012-11-19 11:40
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#503
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Denmark nEw0w
i think actually now with all this drama WRTT could pull as many spectators if not more than the topteams, i know for sure I and many of my friends would like to see it
2012-11-19 12:05
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#426
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Poland ChoseN1`
I can believe that .txt file was a joke, but everyone with some expierience about CS can see how jw is running on the map, one time he is running, just rushing and he knows that area around him is clean, one time he is walking, like with awp when he kills ducking neo. I think that rematch would be good decision.
2012-11-19 10:38
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^ this
2012-11-19 20:20
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#427
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Belgium Nouti
The bust movie was pretty pathetic
2012-11-19 10:40
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#428
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India Saske ^--^
Thor Admins ..What do u wanna say Now? ESC and Nip U arent fking invincible!.. Stop accusing sm1 as cheater just coz u lost!
2012-11-19 10:40
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#435
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Turkey zeE!
f*ck your injustice... ESC and NiP sometimes it's good to accept defeat.
2012-11-19 10:57
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#438
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Hungary Tibbze
Emilio's statement seems pretty legit, while the admins/Thor/ESC/NiP doesnt have any other proofs just a .txt file. Even if it was a bad joke on stream a .txt file doesnt make any sense. There were a lot of setups on a lot of online matches in cs's history. (a2g? duttdutt who beat mTw? or similiar teams like now WRTT?) suprisely no one complained if they are cheat or not when these teams beat some pretty well known teams even if 1.6 and cs:go isn't the same game its still cs. Or coloN, he wasnt a well known player in the community just when they beat Norway on CB. Everyone complained that he used wallhacks and has a wierd playstyle and what happened on CPH Games? He proved that everyone is wrong about him. Example ESC (Sry polish mates) but even n!faculty beat them on LAN in ESWC, and to be honest n!faculty isnt that strong, maybe the 3rd best team in Germany so CS:GO ESC is totally different than #N1 1.6 ESC. I watched the VODs maybe 3 times and the main reason why ESC lost was because of the map. They reached the bombsite maybe 1-2 times + 2x 3x 1v2 2v2 tough situations and thats all. Clearly they didnt practiced on that map before and had no clue what to do to break WRTT's wall. Simply ESC and NiP have a way larger fanbase and admins suck their dick and let them play the semi. Fifflaren or Xizt was an idiot @ EAC, its their own fault + it wasnt an easy match on mirage when WRTT lead 6-1 than 8-7 at half time. Pretty common result. About the video...well do this with f0rest,Neo,GTR movements u will notice way more suspicious moments and they are well know professionals. Im not hating ESC or NiP, but this was an unfair move and atleast they deserves a rematch WITH eac! #236 right!
2012-11-19 11:03
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well where is #236, too many comments just lazy to find it out
2012-11-19 20:23
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#439
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ketchup | 
Netherlands SLisKDAKJE
sounds like a lance amstrong in cs
2012-11-19 11:05
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#441
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Slovakia kubiaxk
I don't know. If someone is proved cheater, it is hard to believe him online without AC(in any game). And there is always chance he have something. Once cheater, for ever cheater. but there is also aspect in our heads. Hey this guy cheated once. Hey that shot was just bullshit he must have silent AB. But that cloud be just luck bullet... and all cw is in <-> because you are just thinking about your opponent haxs... so as i said if you was once proved haxor in any game (CS/CSS) is very hard to believe you ONline even with AC on remember "Once cheater, for ever cheater."
2012-11-19 11:09
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#451
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Sweden wmb
"Once cheater forever cheater?" So zonic, kuben, delpan all of those who've been cheating once in their life, they're all cheaters? To be fair with you, your an idiot, so please stop commenting.
2012-11-19 11:23
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#460
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Slovakia kubiaxk
jaja i am idiot and you are genius whose steam hrs. in beta aren't counted to retail game. yes ... but there are cheaters and cheaters and zonic, kuben , delpan was punished for haxing, also . and i said Once cheater, for ever cheater in meaning of "if someone cheated even once, and was punished, it is hard to believe him" not going argument with you more cuz you sir are rly mad on anyone who are discuss in FORUM . go to cadred and talk bull crap them...
2012-11-19 11:32
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#463
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Sweden wmb
You haven't backed up the fact that beta hours are counted or not counted. And zonic/kuben was never punished, Delpan was disqualified from a tourney. And you never mentioned about being punished or w/e. And you are just another scrub on this page. And sure, I'll start using cadred because people here don't really get what common sense or logic is. zzz
2012-11-19 11:34
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#482
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Slovakia kubiaxk
yeah and you are just another onlinehero who showing up muscles if "10" ppl who was in beta told you YES , you are saying NO ... was you in beta ? Because i was. go and tell this (about beta hrs.) on cadred , they will have good fun of you. gl . don't visit HLTV.org thanks
2012-11-19 11:46
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#485
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Sweden wmb
I was in the BETA, I had it since November. I was even posting prints about my account having the BETA here, and I even made a thread about unlocking Shader levels in CS:GO. Please, tie a rope to your neck and jump from a bridge. I've been owning my HLTV-account since late 2006-2007. So gtfo scrub
2012-11-19 11:49
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#494
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Slovakia kubiaxk
so who cares ? why i should kill myself ... i was in beta since may. So it is sad everyone have counted hrs in except you. You are talking bull craps and you know it. btw be a nice to ppl don't send them commit suicide. It is childish from you. I think life is beautiful and i don't even thinking about suicide even once. But you should visit psychiatrist, because you talking about suicide quite often.
2012-11-19 11:58
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#501
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Sweden wmb
No, commit suicide, jump off a cliff, tie to a rope to your neck and jump from a stol. Do whatever you can to delete your scrubiness away from the internets. I encourage you all that are scrubs and talk about things that you don't know of to commit suicide. I'm not talking "bull craps" mr_scrub. Ask them at steam forums and you'll see for yourself. I had the beta since July 2011 and was accessing the beta after Dreamhack Winter.
2012-11-19 12:04
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6 replies
#517
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Slovakia kubiaxk
2012-11-19 12:27
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5 replies
#523
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Sweden wmb
achievements isnt steam hours you total dumbnut. i dont get why ur so dumb
2012-11-19 12:33
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#527
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Slovakia kubiaxk
:DDDDDD so i am dumb ... ok seems legit. follow this thread @ steam forum forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthrea.. i hope someone will reply for you soon:-*
2012-11-19 12:51
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#615
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Italy VoHiYo
Some peoples beta hours weren't counted in the retail game.
2012-11-19 17:49
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2 replies
#637
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Slovakia kubiaxk
then i must apologize to wmb1 .. did not know that. sorry brah
2012-11-19 20:07
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#657
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ketchup | 
Netherlands SLisKDAKJE
+1
2012-11-20 07:55
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#443
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Sweden gustn
worst admin ever, this is why the scene wont grow.
2012-11-19 11:10
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#444
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Romania razooor
This is bad from THOR cup, admins didn't prove that WRTT cheated,but they banned them cause they wanted a semi between NIP and ESC. WRTT should've been here.
2012-11-19 11:10
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#445
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Sweden pegasuspect
Why don't we remain focus on the demos? The problem is not weather NiP didnt want to play on EAC or not, or if jw's .txt file was fake.. It's about keeping focus on demos so we can come to a statement, cheating or not cheating. Though... making a "fake" .txt file as a joke in a stream would be the last logical and funny joke to me, wtf?
2012-11-19 11:15
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#450
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Sweden coolha
!??!?!?!?!?!? admins disqualified them not because of the demos, but because of the .txt file. The admin claimed that there wasn't anything wrong about the demos.
2012-11-19 11:22
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#447
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Turkey zeE!
history will have been not to forget this.
2012-11-19 11:19
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#453
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Finland blackoutti
Watched the streams of both matches, if WRTT were not cheating I am not breathing... I hope decision stays.
2012-11-19 11:24
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#457
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Sweden wmb
Ok NiP ( 1.6 forever fanboy ) -> grow up please
2012-11-19 11:28
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2 replies
#530
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Sweden badboll
Do you have brain? Doesn't seems like that.
2012-11-19 13:01
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he born without brain
2012-11-19 20:29
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#454
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United Kingdom wap
Based on the video I still think he cheated. Also I don't understand why some people are saying that ESC and NiP are only accusing them because they lost to them. Especially ESC was never known for their online play in 1.6 and lost against a lot of randoms team but I don't recall them accusing anyone, and I certainly don't recall f0rest gtr or Xizt accusing anyone either.
2012-11-19 11:24
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#510
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Sweden wmb
Remember superplayer v3d1m4k who clutched FX? JW was like v3d1m4k this game, difference was that v3d1m4k cheated and jw not. v3d1m4k should never have admitted that he cheated in public afterwards :D if he was smart enough he'd just be quiet and carry on with his cheating really
2012-11-19 12:14
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#532
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Portugal krezylobstah
so basically you're saying v3d1m4k should be doing what these guys are doing? i was supporting wrtt because emilio is very nice guy, but after all this mess, the only guy i'm 100% did not cheat is him. the problem is he can't vouch for the others, he can't actually tell us they didn't cheat, he doesn't know. the others, unfortunately, were too immature to realize this kind of joke is compromising and are paying for it now, wether they hacked or not.
2012-11-19 13:11
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#456
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Germany Mirze
Haha I'm not that fickle :< The only thing that would convince me you're not cheaters is you going to DH winter, qualifying for the last remaining spots and beating NiP fair and square. :>
2012-11-19 11:27
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#462
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Poland kiero
so maybe some organisation will create one tournament for cheaters and all of you fans staying behind WRTT could watch them
2012-11-19 11:34
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#468
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Serbia nutcracker
First, one thing bothers me, if he/they cheated, don't you think they are not dumb enough to beat ESC 16-0, so they turn everyone's attention to them o_O? I mean, they could give ESC like 8 rounds or smth, so it doesn't look that much suspicious. Second, you all say - go to LAN and show ur skills. I must disagree. As someone who also plays cs for 13 years now, the difference between LAN and online is huge. I know ppl that adapt easily to conditions in LAN, but i don't. I've played a lot of matches online, doing some crazy shoots, cause my gear, my computer height etc are the way i like (@ my house). When i go to LAN it's totally different and it will never be the same. Though, i never practiced enough in LAN (since i got decent computer), to say i cannot adapt. I can play in LAN, but it's 40% of me. So, don't compare those two (it's not like i bring my pc table + pc and play in LAN).
2012-11-19 11:38
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#483
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India CrUsH :D
Big team failure=Small team BAN...lolism
2012-11-19 11:46
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#486
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Poland kiero
assuming they don't cheat well that's mean they are rly good and soon will dominate CS:GO scene
2012-11-19 11:49
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#488
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Ukraine VATABURGER
admin loh
2012-11-19 11:50
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#490
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North Macedonia dimitar[A]
if you beat NiP, you get a disq. What a shame
2012-11-19 11:53
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#491
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Brazil zylle
Sad cuz they really have a great team, amateurs admins.
2012-11-19 11:56
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#495
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Greece ChrisTop
That was nice, ahahah.
2012-11-19 11:58
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#496
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Sweden zende
Admins shouldn't disqualify a team for a .txt... People were given all demos from WRTT, 48 hrs have gone and no cheat movies have come up except the one of jw on cpl_mill (I don't think this is any proof at all - the reason people think it looks weird is because of the smoke bugs). The sequence from the VOD where xelos is supposedly tracing someone through the wall is clean, you can see how he's clearing the kitchen angles and there just happens to run a CT around the spot where his crosshair is. I really think admins should judge from the demos and not from the happenings around the players, of course it was the worst joke jw possibly could make but you still have to look at the concrete evidence and I don't think that's enough. Of course, that's only my opinion and I don't know what's going on in sozus or any other admins head right now but as it looks right now I don't think WRTT should be disqualified! It's got to be a nightmare for the admins right now, this decision is really hard to make. People should try to have an understanding for that and give the admins some time and breathing room. ;-----)
2012-11-19 11:58
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#497
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World uZME
haha if that log is 4real about Fifflaren saying nothx to EAC, then big lol 2 Xizt for being a pathological liar.
2012-11-19 11:59
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#498
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SpawN | 
Iceland vasyl86
haha, finally a good article :p
2012-11-19 12:01
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#505
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NEO | 
Poland camarpl
nobody should be blamed for this situation except for people who run online tournament without anticheat
2012-11-19 12:07
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#506
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Argentina sasez
WRTT line up?
2012-11-19 12:09
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2 replies
1>me gusta 2>u dont say 3>oh god why 4>poker face 5>forever alone
2012-11-19 12:19
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1 reply
#629
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Argentina sasez
bad joke 2012
2012-11-19 19:45
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#508
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Gux | 
Iceland TechnoKitten
Anyway - fuck these all online mixes, get a team FFS.
2012-11-19 12:12
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#511
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Germany fr0zen^
What about Schneider now :D? Is he cheating or still a fake?
2012-11-19 12:15
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#512
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ash | 
World ashhh
what a bullshit excuse lmao
2012-11-19 12:15
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#513
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Vietnam M1nh
this ESC is a shame lol, gl WRTT.
2012-11-19 12:17
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#514
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Lithuania alon9
i'd guess this is one of the reasons why VeryGames almost never plays online tournaments (except for the qualifiers to main tournament which is in lan). Anyway, i hate those things, when pro players can get above the rules while admins are doing everything in their favor.
2012-11-19 12:20
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#518
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LeX | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Oh, I smell NiP bringin' the appologies?! :O
2012-11-19 12:28
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#529
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Xizt | 
Bulgaria HellRose
And why NiP should appologies?! :O
2012-11-19 13:01
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1 reply
Because they are pulling some strings in this tournament.
2012-11-19 13:41
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#519
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Lithuania qrad
Cheaters must die.
2012-11-19 12:31
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#521
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France jaimez
I'm always right.
2012-11-19 12:31
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#524
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Romania hCTrs
Xelos games4u.se/profil/858/skarmdumpar Kabom games4u.se/profil/5867/skarmdumpar/1 jw games4u.se/profil/859/skarmdumpar All clean , i know all this guys have qualified for DH Bucharest but have not been able to come why them call cheaters when played with EAC on and pov and have proven to be good.
2012-11-19 12:38
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#528
HLTV Verified Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Xizt | 
Bulgaria HellRose
Why are you flaming NiP like its them who are deciding what to happen? Are you crazy? Blame the ones who made the decisions!
2012-11-19 13:01
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#664
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Sweden Snipatore
coz first, xizt is a fking liar (about eac) 2 - they were complaining and then they said no to eac? lol lmao fuck them
2012-11-20 20:12
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2 replies
#666
HLTV Verified Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Xizt | 
Bulgaria HellRose
imao fuck u ;)
2012-11-20 20:29
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1 reply
#668
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Sweden Snipatore
haha come :)
2012-11-20 20:31
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#531
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Poland joeb
2012-11-19 13:09
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#535
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Ukraine VATABURGER
+1
2012-11-19 13:21
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#539
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Turkey zeE!
+1
2012-11-19 13:30
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#533
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Slovakia Strenki
no proof and banned? some joke?
2012-11-19 13:16
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#536
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United Kingdom kumatwelve
How can CS:GO ever be an online eSport when things like this happen! iheartesports.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/we-..
2012-11-19 13:23
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#537
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Netherlands xant01G
retard hackers fu excuses
2012-11-19 13:23
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#540
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Venezuela sukitRon
well, at least emilio and xelos are both amazing players. Highly doubt they have anything to do with hacking
2012-11-19 13:35
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#543
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Estonia fejtz
They are clean...
2012-11-19 13:38
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#545
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Sweden badboll
It sad that people are defending WRTT´s players when they really don´t known witch background they have. If i say, once a cheater, always a cheater.
2012-11-19 13:47
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#551
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Poland fau
2012-11-19 13:58
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#558
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Slovakia kubiaxk
+1
2012-11-19 14:13
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#665
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Sweden Snipatore
don't say bullshit, many players were once cheater but never did again. ANd you cannot say that about WRTT players because 2of them are pruved in lan.
2012-11-20 20:19
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#547
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fnx | 
Norway Trypticon
+ watch the video. If you don't think that's cheat, you really haven't been around gaming long enough.
2012-11-19 13:52
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#548
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Sweden blomgren
Getting banned for a txt is just another dimension of retardness. I hope this guy isn't admin at the dreamhack tournament, I better hide all my h4XXOrTXTfiles then :$. On the other hand jw shouldn't been approaching this with such sarcasm, he should've just had contact with the thor admin to resolve the cheating accusations rather than sharing his thoughts to the whole community.
2012-11-19 13:55
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#549
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Germany kevpoodish
one more time: 1. The supposed deletion of jw's VOD never took place (sv.twitch.tv/jesperwow/b/341116061) - why does nobody at HLTV correct that part of the news? 2. youtube.com/watch?v=w-8haSl9iG0 - there's nothing suspicious to be found here (except if you have eye cancer or play since CS:GO beta). 3. Why is nobody upset about NiP supposedly having affiliations with Thor? If that's true they shouldn't be allowed to participate in the qualifier in the first place, simple as that. 4. Why don't the other teams who got beaten by WRTT get any chance to proceed (if Thor officials are positive about jw cheating)? 5. I don't think he would have opened a cheat-order confirmation in front of hundreds of people's eyes. The file he opened was vacuous because of the missing login details - even if there would have been details displayed, there would still be no proof he had the respective hack a) on his machine and b) running during that match, end of story. 6. The admins couldn't find anything suspicious in his demos. 7. Everytime I watch CS:GO, I feel like it's a bad parody of CS 1.6. 1.6 > GO, anytime of the day.
2012-11-19 14:03
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#595
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France TheblanD
"3. Why is nobody upset about NiP supposedly having affiliations with Thor? If that's true they shouldn't be allowed to participate in the qualifier in the first place, simple as that." But in that case all teams sponsored by Intel, BenQ, Steelseries, MSI, Samsung etc could never attend IEM, Dreamhack or any other event sponsored by their own sponsor? Wouldn't be much of a scene then :S
2012-11-19 15:57
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#550
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Poland micronn
Many experts in here.
2012-11-19 13:57
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#552
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Sweden kYcH
Thor ADmins statement Yesterday we took the decision to disqualify WRTT from the sixth qualifier to THOR Open. The conflict was born after the mix team beat ESC Gaming with 16-0 and NiP Gaming with 16-11, creating strong accusations against the mix team from both top players as well as players of lower establishment. This made us watch 430 rounds in total, all WRTT demos from both matches, without finding anything suspicious enough to convict the team. We're not saying there were no questionable moments, just nothing suspicious enough for them to be disqualified. Though, during this conflict, a text document saying that the WRTT player Jesper "jw" Wecksell had indeed purchased cheats from the famous cheat-developer "Organner.pl" appeared on his personal stream. Wecksell immediately hid the VOD, making it even more suspicious. In the heat of the moment, also considering all the accusations and questionable situations in the demos, we lost our trust towards the team and disqualified them. We did have in mind that this text file might had been part of a joke, and we are not saying they cheated. What we're saying is that the .txt and the hiding of the stream VOD resulted in them not being trustworthy enough to go through. In hindsight this decision might have been made a bit too rationally, not really letting Wecksell defend himself in the end. We want to give our sincere apologies for that, but the ruling still stands and we are not in any way hiding our decision. Best regards, THOR Open CS:GO Officials link:fragbite.se/?newsID=31020
2012-11-19 13:59
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#557
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Vietnam M1nh
and...? still ban WRTT? give me a break tardmin!
2012-11-19 14:10
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3 replies
#560
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Sweden kYcH
no one have been banned just disqualified from that THOR qualifier
2012-11-19 14:17
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#598
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Vietnam M1nh
i mean DQ from the tour*
2012-11-19 16:14
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#607
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Sweden kYcH
nope
2012-11-19 17:03
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#554
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Sweden tomt1
Nice one admins....not.
2012-11-19 14:00
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#559
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Belgium Sicario_
tbh I dont know if they cheated nobody does but why cant they win from ESC and NiP? they dont have a monopoly on winning everything? specially ESC is shit in CSGO
2012-11-19 14:14
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#561
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World Soleher
So newcomers brings something to the table and defeate the "big name" clans and immediately gets accused of cheating and disqualified. Does this happen alot in the Counter-Strike scene?
2012-11-19 14:30
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#566
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Sweden Polox
Half the "newcomers" are well known cheaters from 1.6. Anyway reglardless if they cheated or not, this is what happens when you act like an idiot gj GUIS
2012-11-19 14:53
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clans LOLOLOL
2012-11-19 20:23
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#563
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Slovenia antraks
great news, finnaly someone to beat the shit outta NiP&ESC GL WRTT !
2012-11-19 14:45
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#567
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Finland el_miQuel
They can be good players in 1.6 or css. They know basics of cs:go, they play gathers. No doubt! But hey! Its weekend cup, some alcohol and some cheats there and there. Usually ppl. want to take shortcuts in life. Fame,money,cash,thrills. They take em. Maby pure mathematics will solve this. Praccing time overall (played)? Luck? How much value everyone will put on these factors? 90/10%? or maby 80/20%. Maby it was a inside joke? Maby it was schneiders desktop? Win a tournament, get sponsors, get slot for lan. No one ever knows thruth behind screens @ internet. You got fame,sponsors,cash,value. Surely these guys dont feel guilty, cause world just works like that. Basically you only can achieve more, never lose anything :) Usually these comets last as long as their longest game. I MIRIN bro.
2012-11-19 14:57
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dafuq
2012-11-19 20:22
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#677
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Finland rad1um
so u cheat in csgo too ? x)
2012-11-21 11:40
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#568
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Sri Lanka xonic501
omg haha killen som var nobody för 3 år sen.
2012-11-19 15:08
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#570
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Norway memea
let em hang
2012-11-19 15:11
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#573
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Netherlands xant01G
This is how ex-cheaters get punished :) good for u hope you guys never will be accepted @ LANS , online cups etc anymore
2012-11-19 15:25
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#577
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Europe Naitee
SO stupid. Really, why shouldnt they accept them at LANs? They could show whether theyre good or bad.
2012-11-19 15:29
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4 replies
#585
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Netherlands xant01G
cheaters should be banned @ All time EX-cheaters shouldnt have the opportunity to become a progamer ARGHHH BANNBANNBANN NOT GOING TO LAN IN YOUR FAN BECAUSE YOU GOT BANN!! (SOrry im mad today bro i just get anger from all those cheaters boys)
2012-11-19 15:46
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#589
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Europe Naitee
dude calm down... and wait for your ban.
2012-11-19 15:50
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#590
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Russia Saint1
so why are delpan and n0thing still allowed to go to lans?
2012-11-19 15:51
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#591
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Netherlands xant01G
Ive had something to say about that i would kick theyre asses too but yea who am i, im just a flamer :D
2012-11-19 15:53
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#578
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Brazil towdAkiNg
cheaters... :)
2012-11-19 15:31
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#592
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
kids from sweden lol. their whole life Sux so much. lol, nobody believe snotty smelly swedish teen nerds as they are, could beat a respected team like Golden five without aid of obvious cheat. It was difficult, but correct decision by THOR
2012-11-19 15:53
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8 replies
#596
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Sweden GnagarN^
Someone is mad because they don't have any successful teams without TD.
2012-11-19 15:58
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1 reply
#652
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
I am mad at these kids, not others swedes.
2012-11-19 23:37
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#616
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India n0vaP
This reminds me of DH Summer 2011. =P Bunch of kids called "swecon". BURN.
2012-11-19 17:54
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#667
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Sweden Snipatore
you're not even sure they cheated... you're a total retard.
2012-11-20 20:31
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#672
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
shut up, they where banned, read the news. and respect other users.
2012-11-20 23:02
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#673
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Sweden Snipatore
they were banned due to what? A .txt and there wasn't even enough prufs ! + demos were clean even THOR admins apolized but they stayed on their decision coz they suck balls. + where are brazilians? :$
2012-11-20 23:06
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#674
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
I tell you what, I just jump on the opportunity to attack these people, and i fucking loved it. lol. but please dont buy organner hacks and show the entire world and then beat ESC gaming 16 - 0 , not the brigthest of ideas
2012-11-21 02:10
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#675
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Sweden Snipatore
you aren't even sure he bough organner coz on the txt file there was login and pw but with ***** so please don't say bullshit.
2012-11-21 11:12
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#597
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cyx | 
Bangladesh Stoffi
CS:GO is early in its fase and ALL teams have much more to learn, so a 16-0 result is not as surprissing as it would have been with ESC in CS 1.6 against a noname mix team. The demoes I have watched dosnt show any kind of cheat IMO, just luck, skills and good team-communication. The whole discussion about the txt. file I dont understand..:D
2012-11-19 16:05
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#599
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Finland el_miQuel
Cold fact tho is that if you dont have play times of current top teams, basically you cant win. Well you have 10% chance to win by luck. Some players will figure earlier than others, but in top levels all players are pretty equal. Then it comes to team and again praccing! :) No matter how cool guys they are, pracc and training will allway come to 1st.
2012-11-19 16:19
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#600
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China jojo20042
lan game show time
2012-11-19 16:19
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#603
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Poland Szeryf120
Pasha never joking.
2012-11-19 16:33
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#605
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Poland Eroooo
.
2012-11-19 16:41
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#606
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Poland El Vis
even if that was only joke, its good penalty for that stupid jokes. BURN
2012-11-19 16:53
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#608
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Spain percev8L
Then you should go to Dreamhack right now! How come you are not enought prepared for DH "LAN" Tourney, when you have managed to win 2 of the best team in the world @ inet? That got no sense, we all want to see you at DH owning all teams and winning the tourney! Seriously, this is so ridiculous
2012-11-19 17:08
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#617
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Greece ISENN
Ofc! When a team beats the monster they cheat. Nice logic. Admit your mistakes and let these guys compete in the finals.
2012-11-19 18:06
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#618
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World Harucifer
And all this could've been avoided if you didn't joke about cheating. Fucking retards.
2012-11-19 18:12
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#619
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Sweden Jawnt
This game has been out for three months and we already have cheaters in a big online qualify.
2012-11-19 18:21
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#621
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Bulgaria NfinitY3
haha nt but you can not convice me that you didnt cheat with 1 thread
2012-11-19 19:01
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#669
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Sweden Snipatore
but we can convince you they were cheating with 1 ? idiot.
2012-11-20 20:34
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#670
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Bulgaria NfinitY3
no, they can convice me with facts like mixed team beating esc 16-0 and nip 16-11 , busting movie, neo's opinion on Facebook etc .
2012-11-20 21:30
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#623
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Slovakia nfear1
polish are soo weak :-( i dont think there was any cheat in that game
2012-11-19 19:12
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#624
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slinger | 
Sweden slingerG
Bann without proof, professional admins. :)
2012-11-19 19:29
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#628
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
stupid cheaters -.- FLAME :@
2012-11-19 19:42
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#639
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Morocco MrMaXRisK
CHEATERS = CHICKENS
2012-11-19 20:15
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lol it's easy to manipulate files dates..
2012-11-19 20:31
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#646
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Cyprus dejavou
Chuck Norris won the world poker tournament using Pokemon cards
2012-11-19 20:54
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#648
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India TheCyn1c
1. From what it seems, THOR admins' decision seems to have the support of the notion that a new team cannot take out 1.6 pros, in a game different from 1.6. We all know how mediocre ESC could be in online games even in 1.6. I would keep that notion out of my head if I were an admin and not let anyone's celebrity status or even their online level of play get in the way of doing my job to the best of my ability. Since the proof was hazy at best,the benefit of the doubt should've gone to WRTT and 'jw.' 2. Association with THOR shouldn't be a problem unless NiP had a say in the organization/brackets/admin-decisions. 3. ESC are in no position to call the shots on how many demos should be supplied. The admin and the rulebook were superseded here, clearly. 4. The .txt file is a receipt and a fake one at that. How is that related to CS unless the usage of a hack has been seen and recorded? What's even dodgier is that the admins cleared the demos so there's no recorded "proof" of a hack being used. 5. The admin admits that WRTT were not given the time and space to clear their side of the story. I really don't see what could've stopped them from doing so!
2012-11-19 22:09
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#655
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Canada ML-
easy WRTT just needs to attend a lan and do the exact same shit and beat NiP and I'm pretty sure everybody will shut their mouth Now the real question Can they do it?
2012-11-20 01:35
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#661
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Sweden badboll
1% that they can beat them. Lan is lan.
2012-11-20 11:04
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#671
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Sweden Edvinsson
No they cant.
2012-11-20 22:34
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#659
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Sweden Flurpan
THOR is a joke that is what it comes down to a real big joke just leav E-sport, pls it's not like we need any more fail tournaments in the CS scene. THOR is sponsring NIP with computers. ofc they cant lose this tournament that would look like there computers is bad :/
2012-11-20 10:29
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#676
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United States FeetFetish
SWE mad
2012-11-21 11:15
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#678
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Europe LITHIUM=D
all im sayin is everyone knew jw was cheating in the demo/video's ;D
2012-11-22 16:27
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#679
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Twistzz | 
Netherlands  DIVERSE
nice anti-bust. though xellos got banned now at esl
2013-03-13 23:21
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#680
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Czech Republic Lichna
Nt cheaters
2016-01-02 01:52
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