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#1
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Portugal Lµney
Gl k1ck .
2013-11-25 20:21
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#2
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Portugal impZ'
GL k1ck!
2013-11-25 20:33
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#3
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Sweden Pääjärvi
prb > k1ck
2013-11-25 21:23
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#4
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
easy panters!
2013-11-25 21:32
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#65
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Portugal TRISH00W
lol
2013-11-26 21:05
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gogo panthers
2013-11-25 21:36
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#6
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Norway  prebz-
Go Panters :D
2013-11-25 21:36
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#7
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United States m0rt3n^
norwegian gather friends v k1ck. i think k1ck. unless RUBINO and Polly show some other sides.
2013-11-25 21:55
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#12
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Norway hoyland
Lol.
2013-11-25 22:41
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#16
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United States m0rt3n^
do you have some constructive criticism with that or just panters #1 stronk others wronk? wake up plx
2013-11-25 23:27
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#28
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Norway vENdetta
Wait.. did you say anything constructive in your post? ..at all?!
2013-11-26 14:19
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#30
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United States m0rt3n^
Yes, Vendetta. I actually did. I tried to at least. This is my critique: 1. They seem, like everyone else in the top tier .no, to play gathers/mix all the time having fun, and not playing/prepping for serious practice, getting serious improvement on teamplay and improvement on tournament/official settings. I don't know if they have evolved from the having fun gather stage yet, but it doesn't seem like it from the comments people have made on HLTV in the last 6 months or based on their teamplay overall. 2. They are probably friends, a clique, they seem to me to be picking people for their team out of people they know and like to play with before picking people that actually are the best in Norway, that play the best CS and that may actually bring Norway to a better level with better performance. Comradery may be bad as hell if you are serious, if this is actually the case. It seems like it. 3. I don't get why RUBINO and Polly are in all these lineups, what is their purpose, do they actually contribute to a win or are they just good friends with the rest? I'd like to see how they can make Panters win, what is their potential, if they have any. Maybe they show that tonight or maybe someone may explain it to me..... That is what is bothering me about the .no scene which I tried to say.
2013-11-26 17:20
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#32
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Norway vENdetta
If that was what you were trying to put forward in your first post, you did an immensely bad job at it. You're critiquing them based on wild assumptions, saying they don't practice, only play gathers and whatnot, but what do you actually know about their current situation? And what comments relevant to the team could've appeared during the last six months as the team is pretty much new? And whatwhatwhat?! They're not picking people who're the best in Norway? Really? They're ONLY picking based on friendship? What..?! How many players outside of said team is legitimately good enough to play there, who'd actually work out over time and work in the social setting of the team as well? I'd love to see what you can come up with. The part above binds itself nicely to your last part about rubino & Polly, really.., so I won't bother to go down that road again.
2013-11-26 17:35
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#34
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United States m0rt3n^
I'm not basing this on wild assumptions, I've actually thought a lot about it and have cared and been disappointed about this for long... I'm assuming or kind of expecting that they don't distance themselves from the current claimed flaws of the .no scene, as they are just another team in a line of teams that have been formed lately that sadly have failed when I was hoping they would impress. I'm talking about the .no scene in general, if they don't play unserious and rather concentrate on the tournament setting with what that demands then I'm happy :D That was what I was dreading would keep them down instead of evolving, so if that's not a problem anymore it's great. I'm suspecting that yes! I actually had a list of players I meant were much better that I posted somewhere. I'll try to find the post, I can't atm. Here it is: centryz obviously, and kalsa/aNdz/ensa/firesenz. Maybe some others but I don't know atm. If the reason they aren't picked is that they won't work over time, then you've answered my question. That was what I was wondering about. In my opinon the social setting should not be too much of a problem in semiprofessional teams, you should be able to get people into the right mindset if they are serious enough. The ones I listed are the best aimers in Norway imo, so they would make a team with great individual skill. If the intention however was to make a great -team- with good teamplay I'm also quite uncertain -how- Panters will manage that/what their potential are there. Also, btw, this is just some critique from a Norwegian CS fan, I care about CS and just want to contribute to some long lost improvement, and question if something has gone wrong! :D edit: spelling
2013-11-26 18:18
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#36
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Norway bOyEmAn2k
hvem er du?
2013-11-26 18:34
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#37
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United States m0rt3n^
en n00b
2013-11-26 18:36
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#41
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Norway shakyboy
I will not bother to comment youre "constructive" comments, beacuse i dont know these guys as a team. But the question is, do you? You seem to be criticizing a lot of the norwegian teams and lineups lately, so i ask of you, do you know them all?
2013-11-26 19:16
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#45
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United States m0rt3n^
I don't know them personally, no. Only as a viewer, from the outside. As with every other e-sports team. I try to judge them objectively out of what I can see and study and understand from the outside, like people and fans from every other gaming community do with their favorite teams and players :) Even in football etc. Because I want them to improve and because I'm obviously very interested in e-sports, and I'm a fan first of all that wants Norwegian e-sports to grow.
2013-11-26 19:29
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#73
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Norway shakyboy
You really should change your attitude towards the teams then. Beacuse it really doesnt seem like you want stuff to grow, the negativity is high in you young padawan :) But i get your point aswell as im sure you get mine, since you are getting flamed for the comments. But enuff for now, idc really :)
2013-11-30 18:19
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#47
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Norway vENdetta
There's so much nonsense, I'm unsure as to where to start.. First off, giving something a lot of thought doesn't change the fact that it is an assumption - you're still claiming things with a lack of insight/knowledge concerning the topic - so by definition it's an assumption/theory. As for the players you mentioned, cENTRYZ is an obvious choice, though he's currently playing with someone else - the remaining players you've mentioned are not even on the same level as the players currently in Panters.. hell, they're not even the best aimers in Norway - and that's in no way an attempt to disrespect said players, but it's fact.
2013-11-26 19:34
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#52
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United States m0rt3n^
I seem to have more insight than you. That's the sad part. Also I think it's time to realize some things and take well deserved criticism, at least suggestions from other perspectives than your own...
2013-11-26 19:58
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#54
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Norway rainje
The only place you are getting you're so called insight from is through news clearly. eod
2013-11-26 20:03
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#56
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United States m0rt3n^
No... I have studied stuff like this if that matters to anyone..
2013-11-26 20:10
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2 replies
#68
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Europe k9ken
xD
2013-11-26 22:18
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1 reply
#69
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United States m0rt3n^
lol :P education is hiiilarious
2013-11-26 22:36
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#57
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Norway vENdetta
Yes, I only play with said players every single day - surely I'd have no fucking clue as to what's going on within the scene.. How dense are you!?
2013-11-26 20:16
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#62
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United States m0rt3n^
I bet you do that, but the fact that you're part of it doesn't mean you know everything about it. It just means that you struggle as much as the others and don't know either what you can do to make Norway be a good cs nation again. That's what I'm trying to say. You need new ideas for that to happen, not to stick to the course that has failed again and again since GO or even 1.6/1.5. If you were right Panters would play better and Norway would perform better on ESEC, but because they're not you're partly to blame yourself. Your input doesn't help, isnt that obvious? I don't see how you've understood what can make Norway better, I don't see how you've understood what they have done in Denmark and Sweden which have great merits in CS, and that's all that I'm talking about and trying to discuss. Until that time just keep on going with your losses and I'll try to enjoy Swedish, Danish teams and Xapso for their win and impressive plays. I'm obviously saying this in affect after watching Panters getting completely stomped in a humiliating fashion. Sorry for insults
2013-11-26 20:47
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#59
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Norway rubino
you forgot one player tho, that actually is the best raw aimer in the norwegian scene, hoyland.
2013-11-26 20:26
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#63
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United States m0rt3n^
hehe :D
2013-11-26 20:48
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#58
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Norway hoyland
Hahaha. Sorry, i know that wasn't constructive criticism but i just have to. HAHA
2013-11-26 20:21
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#71
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Norway firesenz
støtte deg 100%
2013-11-27 00:33
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#23
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Portugal FbOrxrx
thing is k1ck isn't even near predictable. i don't see them practicing much tbh, KillDream is a good player, AIm is shit, he's the IGL now but shitty aimer as he was in 1.6 scene over here. Though I only know prb from Panthers lineup
2013-11-26 05:15
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#27
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Portugal hacksel
+1
2013-11-26 11:57
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#31
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United States m0rt3n^
:( Then why do you have one of the most prominent challengers in the top tier .EU scene. You're doing considerably well in CS, thats for sure, better than most others and a lot of potential and nice gameplay. Portugal > Norway.
2013-11-26 17:26
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#38
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Portugal FbOrxrx
feels nice to have someone aknowledge a portuguese team ^^ it's true k1ck is a good team, but the constant roster changes are never good to any team, and they've changed players every months last 5 months or so. They only stuck with fox + rmn + muttt which came from K1ck CS 1.6. The other 2 players have changed during last year every month or so. They had fyx, iNsider, emotioN, coachi, vis, aguila, and now AIm and KillDream
2013-11-26 19:06
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#46
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United States m0rt3n^
yeah, it's still pretty impressive tho. with the latest results and all. I dont know how you do it.
2013-11-26 19:31
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#72
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Portugal FbOrxrx
quite simple, fox , imo one of the top10/20 players in GO atm
2013-11-27 02:43
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#8
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Portugal SL4Y3R
Panters obv. Poor Fox is now carrying the team without Aguila. We havea fucked up cs scene in Portugal.
2013-11-25 22:09
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6 replies
#10
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World Join Smite
fox carrying?
2013-11-25 22:15
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3 replies
#11
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Portugal SL4Y3R
Is that any new to you?
2013-11-25 22:20
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2 replies
#20
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World Join Smite
yeah, actually it is
2013-11-26 00:19
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1 reply
#21
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Portugal keNya^
+1
2013-11-26 00:20
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#17
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Portugal errekapaze
+1
2013-11-25 23:31
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#64
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Portugal TRISH00W
lol
2013-11-26 21:04
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#9
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Portugal luK,ws
GO K1CK
2013-11-25 22:15
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#13
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Norway hoyland
maak skurk >
2013-11-25 22:41
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#14
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Spain Kutz'SI
aguila ?
2013-11-25 23:01
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3 replies
#19
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Spain Donra
no more in k1ck.
2013-11-26 00:03
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2 replies
#33
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Portugal errekapaze
Is he going *to join Musambans team?
2013-11-26 18:05
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1 reply
#35
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Spain Donra
There's still no info, but for me, is the best choice.
2013-11-26 18:20
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#15
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Norway ProfixG
gl Panters :D
2013-11-25 23:14
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#18
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Norway ejzzirhc
prob k1ck
2013-11-25 23:45
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#22
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Hungary ArniiL
gogo maak!:)
2013-11-26 03:16
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#24
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World ZypNikZ
maak beast! skurk ply bf4 nubs
2013-11-26 10:11
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#25
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Norway aNdzz
maaktwAKAsossegutt4lyffY0 >
2013-11-26 11:23
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#26
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Portugal vts*HGI
lets go k1ck. FOCUS AND DONT LOSE ECO ROUNDS! GL!
2013-11-26 11:49
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K1CK win !
2013-11-26 14:43
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#39
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Norway kunstnareN
maaktw > foxj
2013-11-26 19:09
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#40
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
IP?
2013-11-26 19:16
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#42
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Denmark BroadCastCSTV
gotv?
2013-11-26 19:17
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#43
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Denmark BroadCastCSTV
English stream -> twitch.tv/BroadCastCSTV
2013-11-26 19:19
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#44
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Norway SUPERKALLE
Streaming with ingame sound (no commentary) @ twitch.tv/kallehell/
2013-11-26 19:19
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#48
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Norway zynthex
needs more mystic
2013-11-26 19:40
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#49
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Portugal FbOrxrx
gg, dust2 2stronk
2013-11-26 19:52
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#50
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Spain Aguila
gg :D
2013-11-26 19:52
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#53
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Portugal gUIMBRA -
where do u go now aguila ?
2013-11-26 19:59
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#55
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Portugal Lµney
:)
2013-11-26 20:09
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#60
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Denmark rove`
why do you not play anymore? is it because you dont have time to watch fc barcelona win champions league then? =>
2013-11-26 20:31
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#66
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Switzerland noxer*
why you left k1ck? :C
2013-11-26 21:45
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#67
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Portugal umadbrolol
Communication and teamplay problems, it must be hard for him to understand everything at moments of pressure when they are talking fast portuguese and every single detail is important at high level
2013-11-26 21:53
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#70
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Switzerland noxer*
yeah, thats probably the cause. thanks :)
2013-11-26 23:58
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#51
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Portugal fbguau
ggwp
2013-11-26 19:56
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#61
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Norway slimjim3k
Gatherheros fail again. elemeNt would be rolling in his grave... if he was dead. Better luck next time *cough*
2013-11-26 20:32
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