New CS:GO update changes recoil

23-1-2013 21:03

Valve has released a new update for CS:GO, which sees changes being made to a number of elements of the game, including gun control.

After taking into consideration feedback from professional teams, including Ninjas in Pyjamas, VeryGames and ESC Gaming, Valve has decided to adjust the weapon balance and recoil.

As far as specific adjustments are concerned, it was announced that changes have been made to the Rifles, pistols and the P90.

Other changes include the Deathmatch mode being added to both Matchmaking and offline play, the reward for an AWP kill being increased from $50 to $100, and the price of the Terrorists' Molotov being reduced to just $500.

Below you can find the complete change log:

[ MAJOR CHANGES ]

- A new game mode has been added to matchmaking and offline play: Deathmatch.
- Weapon balance and recoil were adjusted with pro community input ( Thanks to J3Di, NiP, VeryGames, ESC, 4NOT, mTw, and FM TOXiC )
- In addition to global changes that affect all weapons, specific adjustments have been made to: rifles, pistols, and the P90.

- Weapon purchasing changes:

- The AWP's kill reward was increased from $50 to $100.
- The Glock is now a Terrorist only weapon.
- The FiveseveN is now a CT only weapon.
- The Terrorists' molotov price has been reduced to $500. The CT's incendiary grenade remains $850.
- Note that the pistol arrangement has changed in the buymenu.

- The messaging system has been converted to protobuf.

- Demos recorded with previous versions of CS:GO will not be compatible as of this update. In order to view old demos, set your 'beta' to 'demo_viewer' in the CS:GO betas property panel, in Steam. Don't forget to set it back to 'NONE' when you want to play online again.
- If you are running SourceMod on your server, you will need to update to the latest version. For details, see: http://www.sourcemod.net/index.php

[ MINOR CHANGES ]

- Added some performance improvements for low-end clients.
- Fixed some fence materials that were allowing players to see through smoke grenades.
- GOTV spectator UI will now correctly show kevlar and helmet information for players.
- Avatars will now correctly load for all players when connected to a GOTV server or when watching a demo.
- Added support to notify players during servers maintenance downtime.
- Fixed a dedicated server exploit where community dedicated servers could masquerade as official and get players searching for official game modes connected to them (saigns.de)
- Fixed a rare problem when clients matchmaking for Classic Competitive game could be stuck on green Accept screen
- Fixed a rare problem when clients could connect to a Classic Competitive game and then later be disconnected for failing to accept the match.
- Improved algorithm pinging whitelisted dedicated servers when searching for Classic Competitive games, pinging less addresses fixes occasional problems for some customers where address translation tables on their routers would fill up and their routers would fail to route required packets to display the green Accept screen.
- Added support for mm_dedicated_search_maxping to restrict client's ping when matchmaking for Classic Competitive games. ( Matchmaking algorithm will still be prioritizing best servers to minimize ping of all party members. )
- Fixed a rare server crash when bots attempted to shoot the bomb defuser.
- Fixed a client crash when downloading a lot of custom assets from community servers.

[ NOTES TO MAPMAKERS ]

- DEATHMATCH:

- Deathmatch uses the nav mesh to create spawn points. Make sure that your nav is contained within the bounds of your map to ensure that players aren't spawned outside of it. Use map_showspawnpoints to see where spawn points were generated.
- If you want to use mapper-placed spawnpoints instead of the randomly generated ones, place an info_map_parameters in your map and set usenormalspawnsfordm ("Use Normal Spawns in Deathmatch?) to true.

- WORKSHOP:

- We're launching the private beta for workshop maps. If you're a map maker, mail [email protected] with the subject "Map Workshop Beta" and your steam id in the content, with a link to maps shipped ( or maps in progress ) suitable for the Workshop.

- Please use the CSGO SDK list for discussions about Deathmatch and Workshop.

TY finaly recoil get adjust

2013-01-23 21:04

17 replies

what was wrong with it, and what's different about it? I'm still waiting for improvements in movement and walling. Currently, the game's not much different than CSS, which died competitively for a reason.

2013-01-24 01:01

13 replies

After some trys deagle now jumps like a bitch i dont realy understand mindfuck

2013-01-24 01:15

6 replies

2013-01-24 02:36

4 replies

+1 but the rest is awesome!

2013-01-24 12:56

3 replies

noooo it's not

2013-01-24 16:58

2 replies

omg noob...

2013-01-24 19:19

1 reply

-.-

2013-01-24 19:27

Yeap, it's retard

2013-01-24 13:55

how the fuck is it even close to css u absolute retard?

2013-01-24 17:27

5 replies

You heard of this thing called the source engine?

2013-01-25 01:09

2 replies

Yeah i heard dota 2 is on it, is dota 2 like css?

2013-01-25 08:31

redneck

2013-01-28 08:37

There are only small and mostly insignificant changes from CSS. Nothing drastic like movement or walling has been changed/improved. Otherwise, the game is the same. Which is exactly what their intention has been all along. They stated that their intention was to make changes to CSS without upsetting people who have been playing CSS for years. Pros are only playing it because tournaments have dropped 1.6 for it and if they want to keep being pros it's their only option.

2013-01-25 14:15

1 reply

Dude in my opinion, its as far away from 1.6 as it is from source. To play source now again, is so hard and I don't think CS:GO is nowhere near the same game as source. Movement is a lot different, recoil is a lot different in my opinion, wallbanging is different but obviously closer to source. It is a little bit closer to source, but mainly because of the wallbanging.

2013-01-25 21:32

deagle lame

2013-01-24 13:28

nice update but still a bad game.

2013-01-24 13:34

Did the rates change?

2013-01-25 16:28

2013-01-23 21:04

finally

2013-01-23 21:04

GREAT!

2013-01-23 21:04

yAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

2013-01-23 21:04

lol

2013-01-23 21:05

awesome update

2013-01-23 21:05

llooll, still no movement fix :(

2013-01-23 21:07

3 replies

Ye sadly

2013-01-23 21:44

I think duck is a bit faster now,but there is no info about it...idk...

2013-01-23 22:14

exactly , Hope they do it likewise

2013-01-24 06:23

- The Glock is now a Terrorist only weapon. - The FiveseveN is now a CT only weapon. ??

2013-01-23 21:05

20 replies

It was that in 1.6 already :p

2013-01-23 21:17

8 replies

In 1.6 cts can buy glocks...

2013-01-23 21:46

6 replies

and Ts can buy USP...

2013-01-24 00:17

2 replies

My point was that it is not like in 1.6, that's all.

2013-01-24 15:41

1 reply

I knew that #288 Just saying

2013-01-25 08:45

Yeah but no CT would buy glocks and FiveSeven was ct only, so this changes is not so important to me. And if you buy a gun, the choices is obvious for the low price p250 or the powerfull deagle now.

2013-01-24 10:03

best ct pistol round strategy on any map buy glocks and rush mid, they'll never expect it

2013-01-24 15:56

1 reply

so true

2013-01-24 16:14

hahaha

2013-01-23 22:13

like in 1.6 ??

2013-01-23 21:25

2 replies

no you can buy glock usp even if you are ct/tt

2013-01-23 22:54

1 reply

like you'd buy a glock as a ct ever. doesn't change anything.

2013-01-24 12:02

oldschool brah ))

2013-01-23 21:31

5-7 was previously a CT only pistol (makes sense vs T pistols before this update in CSGO as they had 6 pistols to buy vs 5 for CTs) Don't know why Glock is now T only, probably Valve assuming no one would buy it if they had a pistol that's worth more than the Glock as a starting pistol. Wouldn't say it's a significant problem, haven't seen any CT buy a Glock on pistol round, could make way for a new CT only pistol (?)

2013-01-24 00:47

6 replies

if they add usp it will be just pure awesomeness

2013-01-24 08:08

5 replies

The Usp is already in the game (P2000), they wont be adding the old model in. Assuming you didn't know that.

2013-01-24 10:19

4 replies

it doesnt seem as powerful as usp tho

2013-01-24 10:20

1 reply

recoil of p2000 just changed . . . this is a p250 with low armor penetration, he is great now

2013-01-24 11:17

It isn't USP dude ...

2013-01-24 17:57

1 reply

The P2000 is the Usp's replacement in real life and in GO.

2013-01-25 12:28

fucking yes

2013-01-23 21:06

now for aim punch to be taken out and its f00kin perfect

2013-01-23 21:06

7 replies

^^^^^^

2013-01-23 21:27

yes this is my major issue this moment!!! fucking aimpunch!

2013-01-23 22:34

no all you actually did was make the recoil piss easy like sAuce you actually made the game worse, spraying wise. good job you annoying cunt.

2013-01-24 01:18

2 replies

actually it was mostly NiP and VG who gave the technical info for changes so yeah sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/7.. enjoy friend xxx

2013-01-24 05:26

1.6 and source recoil is practically identical...you mad about that?

2013-01-24 19:31

The aim punch was changed previously: forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost... " Shoot in overall body with kevlar/helm = no aimpunch Shoot in head without kevlar/helm = strong aim punch Shoot in chest/stomach/balls without kevlar/helm = weak aim punch "

2013-01-24 01:57

1 reply

well why the fuck is my screen/xhair going all over the place even with kevlar & helmet

2013-01-24 17:35

sooooo , what did they precisely changed with the recoil? Can we finally spray like in 1.6 cause before it was impossible <:

2013-01-23 21:06

14 replies

tapping is made easier along with spraying. its not identical to 1.6 or CSS, i guess its a little mixture of both to make it unique. Aim punch is still in though so imo you cant really feel it as much as you should be able to. hopefully we can get valve to take it out

2013-01-23 21:07

8 replies

hmm , okay :D

2013-01-23 21:10

they made it more noob friendly?

2013-01-23 21:25

3 replies

they made it more similar to 1.6/css so if you consider both of those noob friendly then yeah i guess they have. svettiga fisken

2013-01-23 22:06

2 replies

did they change anything in regards to strafing side to side and spraying?

2013-01-23 23:02

Did they fix the ADADADADADADADADAD?

2013-01-24 14:12

I like the aimpunch tbh

2013-01-23 21:48

2 replies

Yes but at the moment you also have aim punch when you are shot at even if you have armour. That's what he means

2013-01-23 22:01

1 reply

It got changed before: forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost... " Shoot in overall body with kevlar/helm = no aimpunch Shoot in head without kevlar/helm = strong aim punch Shoot in chest/stomach/balls without kevlar/helm = weak aim punch "

2013-01-23 23:06

It looks really decent so far, M4 and AK actually feels very close to 1.6 recoil pattern.

2013-01-23 21:27

3 replies

ak is exactly the 1.6 one now

2013-01-24 11:20

2 replies

far_from

2013-01-24 15:10

static1.blip.pl/user_generated/update_pi..

2013-01-24 16:35

I remember playing my first hours of GO, spraying with the ak was fckng frustrating :@

2013-01-23 21:37

sick

2013-01-23 21:06

wohoooooo valve fixed recoil... phenomenal :P

2013-01-23 21:07

hugee

2013-01-23 21:08

OMG OMG I HAPPY

2013-01-23 21:08

Yeah, great. And now I just can't connect to ANY server.

2013-01-23 21:09

5 replies

Because they have to be updated, hardly Valves fault..

2013-01-23 21:10

2 replies

Aww, right, thanks for info.

2013-01-23 21:16

1 reply

always read full article :-D

2013-01-24 06:03

same here

2013-01-23 21:10

well atleast i can't even try the silencer for m4 or usp with bot server or is it only because bot server?

2013-08-15 15:25

After q quick look: - spraying got easier - way more inaccurate while ADADADADADing = good - bursting a bit harder = good - tapping seems to be easier Regards

2013-01-23 21:10

Fucking right.

2013-01-23 21:11

I still have not received this update, come on I want to try it!!!! restarted steam and got it!

2013-01-23 21:20

finally

2013-01-23 21:12

FINALLY !

2013-01-23 21:12

finally now just add wallbanging again :@

2013-01-23 21:12

6 replies

you can wallbang in go...

2013-01-23 21:20

5 replies

only wooden doors and very very thin surfaces. Before the last patch if you played in a linux server you could wb thin walls. Imo thats how it should be not like in 1.6 (wb everything) or CSS (wb almost nothing)

2013-01-23 21:29

4 replies

its not only thin walls in go.... you need to play some more go :D in source its only metal, wood and doors... in go you can shoot though stone walls aswell... not like 1.6... but well enough

2013-01-23 21:46

3 replies

not since last patch

2013-01-23 21:46

2 replies

Oh for real, that sucks. So you cant spam all the small concrete walls on nuke anymore for example ?

2013-01-23 22:07

1 reply

thats right. Take a look youtube.com/watch?v=bvQJykP-MMY&feature=..

2013-01-23 22:12

good stuff! will be testing this tomorrow

2013-01-23 21:13

The messaging system has been converted to protobuf What is this?

2013-01-23 21:14

3 replies

It's a more efficient form of server-client communication. It is a vast improvement and will benefit mods like sourcemod, etc.

2013-01-23 21:17

makes updating and demo's easier to manage, ie any updates that follow this means you won't need to use an old version of the engine.

2013-01-23 21:26

1 reply

that sounds great :D

2013-01-24 14:47

OOOOOO YEAHHH ! !! !

2013-01-23 21:14

well its seems to be okay, but why did the have to destroy the deagle :S

2013-01-23 21:14

2 replies

they destroyed this indeed. its like holding a fish u just caught. its ROAjrkladjoiajfdlkaj around...

2013-01-23 22:41

well imo they did not exactlyy destroy the deagle.. they made it super op. its the best weapon in the game now by far.

2013-01-24 17:38

my game was just updated and I cant connect to any server, only lan game worked. is it only me or anyone has same problem?

2013-01-23 21:14

5 replies

:S :S

2013-01-23 21:17

The servers have to be updated. Be patient :)

2013-01-23 21:28

The servers have to be updated :)

2013-01-23 21:28

No.

2013-01-23 21:29

Server providers have to update. They are still on the old version

2013-01-23 22:30

Holy shit... this is incredible update i just tested and all i can say is thank you pro teams involved.. you really made the game enjoyable for me now.. Thank you so much i love this..

2013-01-23 21:16

6 replies

no one takes seriously your posts, fanboy.

2013-01-24 00:54

5 replies

Nobody cares about your comments, kid.

2013-01-24 02:04

1 reply

2013-01-24 02:11

same applies to you

2013-01-24 12:06

2 replies

same applies to you

2013-01-24 13:16

1 reply

aww gee thanks, too bad i haven't really posted anything

2013-01-25 10:19

2013-01-23 21:17

OK now fix servers thx

2013-01-23 21:18

Taping feels great

2013-01-23 21:19

:)))))))))))))) Now silencers please

2013-01-23 21:22

2 replies

any other wishes? lol

2013-01-23 21:24

1 reply

wb :))

2013-01-23 21:29

fuck yeah

2013-01-23 21:21

feels good!

2013-01-23 21:22

Sick

2013-01-23 21:23

lol guys try to shot fast with deagle xDDDD

2013-01-23 21:23

2 replies

earthquake ? :D

2013-01-23 21:30

yeah wtf the screen just jerks to the left and feels retawded

2013-01-24 11:13

fucking SICK.

2013-01-23 21:24

OMG...ok, after some more testing: - spraying: WAAAAY to easy. This is a joke. Since the pattern is 100% the same every time this is way to easy... - tapping: fine - bursting: fine - ADADADADAD: fine - quickscoping: wtf? sometimes random as fuck....wtf is this shit? -.- Spraying and quickscoping was better before....

2013-01-23 21:24

68 replies

"Antix <3 CSP" Lets not kid ourselfs pal

2013-01-23 21:26

6 replies

You Stole My Words! >.<

2013-01-23 21:28

hahah didnt even see it. this guy is rediculous

2013-01-23 21:28

csp is very very decent for a beta tbh

2013-01-23 22:37

2 replies

How about for a beta thats 5+ years old?

2013-01-24 05:03

1 reply

They didnt work all five years as they said..

2013-01-24 16:13

At least he tested the game and gave his honest opinion. Unlike some people who keep supporting valve and CS GO no matter how bad the updates are(like you). Take valve's dick out of your mouth and start making some sense. Or better stop spending every second of your life on forums trying to fight with people. Nice update btw. If they keep listening to the players I am sure it can only get better in the future

2013-01-24 22:12

you come to conclusions fast the updates barely been out 10 minutes

2013-01-23 21:28

"Since the pattern is 100% the same every time this is way to easy..." like in 1.6, there was no 'random spray'

2013-01-23 21:29

41 replies

haha....don't make a fool of yourself. In 1.6 the spray sometimes grouped left, sometimes right..which was random. Always great to see how fucking clueless people are....hahaha

2013-01-23 21:30

39 replies

huh?no it did not lol

2013-01-23 21:37

11 replies

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNkVLX9U9ts Yeah? It did not? So you wanna tell me there was no "bug" in the recoil that made bullets group and made the patterns random? You wanna tell me Steve Kramer, the lead designer of CS:GO, told the whole community bullshit? Really? Always great to see how fucking clueless fanboys are....hilarious. Next time maybe at least get to know A BIT before you make a fool of yourself on the internet.

2013-01-23 21:53

9 replies

first of all,dont get agressive on me because i didnt get agressive on you second of all that video is bad proof because the guy is clearly lagging and if you have any doubts shoot 10000kkkk bullets standind always on the same spot,see if the recoil changes LOL fucking hilarious

2013-01-23 21:59

8 replies

1.6 had random recoil patterns, end of story.

2013-01-23 22:01

5 replies

it has maximum of 2 patterns,its not most of the times random :P

2013-01-23 22:02

4 replies

even in my video you already see 3. the first 2 ones were nearly identical ...the last 2 ones were totally different. max. 2 you say? Cmon...admit you were wrong as fuck and now take your defeat like a man ffs.

2013-01-23 22:06

11 patterns

2013-01-24 02:41

1 reply

12 carn told me xd

2013-01-24 15:20

12*

2013-01-24 15:21

1. the guy isn't lagging, since i did this 5 minutes ago offline ...the sound is out of sync cuz of latest OBS version 2. 1.6 has random patterns. point. i could make 10000000000000 videos and they would all show the same: random patterns. Shall i make another one with the ak? only for you? The only thing thats hilarious is that you clearly don't know shit about 1.6. No matter how hard you try... Want to proove me wrong? Go make a video of 1.6, where you fire 4 ak magazines full auto ...according to you the pattern will be always the same, as in go... you know what? Sadly it isnt... Go ahead, i've provided proof....your turn.

2013-01-23 22:05

1 reply

why bother talking to hltv-kidz. ofc you are right, but there is no point in talking to 99% of the users on here cause they have no clue of cs.

2013-01-24 14:42

yes it did. Buy an AK and shoot the 30 bullets without moving the mouse. It makes like a "7" shape. Now do it again, it probably makes an "inverse 7". Also there is like a "T". It's not always the same pattern in 1.6

2013-01-23 22:07

sure, ive always had same perfect recoil, retard

2013-01-23 21:38

16 replies

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNkVLX9U9ts Dunno what 1.6 you "played" .... and btw: this random bullet grouping were hardcoded into the recoil of 1.6 ... just to educate you, so you don't make the same mistake again, its quite embarrassing....

2013-01-23 21:54

15 replies

Ive played counter-strike since 99 and 1.6 surely has 1 recoil pattern an thats T.. nothing else to say about this. only with registerbug Ive came across banana shaped spray pattern to the left.. otherwise NEVER.

2013-01-24 17:42

14 replies

youtube.com/watch?v=vOHp86z-_r4 nough said... now go and learn something about 1.6. People STILL don't know 1.6 has random patterns...my god....

2013-01-24 17:49

8 replies

u just shot 4 T patterns on the wall? LOL

2013-01-24 18:22

7 replies

wow..thx for the prove you must be really really mentally challenged. gg. U said 1.6 has only 1 pattern, i show u a video where the m4 actually shoots different 4 times... good job :D If i could i'd give you the award for the most mentally challenged dude in here, but that already went to another guy.

2013-01-24 18:25

6 replies

U really don't see the "T" ? All 4 times the same...

2013-01-24 19:34

5 replies

and how is the "T" build? 1. Pattern: goes up, left for a long time, goes right for a few bullets 2. Pattern: goes up, changes directions the whole time 3. Pattern: up, right for a long time, quick left and then right again 4. Pattern: up, right for a long time and then left for last few bullets Those are 4 different patterns ... and therefore u have to move your mouse different for all 4. In GO its: up, bullets 7-12 left, start to go right, a few bullets right, 20th bullet will start to go left again. And this will happen roughly EVERY time. Not like in 1.6 ... as u can CLEARLY see. You really don't see that?

2013-01-24 19:44

4 replies

The result is T every time. Up and then left/right or right/left but still T. Nothing more to say...

2013-01-25 13:20

3 replies

man....u are so fucking wrong and still think you are right, even after valid proof. Even j3di confirmed my statement in chat after the stream yesterday . GG... stop making a fool of yourself...

2013-01-25 13:37

2 replies

Everybody who watched your video knows who is the "fool" here. Btw. I'm not saying that there is only one pattern, I don't disagree with you that there are more of them, I wouldn't even reply to you, but I just checked your video because I was curious and you just have to admit that you sprayed T every time, you can draw lines on all of them and it will be T, just the way you sprayed the T was different every time.

2013-01-26 10:22

1 reply

"Even j3di confirmed my statement in chat after the stream yesterday ." "and how is the "T" build? 1. Pattern: goes up, left for a long time, goes right for a few bullets 2. Pattern: goes up, changes directions the whole time 3. Pattern: up, right for a long time, quick left and then right again 4. Pattern: up, right for a long time and then left for last few bullets Those are 4 different patterns ... and therefore u have to move your mouse different for all 4. In GO its: up, bullets 7-12 left, start to go right, a few bullets right, 20th bullet will start to go left again. And this will happen roughly EVERY time. Not like in 1.6 ... as u can CLEARLY see. You really don't see that?" Now stop being annoying...wtf...

2013-01-26 12:45

u say u've played since '99 but u don't seem to know anything about the finnish cs scene what i've read on these forums... stop lying to yourself :D

2013-01-25 11:05

4 replies

well guess what I was 9years old that time, no wonder I did not follow the cs scene before 2001-2002, the time of cb teams like cascades, clan z, genocide, ewok(afterwards known as ocrana.d-link) etc.

2013-01-26 14:34

3 replies

then i guess there's no point in trying to act like you know something about the finnish cs scene back then if u really have no clue? ;D u're just misleading others who might wanna know more about the finnish scene with false information...

2013-01-26 16:39

2 replies

like there was a big scene before that in finland?

2013-01-26 22:13

1 reply

did i say so? :D nice conversation dude...

2013-01-27 11:24

u failed, shut up

2013-01-23 22:30

2 replies

Good argumentation. Is that what they teach you in kindergarten? Hm.... hope u hit preschool soon.

2013-01-23 22:31

1 reply

so you do know what preschool is from your older brother

2013-01-28 09:25

It wasn't random, you just didn't learned how to control it.

2013-01-24 00:05

6 replies

youtube.com/watch?v=vOHp86z-_r4 Strange...must be a bug no one noticed since 1.6 came out...really strange... *facepalm*

2013-01-24 17:50

5 replies

Tip1: download/pov -> SpawN, Slow motion 1/4 Tip2: look again to the video you linked. Tip3: Do a try record and watch in 1/4.

2013-01-24 18:53

4 replies

Why shall i do that? test it yourself and stop talking bullshit ffs. Even Valve devs/HPE say 1.6 has random patterns .... caused by a flaw in the recoil code. GG. smartypants...next time brain on and retard-mode off. Prove me wrong...go go. Record a video where you shoot 4 AK magazines .... according to you and other retards we'd see the same pattern 4 times. Go go ... at least i can provide prove, u can't do shit. GG.

2013-01-24 19:01

3 replies

God sake, everyone is wrong, and you're right, ok then.

2013-01-24 19:04

2 replies

Man, srsly..if you think im wrong: prove it. easy as that. Do a video ... show me im wrong. For now i haven't seen a single video from guys like you .... why? because u can't prove it.... simple as that. I'm the one providing prove...everyone else without a clue just flames without providing proof. Great guys....really smart...

2013-01-24 19:09

1 reply

If you know a bit of programing you would really know what random really means. There's a minimum and maximum vallue attributed for a especific area range, that's why i'm telling you it isn't fully random, also you can try the 3 tips I gave you, do whatever you want I don't need to do a video 4 u.

2013-01-24 19:27

the patterns had a lot of variety. spray 10 times on a wall und you get 10 similar but still different spray patterns.

2013-01-24 13:20

you mean like in CSP? xD cos that how it is in csp/1.6

2013-01-23 21:30

15 replies

- bursting: about the same in both games - tapping: about the same in both games - quickscoping: 100% accurate in CSP, random in GO - spraying: 100% same pattern every time in GO, not in CSP/1.6 Your point?

2013-01-23 21:32

14 replies

his point: csgo>all

2013-01-23 21:42

-people playoing csgo:25-30k -people playing csp :paulo zaihtam focus antix xen and bots

2013-01-23 21:51

12 replies

People playing 1.6: over 50k. Your point? More players = better game? Ok....i can live with that....

2013-01-23 21:55

10 replies

people playing 1.6 50k people playing csp 15

2013-01-23 21:56

9 replies

So whats your point? In case you just want to be 100% annoying: good job!

2013-01-23 21:57

8 replies

You're actually the annoying guy here. This update must be a punch in the face for you "VALVE DOSENT DO SHIT" kids. You are on the path to realize that CSP will not the next big FPS game, CS:GO will. This update will attract way more players cause it actually feels pretty close to 1.6. GG CSP, it was fun while it lasted

2013-01-23 22:50

7 replies

Ok, i just shared my opinion and get attacked by clueless morons, and im the annoying guy? Another fanboy spotted. gg. Way too hilarious....hahahaha :D

2013-01-23 22:51

3 replies

How are we the "clueless morons" when you're the one supporting a game wich has been in beta stage for the past 5 or 6 years? I'm not a fanboy, im just fed up with you CSPers taking every chance you can to trashtalk CS:GO, even if theres an major update that improves the game A LOT. Go masturbate to the CSP update log, clueless moron.

2013-01-23 22:54

2 replies

You should gather your 2 braincells and read my post. Were did i trashtalk cs:go? Tell me..pls..would really like to read it. I stated my opinion, which included good and bad change, people started to trashtalk csp, without even knowing shit ...like 1.6 had random recoil. Tell me...where did i "trashtalk" cs:go. I just stated my opinion, which included good and bad things in this change. Geezus...kids these days....

2013-01-23 23:05

1 reply

I also stated my opinion. Read your own posts cause you're making yourself look like a fool

2013-01-24 13:59

This update must be a punch in the face for you "VALVE DOSENT DO SHIT" kids. Just wanted to say Half-Life 2: Episode 3

2013-01-24 00:20

1 reply

2013-01-24 00:26

"it actually feels pretty close to 1.6" No, it doesn't. If you call this "close" CSS would be ultra-hyper-close to 1.6.

2013-01-24 13:15

thats for naming me , i must be famous

2013-01-24 13:56

I wasnt a big fan of CS:GO myself but with this update the game feels great..now you can spray 4 men down

2013-01-24 00:10

1 reply

Man, i've played CS:GO competitively for over half a year, this recoil change made things some things better, and some worse. I honestly don't understand why it suddenly feels "great" to you.... with only this change, that was....ok, but not great... there's still a lot wrong with the game.

2013-01-24 01:12

MESSAGE_END called with not active message. It's engine error after the update. How can I fix that?

2013-01-23 21:24

1 reply

some solution? same error here?

2013-01-23 22:38

Silencer, awp kill reward to 300, smg|shotgun kill reward to 300, usp and a bit of movement:) and its done i think,

2013-01-23 21:29

anyone know anything about silencer patch?

2013-01-23 21:27

4 replies

No silencer, mate. I guess you read Xizt's facebook status? He was trolling

2013-01-23 21:29

3 replies

he wrote "YET", so there is a hope! :D

2013-01-24 04:33

2 replies

You're right, maybe due to the collaboration between the pro teams and Valve he knows there's a silencer coming and thought it would come out yesterday. That'd be GREAT. If the silencer comes out in some near time

2013-01-24 16:19

1 reply

they must make it and will 4 sure!

2013-01-24 19:31

everythings very nice, burst fire is harder now :| shouldn't moved pistols around, now deagle is #5 instead of #4, but I'll get used to it I guess..

2013-01-23 21:32

It only took a million years... I sure hope this is better!

2013-01-23 21:29

nice update tbh! :)

2013-01-23 21:29

nice recoil change :D

2013-01-23 21:30

AK and M4 are heaps better. Is it just me or does the HKP2000 feel like its lagging when you try to fire it fast?

2013-01-23 21:30

update by update they are tweaking the game to be more and more like 1.6. the smell of fail got them

2013-01-23 21:31

Now everyone can play it :D

2013-01-23 21:32

5 replies

Bot movements, sorry.

2013-01-23 21:52

4 replies

Why shall valve do everything easy for all nopros players. We will now see low teams beating high teams.

2013-01-23 22:31

3 replies

actually that would be great!!

2013-01-23 22:39

"We will now see low teams beating high teams." it happens many times in CS:GO

2013-01-24 00:28

1 reply

Now it will happen even more. Good fps-players did show off when GO started. Now some noobs will getting better.

2013-01-24 00:44

what about awp

2013-01-23 21:32

And.... they fuck'd up the game.

2013-01-23 21:32

3 replies

true

2013-01-23 22:16

+1 i liked the game like it was...u can play, but pistols are overpowered,i got 1 hit from deagle in stomach (-91),and i had kevlar

2013-01-23 23:18

1 reply

HEY CS:GO FANBOYS, wasnt your strongest argument "its a new game, play it, enjoy it, learn it!"?????? guys..... its A NEW GAME AGAIIN! ENJOY! go spend another 500 hours to learn the recoil, it was so much fun and enjoyment to learn the recoil, wasnt it??? :) ps. good update!

2013-01-24 17:28

Yea, nice update and this is good "The Terrorists' molotov price has been reduced to $500." so CT's can't buy fire in first round this is nice, they can't stop rush with fire :) NICE VALVE!

2013-01-23 21:33

3 replies

ct's could never buy a molotov in first round!

2013-01-23 21:34

1 reply

I know LOL! I mean Valve isn't change price of Molo for CTS..

2013-01-23 22:07

HAHAHA

2013-01-23 21:51

Whoooooho!! you know, i've always criticized valve for the way they treated this "1.6 - GO" move, but this was a nice move to show that they care about the 1.6 community enough to change such a part of the game as the recoil :)

2013-01-23 21:34

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet R.I.P 1.old

2013-01-23 21:38

ye the aimpunch should be reduced ,but way to go valve!!!

2013-01-23 21:38

I think with this update game gonna be more competitive when we compared with top teams

2013-01-23 21:38

3 replies

I think so to, now all the top team gun control wise should be around the same level, nip wont have as much as an advantage I hope

2013-01-23 21:42

2 replies

so the game have to be more easy/random for weaker team to have a chance? bad logic

2013-01-23 23:14

1 reply

Could u tell me in what way this new recoil is random, u idiot.

2013-01-23 23:15

So, Steam Workshop for CSGO is coming. Well, that puts a end to GameBanana then.

2013-01-23 21:38

1 reply

2013-01-23 21:42

I destroyed bots on aim_map #badAzz

2013-01-23 21:39

BESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT CSGO <33333333333333333333

2013-01-23 21:40

nice change on the p90 they increased the recoil while u move <3,finally

2013-01-23 21:41

NIIICEE ! *-*

2013-01-23 21:41

Yeahhh big update :D

2013-01-23 21:42

omg how sick this update is AHHAHHAHA GG NIP

2013-01-23 21:42

3 replies

why gg nip? this update affects all players

2013-01-23 22:21

2 replies

BUT NOT with scream ;) Much easier for tapping, so much easier the dA-k1nG ;)

2013-01-24 02:23

1 reply

deagle is stronger you know what I mean? ;) haahhaha

2013-01-24 04:38

Ohhhh yeah!

2013-01-23 21:43

They should add the silencer i know its m4a4 but still we had a silencer on the colt in all cs version..it adds style to the game aswell

2013-01-23 21:43

the game was awesome, now its perfect.

2013-01-23 21:44

NO DM SERVER ! :(

2013-01-23 21:45

for the moment.. i have to say to my point.. that the deagle must be refixed cuz obviously its a major error with that recoil

2013-01-23 21:45

1 reply

60/80 dmg per hit . . . hopefully he got this recoil

2013-01-24 11:25

This update is good but i got huge fps drops after this update, before i had 250-300 now it drops to 150 even to 10.

2013-01-23 21:46

4 replies

Same

2013-01-23 22:01

1 reply

+1 wtf?

2013-01-23 22:02

Thought it was just my pc

2013-01-23 23:45

same here

2013-01-24 18:34

dis is naiceee

2013-01-23 21:46

hope they fix respawns on tdm its annoying to respawn in a dark room outside the map

2013-01-23 21:48

did ESC tell them to fuck up deagle with those bumps because of ScreaM? :-(

2013-01-23 21:48

4 replies

Cool story bro:D

2013-01-23 23:31

In some ways they made it better, its a two shot kill in the chest now from across the map. 70 dmg in the chest from afar is a pretty big joke

2013-01-23 23:50

2 replies

yeh thats pretty retarded though

2013-01-24 01:04

2 shots in feet at long range make a kill too.

2013-01-24 11:26

Yayyy! :)

2013-01-23 21:51

great patch ;)

2013-01-23 21:51

change freaking tickrate, please :(

2013-01-23 21:53

2 replies

"Fixed a rare problem that we were retarded to see: tickrate in competitive matchmaking has been improved from 64 to 128" That should be next update :D

2013-01-23 23:29

1 reply

:DDD

2013-01-24 08:31

now fix inferno and train

2013-01-23 21:56

6 replies

that is down to the community, and anyway inferno doesnt need "fixing". Train does I will agree.

2013-01-23 21:57

4 replies

A bomb site is fcking retarded. Its so hard to see people especially in dark places. It would be great if they remove the unecessary rubbish and make maps more simpler like in 1.6 and source.

2013-01-23 22:00

3 replies

Im not sure what game you are playing but A bombsite doesnt have dark places, and you can see quite clear on the bombsite.

2013-01-23 22:12

1 reply

People blend into the map a whole lot easier than any cs in the past. Some dude made a D2 which fixed that significantly but it still had bugs in it and then stopped updating it.

2013-01-24 01:47

go and play 1.6 or source then, you play it for money? is it your job?

2013-01-24 00:31

LEAVE INFERNO ALONE!

2013-01-24 07:29

great, now just change sounds, movement and graphics and maybe you'll get 3% of former 1.6 players to join to the dark side

2013-01-23 21:57

3 replies

3%??? ahahah

2013-01-24 10:48

2 replies

just a random number i came up with to express a small amount of players =) this update is clearly just an attempt to persuade former 1.6 players who haven't made the switch yet to play CS:GO.

2013-01-24 14:56

1 reply

read the steam forums and you yourself will understand everything, it was not an attempt to entice players 1.6, they wrote that unhappy shooting

2013-01-24 16:10

I used to see a lot of haters here, people are dealing with it :)

2013-01-23 21:58

wtf after this update it looks like I have aimbot when shooting with the deagle

2013-01-23 21:59

2 replies

Yeah all pistols now feel heaps weird, except the glock really. Feels like im playing with 200 ms yet im in my own server. Everyone is going to use burst fire on glock now it feels pretty good and is accurate

2013-01-23 22:02

1 reply

+1 Burst in glock is really nice atm.

2013-01-23 22:14

Nice update, now i play CS:GO :) but little bit need update for sound, movement...

2013-01-23 22:01

fucking awesome finnaly

2013-01-23 22:09

Pistols are sh*t. Imo the old recoil was better i dunno.

2013-01-23 22:12

1 reply

++++1

2013-01-23 23:33

please improve AWP's recoil

2013-01-23 22:13

1 reply

In what way ?

2013-01-24 07:33

what have they done to pistols? cba to open game

2013-01-23 22:15

after playing some rounds against bots i can say that the recoil is now more similar to 1.6, tapping became very effective (finally) , spraying feels like being more accurate with the usual 1.6 control efforts. glock burst is excellent but the desert eagle is weird, tho if you just shoot 1 bullet then wait until the weapon stops moving then fire again is still effective. also i have more fps than before. i still miss the 1.6 awp noscoping but its not that important for me, and the silencer would be welcomed. cheers

2013-01-23 22:18

si-len-cer,please.

2013-01-23 22:17

I get a error after this update: "ENGINE ERROR MESSAGE_END called with no active message"

2013-01-23 22:18

1 reply

some solution? same error here!

2013-01-23 22:39

who tested it it's more like 1.6 or what? too lazy 4 update and test it.

2013-01-23 22:19

BEST UPDATE! BEST SHOOTING! OLDSCHOOL! LOVE!

2013-01-23 22:19

waiting for : m4a4 silencer matchmaking ammo_grenade_flash 2 add _se maps and some official maps on matchmaking (de_mill_b2 , de_cache ...)

2013-01-23 22:19

5 replies

+++1agree

2013-01-23 23:35

and tick 128

2013-01-24 00:33

1 reply

yep ofc matchamking systheme is false :(

2013-01-24 17:16

and 1:45 roundtime

2013-01-24 04:42

we think the account of a silencer and a possible imbalance because of him

2013-01-24 11:03

Still cant open my really old demos "WARNING: Server demo version 12020, client version 12154" Whens that gonna be fixed? Can´t view demos from before they fixed that deathnotice bug on demos.

2013-01-23 22:19

12 replies

The compatibility with old demos might be quite restricted in time thus really old demos may not be covered and thus remain lost.

2013-01-23 22:31

7 replies

Do you have any idea what so ever of it will be fixed anytime soon? I got alot of demos that i cant play.

2013-01-23 22:52

6 replies

Mayor demo playback compatibility should be indeed fixed any time soon, even though I presume the 'Demo_viewer' option seems to mean that Valve are working in that direction. But as said I don't think you can expect that 'fix' to be available for all past demos but only for those closest to the time when the work on this 'fix' started.

2013-01-23 22:57

5 replies

Actually, as a customer it´s something that i pretty much demand, because all the demos are from AFTER the release of the full game, so i´d like to have access to all the features of the game, they fucked it up so they should fix it. I´d be pretty damn butthurt if they dont manage to fix it , i gotaround 20 highlights against top scandinavian teams. Well well, guess i´ll just have to wait and see.

2013-01-23 23:18

4 replies

I understand your point but I think you have to bear in mind that bug fixes may affect features of the full game like f.e. demos recorded at a certain time. In the same way changes to that full game, and not necessarily bug related ones, may have the same effects. In the end I don't think there is much you can do but, as said, the demo_viewer option seems to hint that the demos compatibility is finally something that is being taken into account by Valve as it is a much needed feature both for common players and highlight/movies professionals.

2013-01-23 23:30

2 replies

well, the demos worked fine before, so release another demo_viewer or whatever, where the old demos works, they should know how to do that sense the demos worked before they started patching.

2013-01-24 00:04

1 reply

It might happen if the demo_viewer option goes 'full' too as right now it is still listed under 'betas'. But as said, at least as far as I see it, you shouldn't put all your hope in it.

2013-01-24 00:29

Actually as a costumer you don't really have any right to demand anything, you don't even own the game, you just own a license to play the game. You should read the EULA :) And the reason why old demos wont work it's a bit like trying to use an old map (or an out of date GPS) to get to somewhere. The demo is telling the engine that something should be at location X, but that location doesn't exist in the new version or was moved to somewhere else, so the engine doesn't really know what to do with the information that the demo is sending. It's something that it's fixable, and from what i can gather it will be added in the future but like Jonathan said it will probably only work with demos made after a certain engine version (basically the process to play old demos might involve having to have all versions of the maps and whatnot available in order to show the demo properly)

2013-01-24 20:12

You need to enable "demo_viewer" under "betas". Go to steam library -> right click on CS:GO -> Properties -> Betas (tab) -> enable "Demo_viewer". Remember to set it back to "None" when you need to play.

2013-01-23 22:51

2 replies

Yes it works, but not on all demos , some are still out of date.

2013-01-23 22:53

1 reply

There'll always be some hiccups unfortunately. :)

2013-01-23 23:17

need update server

2013-01-24 11:04

we are one duck away from a decent game :)

2013-01-23 22:21

We want recoil updates, it's too hard and i'm awful !!11!!111 > *update released* > omg huehuehue it's too easy, I can beat NiP single handedly )))))))))))))) Good job VALVe.

2013-01-23 22:21

need silencer in m4

2013-01-23 22:22

Finally change recoil !

2013-01-23 22:22

How can I enable csdm?

2013-01-23 22:24

Nice patch, but they need to release hotfix asap.

2013-01-23 22:26

DEAGLE is OP

2013-01-23 22:33

3 replies

or worth the money..

2013-01-23 22:35

1 reply

Just does too much damage. Its like a fucking autosniper now lol, damagewise.

2013-01-23 23:16

2013-01-24 10:13

Deagle is way to op, 1hit from long to upper b2, 80dmg, And you can also shot 1 bullet through the door and 1 shot him with hax...

2013-01-23 22:36

nicee

2013-01-23 22:37

WTF I played cs:go for 500 hours to learn the aim and now VALVE change it WTF

2013-01-23 22:38

5 replies

Don´t hate VALVE, hate the players who didn´t learn the aim after 3000 hours :D

2013-01-23 22:41

2 replies

i have 1K :DDD

2013-01-24 11:05

this

2013-01-24 11:42

recoil changes were commonplace for years when cs was first released....if you are any good at the game, you will adapt. its not like everyone doesnt have to as well.

2013-01-23 22:41

If it takes you 500 hours to learn the recoil, there's something wrong.

2013-01-24 05:16

Just as I was starting to like the spray pattern and shit..

2013-01-23 22:43

the most major thing about this update is p90 nerfing no more running and shooting headshots!!! cs:go is in the right direction!! for me they should remove aimpunch, make the crosshair to follow the recoil, reintroduce wallbanging, remove the jumping sound while you are standing still, and yo we have a proper game (for the 1.6 community and me ofc)

2013-01-23 22:47

1 reply

exactly :)

2013-01-24 07:29

Why the Glock Is T's Only? The Tec-9 Is Already a T's Only Pistol

2013-01-23 22:50

feels like they made spraying easier, i don't get it. Why not make spraying more difficult to increase the skill ceiling of the game? nobody should beable to spray, if u don't aim at peoples heads u shouldn't be rewarded for being bad.

2013-01-23 22:50

5 replies

2013-01-23 22:53

2013-01-23 22:56

cool story bro , go back to esea now .

2013-01-23 23:39

making it more difficult = making it more random, less skilled...

2013-01-24 17:24

It was much easier to spray in 1.6 than it is in GO and look how successful that was. Though tbh, I didn't really think the recoil was the issue, it was always the movement that was the worst thing.

2013-01-24 18:09

i have now low fps shit update!

2013-01-23 23:01

1 reply

same

2013-01-24 07:03

This game isnt playable anymore: Deagle Bodyhit (with Kevlar): 70dmg Deagle HS (with Helm): 350 Tec9 HS (with Helm) 110 Glock HS (with Helm): 95, (without Helm): 110 ........ pistols way too strong

2013-01-23 23:02

11 replies

nice, now we don't have a 3-0/2-0 automatically when a team win the pistol round.

2013-01-23 23:06

5 replies

2013-01-24 00:06

Yeah indeed, deffo gonna see some sick eco rounds :)

2013-01-24 08:30

1 reply

it may be interesting

2013-01-24 11:07

and all pistols have recoil changes

2013-01-24 12:07

which means that everyone buys deagles on pistolround and plays with them on the antieco aswell cause deagle>any of the smg

2013-01-24 18:40

2013-01-23 23:39

they just fixed it...fuck me...did u think they would keep those changes??

2013-01-24 01:51

Well those pistols were pretty useless before. Or not worth the money.

2013-01-24 02:07

you could just say it's different, teams will adapt

2013-01-24 03:35

1 reply

rah has spoken /closethread

2013-01-24 18:11

now all the noob can think they are ScreaM

2013-01-23 23:05

1 reply

Now everyone can play like scream.

2013-01-23 23:18

good! now un update for fps plz

2013-01-23 23:06

good! now an update for fps plz

2013-01-23 23:08

p250 costs 300 now wonder why thats not in the notes.

2013-01-23 23:08

youtube.com/watch?v=8eKWabQNKC0&feature=.. SOMEONE PLEASE FIX THIS GAME WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

2013-01-23 23:09

7 replies

true

2013-01-23 23:17

I agree. I think the update was good but p90 still need fixing.

2013-01-23 23:21

I wish i knew why =(

2013-01-23 23:36

because of reasons.

2013-01-23 23:37

ex mtw steel?:D

2013-01-23 23:40

Cpt. Kirk: "Why...is this..in..the game."

2013-01-24 03:20

hahhaah good one valve! Nice video Mr.DaZeD

2013-01-24 08:25

OK I'll be honest right now. I was totally against CS:GO, I absolutely hated it (was 1.6er of course). Haven't played it for 6 or so weeks. Tried out the new updates... absolutely fucking love this game.

2013-01-23 23:13

4 replies

cause you re too noob to adapt? now it feel a lot easier with ak and deagle

2013-01-23 23:16

1 reply

Too noob to adapt? I just didn't like the game, simple as that. I was never 'good' at go because I simply never played it.

2013-01-24 03:06

cant believe u betrayed us down here in 1.6 very disappointed andy1

2013-01-23 23:48

1 reply

lol

2013-01-24 03:05

someone have to fucking nerf the dgl. its way too strong. 1 hit = 80 damage bodyshot.. its way better to have dgl rather than ak/m4/awp

2013-01-23 23:16

Reset the deagle to what it was, then the game would be just perfect :-)

2013-01-23 23:16

The deagle is so broken right now, the damage is insane. You can kill with two hits at any range, its ridiculous.

2013-01-23 23:22

AWESOME !

2013-01-23 23:19

finally

2013-01-23 23:22

Anyone found which fps command they unlocked?

2013-01-23 23:27

[b]Valve read this[/b] community needs: - release fps commands - repair sound system and movement - deagle after update is fucked up - drop in fps after update - repair models - random bugs - and silencers on m4 and ct pistol ;) Btw nice update ;)

2013-01-23 23:32

1 reply

true

2013-01-24 07:07

time to buy cs:go :)

2013-01-23 23:30

2 replies

2013-01-23 23:34

Same here!

2013-01-24 06:42

deagle op, along with other pistols, change 'em back ty.

2013-01-23 23:37

new recoil is really great and looks like 1.6 ak47\m4

2013-01-23 23:41

I managed to setup an working deathmatch server (Sourcemod Plugin not official deathmatch): 46.38.243.245:27015 You're welcome!

2013-01-23 23:42

we need update to fix the fps , i have 150 fps until the moment i get ingame , where i have with 640 -30-40fps 800 20-30 fps , 1024 10fps, in beta i had 60-70 fps , i have dual core 2.5ghz 8500GT 256 4G ram and yes i tried everything so i guess its some kind of bug , when i played at my friend i changed resolution i had 20 fps , i then quit and go back and i had 60, anyone else ?

2013-01-23 23:49

3 replies

bad PC

2013-01-23 23:58

1 reply

did you even read what i wrote ? guess not

2013-01-24 00:07

Your computer is too slow to run the game in anyway. The reason you have 150fps before you get "ingame" is because there is nothing to render for the computer before that point. I'm guessing you have an 6x00 series Intel CPU which can run the game at around 50-60 fps with a better GFX. The GFX on the other hand is just aweful. If you want to play the game you have to invest in better equipment. Don't blame the game for you having a terrible and old computer.

2013-01-24 18:40

I can't play i.imgur.com/ZKzl0iu.jpg I get this error when I try the play Please help me

2013-01-23 23:50

1 reply

Try #307.

2013-01-24 00:47

What is up with the deagle? Like an earthquake on my screen

2013-01-23 23:51

This game is gonna be great now.. some sick sprays and kills..I was pissed a bit but now this feels great

2013-01-23 23:57

Good: - deathmatch, - tweaked recoil, - awp kill reward, - protobuf, - demo_viewer, - smoke bug behind fence, - some GOTV bugs, - workshop, Bad: - recoil of p90 during ADADAD, - visible punch of deagle, 64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/crosshair-while.. 64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/change-current-.. 64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/partially-reloa.. 64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/decrease-volume.. and others from this thread: forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthrea..

2013-01-24 00:01

2 replies

michaelD Valve should pay to you a lots of money for showing them this major bugs !!!

2013-01-24 16:50

1 reply

They do not even thank, so money is a dream.

2013-01-24 17:14

I havent bought csgo yet, however can some1 explain to me why the molotov costs more for CTS? 500vs850?

2013-01-24 00:17

2 replies

cause its really much easier to used it as CT (you can really stop the enemy team doing rushes) I dont know why would T buy a molotov tbh

2013-01-24 00:22

probably so T can use it more and make attacking more simple with aditional tactics? still nobody use it even when guy have 16k :P

2013-01-24 00:23

dgl is sooooo op!

2013-01-24 00:21

great update. deagle is imba, needs to be nerfed

2013-01-24 00:21

So in 1.6 we had a controlable recoil pattern and we could spray easily.noone had problems and we all played the game 11+ years. But the thing in csgo is that if you update recoil all guns start to behave as the recoil update with an outcome like the p90 being way too fucking accurate and deagle shot do 80 hp dmg with armor..IF you want to do a proper recoil update tweak all the guns seperately and if this isnt possible find a way

2013-01-24 00:23

ENGINE ERROR MESSAGE_END called with no active message Help me please..

2013-01-24 00:27

2 replies

Try "Verify integrity of game cache.." in the properties -> local files

2013-01-24 00:39

1 reply

I did that, it did not work. I tried running the game as administrator, it did not work. I just re installed the entire game, I am still receiving this engine error....

2013-01-24 14:41

i would add wallbanging a little bit more like in 1.6 and this will be an awesome game! thank you Valve

2013-01-24 00:27

- Weapon balance and recoil were adjusted with pro community input ( Thanks to J3Di, NiP, VeryGames, ESC, 4NOT, mTw, and FM TOXiC ) The only thing about pistol changes that I like is glock burst fire. Deagle feels like sh*t. P250 is something what I would expect from P2000. When you shoot ppl from duals you have to pray for every hit. Famas burst-fire mode should be adjusted. Minor changes to AWP would be great. I'd like to see if anybody is satisfied with pistol changes and what do you like about it except glock burst-fire mode.

2013-01-24 00:30

5 replies

actually p250 reminds me of usp i kinda shoot headshots like i used too

2013-01-24 00:37

2 replies

I feel like P250 could be CTs main pistol it would be fair.

2013-01-24 00:43

1 reply

Was thinking the exact same thing. Sure, the pistol rounds would be a lot easier for CT's, but the P2000 is just hoooorrible, never liked i., And I also heard the Glock has improved, so I think it would be fair.

2013-01-24 08:54

The p2000 seems good now, glock seems too strong same goes for the deagle.

2013-01-24 00:51

1 reply

We agreed with my friends that P2000 still isn't reliable enough to feel comfortable defending like 2v5 nuke ramp, d2 B.... Don't you and your friends think that it's so underpowered?

2013-01-24 12:25

people complained just cause they dont like change... recoil would have been like cs go since begining and updated like 1,6.. everyone would be pissed.. csgo recoil was not that bad , ,now it will be a lot more random if they dont make change, the best player are less and less rewared to be better.. like they did since the begining of cs making it more noob friendly update after update

2013-01-24 00:38

2 replies

it's gonna be less random because now the bullets will go where you're aiming.

2013-01-24 00:42

It's one of the reasons why CS became so popular. Every noob in every game could kill PRO with some random shots and get his happiness.

2013-01-24 00:44

I don't like the deagle. AK feels weird, but more like 1.6 when tapping.

2013-01-24 00:34

guys, is theres still advatantage for these who are spraying and running in the same time ?

2013-01-24 00:42

1 reply

Yes, still with P90.

2013-01-24 01:17

p250 is now $300

2013-01-24 01:02

#296 i have the same problem... I'm getting engine error message when trying to start the game... "ENGINE ERROR" "MESSAGE_END called with no active message" any ideas ?

2013-01-24 01:03

#296 try this it should help. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde..

2013-01-24 01:14

Gonna try it soon!

2013-01-24 01:32

PEE TWO FIDDDYYYY

2013-01-24 01:46

Good recoil changes because the spray pattern was completely fucked initially. Been playing 1.6 recently and the spray pattern is so smooth but still has a skill cap. The main maps need to remove clutter/blending in model issues. It's so easy to camouflage in this game. They need to sort out the sounds IMO the gun sounds are just terrible compared to previous cs versions. Made models more outstanding so they can't blend into the background so easily. Fix the deagle. Introduce silencer to CSGO (WHY WOULDN'T YOU?)

2013-01-24 01:53

NICEEEE

2013-01-24 02:04

Great update :)

2013-01-24 02:08

I think it's better to have less powerful deagle but more accurate one...

2013-01-24 02:32

I really like the update. It has some bad things too though. - I really enjoy the AK tapping, way better now - the m4a4 feels more 1.6ish too - I really like the glock, though it's overpowered and has to get nerfed (no oneshot) - Deagle has to get nerfed too, 2 hits in the legs and the enemy dies! - in general a lot of weapons feel way better now for future updates: - P90 has to get nerfed!!! - quickscoping would be way more fun!! - a little more precise movement CS:GO is huge already but damn then it would be just AWESOME And the community needs to update/fix some of the maps. de_mirage_csgo and de_nuke_se are awesome for competitive gaming already I'd update train_se to something like the old 1.6 inner bombsite and the new one outside. I'd give it a try if I'd just had the knowledge..:p de_inferno_se is full of garbage, and invisible edges that has to get fixed. In general the map is really good just some minor fixes. A total remake of de_dust2_se has to be made, in my opinion. Just have so few possiblities, you basically can't hide anywhere on both bombsites. I really dislike playing dust2_se at the moment! de_tuscan and maybe de_season? should be made very very soon!!

2013-01-24 02:42

deagle now jumps like a bitch

2013-01-24 02:40

nice updates! Now just fix movement,bhop etc, and you will see like 40k+

2013-01-24 02:52

4 replies

thats like making a whole new game

2013-01-24 04:25

3 replies

exactly :D

2013-01-24 06:55

They already updated so much so just fixing the movement a bit is making a whole new game? Tbh all it really needs is an update like this one but for movement and the game gets pretty good.

2013-01-24 13:30

hmhm yes, but they've allready shown that they want to change the game to attract the 1.6 hardcore fanboys :) In my opinion, i think movement its the next big thing!If they "fix" this, we will see an enormous increase of players!

2013-01-24 14:25

deagle > all weapons :D

2013-01-24 03:14

shit update everyone is giving headshots

2013-01-24 04:42

Give us quickzoom for AWP.!!!! Teams have to be prepared now even on an opponents eco round! Full deagle buy and can win even an eco round.!!! But, I really need quickzoom first :'(

2013-01-24 05:13

Is it just me or is the netcode f*cked up after this update?

2013-01-24 05:36

2 replies

yes.

2013-01-24 07:16

I have the same feeling :S

2013-01-24 16:29

Me too had a problem with fps thank you Valve !

2013-01-24 06:10

This weapon balance is shitiest thing ever happned to cs.

2013-01-24 06:16

2 replies

Overreacting much?

2013-01-24 12:38

1 reply

No, I'm not overreacting, it's just that deagle right now is so imba and with that kind of pistol game is unplayable because everyone can kill you easily with 2 bullets or left you on 20hp. And you can't say to me it's hard to fire with dgl, because it's not. Close range - free frag for ya :)

2013-01-24 15:51

Better nerf Irelia.

2013-01-24 06:51

I LOVE VALVE BEST UPDATE EVER REGARDS RAD1UM

2013-01-24 07:15

1 reply

EDIT: this game is broken, thought this was a good thing, BUUUUUUUUULLLLL SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT i want my old csgo back right now!

2013-01-24 14:36

IM BACK CSGO! - Added some performance improvements for low-end clients. IM BACK CSGO!#2

2013-01-24 08:04

2 replies

yeah, ur fps is now lower :D

2013-01-24 09:50

1 reply

thats what i noticed lol

2013-01-24 10:06

CHICKEN ON D2?! xD

2013-01-24 08:21

1 reply

LOAL

2013-01-24 08:43

They should have never done this update.. Recoil was fine imo

2013-01-24 08:28

2 replies

yes , only p200 was bad , but now they fixed , they fucked up my aim with this stupid update

2013-01-24 22:40

1 reply

Exactly same for me bro.. "Valve logic" Oh wait lets update the recoil after 4 months..

2013-01-25 11:57

Gonna have to try it out tonight!

2013-01-24 08:36

1: I really like the galil now, because it was really easy to spray with after the update, same with the AK and M4 (but the galil is just amazing now). 2: The deagle jumps every other shot, and that is kinda annoying, but you're not ment to spray with the deagle anyways, so really, it does no difference (And I also feel they added some more recoil to the Mag 7, because every time I shoot it now, it just jumps in the air) 3: I feel tapping is a lot easier (AK and M4 especially), don't know if that's just me or anyone else feels the same. Conclusion: All in all, I think it's a good update.

2013-01-24 08:43

The update is fine, but... I'm still waiting for Valve to add such maps as mirage_go and mill_b2 which are played at competitive scene to match finder. ATM everyone plays only d2, train, nuke and inferno (btw _se versions would be better imo) - 4 maps is not much, right?

2013-01-24 08:47

csgo needs more maps (cbble, prodigy, assault, etc) modification of train and inferno by volcano more wallbang silencers can view demos with new updates profit

2013-01-24 09:40

4 replies

bhop

2013-01-24 09:40

1 reply

Not it doesn't need shit like that. It was removed for a reason.

2013-01-24 12:36

prodigy,assault ok but for FFA only

2013-01-24 13:05

2013-01-24 15:48

someone know pair of game_type and game_mode for enable deathmatch mode on server?

2013-01-24 09:45

1 reply

already find +game_type 1 +game_mode 2

2013-01-24 09:57

nice update, i even got better fps now

2013-01-24 10:12

- Added some performance improvements for low-end clients. is that for fps something?

2013-01-24 10:20

1 reply

yes, fps is better on updated cw server ;) 20 fps bbetter

2013-01-24 10:25

Noobs...Noobs everywhere

2013-01-24 10:21

usp/glock/m4/ak have all been made very similar to 1.6 for the better. Don't mind they nerfed p250, its still accurate if u tap just a tad slower The new deagle... its now possibly the worst weapon in cs history. Even the Negev is better. The new deagle is basically like the ak before the recoil tweak.

2013-01-24 10:25

1 reply

lold at dgl statement

2013-01-24 11:23

fuck

2013-01-24 10:43

the deagle is so sHITT

2013-01-24 10:51

dafaq dgl :x

2013-01-24 11:06

Wasn't this patch with the recoil change "promised" 1 month ago before Christmas?

2013-01-24 11:21

1 reply

2013-01-24 12:31

any1 having problem with fps now??? coz i now have my fps locked at 30...although i was getting 150+ b4 the update :((((

2013-01-24 11:24

go inferno_ce and train_te and maybe change in dust2

2013-01-24 11:38

today I bought GO, now it`s time to play that shit :]

2013-01-24 11:43

i miss much for KZ_maps from cs make it better jumping and add kz_maps_go :) my pray.

2013-01-24 11:49

2 replies

+1, it's funny, the mapmakers should create some :)

2013-01-24 12:52

Not possible, the GO physics are awful to kz.

2013-01-24 13:25

Isn't D.Eagle SOOOOO OP? 95 damage w. Cavler...

2013-01-24 12:05

Still waiting for map changes in matchmaking !

2013-01-24 12:07

Same for me. Before this update, with my laptop i had 180-200, now i have 70-80fps, its unbelievable

2013-01-24 12:18

1 reply

Same, went from the same fps down to 20-60.....

2013-01-24 14:20

DEAGLE POWAAH youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailp..

2013-01-24 12:32

1 reply

lmao

2013-01-24 12:40

add de_mirage_csgo to competitive mod

2013-01-24 13:00

Awesome update Valve and thanks to all people involved!! ;p

2013-01-24 13:13

2 replies

yeah its awesome for you cause u were bade at it and u had like 50 hours and now ur gonna own ppl with 1000 hours

2013-01-24 15:08

1 reply

someone is mad over here!! I am just happy that I wont get randomly killed anymore by a noob that holds mouse1 and hits the ADADADADWASDASDWASDWASD buttons on his keyboard. edit: they should nerf DEAGLE ofc

2013-01-24 15:23

Huge let down. This is the same crap that some dude, pretty sure it was that J3DI guy posted to try with sv_cheats 1 on in private server. They did no ACTUAL recoil changes. The recoil still has the same dumb pattern but now that super crappy T pattern matters very little cause the spread was changed to be smaller. Which was all from those already implemented commands. Aimpunch is still hardly existent, dunno if they even changed it though anyways. I dunno big disappointment for me personally. Was hoping this would be a good patch that really change things for the better instead it basically changed a few server cfg commands instead of actually editing the game for the better. Now spray is just weird and doesn't really require much control.

2013-01-24 13:17

1 reply

1.6 spray does not require much control either. Let's be serious.

2013-01-24 15:06

Deagle needs to be patched. 1 bullet headshot with glock needs to be patched. End of story.

2013-01-24 13:35

Worst update ever. Bring back the good game.

2013-01-24 13:43

Do anyone know what was in today very small update? THx

2013-01-24 13:52

1 reply

Crash fix

2013-01-24 13:56

THIS IS AWESOME!

2013-01-24 13:53

1 reply

not rlly

2013-01-24 15:07

this game became utter trash

2013-01-24 13:53

Agree with most, stop rambling on about skill ceilings though, its a complete fallacy.

2013-01-24 14:03

1 reply

hi there fanboy

2013-01-24 14:27

FFS Deagle has become to overpowered - it has to be nerfed. You can one shot ppl without armor in chest.

2013-01-24 14:23

2 replies

and if that happend in real life what then?

2013-01-24 16:26

1 reply

I hate to burst your bubble but games aren't real life

2013-01-24 17:18

I reinstalled the entire game and I still get the: "Engine Error MESSAGE_END called with no active message" VALVE WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

2013-01-24 14:38

Thank you so much valve that you managed to destroy the game many people have spent many hundreds of hours to and adapt to. Why should I use 3,100$ at colt when one can use 800$ at deagle that goes more straight than awp? I'm not even going to play csgo anymore before it come an another update about this clearly issue. good bye

2013-01-24 14:48

I don't get why people are calling this "best update ever" or I'm not sure, maybe they are trolling. The autosniper costs 800 and the game became totally noobfriendly. Well, I guess I'll have to look back to the time when I actually enjoyed playing this

2013-01-24 15:07

Valve fucked up the game now...people spent soo much hours on game and adapted to it and now some noobs with 100 hours will own everyone... FUCK VALVE!

2013-01-24 15:07

1 reply

In my opinion when better players get used to the new recoil they will destroy worse players even more than before.

2013-01-24 15:33

I played some deathmatch today.. used standard stuff (ak, m4) was pretty good, but then I started to play with only deagle.. 4fun, ended up killing twice as many enemies, its OVERPOWERED! 2shots in stomach or even leg and your DONE BRO! :D

2013-01-24 15:07

so deagle does 70+ to the body and 300+ on headshot, 100+ on hs wallbang.. around 50-60 to leg.. WTF

2013-01-24 15:11

worst update ... just ak taping is ok (i was fine with it before the update , the rest is broken)

2013-01-24 15:13

I love every single change, recoil is much better, deagle is better too. Stop crying on every single update.

2013-01-24 15:24

patch shit

2013-01-24 15:48

the failest update ever...

2013-01-24 15:48

4 replies

install LoL dude :))

2013-01-24 16:37

3 replies

mr.x you still live? :))

2013-01-24 19:37

2 replies

mr what

2013-01-24 19:42

1 reply

de cat timp am jucat cs nu am vazut niciodata cum arati , ca restu 99% din persoanele cu care ai jucat , deaia te chem mr.x :(

2013-01-24 19:44

all ok fps good stable 200-300 recoil ok good update

2013-01-24 15:49

Why are people obsessed with silencers?

2013-01-24 16:01

I like how people complain on every update. Half comments saying deagle is useless, other half saying its OP..

2013-01-24 16:05

1 reply

its op omg legg hit: 75dmg hit:95dmg headshot:400dmg SERIOUS?

2013-01-24 16:49

Imo The game is less smooth after this update . I got less fps and it laggs a little . Meybe they will fix that . Evrything else is rly good

2013-01-24 16:07

1 reply

I got this shit too.. Ive got low pc but its not as smooth as it was before(though it wasnt entirely smooth for me to begin with)

2013-01-24 16:30

Deagle is useless people said. Now its OK but ppl are saying OP... OMG

2013-01-24 16:13

I'd feel really bad if I'd put so many hours on my spine to get better, and all of the sudden a patch like this comes out. But as I didn't... :D

2013-01-24 16:15

DEAGLE IS BULLSHIT PAST UPDATE :-( My favourite gun ;-( RIP

2013-01-24 16:16

Deagle is twice better

2013-01-24 16:18

5 replies

Deagle is just OP, Its close and mid range stronger then AK rofl

2013-01-24 16:22

4 replies

nah, if you cant shoot with AK that's your prob. You cant spray with deagle and accuracy is lower now

2013-01-24 16:38

3 replies

Accuracy lower?? You're full of shit. Stop moving while shooting maybe.

2013-01-24 16:55

1 reply

yeah I was thinking like Igor and i try not moving and "OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG"

2013-01-24 18:36

Yea, okay you're right but damage output I mean

2013-01-24 16:55

they made the deagle fucking op its stupid now its almost useless...

2013-01-24 16:21

the DE is freaking OP!

2013-01-24 16:26

only a couple of things: please, please, PLEASE a)change the model's movement slower and clearer b)add a dot to awp's scope like in 1.6 and c)remake +duck :) it's horrible then u have a great game

2013-01-24 16:36

1 reply

never...

2013-01-24 16:47

i think that the deagle is really OP, ak tapping is good but i like the old1 too, recoil isnt as good as i thought it will be

2013-01-24 16:37

#lol at ppl overreacting

2013-01-24 16:42

2013-01-24 16:44

hahahha dql, so over power!!!!!!!!!!!! NERF DGL! 2 shots in body and bye bye on kevlar. I wanna +duck back!

2013-01-24 17:18

nice changes, csgo growing up

2013-01-24 17:22

niceeee

2013-01-24 17:26

nerf deagle omg wtf

2013-01-24 17:33

dont fix something that cant be fixed

2013-01-24 17:39

Deagle is nice now.. any rifle can kill deagle easy

2013-01-24 17:40

Deagle is fucking insane

2013-01-24 17:47

uh oh I'm buying CSGO AFTER this update. I'm waiting for some wallbang and movement tweak.

2013-01-24 17:52

wowowooww. fix deathmatch pls

2013-01-24 17:52

NERF DEAGLE A LITTLE BIT

2013-01-24 17:58

feels good

2013-01-24 18:18

deagle buy menu return back to no.4 WTF

2013-01-24 19:20

You want update, and when you got it you cry. stfu pls!

2013-01-24 19:20

I don't understand why people are happy with this tbh :P As long as you can shoot and run the game is b@d EDIT: - I also don't understand why they lower some prices of guns without reducing their damage - I really don't understand why they change the order of weapons in buymenu.

2013-01-24 19:35

this is bad update.... I'm disappointed

2013-01-24 19:31

because of this update i cant find any match on matchmaking.. WTF should i do ??? - Added support for mm_dedicated_search_maxping to restrict client's ping when matchmaking for Classic Competitive games. ( Matchmaking algorithm will still be prioritizing best servers to minimize ping of all party members. )

2013-01-24 19:33

honestly so far I'm getting some troubles with this update. Looks like I need more shots to kill ... Something happened with the hitboxes?

2013-01-24 19:37

3 replies

Yes, shooting really is worse than before the update

2013-01-24 19:40

1 reply

+1 this update is really worst :[

2013-01-24 20:10

It's fine offline I guess.. But online the netcode seems to be terrible after this update :(

2013-01-25 01:32

goodbye deagle skilled player. now every noob can use it! change it back..the update was nice (recoil) but why the fuck do you change pistols, lower the price of them, make deagle so powerful?it was nice game like it was...only good thing maybe was the recoil(so 1.6 babys dont cry)but i still dont understand why they changed the most favorite weapon of all players -deagle-...will they change it back or no?

2013-01-24 19:46

Deagle, it's probably a joke

2013-01-24 19:49

deagle feels weird

2013-01-24 19:54

I dont care about the recoil, I liked the once before I can get used to the one now too. BUT THIS DEAGLE?! ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME?! It makes me wanna quit this game. Fucking joke I just dont understand VALVE.. there are so many bugs such as getting stuck on some roofs, ppl are asking them to make pistols less powerful, ppl are asking them for silencer and THEY ARE GIVING US SOME IMBA DEAGLE. FUCK OFF

2013-01-24 19:56

3 replies

You should whine on your boyfriend.. He and hes team actually had the chance to test the update before everyone else and give feedback to valve, and they could have told them before the update aired that the deagle was totally fucked up.

2013-01-24 20:18

2 replies

why do u think they didnt? :D

2013-01-24 20:58

1 reply

They didn't, why would you pretend that they actually said something about it?

2013-01-24 21:24

really sick power of deagle ))

2013-01-24 20:08

god dayum deagle

2013-01-24 20:12

holy crist, youre complaining about the deagle. have you tried the glock burst? super accurate across the map. easy to headshot anyone. T's cant lose a pistol round now.

2013-01-24 20:17

hltv.org/movie/8617-best-csgo-update-eve..

2013-01-24 20:27

2 replies

That's so fucking true! this happen with me also. That's the reason I ask if they change anything on hitboxes. Because it's just weird when I'm firing.

2013-01-24 22:07

1 reply

happening to me as well...

2013-01-25 11:32

Pistols are shits :(( fix it please

2013-01-24 20:41

dont like this ,,,

2013-01-24 20:41

very very baad

2013-01-24 21:17

awful update.

2013-01-24 21:21

waahhh waaahh waaaah

2013-01-24 21:41

that happens because they tweak recoil through commands..when they should do it like 1.6/css with is a pattern and random spray with bullet gathering together! Do it like this either way the game is being played by css and 1.6 player mostly. and make every weapon from the start and unique...

2013-01-24 21:44

Look at top teams, they are playing and no1 is over buying deagles, everything seems fine. Stop crying.

2013-01-24 21:46

Fuckin OP deagle lol. Deagle is now better than an AK or a M4. 2 hits 100% chances of kill...

2013-01-24 22:11

DGL 2 hit = minimum -150HP.....Good job PRO TEAMS. Riffle is waste of money. P90+DGL = PROFIT

2013-01-24 22:13

I'd agree with the 2 shot deagle being over-powered, but it was worth bring the attention away from the P250, People could say the same about the P250 anyways, that gun was stupid and so was Mag7. The update is decent, tapping now goes where you want it too go, you can actually spray, whatever you might think of the recoil pattern. The kick back on some guns and the shooting now feels like im hitting something instead of it feeling like im shooting through water. Awp has improve by miles, quickscoping isn't as random, if you moan that you cannot do it, you must be awful. Yet again no scoping is a go no. Dislike the fact that moved the pistols around, should of just kept it the same. Glock meets the new buff with the P2000. p90 spray has been changed so it's not good long range and damage reduced, thank god. At the end of the day, no update for you moaning shitlords is good enough. Most likely the closest it will come to being like 1.6 in the terms of shooting and recoil. Suck it up and stop being massive raging queermosexuals. If you don't like it go and play LoL & Dota2

2013-01-24 23:02

I think they want exactly that, put cs:go more similar to 1.6. There are a lot of players that said before that they wouldn't leave 1.6 and stuff like that.

2013-01-24 23:31

2 replies

Problem is: CS:GO is not even close to 1.6 in terms of gameplay ..... no single aspect of the game.

2013-01-24 23:46

2013-01-25 08:37

DEAGLE IS OP! strafe and 2 hit on chest = kill. its fuc... up!!

2013-01-24 23:46

yep dgl is strong now but in other hand dgl have now harder recoil

2013-01-24 23:59

Counter-Strike Deagle Offensive... or Deagle Strike ? this update really sucks

2013-01-25 00:04

Now what ? In next update make desert eagle even stronger like 1000dmg in 1hit

2013-01-25 00:07

AK-47 is so inacurate, just go on server, get AK, shoot from from t spawn(d2) to wall beside doors on long and look how inacurate it is, Do oneshot, wait 2s and again, FUCKING INACURATE, gg valve

2013-01-25 00:35

stronkest update ever, decent DGL XDD

2013-01-25 00:44

So what's the consensus on this update, does everyone seem to like it? I think it's great minus the deagle damage, not sure how that happened. The deagle will be fine once they change the damage back to normal. Hopefully this entices even more people to make the switch.

2013-01-25 05:03

hltv.org/movie/8628-best-csgo-update-v2

2013-01-25 13:28

I don't like what they did to recoil...

2013-01-25 17:23

" J3di | 9 hours ago [2013-01-25 13:02:37] Reply Despite what some have said about ignoring feedback, I have to say that feedback was incorporated very well. My guess, the feedback given was inadequately detailed. Lot's of changes were made throughout the beta - for example pistol damage... feedback was given that it was too high and it was subsequently lowered but it appears by not enough to appease some players. The Deagle in particular is likely to be tweaked again, during the beta it had higher recoil/inaccuracy than it does now. It appears in the last round of feedback many pros said they wanted to reduce this and forgot to mention to lower damage output at the same time as the recoil was reduced. " Source: cadred.org/News/Article/191751/ The same J3di from the patch notes: - Weapon balance and recoil were adjusted with pro community input ( Thanks to J3Di, NiP, VeryGames, ESC, 4NOT, mTw, and FM TOXiC )

2013-01-25 23:57

VALVE SUX !!!!!! MATCHMAKER FULL OF CHEATERS! THEY JOIN 2 PLAYERS AND Y CANT KICK THEM!

2013-01-25 23:58

SHIT UPDATE . !

2013-01-25 23:59

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2013-01-26 02:51

deagle is weird, glock in burst is better than smgs, ak and colt sprays are not like in 1.6 whatever they say. new bug for me: "app is already running". awful update. Valve should renew GO Beta and experiment there first.

2013-01-26 11:42