heaton's coment is limiting to "yup, sure, right, they have to win these rounds, its important round for them etc etc etc"
As he is experienced player of CS, he should talks about that, why they are throwing nades here and not there, why they are rotating there etc etc, not the bullshit commerce coment.
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2011-04-23 22:25
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Neo, Luq, taz, loord, kuben vs Whimp, ave, sunde, mje, Zonic were best matches but its always nice to watch polish guys against mTw, I'm sure about 3 maps
2011-04-23 22:28
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It seems some users have some problems reading the nice note prior to posting their message(s).
Maybe not being able to post works as a nice reminder...
2011-04-23 22:40
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omg guys ~~ im just kidding i was trying to find out what the response will be to improve the mood
rybson thank :D you ddnt disappoint my expectations :]
2011-04-23 23:03
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Yes it will be at night.
Unlucky situation...Im on a shitty laptop atm wheres cs 1.6 not installed.
I have an older pc wheres cs installed, but I havent got network connection. :/
2011-04-23 23:55
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Why are humans so egotistic and can get so retarded at times.... People DDOS'ing for their own self pride and to brag to their friends in school. Grow up seriously.
2011-04-23 23:42
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I think first half was 8-7 not 9-6 like everyone was saying.
If it was 16-14 they would have changed map.
EDIT: Also no one said good game.
EDIT AGAIN: My bad, map change hahaha :D
2011-04-24 00:05
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admitting defeat? I've always been a fan of mTw but I've been in HLTV a while and when did you catch me as one of those trolls/fanboys that go in denial and sleep dreaming of a team?
I was just confused of what was going on, no need to jump to conclusions.
P.S: Am i yelling mTw power every 2nd minute? :)
2011-04-24 00:11
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It's fine, and yeah. There are loads of people yapping at each other about who's better at which map and who's bad etc etc.
Honestly it's more fun to just sit back and enjoy with some popcorn, of course it's more fun if you're cheering for someone :)
--
The reason I said the above was because I'm the type of person that avoids these types of confrontations, so when you mentioned I was in denial; it was kind of a surprise to me lol. Though no problem, it's easy to confuse one type of fanboy to another :P So won't take it personally.
Enjoy the game!
2011-04-24 00:22
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I noticed something, tell me if I'm right :
Trace is an awesome player for sure but it looks like he's clearly weaker vs the really top teams such as Fx or NaVi. I mean we he plays the good average teams he's dominating, always top fragger and stuffs but he's clearly less decisive in the big games. Dunno if it's because of pressure or smtg else but that's quite bad... He's never dominating, like bringing mTw on top like neo or markeloff would for example.
2011-04-24 00:31
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I did man but what i'm telling you is that in the big games like when they lost to NaVi or now for example. He's not as dominating as he usually is. He's still very good but not amazing you know?
2011-04-24 00:33
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I'm talking about the overall performance you know. Like to give you an example, markeloff in the finals is always just amazing, making the entry frags and stuffs etc, clutching the round and this in nearly every fucking map. Trace is not as constant you know but he's still in the top 5 players for sure.
2011-04-24 00:43
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Don't get me wrong, for the hundreds time, trace is awesome and is one of my favourite player, I'm just saying something not saying he's bad or whatever.
Btw if you're talking about the moves etc just look at roman in his best shape, he was the best to me.
2011-04-24 00:46
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well i know what you mean but i disagree.. Trace is still awesome against top teams. But ofcourse its harder to stand out when the opponents are harder... but i still believes that he stands out against top teams.
2011-04-24 00:47
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Yeah you know everyone knows he's one of the best along with guys like neo and stuffs but i mean he can just dolminate like shit and then he will have really bad maps, not making the opening frags anymore etc.
But he's awesome and we just saw it one round ago.
2011-04-24 00:42
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Yeah sure! or maybe that teams know what he's gonna do etc cause they surely made something to avoid his damages.
I'm just saying that cause when you compare to the other "star players" you know. I'm always talking about mark cause he's amazing. But if you check all the big games he played this year. Everytime he played his a-game being the one who carried the team with of course the amazing help of his teammates. They are sort of the same kind of players and I think trace could do this for sure but sometimes he's not as good as he could be.
2011-04-24 00:52
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@MALOY "trace really weak vs strong teams"
[email protected] killed Frag eXecutors NEO[t] with ak47
*** Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] killed [email protected] with a headshot from m4a1 ***
Frag eXecutors PASHA[t] killed [email protected] with awp
*** [email protected] killed Frag eXecutors PASHA[t] with a headshot from ak47 ***
*** [email protected] killed Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] with a headshot from ak47 ***
*** [email protected] killed Frag eXecutors TaZ with a headshot from ak
2011-04-24 00:44
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heaton and props are awful now. Not foscusing on cs, stupid comments, and talking about wanting by mtw and fx get back to the top rotfl? so who is in the top with navi?
2011-04-24 00:45
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*** Frag eXecutors TaZ killed [email protected] with a headshot from deagle ***
*** Frag eXecutors TaZ killed [email protected] with a headshot from deagle *
wow
2011-04-24 00:56
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Both. If you hit your nose in the coffee by collapsing you'll wake up much faster :P
.. Although it might not be a good idea because it'll burn for the next few hours.
2011-04-24 01:24
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mtw should get penaltys for theese delay they are making every single important matches. making other teams losing their momentum and this is not fair play. if mtw wouldnt do this shit i really dont think they would get top3 at so many tournaments, so frustrating.
2011-04-24 01:22
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yeah I was. hmm.. mby my memory is fuc*ed because of this crazy day, which is still continuing. But for me seems that FX won last match in nuke vs mTw. sry if im wrong :/
2011-04-24 01:52
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Haha np. But i believe the last time they played what the semifinal where the first map was on nuke. And mTw won that in overtime. If i am not mistaken.
2011-04-24 01:59
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please start !! Lets and this match and watch the final already :( god how can the organizers force players to play at this level at 3am !! All day playing CS !! :( It's like the Le Mans in CS :(
2011-04-24 01:47
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Haha, maybe if someone is extremely mad, tired, and sleepy at the same time :D And yes that would be funny :P
"Danny, what are you yelling about 2 AM in the morning?!"
"Counter-Strike mom, it's just... Counter-Strike..."
2011-04-24 02:05
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I wonder if those guys will be able to get any sleep at all tonight... I mean, the amount of coffee or redbulls they must've drank.
I'm afraid SK will have huge advantage tomorrow, no matter what team they will face.
2011-04-24 01:56
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Well minet was always a clutch player but not really a top fragger type of player like trace or people like Get_RighT.
These days he improved so he tends to be top fragger more often now, and obviously clutches a lot more often now.
Glad to see he improved, or else mTw would have lost a long time ago.
2011-04-24 02:35
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well. I always say that trace, neo and forest are the best players in the world.
But watching neo ALWAYS shows me that he is a big step ahead of all the others. He is the god of this game. Amazing aim, confidence and intelligence...
2011-04-24 02:24
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You're right. Could be.
But I say they are the best cause they are COMPLETE. All of them are outstanding assaulters and very good awpers (besides being the most intelligent players out there), while I can't see markel as an amazing assaulter :X
He is surely incredible, don't get me wrong... but I don't know if he can be compared to those 3 :D
2011-04-24 02:29
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That's right. My own opinion is that GTR is the best rifler and Markeloff is the best awper, yet these above-mentioned trio are the most versatile players out there!
2011-04-24 02:52
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My point exactly!
(actually, I think the 2 most skilled riflers are gtr and moddii and the 2 most skilled awpers are markel and fallen, but that's only in my opinion ;D)
2011-04-24 03:00
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yep.. I know something is wrong.. u remeber that action arcadion vs neo on upper ramp and bomb planted? even heaton says "what the hell did he know that?" or something..
GG.. even that fx lose they are winners.
2011-04-24 02:51
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them
GOOOOOOG GAME RIP
2011-04-24 02:51
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them
2011-04-24 02:51
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them stream
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t
typical polish retard
2011-04-24 02:51
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them
LOL
2011-04-24 02:51
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them stream
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t
2011-04-24 02:52
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was not sooo imposible to thing that maybe neo was there... minnet shut him a few times so neo was on low hp, being in poti he cant fall to the floor, and if he stay in poti minnet can throw an HE, so the only option for neo was there on anti cat to be safe
2011-04-24 03:39
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wouldn't be suprised if it's true -.- I don't think kuben would make shit up like that, though it's possible he misunderstood the situation. anyway we gonna need some proof.
2011-04-24 02:52
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is it even possible, isn't there normally officials walking around to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen? i meen it's not like the first lan which Sui & co. are having.
2011-04-24 02:54
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nah, cause it's a danish team playing, obviously one is rooting for his homecountry's team, which is why, as i said, the polish comments are completely irrelevant as well.
2011-04-24 03:13
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them stream
2011-04-24 02:54
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy*
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them stream
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : ...
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : GG
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : DENMARK
2011-04-24 02:55
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there was admins i'm 100% sure of that, this is not some newcomers in the lan scene making this, i think they have like 8 or 7 years experience with more than 3 lans a year.
you should read this xplayn.com/20001 just use google translate to translate it.
2011-04-24 04:05
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OMG OMG -________________________-"
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them stream
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t : GG
*MORT* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : DANMARK
WHAT THE FUCK ?!
2011-04-24 02:57
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of course it continues, they are in denmark.....why do you think none of the teams wants mtw to win any tournament? because they are lame in all kinda ways they can. losing with purpose to get easier opponent and delay matches with purpose to make the other team frustrated and do you want me to continue?
2011-04-24 03:09
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FX is the kind of team that could easily just stand up and stop the game, maybe kuben thought they cheated but then realized they didn't, maybe he saw a different thing. If it is true, I insist, FX asking for a resolution isn't the same as any other semi-elite team for example.
This has nothing to do with being in Denmark, mTw is capable of winning this game in law.
2011-04-24 03:14
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Watching what the other team does in some screen, like kuben say, mTw were watching what fx does on a screen of a guy who was watching the match next to mTw
2011-04-24 03:19
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fuck this shit I'ma sleep but I just wanna thank mTw for ruining my night D: g'night guys also prediction: mTw win against FX, but SK beat them 2-0 in the final.
2011-04-24 03:07
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id like to know the official statement on the matter because its quite serious. If its not true then kuben should be punished for something like this because he is ruining mTw good name. But if its true ...
2011-04-24 03:10
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They should take an official statement from FX from mTw on the matter and there should be an admin present at the match... it was the semi final of a tournament there should be someone watching over the teams.
2011-04-24 19:57
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You don't think anyone would comment it, if it was true? First of all, I doubt anyone is sitting near mTw. Second, I doubt they would have time looking at a silly stream. Third, the stream is probably delayed by 90-120 seconds.
2011-04-24 03:20
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1.stream from heaton is not delayed. 2. when everybody life thats is to big risk to look at the other monitor. but when one die... 3. there are only few minutes from that.. dont worry mate, fx and mtw write about this in sure : )
2011-04-24 03:25
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Not really sure what stream Kuben was talking about.
But assuming he meant the 'great-frag' stream, then there is nearly a 2 minute delay.
90seconds from the match to the HLTV. then another half minute for his stream to 'encode' on the fly. Then at least 10 seconds for the own3d buffer.
So i dont see how anyone could ghost off 2 minutes...
must be a different stream ...
2011-04-24 03:15
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Kuben wouldn't know about such delay (either he can pretend he doesn't know) but IF TRUE, it's an argument (valid or not).
He'd probably saw a different thing, mTw is not the kinda team that does something like that.
2011-04-24 03:17
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Even if there is 5 minutes delay it is still illegal. You can always look for exact position of enemy and how do the rotate/run to the positions.
If enemy create some 'special tactics' when do you want to know them? In in 5th round rather than after the match? ;)
2011-04-24 03:20
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are you really so dumb or it's just a trick?
even if the stream was delayed, I,personally, would get some benefits by ghosting from such a source. just a bit of thinking is all you need to get some more info about enemy's position. mTw's players are smart, it wouldn't be a problem for them.
and the stream was NOT delayed, you can read about it above.
2011-04-25 15:13
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yeah i see your point, but i dont think mTw would have time to just stare at this 'stream' all map to check for boosts or whatever.
But yeah valid point i guess. My point was more that 2minute delay is practically the whole round. Which would make it useless for actual "ghosting - as in spam that wall, or he's faking defuse" or whatever
Apparently there was a live local stream anyway, so that would probably be better for ghosting (not saying it did or didn't happen)
2011-04-24 03:24
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Yep, not useful for ghosting, but useful for other things/illegal :)
Anything giving any kind of advantage (out of game) should be consider illegal/banned. Even your friend showing your opponents cash. Yes, you can 'estimate' it in-game, but it is not the same.
Anyway (just) if one player dies while rushing and rest of the team is falling back and playing slowly (let's say 1.5 min) there is plenty of time to watch it :)
Anyway we will prolly see some proofs soon. If it was only Kubens cry/thrash-talk he should get punished. There is a difference between thrash-talk and accusing of cheating. If that was true... poor mTw.
2011-04-24 03:35
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-.-' there was a guy next to them with the screen, so the were watching what was going on.
If you don't know what "cheat" means stfu, it's not only aimbot nor wallhack.
2011-04-24 03:20
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ohh man yeah, I will have serious problems in my life, yes...
What can I say, is that kuben is not the kind of ppl who throw shit with no proof, he is a good boy. Anyways, they beat them with or without that. FX the kings!
2011-04-24 03:40
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but mTw isn't the team that ghost, that's really easy for me to say as well, but it is no proof at all it's just a random statement.
besides yeah you are going to have problems, with all the shit being showed on TV.
2011-04-24 03:48
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are u stupid? how u know its not true? anyway in fervor of fight things like this happen, Robinho or Ozil when Dive or says to referee that was faul even if not should be disqualified too?
2011-04-24 03:16
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*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : to all you guys watching
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : there was a guy
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : sitting next to mtw guys
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : showing them
2011-04-24 03:17
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WHY DOES PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY GHOSTED? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT IT, ARE U THERE ATM? retard..
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : I'm superman! It's true because I'm saying this in-game!
Reply later, just cuz he sais something, it does _NOT_ mean it is allways true..
2011-04-24 03:19
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yeah but think about it from the other side: why would kuben say it if there wouldn't be anything wrong? Have u seen him before talking about smth like that? That's a weird thing and we have to wait till this case will be solved
2011-04-24 03:31
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reminds me of the iem5 euro finals semifinal where fx had like 2 rounds less than mTw on exactly the same 3 maps. this time it's the other way around, so i guess karma works after all. :P
2011-04-24 03:21
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I think you guys are judging them pretty early. We should wait for hltv news, an admin or another confirmation from a player. I don't believe in that story since there are lots of people and the admins should be doing their job, so It's almost impossible mtw having another computer with a stream.
2011-04-24 03:19
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kinda true, less spectators and mainly.. the performance of the players gets affected after a day of counter strike and 6/7 games non-stop,
SK has now a larger possibility of victory since they are fresher
2011-04-24 03:26
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And even if they had a stream, it would be delayed for over a minute which make it impossible to ghost... People are really too fast at pointing fingers!
2011-04-24 03:23
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I think they dont have the place rented anymore:(
fuck, im about to just pass out:P
I got insomnia anyways, might aswell watch cs, better than just random zoneing out:P
2011-04-24 03:30
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Retard...
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : I'm superman! It's true because I'm saying this in-game!
It's not true just cuz he sais so, you don't know if mTw cheated or not? rofl
2011-04-24 03:20
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Retard...
*DEAD* Frag eXecutors KUBEN[t] : I scratched my butt rigth now it really itched me! It's true because I'm saying this !
It's not untrue just cuz you say so, you don't know if kuben said the truth?
so zip it!
2011-04-24 03:39
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this is a team victory,whole FX were brilliant tonight...and if mtw really ghoster,well shame on them...there is no mom from FX for this match,25 % each player...amazing match
2011-04-24 03:22
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haha,true guys,20 % of each,i wroted that first,but forum didnt took my post,to much ppl writing in same time,yeah,taz was little out on ct side but great as T,pasha had some huge rounds but also hude mistakes,even neo once,kuben and loord were just brilliant...but team victory for sure...cant wait for a final
2011-04-24 03:35
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NAJS KURWAAAAAAAAAAAA!
the most epic battle i've ever seen =D
FX and mTw show us a NICE GAME :)
NEO MVP!
P.S. if that's true about really mTw's ghosting then its so LAME and unprofessional :>
P.S. 2 after that match everything what i can say is so NEO proved why he's player of decade and now i really can call the Poles "KINGS OF COMEBACKS"
gg both teams ;)
2011-04-24 03:22
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all of us have 3:23 xDDDD I think that we will go sleep at 6 or so lol.
lets watch the final!
2nd place is very good already, fx made really nice tournament! GG, lets try to get top1 !!!!!
2011-04-24 03:25
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I really don't know about showing steam to mTw guys, but I'm sure that was very hard match for both teems, so 'good game' mTw & 'good luck' FX in final against SK !
2011-04-24 03:26
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sk website
The grand finals of the Xperia PLAY tournament will begin shortly, lets just hope that HeatoN and company can stay awake long enough to cast the game for those watching the stream!
2011-04-24 03:29
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Very Bad Organisation on Xperia, that what they did to OK, its a Tournament without a Rulebook, and you can Cheat so much as you want :)
NeoSkillCheat was succefully injected :D
2011-04-24 03:29
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They was NOT cheating. The person there were right for them, was sitting on HLTV with 90 seconds delay.
Frag Exe its just whining becourse they knew they had no chance winning at all, without whining. Its sad to watch this but - ye.
How do i know this? I'm one of that person who was on HLTVs teammates, and i was sitting and WATCHING IT!
90 seconds delay! COME ON!-.-
2011-04-24 03:40
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