then how is it that against underdogs DTS had such a hard time? underdogs usually gets beaten without so much as a drop of sweat from TCM?
usually I would say the odds are equal but after seeing DTS play yesterday (underperformed abit I think, they can do better) I think TCM will take it today
2011-05-18 14:53
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I mean, maybe in terms of teamplay and joy within the team, but he hasn't really been acting really nice towards certain teams in numerous tournaments. Swearing, taunting and generally just being a prick has been like his trademark. If you don't see the lack of moral values within that kind of behavior, I sincerely suggest you reconsider your own moral values.
2011-05-19 00:46
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esenin is the key of Na`Vi's morale. from what you've written i can see that you haven't been to much LAN tournaments and haven't experienced the tension of the matches or you're just that kind of person that doesn't get so emotional.
i get ceh9 beacause i think swearing and tauting can hurt other team's morale and confidence, and considering the two being the key parts of one's performance it is viable to have players that will get that much emotionaly involved.
Ofcourse you might not get this and i don't blame you, beacause opinions differ, but you can't say he has no moral values (primarily 'cuz you don't know the guy) beacause it's all in the heat of battle, emotions are a thing you mostly can't control (again, differs from your personality), and i'm sure he doesn't mean all that stuff outside the game when he's chatting with e.g. fnatic guys.
2011-05-19 11:39
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I've attending several smaller tournaments at LAN, and the tension was quite high.. So I can clearly see your points. I guess you are pretty much right in every way, but I still dislike behavior which can be defined as morally unacceptable. The only thing that is worse than a bad loser, is a bragging winner.
2011-05-19 17:25
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Agree, but I think that ceh9 isn't a bragging winner and instead is just trying to demoralise the other team and/or motivate his teammates. Of course he might say some bad words and some people might not consider polite, like you, but i don't blame you beacause, as I've said before, opinions differ. :)
2011-05-19 20:02
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*** DTS | kUcheiN killed TCM zE- with a headshot from usp ***
*** DTS | kUcheiN killed TCM Nuggi with a headshot from usp ***
*** DTS | kUcheiN killed TCM Snappi with a headshot from usp
nice knife round by kUcheiN
*DEAD* TCM Nuggi : ???
2011-05-18 20:19
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*** DTS | kUcheiN killed TCM BERRY with a headshot from usp ***
*** DTS | kUcheiN killed TCM Snappi with a headshot from usp ***
OMG KUCHER 1x2 with awp/usp!
2011-05-18 21:28
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hahaha. TCM sure knows how to lose a round :D
seriously though, they havent been performing at all the last couple of months. right now they're just disgracing both themselves and the TCM organisation.
2011-05-18 21:34
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I think the opposite, a top 8 finish at Xperia play isn't that bad considering the teams that were attending. They are performing better than they did before.
2011-05-18 21:41
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with the kind of groupstages they had at cph games, nothing else than a top8 finish would've been disastrous.
the final placing doesn't tell the whole story :]
2011-05-18 22:05
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maybe your brain is pending XD
sry... just had to. don't hate me :/
i'll give you some organic chili corn chips... just don't... h-h-h-h....urt me.... p-p-p... lease... ;(
2011-05-18 22:10
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I bet DTS' guys are upset LULZ
they had second map imo, then all this bullshit started and they lost =D
I think TCM will win third map and DTS will rage a lot!
2011-05-18 22:14
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well just be prepared for the threads : Kucher best awper? ... Kucher > Markeloff?... Delpan > kucher ??.. angel best aimer?... + angel - edward blabla.. wts angels settings lol... etc.. hahah
2011-05-18 23:01
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if any player of DTS replaces esenin, then Na'Vi would be really unbeatable, they would win every single match they play, since the end of 1.6 tournaments
2011-05-18 22:43
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normally I would prefer seeing TCM but DTS has just came near the top recently and in quite good form..so it would be nice to see them playing a top team now, but TCM has already been playing against the top teams so wont be much surprises ...
2011-05-18 23:09
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another thing is I have noticed in the games with DTS there has been HUGE delay and a lot game pending you know. There has also been game pending in the other games but its has been far worse in their matches and I just cant take another 4½ hr game tbh :p
2011-05-18 23:12
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You've probably read about it already, but it was the DTS-guys who kept crashing. And they did it several times versus a2g and UD, as well... I don't know whether it was by purpose to gain money (which some claim, since DTS demanded much more start money than they should), or that they just have shitty computers in Ukraine. Maybe a mixture of both...
2011-05-21 15:46
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yes they had ~4k after buying in the 3rd round, but before the 3rd round they had around 8k and that was what we were talking about because it was in that round the crash happened
2011-05-18 23:40
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Most likely a player dropped and rejoined. That way the HLTV is bugged and shows a 4 vs 5 match.
If that happens you just have to reconnect to the HLTV.
2011-05-18 23:24
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I don't know actually.
It seems though, according to the comments posted by other users in this match thread, that he might not be happy how the crashes were managed by the part of the tournament administration.
2011-05-18 23:35
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That they had to play 4vs5 for the last rounds. I think thats what pops is complaining about:
*DEAD* DTS | popsILA : fucking retards!!!
*DEAD* DTS | popsILA : fucking lame fnatic
2011-05-18 23:22
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Gues it was the economy decision then. But they didnt play all 5 after that last pause did they? In console I saw Ange1 connect in the last round though
2011-05-18 23:29
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(23:16:36) (@fnatic\StreeT) DTS is disquailified
(23:16:39) (@fnatic\StreeT) from this tournament
(23:16:43) (@fnatic\StreeT) therefore VP|gurkie
(23:16:46) (@fnatic\StreeT) Virtus.Pro is 3rd place
2011-05-18 23:21
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DTS crash many times, and claim more startmoney then they had. also heard they did the same vs underdogs where they also "crashed" a few times. and why blame fnatic not their foult DTS dont have decent PC´s.
2011-05-18 23:29
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the thinh is that they were wining 5 rounds in a row fully equiped and high $$ when they paused they got back with famas? wtf...its not like they crashed on purpose
2011-05-19 06:23
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ohh, I think DTS lost because they couldnt play together in Cyberarena as it was closed for shitty Discovery EXPo o smth like that...
The game was really tight, but on LAN TCM would have no chance
2011-05-19 00:36
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