Maps
Best of 1 (LAN)
* Group B
1. 500 removed Ancient
2. Complexity removed Mirage
3. Complexity removed Inferno
4. 500 removed Nuke
5. 500 removed Vertigo
6. Complexity removed Dust2
7. Overpass was left over
Overpass
Rewatch
Highlights
Rainwaker - 4 AK kills on the bombsite B offensive to turn a 2vs5 situation
SHiPZ - MAC10 ACE
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
| 28-21 | +7 | 97.1 | 73.3% | 1.43 | |
| 24-23 | +1 | 78.3 | 63.3% | 1.02 | |
| 19-20 | -1 | 61.1 | 73.3% | 1.01 | |
| 17-21 | -4 | 71.3 | 73.3% | 0.99 | |
| 16-20 | -4 | 69.2 | 73.3% | 0.96 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
| 29-19 | +10 | 105.6 | 83.3% | 1.48 | |
| 24-21 | +3 | 73.0 | 76.7% | 1.14 | |
| 22-21 | +1 | 73.5 | 73.3% | 1.07 | |
| 19-20 | -1 | 73.9 | 66.7% | 1.04 | |
| 11-23 | -12 | 61.0 | 66.7% | 0.73 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
| 28-21 | +7 | 97.1 | 73.3% | 1.43 | |
| 24-23 | +1 | 78.3 | 63.3% | 1.02 | |
| 19-20 | -1 | 61.1 | 73.3% | 1.01 | |
| 17-21 | -4 | 71.3 | 73.3% | 0.99 | |
| 16-20 | -4 | 69.2 | 73.3% | 0.96 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
| 29-19 | +10 | 105.6 | 83.3% | 1.48 | |
| 24-21 | +3 | 73.0 | 76.7% | 1.14 | |
| 22-21 | +1 | 73.5 | 73.3% | 1.07 | |
| 19-20 | -1 | 73.9 | 66.7% | 1.04 | |
| 11-23 | -12 | 61.0 | 66.7% | 0.73 |
Lineups
Player of the matchwon with 82.4% of the votes
KPR
DPR
KAST
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#1
jodmod98
way2sexy |
jodmod98500 underdogs, max and relax
4 replies
#2
flusha_3_majors_NiKo_0_majors
RUSH |
flusha_3_majors_NiKo_0_majorsskade on lan?
I aren’t think that
3 replies
#7
David_Beckham
David_BeckhamShipz 1 LAN win, CoL 0 LAN win
#37
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGAlmost won nip faze on lan
#43
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lukerey
| lukereyWhen did u start watch CSGO? Why u said nonsense like that when u don't know a thing about the game? Lol
#3
Jeffcubed
nicx |
Jeffcubedez 4 the true cs goat, floppy
1 reply
#9
navi_will_win_major
Boombl4 |
navi_will_win_major+1
#4
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choko_0_major
| Crazy_Gamer |
choko_0_majormaybe prize pool large enough for 500 to not throw
#5
David_Beckham
David_BeckhamEz 500 on LAN
1 reply
#93
MapiaGameZ
DD |
MapiaGameZNo, my agents are working with them. We lose with ovah 26.5 26.7 including !
#6
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zovint
| zovintmatchfixers vs matchfixers
#10
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NgeL
| NgeL500 @ 2.37
#11
EagIe1
EagIe1bo1..hard to predict
#12
bingobangobond
s1mple |
bingobangobondcomplexity ezzzzz
#13
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jaank
| jaankgrim jobs for all
#15
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TheGamersTelevision
| | TheGamersTelevision#500ontop
#16
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oBo_top1_2024
| oBo_top1_2024The boys will clean house here.
#17
kaine_78
brutmonster |
kaine_78500 on Lan OMEGALUL
#18
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InvernoVermelho
| InvernoVermelhoPatrick looks peculiar
2 replies
#20
Shraggy
s1mple |
Shraggycant stop laughing now dammit
#29
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oBo_top1_2024
| oBo_top1_2024He reminds of something that rhymes with funky.
#19
stubakuula
stubakuulaso ez for shipz
#23
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PavIusha
| PavIushaNice odds on col
#25
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notawaffle
| notawaffleif complexity lose i will hate myself
4 replies
#26
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greensheep
| | greensheepAganst fixing/cheating team, nothing special
1 reply
#27
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SoloV
| SoloVThey can’t cheat on lan, that’s why complexity win this 16-6
#138
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Lost_Wanderer
| Lost_Wandererit's ok mens, dont hate yourself, it's complexity boys should be ashamed
1 reply
#212
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notawaffle
| notawaffleat least beating fnatic makes up for it :)
#28
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offliner228
| REZ |
offliner228This tournament is fully scripted for live betting
So it doesn't matter what teams are playing actually
They are paid actors and blatant matchfixers
cs is dead
thx for attention
5 replies
#32
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-CSGO pro scene is dead since 2020, the only least scripted is Major
2 replies
#49
SOMEBODYYYY
SOMEBODYYYYAnd major final was 🤡
1 reply
#84
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-ikr
#33
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choko_0_major
| Crazy_Gamer |
choko_0_majorYeah don’t mind the pauses at the start of every game
They definitely aren’t being told the script
1 reply
#42
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woszek
| | woszekfunny but ure right
#30
syrsoN_scout_on_dust2
ropz |
syrsoN_scout_on_dust2Cheering for me boys niki and denny !
#31
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-CSGO500 got their own team now 🤣
#34
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGEz for SHIPZ
#35
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offliner228
| REZ |
offliner228Patrick looks like he allredy bet his life savings on CoL xd
14 replies
#45
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richpatrick looks like he is stuck far far back in the evolutionary chain
13 replies
#50
mas0L
mas0LLMFAO
All 5 players from 500 look like a GTA characters coz of the lightning I guess
12 replies
#51
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richyeah but shipz and dennyslaw looks too good, ngl xd
11 replies
#52
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGshipz from a fat kid to a real man
10 replies
#55
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richdennyslaw change his look, cause dont wanna be recognized as fixer anymore xdd
9 replies
#56
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGHe looks like TaZ tbh xD
8 replies
#57
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richbut patrick XD looks like when you fix cs matches in Bulgaria, you get enough money to buy real life kingkong lmaoo
7 replies
#58
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGMy message here got deleted but look at his name and 2nd name, he's real NPC
6 replies
#59
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richhahaha, meanwhile Patrick on discord
uuh uhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
5 replies
#61
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGHe's speaking ancient slavic language I think and write text by a bone of elephant
4 replies
#63
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richhahahahahha bone of mammoth which he obtained from his grand father, who was leader of the local tribe 60 years ago
3 replies
#65
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGahahhaha, i cannot imagine how his parents looks like if he looks like this no offense.
good-looking bulgarians: shipz sexyslaw, rainwaker, CeRq, v1c7oR and viltrex. Others litteral cavemen or barmaley from the fairy tales of Pirates who eats kids and kidnapp them for bad behaviour. Atleast in Russia there's a fairy tale about Barmoley by Korney Chukovskiy
2 replies
#194
s3rp3n7
s3rp3n7Keep going with the hate behind the keyboard.
Keyboard warriors :D
1 reply
#195
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGI'm not a hater. I love Bulgaria and all these players. But I was just saying facts about them.
#36
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choko_0_major
| Crazy_Gamer |
choko_0_majorEZ 4 IVAN “Patrick” IVANOV
#39
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Rayduh
| Rayduhimagine if Complexity lose
1 reply
#40
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkCL will not win a single match.
#41
David_Beckham
David_Beckhamyesterday all matches Over, today all matches Under
1 reply
#44
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lukerey
| lukereyGL ruin my parlay over 26.5 vs heet. Sadge
#46
Match_fixing
ISFANXGOD |
Match_fixing500 underdog? Ok lol odds have never been so free
#47
betting_made_me_rich
nEGRo |
betting_made_me_richWhat the hell, Shipz and Sexyslaw, i remember last SKADE photos, they werent that good looking, "for bulgarians" lol
#48
SOMEBODYYYY
SOMEBODYYYYNoob vs fixers
#53
Punchmessi
ANa |
PunchmessiBulgarian Fixers
.
Richest player in the world
2 replies
#64
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yungz0r
| yungz0r+1 just check niki inventory =)
1 reply
#66
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGKnown tradegod and betGOD
#54
fruitjesus
fruitjesusSkade on LAN? clownfiesta
#60
NiKozerain_BGods
NiKo |
NiKozerain_BGodsOh shit. Went for 500 ML but Overpass is going to go for Complexity. RIP
#62
Mizumonte
MizumonteTrash of clash
#67
i_spread_love
saggin_balls |
i_spread_lovecol 0-4 inc
#68
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF ARE THEY DOING. NO STEPS ON B THEY JUST 4B 1 USELESS IN BANK HAAHAHHAHA THEY SO STUPID XDDD
2 replies
#69
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offliner228
| REZ |
offliner228Elisa Fixmasters Espoo
1 reply
#71
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGMore like playing CCT tournaments affect braincells
#70
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGNo no no, another dead bulgarian roster. IGL as nik1l and his NPC Patrick will not get good. Only v1c7oR the saviour the only IGL who will make this team better and boost IQ. Enjoy betting against 500 whole event.
#72
mimsonqq
mimsonqqwow skade u threw to many games and forgot how to play decent cs
2 replies
#73
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGBro, forget about this roster. They will never achieve anything when its Patrick and Niki1 on the team. 0IQ players
#74
rEZ_for_NIP
Maikelele |
rEZ_for_NIPBulgarian team= fix, throw etc
#75
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkAnd so the CL choke begins
#76
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322always
| 322alwaysnice 6-1 6-9
#77
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SmoothLife
| SmoothLife6-1 throw begin
Odds yummy
2 replies
#78
versusworld
chopper |
versusworld@5.4 at 6-2. Let's see
#79
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGTheir T side is a crap against real teams on such maps as ovp and nuke
#80
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-6 1 to 6 9 thanks for the odds CSGO500
#81
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WhenItsJust
| Jimpphat |
WhenItsJustAlways comes down to 2vs2 or 1vs1 and always 500 comes out on top
4 replies
#82
dellovv
MATYS |
dellovvjust better individuals
3 replies
#85
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WhenItsJust
| Jimpphat |
WhenItsJustNik1 and patrick better individiuals :D
2 replies
#87
dellovv
MATYS |
dellovvofc, nik1>JT aimwise
#88
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGPatrick better sexuality
#83
ErickNatalense
fame |
ErickNatalenseElisa today's order was: make rounds early and huge, then take a comeback playing on full W on yet first half. Watch out.
Yesterday their commands were for the teams to fake comeback. Then, today they come with a different one.
#86
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SmoothLife
| SmoothLifeCT side throw incoming
See this shit happen and happen again since major xD
#89
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkCl wont get to 10
3 replies
#90
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGYou meant 500
2 replies
#98
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkNo. CL wont win this. Its the worst team and Astralis plays too and will win over cl
1 reply
#116
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGAgreed, american paycheck stealers in action
#91
jasiekhere1
RIPablo Escobar |
jasiekhere1Nice spray niki
#94
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SmoothLife
| SmoothLifeEz throw CT side by this na 🤡
#95
ErickNatalense
fame |
ErickNatalenseThis "500" gross Bulgarian fixers core on this tournament says everything about their mafiosi scheme to a new LAN level
Congrats, teams taking part on this. Elisa is nuts.
3 replies
#100
MapiaGameZ
DD |
MapiaGameZBulgaria mapia is a big friend of our mapia. I am agent for my agency named ATC (AntiThrowClub)
It's big money we are getting to cooperate with them accords to scenario. Elisa takes part of it too since they are with GRID.
2 replies
#120
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Yujirooo
| YujiroooCringe
1 reply
#196
MapiaGameZ
DD |
MapiaGameZur mom cringe sb
#96
Szponius
Szponius500 easy win
2 replies
#101
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Oleczeq
| OleczeqNot in your wildest dreams
1 reply
#110
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkDude… 500 will win this
#97
Mizumonte
Mizumontefatzerk so bad KEKW
#99
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Maybe|Next|Time
| Maybe|Next|TimeSomeone say to niki that is not a 322 right now and he must try
Thank you
2 replies
#109
MapiaGameZ
DD |
MapiaGameZNik1 doing real business, we know who is him and what his business. We cooperate with Bulgarian mapias, we know every time what they will do in their games. Mapia controls it.
1 reply
#119
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Yujirooo
| YujiroooCringe
#102
acels1
ZywOo |
acels1fang is a BEAST EZ coL
#103
versusworld
chopper |
versusworldRAINWATKER
#104
NiKozerain_BGods
NiKo |
NiKozerain_BGodsHoly shit, rainwaker. wtf
#105
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Xodiac
| XodiacComplexity loses 2v5 to choke the map kekw
#106
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Devicefanboi5388
| Devicefanboi5388How did grim play for liquid . What a absolute grabage
#107
donfette
apEX |
donfettelose 5v3 and then lose game nice
#108
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SmoothLife
| SmoothLifeEz rigged matches
#111
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Maybe|Next|Time
| Maybe|Next|TimeFking niki dude
DUDE YOU LOST THIS SOLO Q
#112
wassupgee
chelleos |
wassupgeewho remembers when csgolounge used to have a team?
6 replies
#115
versusworld
chopper |
versusworldMe
1 reply
#118
wassupgee
chelleos |
wassupgee500 will suffer the same fate, a few months of activity in tier 8, then dropped by org
#121
jasiekhere1
RIPablo Escobar |
jasiekhere1They were a legit team though later picked up by g2 if I’m not wrong
3 replies
#131
wassupgee
chelleos |
wassupgeehltv.org/team/6372/csgl#tab-rosterBox
i dont remember this roster representing g2 but u might be right, g2 have done weirder things
#135
wassupgee
chelleos |
wassupgeelooks like it was kinguin, not g2
1 reply
#190
jasiekhere1
RIPablo Escobar |
jasiekhere1ah yes, my bad
#113
rEZ_for_NIP
Maikelele |
rEZ_for_NIPi just remind its ELISA
#114
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGMurica and professionalism.
Choose one
#117
Mizumonte
Mizumonte5v2 ct Overpass btw
NA btw
1 reply
#122
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGand next round they do B execute and these bots staying with no clue 4 water XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#123
Phren
Phrenas usual, top na teams getting exposed by tier 3 eu teams
#124
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-322 teams > Best NA team
2 replies
#130
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGBest NA team is Liquid xD
1 reply
#152
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kibitz-
| nEGRo |
kibitz-*2nd best
#125
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkTech pause…. Hmmm… hmmmmm
#126
Mizumonte
Mizumonteniki cant even kill usp player KEKW
#127
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yungz0r
| yungz0rx4.15 500 50$ please win …
5 replies
#136
versusworld
chopper |
versusworld@5.4
We got it
#155
NiKozerain_BGods
NiKo |
NiKozerain_BGodscongrats bro, GG
3 replies
#167
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yungz0r
| yungz0rthanks
big love!
2 replies
#169
NiKozerain_BGods
NiKo |
NiKozerain_BGodsalso got 3.97 odds on 500 ML and BNE ML, but only 2$, it's something tho. hahahaha we eatin good
1 reply
#191
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yungz0r
| yungz0rMan high odds is always good!
#128
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PavIusha
| PavIushaBack to NA clowns, can't even beat 322bulgarian bots
#129
Sdoop
SdoopTech pause at 14-15. Classic
#132
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Nexus2112
| Nexus2112NA TRASH HAHAHHA
#133
acels1
ZywOo |
acels1OF COS FAT ASS HALLZERK SO USELESS
#134
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woszek
| | woszekdisband please col
#137
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Sumerechniy
| Sumerechniyi cant believe that i lost bet on col and saw ._.
1 reply
#156
Mizumonte
MizumonteGiga omega unlucky. Wanted to do the same but decided to go for BNE + Under 26.5 col / 500
#139
BIGGEST_DavidTennant_FAN
Frankie |
BIGGEST_DavidTennant_FAN500-178.
#140
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spirit_16_1_astralis
| spirit_16_1_astralisDead team
When disband?
#142
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGMurica weak mentality, huge pay-check no professionalism, nice teeth, 0 skill and no talent. That's discribes NA region xD
#143
Derbdotdk
DerbdotdkThanks CL! 2/6 parlay done! Lesssgoooo
#144
CantBanMe
CantBanMeTold you guys , so free for T3 Bulgarian roster, 0 chance for NA =)
1 reply
#165
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MuziK
| MuziKMate, they won 6 of the last 7 rounds on T side to just steal it away.
#145
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richwilde
| richwildeBettors malding
#146
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SoloV
| SoloVI can’t believe bne save my bet, but col ruin it by lose 5v2 on ct wtfff
#147
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BigOouf
BigOoufLmfao CoL shitting the bed, and people hyped them up earlier this year
This is embarrassing for Jason
1 reply
#162
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGImagine belive in NA region, Jason must sign GIGACHAD Patrick with his friends
#148
David_Beckham
David_Beckham#5
ez money
tier 3 EU > tier 1 NA trash
#149
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Murdy
| Murdy |
MurdyJesus that's one ugly team
#150
le_pleuvoir
m0NESY |
le_pleuvoirComplexity really be losing to this matchfix stack
3 replies
#161
Gazesin
Gazesin500 is quiet strong tbh
matchfix team has to be strong so they can fix the game the way they want
1 reply
#168
le_pleuvoir
m0NESY |
le_pleuvoirlol this is not even the main roster, they have 2 new additions and somehow complexity still managed to lose
#163
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offliner228
| REZ |
offliner228all teams here are matchfix stacks
#151
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Faaakk
| | Faaakkback to NA tourists
#153
NiKozerain_BGods
NiKo |
NiKozerain_BGodsWish I did a parlay on BNE and 500 comeback, but I only did pre-match, didnt have the balls to go for the 29 odds parlay. GGs!
#154
telepath
telepathWhen will a T1 team finally pick Rainwaker up? He has deserved at least a chance for years now.
#157
SkipLD
SkipLD500 win for £500 , good start
#158
Xinlong10
kennyS |
Xinlong10did they just lose vs tier 2 team from europe with 5 vs 2 advantage and lose the game, i can't believe it how dumb this tier 1 team from NA is
2 replies
#160
rEZ_for_NIP
Maikelele |
rEZ_for_NIPTier 1 NA< Tier 3 EU< Tier 2 EU< Tier 1 EU
#170
russiantrapper
NiKo |
russiantrapperwho told you complexity is tier1 team lmao
#159
322everywhere
322everywhereYes i belive that 500 clear xdxd, whole map on shift and this bot already in bank gamesense lvl 200
#164
Sdoop
SdoopComplexity is just landfill for players that are not able to compete in tier 1
#166
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Skultik
| SkultikLOL
#171
Szponius
SzponiusSaw and Complexity are rich after their games
1 reply
#173
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG500 rich too.
#172
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Mykolkaa
| | Mykolkaa500 when odds are high on them: youtu.be/Jb9Ebe_rA8M
500 when odds are high on their opponents: youtu.be/gmhm6uvEqJY
#174
Quagmire_
El1an |
Quagmire_NA CS can't beat a bulgarian faceit mix lmaoooo
5 replies
#178
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGSHiPZ WORLD'S MVP 2018.
4 replies
#179
hypnodisco
hypnodiscowat? mvp of tournament yes but not world
3 replies
#181
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGWESG is world's tournament
2 replies
#183
hypnodisco
hypnodiscoso? only 1 trmnt was in 2018? and shipz best player of the year? cmon :D
good that he took mvp there, but hes not wolds mvp, thats wat i mean
1 reply
#184
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1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONG
| 1TYLOOYONGYUANZAIWOXINZHONGIt's in the name's tournament. He's world's MVP of 2018
#175
MadasfK
MadasfKNA TRASH NOOBS
#176
Putikainen
SunPayus |
PutikainenJunior > hallzerk
1 reply
#187
AccountForFantasy
Afghan |
AccountForFantasy+1
junior wouldn't lose it
#177
Ticket2Win
suicide |
Ticket2Winyeah fuuk off na
#182
Qosaa
QosaaWTF score I just saw. Thanks madafakers I had 500 to won
#185
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DjapeZ
| DjapeZI still remember when someone said that Complexity deserved to go to major
#186
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rexyyCSGO
| rexyyCSGOmatchfixers won
#188
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godofost
| godofostJUNIOR WOULD NEVER
#193
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Xeeh
| L.K.S |
Xeehlose 5v2 at 13-10
lose the whole map
fking unreal
$1200 btw that's how much
#197
esanchez47
f0rest |
esanchez47I'm starting to see the end of this project...
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