Epsilon kicked from EMS for cheating

The Electronic Sports League (ESL) has announced that Epsilon have been disqualified from RaidCall EMS One after being caught cheating in the first cup.

The Swedish team came out on top of EMS One Cup #1 by defeating n!faculty 2-0 in the grand final, racking up $600 and 100 points, which assured them of a great position in the ranking and put them with one foot in the group stage.

After the match, however, n!faculty filed a protest - which was not made public on the ESL's match page - as they suspected of some wrongdoing on Epsilon's part.

Having reviewed the case and analysed the demos from the match, the ESL's anti-cheat team has unanimously come to the conclusion that Jerry "xelos" Råberg cheated in that match, which was the only one that the admins went through as no other protests were filed against Epsilon in that cup or in any of the other two cups.

HLTV.org understands that the ESL does not know whether the other four Epsilon players cheated or not, only that it has enough evidence to support a case against Råberg.


schneider's team in trouble after EMS disqualification

As a result, Epsilon have been disqualified from this season of EMS One, while Råberg, who is currently playing for WRTT after being released by Epsilon last week, has been handed a two-year ban from all ESL competitions. The protest is now closed, and no further action will be taken.

The distribution of points in the first cup has been altered to reflect Epsilon's disqualification, with n!faculty now crowned champions of the tournament. The $800 that the Swedish team were supposed to win from their efforts in the first and second cups have now been distributed amongst the teams who finished first to fourth place.

Below you can find the updated rankings for the first two EMS cups:

RaidCall EMS One Cup #1 final standings:

1. Germany n!faculty - $750 (100 points)
3-4. France Imaginary - $125 (50 points)
3-4. Sweden NiP - $125 (50 points)

RaidCall EMS One Cup #2 final standings:

1. Sweden NiP - $750 (100 points)
3-4. France Imaginary - $125 (50 points)
3-4. Slovakia 3DMAX - $125 (50 points)

Below you can find a statement from Lari Syrota, Product Manager for EMS One:

"After Epsilon defeated n!faculty in the grand final of CS:GO Cup #1, the latter team filed a protest. Being aware of our responsibility, we made sure to handle this case with utmost care and diligence. And yet, after careful consideration, our anti-cheat team unanimously came to the conclusion that the Epsilon player Jerry 'xelos' Råberg cheated in said match.

"The consequences are clear: The player in question is banned from all ESL competitions for the following two years and Epsilon eSports is disqualified from the RaidCall EMS One Spring 2013. We subsequently declare n!faculty the winner of Cup #1, redistributing the 2000$ prize money of both cups to the remaining three teams.

"We take cheating issues very seriously here at the ESL, since we are aware that ensuring a fair competitive environment is the necessary fundament for successful and exciting online tournaments. Gladly, we do not only possess advanced anti-cheat technology, but also an anti-cheat admin crew with multiple years of experience and the necessary confidence to take on such cases. We will always try our best to prohibit players from taking any sort of unfair advantage."

The news will certainly raise questions about the future of Epsilon, who had signed up for the fourth EMS One Cup, which starts tonight, with former Lemondogs captain André "berg" Kjellberg and ex-Western Wolves member Jonathan "devilwalk" Lundberg as their last two players.

The Swedish team have signed up for Copenhagen Games later this month and will have to take part in the qualifier after failing to receive an invite to the main tournament.

#1
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Europe olleN
Haha. We all knew it!
2013-03-13 16:07
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Slovakia kubiaxk
this :)))
2013-03-13 16:11
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#132
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Sweden blazexpp
Where's the evidence?
2013-03-13 16:31
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5 replies
#139
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
waiting for a busted movie too
2013-03-13 16:31
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3 replies
2013-03-13 18:23
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2 replies
#431
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United Kingdom furyia
Anyone kind enough to put this on youtube?
2013-03-13 18:43
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1 reply
idk
2013-03-13 19:02
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#564
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Canada rbx
Seriously, watch an HLTV demo with x-ray on. Xelos is pretty blatant in his positioning.
2013-03-16 06:33
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WHERES ALL THE HATERS OF BRAZILIANGANGSTA NOW?
2013-03-13 17:36
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1 reply
#559
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Brazil vamolisarb
hi braziliangangsta
2013-03-14 17:18
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#463
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Chile Cristoff
exactly ;)
2013-03-13 19:36
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#2
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Romania colapso
don't tell me this is the..
2013-03-13 16:07
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#3
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France PRAELUD
Lurppis "Told you so"
2013-03-13 16:07
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#4
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Iceland CAZT :]
LOLLLL
2013-03-13 16:07
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ahaha i told you that lurpis will say some bullshit
2013-03-13 16:07
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1 reply
#217
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Pakistan sm0k1n
Damn I thought their will be some amazing news..
2013-03-13 16:49
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India n0vaP
hahahahahahaHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!
2013-03-13 16:07
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Czech Republic Pokec
Surprise!
2013-03-13 16:07
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ash | 
World ashhh
old news
2013-03-13 16:07
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#9
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Norway pongzyY
ahaha
2013-03-13 16:08
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#10
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Europe matdaz
OMFG THOUGH IT WAS A CSGO UPDATE
2013-03-13 16:08
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#11
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Sweden flusha
You couldnt write "xelos busted for cheating in the EMS, epsilon disqualified" ???
2013-03-13 16:08
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#19
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Netherlands JUAREZtw
unlucky, just unlucky...
2013-03-13 16:09
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#22
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Sweden Marcus1g
Like the rest of the team didnt knew he was cheating, please.
2013-03-13 16:10
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2 replies
#239
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Finland hobE;Dd
+1
2013-03-13 16:56
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#244
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Germany pa$co
+1
2013-03-13 17:01
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#26
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France jaimez
Did you know about this ? Is that also why xelos and Lox quit ?
2013-03-13 16:10
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#29
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Sweden Marcus1g
Ofc he knew, xelos wasnt the only one cheating, he was just the only one getting caught/having a protest against.
2013-03-13 16:11
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the whole team cheat.. xelos was the only dumb one caught.. they are pathetic
2013-03-13 16:14
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#50
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Finland boOzyy
You keep cheaters in your team then you also suffer the consequences and everything that comes with it
2013-03-13 16:14
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5 replies
#57
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Sweden flusha
ofc i will suffer consequences but now EPSILON gets the shitstorm when the only one who knew about it was xelos himself (i guess)
2013-03-13 16:15
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#67
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Portugal haas-
you're full of bullshit. you guys suddenly stopped playing like gods, and then all of a sudden you release 2 players. you knew about this since the beginning
2013-03-13 16:17
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#85
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Spain lolfake
shut up,that mofo was playing with aug against k1ck thinking he was some kind of god troller,fuck you and your team
2013-03-13 16:20
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#165
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Finland boOzyy
How stupid do you think people are?
2013-03-13 16:37
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#247
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Germany pa$co
and 5.000 hltv users...
2013-03-13 17:02
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you bring shame to sweden u cheater fuck
2013-03-13 16:15
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#263
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Denmark buggeh
hahahhaah :D I'm agreeing with you. This just made me laugh. No offense :D
2013-03-13 17:09
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#481
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Netherlands sleepK
(hands out pitchforks and torches)
2013-03-13 20:26
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#65
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France PRAELUD
Couldn't you say the truth about releasing Lox and xelos before ?
2013-03-13 16:16
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#68
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India n0vaP
Like the rest of the team didnt knew he was cheating, please.
2013-03-13 16:17
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#92
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Italy -=A=-
no, cheater
2013-03-13 16:21
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#106
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Sweden ejjz
Haha yeah you're so innocent.. Bullshit. Im glad they busted your ass.
2013-03-13 16:25
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11 replies
#122
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Sweden flusha
none has busted "my ass" ? xD
2013-03-13 16:29
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10 replies
pasza will, hopefully
2013-03-13 16:32
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#150
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Sweden flusha
hahaha <3
2013-03-13 16:33
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6 replies
#233
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Sweden rubbe
1 hit from pasha is an awp shot in your head so you better watch out
2013-03-13 16:54
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#428
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Portugal chuckyloniah
ahha xD but there is a but if he know how to fight ,pasha cant do anything :) just 1 right cross , and hes down :S with thoose big muscles he cant even defend himself :D
2013-03-13 18:41
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#440
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Sweden rubbe
whirlwind with both arms out and its gg ;D
2013-03-13 18:50
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#487
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Finland Gangstahomie
You think so? So you didnt knew that pasha trains mma.
2013-03-13 20:46
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2 replies
#563
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Portugal chuckyloniah
i didnt knew , neither do you i guess :D
2013-03-16 06:11
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#573
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Finland Gangstahomie
He does practice mma.
2013-03-16 16:22
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#174
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Sweden ejjz
You as a team.
2013-03-13 16:37
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#483
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Korea ws0
*yet
2013-03-13 20:42
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#116
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France marrrk
There's no room for so long a title.
2013-03-13 16:28
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#209
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Netherlands tActive
hahaahahaha, ur the biggest joke in the CS scene together with all ur teammates Playing like gods on the inet and when u play in a LANcafe u got ur asses kicked around every map vs NIP.
2013-03-13 16:54
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#232
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Germany synnnn
The rest cheats also, retard
2013-03-13 16:54
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#305
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Netherlands g@M
We still like to see you guys in lan all of you
2013-03-13 17:31
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HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA U SUCK
2013-03-13 17:57
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#366
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Malta Eneko*
sad but better dont show up in lan, players will beat u
2013-03-13 18:04
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#398
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Sweden noobzoris
Yeah because the rest of you aint shady as fuck...You guys will always be the least respected guys in competetive counter-strike. Deal with it.
2013-03-13 18:17
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#454
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World Kobs
retard team
2013-03-13 19:06
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#584
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kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax
Nt cheater
2016-07-27 11:51
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#12
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Norway SUPERKALLE
Saved my day :D
2013-03-13 16:08
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#13
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Denmark hundelaar
Wauw unlucky for you Greg :<
2013-03-13 16:08
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#14
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Portugal se7eNtz
ahahaha, not expected
2013-03-13 16:08
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gj jOpe :-D
2013-03-13 16:08
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France Spip
proof?
2013-03-13 16:08
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made my day wmb we were right bro <3
2013-03-13 16:09
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#40
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Slovakia kubiaxk
wmb <3
2013-03-13 16:12
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#70
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Portugal haas-
indeed, I'd like to see what do all the retards that flamed the guy and defended Epsilon, have to say about this
2013-03-13 16:17
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#548
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Russia Mitrafe
what is mean "wmb"?
2013-03-14 10:29
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#18
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Sweden Marcus1g
Only xelos got banned? Come on teams, start protesting more.
2013-03-13 16:09
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#20
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Denmark vinZento
ESL realized they couldn't pay out the money, this was their way to handle it.. :)
2013-03-13 16:09
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#25
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Portugal Schypher
"We subsequently declare n!faculty the winner of Cup #1, redistributing the 2000$ prize money of both cups to the remaining three teams."
2013-03-13 16:10
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#32
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Australia mr.dog
The $800 that the Swedish team were supposed to win from their efforts in the first and second cups have now been distributed amongst the teams who finished first to fourth place.
2013-03-13 16:11
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#49
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Germany Dok1
what? n!faculty gets the money now...^^
2013-03-13 16:14
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#71
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Portugal haas-
wow, try to use your brain b4 posting? clueless retard
2013-03-13 16:18
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4 replies
#99
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Denmark vinZento
maybe you should know what sarcasm is before judging.
2013-03-13 16:23
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#435
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Denmark AndersR
there really wasn't anything to strongly indicate you where sarcastic, and considering this is written there have to be. Either by outrageous statements which really only works if you have a reputation for being level-headed normally, or you can write /s after the end of the sentence either way sarcasm/irony on the internet should just not be used.
2013-03-13 18:45
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#522
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Twistzz | 
Netherlands  DIVERSE
it was quite obvious really. Most bold statements are meant sarcastically. Also, his statement isn't even original. You hear it at a lot of sports when teams get disqualified.
2013-03-13 22:59
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#534
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Denmark AndersR
considering that it wasn't that bold considering the history of ESL (which now seems to be fixed) I wouldn't say that it was obvious at all more a try to bash ESL by jumping on an old circlejerk.
2013-03-14 01:01
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#196
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Poland LIKE A BAWS
Read the news, retard.
2013-03-13 16:43
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#226
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Denmark vinZento
read my comment, retard.
2013-03-13 16:51
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5 replies
#259
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Poland LIKE A BAWS
Get a brain.
2013-03-13 17:05
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idiot...
2013-03-13 17:28
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3 replies
#309
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Denmark vinZento
damn people are getting serious nowadays
2013-03-13 17:34
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#453
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Venezuela Riikards
Yup, even if you put a little smile on it, they still don't notice the sarcasm
2013-03-13 19:05
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#513
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Denmark vinZento
Exactly, I thought that little ":)" in the would indicate that I was being sarcastic, but obviously too hard to expect from some people in here :D
2013-03-13 22:02
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Iceland CAZT :]
hahahaha xelos
2013-03-13 16:09
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#23
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Serbia aLK :]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
2013-03-13 16:10
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#24
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Sweden Lokq
wow.. this never stops does it? :P i really dont care if he cheated or not but i would like some kind of proof of it all
2013-03-13 16:10
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#27
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Sweden zende
No proof??? You just destroy his reputation and ban him from some of the most important tournaments with NO PROOF? What the fuck is this? Like, they can't even say what type of cheat it was? It was just a cheat?
2013-03-13 16:22
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What no proof? Obv. there is proof..u know..not everything has to be made public .... u SRSLY want to defend this cheater team? Like.... srsly?! Swedes these days....
2013-03-13 16:13
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#69
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Sweden zende
There is no proof at all lol, I don't understand how you can believe the biased germans at ESL... I just think people should be a bit critical about their sources and just not blindly believe anything an "anti-cheat team" says with no proof at all to back up their claims. xelos did well at LANs before, he just played VYE a few weeks ago and he performed pretty well. It's really unfair of ESL to just make these claims and fuck his career up, because he will be regarded as a cheater now from everyone.
2013-03-13 16:17
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#77
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Portugal haas-
WHO THE FUCK ARE VYE, CUT THE CRAP ALREADY jesus christ
2013-03-13 16:19
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6 replies
#124
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
I'm pretty sure VYE could win every CSGO event in Portugal :)
2013-03-13 16:29
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#175
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Portugal haas-
It's not like I'm one of those blindfolded fanboys supporting every Portuguese team, so your comment doesn't really affect me.
2013-03-13 16:38
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#237
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Croatia ile=D
THIS!!!!
2013-03-13 16:56
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#437
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Denmark AndersR
as if that matters?
2013-03-13 18:47
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#460
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Portugal FbOrxrx
hltv.org/match/1998268-netherlands-portu.. like you did last year right against us without foxj?
2013-03-13 19:31
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#472
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World gREPUS SKA
#460 own3d you
2013-03-13 19:51
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#95
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Germany a4l
" blindly believe anything an "anti-cheat team" says with no proof at all to back up their claims" Why do you think it took several weeks to come up with this descision? The ban is justified, you can download the demos yourself, if you want proof. Biased germans, sure, biased swede.
2013-03-13 16:22
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#206
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United Kingdom james_t_kirk
playing good on lan means you cant cheat online? news to me
2013-03-13 16:46
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#215
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Netherlands tActive
oh please zende..
2013-03-13 16:48
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#231
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Germany synnnn
yay bro yay they didn't cheat oh wait
2013-03-13 16:53
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#258
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World Flikgoeswild
VYE is so fucking dog no offense, its not hard to play good against a worse team.
2013-03-13 17:05
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#393
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India RemaKe4D
If you play good at LAN that doesn't mean you cannot cheat . and why only they are in news there are many underdog teams and they are performing well they don't get accused.
2013-03-13 18:14
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#404
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Sweden noobzoris
It's been investigated for like two weeks..Im pretty fucking sure ESL wouldnt ban him just because he was a part of Epsilon. Xelos has always been really shady and no1 can deny that. I'm sure they had enough evidence to ban him. Just deal with it.
2013-03-13 18:19
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#128
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Sweden ejjz
This individual acted foolish and you blame Sweden. God, germans these days... See?
2013-03-13 16:30
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Yes, he sees.
2013-03-13 16:47
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#365
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Europe hest1
they had "proof" when they banned COLON too
2013-03-13 18:03
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#47
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United Kingdom Rickeh^
Who said there was no proof? It clearly states there was no proof the other four cheated, which is why they haven't all been handed the same punishment. As for xelos, I doubt they would ban him for two years without proof he cheated.
2013-03-13 16:13
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#78
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Sweden zende
As I said before,please be a bit skeptical about your sources. I think they should have some proof to back it up so people can make an own assessment of the matter instead of just telling people an anti cheat team has decided he cheated. You know, they're destroying careers with no proof because brainless people like you believe anything a pretty notorious organisation says. :)
2013-03-13 16:19
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#108
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Belgium Zapper1337
The proof for them is that the records show he cheated but like every "anti-cheat team" they can be mistaken. Colon was banned @ clanbase for cheating but when seeing the records about him there is nothing at all. For this one i don't know, someone should do a video about it with wh
2013-03-13 16:26
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#349
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Norway SUPERKALLE
So coloN didnt cheat here: youtube.com/watch?v=vh1EfnOJ2tE ?
2013-03-13 17:56
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4 replies
#402
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Belgium Zapper1337
there are many actions in those videos where you can clearly say you could see the ennemy before he aimed on it.
2013-03-13 18:18
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#525
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Sweden Grunknisse
Scene 4 was just blatant. Look at it again and tell me that isn't someone cheating.
2013-03-13 23:10
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#526
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Belgium Zapper1337
He misses some shots, isn't at all pre-aiming on players i don't really see the problem. there is a smoke that's true but only 1 Sometimes you have info of your mates for example ct corridor/ bpa/heaton. That guy small ladder that comes at the beginning is info i bet or just sound because he goes really fast on that small ladder to go fuse box/train 5
2013-03-13 23:19
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#533
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Spain kei.
colon showed his skills in lan...mvp copenhagen 2012 so there is nothing to say about him
2013-03-14 00:13
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coloN obviously cheated, stop being delusional
2013-03-13 17:59
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#403
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Belgium Zapper1337
there are many actions in those videos where you can clearly say you could see the ennemy before he aimed on it.
2013-03-13 18:19
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#131
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World Take on me
i support you fully out. Its INSANE to ban a player for two years + ban a whole team since some "anti-cheating-team" did found out that he was cheating, without any proof. (as we can see) Srsly ESL.. get a grip
2013-03-13 16:30
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#178
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United Kingdom Rickeh^
As someone who works in the industry I'm always extremely sceptical about my sources. However as I said before, the reputation of the ESL rests on their ability to make well informed decisions, decision which in this instance I trust. Let's not forget they have the best anti-cheat on the market. If they baned xelos for cheating then suffice to say he was caught cheating by their anti-cheat, or at the very least his actions were suspicious enough to warrant a ban for 2 years. As for the others, well, I personally think that they're not legit, but given the ESL have no evidence to back that up their decision not to ban them seems pretty justified.
2013-03-13 16:41
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#229
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Finland DessuHopo
You are pretty fucking ignorant.If they release some video of him it doesnt change anything.people would still just have divided opinions about it saying that "lol he doesnt cheat in this" or "lol its so obvious,justified ban!" And saying that the ones that ban the cheaters are ruining careers is hilarious.i think the cheaters are ruining themselfs. Only thing im not comfortable with is that they only watched demos from xelos.i have the feeling he is not the only one cheating there.And you also need to understand that hackers are not always shitty players without hacks.they just use them when it counts the most to be certain of the desired outcome.
2013-03-13 16:53
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#76
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New Zealand jonzR
what are you? Judge?
2013-03-13 16:19
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#80
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Sweden zende
Nope I'm not a judge, but are ESL? With NO PROOF?
2013-03-13 16:19
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#121
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Germany freakopaN
swedish fanboy you are so anoying...
2013-03-13 16:29
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1 reply
#407
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Sweden noobzoris
He's not a fanboy. He's one of them random semi-elites from Sweden who switches teams once a week...Aka the same piece of crap as Xelos
2013-03-13 18:22
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#123
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Croatia Caliph
There is a proof,a demo,probbably which we will never see to judge on our own,but if they do release a demo than that would be thousands of arguments about if he cheated or not,maybe its better this way,i cant remember now who sad it but i remember a sentence from one player saying that if something looks like a crap and smells like a crap then it is crap.
2013-03-13 16:29
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from pauLo: ESL have a professional experienced team(paid too i think) that watches strange demos , and the proof is public , download the demo and watch it by yourself , now stop defending your shitty mates and thank god the protest wasn't filled againts the others too but only againts xelos :D
2013-03-13 16:31
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#145
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Denmark TheMonk
dude - there is demos = proof... I havent seen the demoes, and im not interesting as I believe ESL, the biggest and oldest electronic sports league in the world has qualified ppl so spot cheat. just because you havent seen the proof doesnt mean its not there. be a annoyance to ESL if you want those demoes.
2013-03-13 16:32
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#441
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Denmark AndersR
Actually yes they are, it's their tournament if they decided someone cheated they are in their right to ban him and the team.
2013-03-13 18:51
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#110
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Hungary nistyhun
Downlod that damn demo from ESL site if u want proof because IT IS THE PROOF. what u need more?
2013-03-13 16:26
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#126
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France breezy0
how can you destroy an already destroyed reputation?
2013-03-13 16:30
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#302
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India BullzWiz
Proof is anti-cheat team's Experience who caught him and everyone knows what whole Epsilon is capable. Really, funny after all this you defending them. ROFL
2013-03-13 17:29
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#28
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Finland NevesX
2013-03-13 16:11
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#118
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zyh | 
Norway rawriez
:DDDDDDDDD
2013-03-13 16:29
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#31
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United Kingdom shaney
rofl
2013-03-13 16:11
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#33
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Italy Stefanex
LOOOOOOOOOOL fuckin Xelos
2013-03-13 16:11
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Where is the proof?
2013-03-13 16:11
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#373
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Australia TotalEclipse
In the demo.
2013-03-13 18:06
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#35
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United Kingdom jimak
good riddance, those group of players are no use to the scene.
2013-03-13 16:11
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#36
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Belgium vladb57
so we should just take their word? lol
2013-03-13 16:11
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#501
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World asdcvf
Their site, their tournament, their rules, their admin crew, their decision.
2013-03-13 21:37
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#37
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World Stanleyyy
I was hoping that's was schneider........
2013-03-13 16:12
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#38
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Romania colapso
lol some random swedish guy banned by esl wowowowowow lurpiss nc
2013-03-13 16:12
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yeah important news
2013-03-13 16:12
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boring
2013-03-13 16:12
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#43
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Finland DEMONI
ggwp
2013-03-13 16:12
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#44
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Denmark RoF-Anders
tragic
2013-03-13 16:12
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#45
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Slovakia Strenki
hahahahaha :D
2013-03-13 16:13
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#48
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Denmark GrekMaR
tragic that someone would cheat like that... :(
2013-03-13 16:13
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#51
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Finland  jOELZ
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2013-03-13 16:14
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#52
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United States 000000
"I Toled you so..." Epsilon #1 cheaters in CS history.
2013-03-13 16:14
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#59
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Italy Stefanex
only 1 player not full team noob -.-
2013-03-13 16:15
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#83
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Portugal haas-
the whole team knew about this. I personally think that he was not the only one who cheated. you're the noob
2013-03-13 16:20
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#90
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Germany jbk1g
for me schneider,flusha,jw,xelos - all these shits will always be considered as cheaters and I don't even watch them, hope they will be raped by everyone at CPh, fucking hate them
2013-03-13 16:21
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#102
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Netherlands zynaps
If you don't watch them how can you call them cheaters? Maybe you should watch them stream on twitch sometime?
2013-03-13 16:24
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8 replies
#112
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Belgium Zapper1337
was xelos streaming too sometimes ?
2013-03-13 16:27
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6 replies
#115
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Italy Stefanex
yes
2013-03-13 16:28
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1 reply
#130
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Belgium Zapper1337
ok thx
2013-03-13 16:30
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#462
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truth | 
Norway tomzeyRrRRrR
Eh, how do you know this?
2013-03-13 19:35
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#464
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Belgium Zapper1337
schneider and jesperwow streamed sometimes, i guess they almost all did. wanted to look for his vods but i can only see 2 at xelos account
2013-03-13 19:37
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#466
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
truth | 
Norway tomzeyRrRRrR
They didnt cheat when they streamed, cuz they sucked donkeyballs when they streamed, both of them.
2013-03-13 19:39
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#468
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Belgium Zapper1337
i want to check the vods for that yeah. i can't read the demos of xelos here cuz i don't have the right computer with cs go on it.
2013-03-13 19:41
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#202
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Germany jbk1g
I don't watch them NOW, I watched them earlier
2013-03-13 16:44
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#179
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Sweden Snipatore
told*
2013-03-13 16:39
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1 reply
#183
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United States 000000
Yea, sorry.
2013-03-13 16:40
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#54
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Denmark NikitaTotskiy
morons :/
2013-03-13 16:14
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#58
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Germany jbk1g
wmb was right, the only troll with brain, unlike other bad trolls
2013-03-13 16:15
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#60
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Romania ovidiusd
? new site nip :))))
2013-03-13 16:15
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#61
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Sweden Nalyx
give me the proff then instead of just write hes cheating
2013-03-13 16:15
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#62
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Norway zynthex
what a surprise, totally didn't expect this! ...
2013-03-13 16:15
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#63
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France bIsKeR
BAEM !!
2013-03-13 16:15
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#66
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World baconattack
false information... JesperW Flusha Lox Have been found clean after being accused of aimbotting and wallhacking. Xelos however has been confirmed to cheating. All other 3 players were said innocent by ESL (reviewed demos) and only Xelos to be said cheating.
2013-03-13 16:16
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#72
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Romania ovidiusd
the proof?
2013-03-13 16:18
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#73
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Poland mynio:D
HAHAHHAHHA
2013-03-13 16:18
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#74
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France personalj
justice !
2013-03-13 16:18
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#75
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Romania freez0
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
2013-03-13 16:19
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#79
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France Sowansi
I TOLD U SO
2013-03-13 16:19
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#81
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Slovakia daviddd
:D Im not sure but they play that qual in internet cafe as they say. To show all they are clean. So dont care if cheat only 1 or all. If they play from caffe they now about cheating...
2013-03-13 16:20
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#119
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Italy Stefanex
the second cup, not the first
2013-03-13 16:29
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#276
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Germany Yoshi2404
Does that matter? They still can cheat together at an internetcafe, don't they?
2013-03-13 17:15
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#82
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India AwpTimisT KappaMode
But, xelos! The only guy, nd maybe Lox, whom i thought were the only Non-Cheaters there.
2013-03-13 16:20
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#84
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Indonesia Fzn.
hahhaha LOL hahahahahahaha
2013-03-13 16:20
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#86
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine de_nys
Thank God.
2013-03-13 16:21
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#87
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Denmark Pimp
First thing ESL does right i guess
2013-03-13 16:21
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#187
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zyh | 
Norway rawriez
hahah true :D
2013-03-13 16:41
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#88
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Romania ovidiusd
someone writes "gg" lololol
2013-03-13 16:21
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1 reply
#103
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France jaimez
n!faculty manager
2013-03-13 16:25
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#89
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Portugal AragorN_-
and news???
2013-03-13 16:21
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#91
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World OutStyle
cuz they don't have chlenix
2013-03-13 16:21
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schneider and flusha :((((
2013-03-13 16:22
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#94
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France PRAELUD
PASZA : gimme ur demo if u hax i will find you Xelos' picture also was on EsportSM.. dude run!
2013-03-13 16:22
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#163
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Slovakia kubiaxk
DUDE RUN!!! :d
2013-03-13 16:35
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#96
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Netherlands zynaps
They all sat in the same room at a gaming café when they beat n!faculty.
2013-03-13 16:22
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4 replies
#104
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Germany Grundsolide
wrong... that was against NiP (they got 3 rounds on 2 maps or so...)
2013-03-13 16:25
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2 replies
#201
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World Bainshie6
Actually they beat nfac and imaginary at the same place.
2013-03-13 16:44
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1 reply
#219
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Belgium oozniot
only img :-)
2013-03-13 16:50
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#335
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Spain lolfake
they played against k1ck without being in a internet cafe and some shots he made through smokes were blatant as fuck,and who says that he wasnt saying where the guys were when he was dead?
2013-03-13 17:49
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#97
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Sweden dolkenn
This is so retarded, god this is like insanly retarded. Xelos don't cheat..
2013-03-13 16:23
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2 replies
#279
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Germany pa$co
Ok, thanks you've clarified that
2013-03-13 17:17
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#486
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Korea ws0
swedish are the only one defending him, funny.
2013-03-13 20:45
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#98
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India Ad1_KaM
If they were so serious about cheaters, why didn't they check with the other 4 players and ban them if they did cheat? Not supporting Epsilon but really fishy! :/
2013-03-13 16:23
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#125
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Belgium Zapper1337
all demos where checked i think if i understand what the esl guy said.
2013-03-13 16:30
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#176
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Denmark Wolfztar
2013-03-13 16:38
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#195
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Korea Incendix
they checked them all, only one was suspicious. glad they kicked him :)
2013-03-13 16:43
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#100
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Finland debauch
ahahahah
2013-03-13 16:24
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#101
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Romania ovidiusd
God forgives you son!!!
2013-03-13 16:24
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#105
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India n0vaP
RattlesnK - Epsilon will need a great AWPer.
2013-03-13 16:25
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2 replies
#170
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Canada sanTi-
lol!
2013-03-13 16:37
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1 reply
#213
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Germany jbk1g
it's not funny anymore..
2013-03-13 16:47
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#107
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Netherlands guzzj
OMFG I can't believe that people are actually defending them... FUCK THEM!!!
2013-03-13 16:26
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#109
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden robiinxd
Quite sure they played from a internet cafe that game, and I am 100000000000% that he did not cheat there. GGWP ESL.
2013-03-13 16:26
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Are you guys fuckin morons? They were in the internet cafe only on the sencond cup, when they didn't do shit.
2013-03-13 16:40
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#401
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Slovakia zaerius
bro pls check your informations before u write here shit!..they played at icafe 2nd cup and only the semi finals vs img(img nearly beat them) and the finals vs NIP where they got only 6 rounds on two maps!!!!
2013-03-13 18:18
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#111
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France breezy0
only xelos? i'm slightly disappointed. but way to go, no mercy for this filth. 4 targets left.
2013-03-13 16:27
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#113
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Portugal exorN
ups hahaha
2013-03-13 16:27
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#114
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RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077
obvious is obvious
2013-03-13 16:28
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#117
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World baconattack
epsilon-esports.org/index.asp?page=artic.. Heard ESL will contact HLTV for misleading information.
2013-03-13 16:28
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#120
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Romania TRS1906
Well aint this a surprise.
2013-03-13 16:29
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#127
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Romania ovidiusd
Can I come the police?
2013-03-13 16:30
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#129
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Italy VoHiYo
I would like to see the proof before judging him, you never know.
2013-03-13 16:30
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#133
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Argentina natswag
LOL HAHAHAHAHA
2013-03-13 16:31
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#134
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Still waiting for lox to be banned to
2013-03-13 16:31
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#152
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Italy Stefanex
lox, like jw scneider and flusha, won't be banned due to ESL don't think they have cheated
2013-03-13 16:34
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#162
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Im glad that xelos is banned, but Lox is even more obv cheating
2013-03-13 16:35
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#135
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Sweden Salcc
hahaha
2013-03-13 16:31
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#136
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
I'm pretty sure xelos didn't cheat. What proof does the ESL have? Xelos shot some headshots with the aug?
2013-03-13 16:31
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#140
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Finland xseveN=D
aimboat :D:DD:
2013-03-13 16:31
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#141
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Sweden zende
+111111
2013-03-13 16:31
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#153
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Slovenia antraks
I'm also pretty skeptical about him cheating, he played quite good on LANs, and with no anti-cheat proof.. Why would he fuck up his own career by cheating in some EMS matches..
2013-03-13 16:34
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#172
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
Yup. I've seen xelos play A LOT, from like the end of 1.6. (when he already had a superb aim) He played well on ESL and ESEA. He played good on 1.6 LANs in Sweden and also recently against VYE in CSGO.( many HLTV.org users underestimate this team ) If he cheated I would like the ESL to announce what kind of cheat he used, you can't just ban someone for cheating without presenting any proof, that is just disgusting.
2013-03-13 16:37
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#185
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Portugal krezylobstah
they obviously have no hard evidence. no, i'm SURE they don't have any hard evidence (anti-cheat records i mean). they probably had their AC team view the demos and reach a conclusion.
2013-03-13 16:40
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#257
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Finland joona
+1, i would really like to see the actual evidence, he was such a beast on 2012 @ 1.6
2013-03-13 17:05
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#552
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Finland 007530
online?
2013-03-14 14:27
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#485
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Portugal foxjoverall
Aligon.xelos - top 8 in swe 1.6 (1 year ago) WRTT.xelos - top 2 in swe GO (today) seems legit...
2013-03-13 20:45
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#394
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Romania blg-
+1, i'm waiting proof.
2013-03-13 18:16
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#138
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Chile emekattzeN
old news
2013-03-13 16:31
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#142
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Greece her-1g
so only xelos was cheating? very doubtful!
2013-03-13 16:32
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#143
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Sweden zende
Proof please x))) Embarrassing from ESL.
2013-03-13 16:32
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#160
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Finland JIMIIII
he's banned and you need to get used to it
2013-03-13 16:35
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#203
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Sweden rubbe
More embarrassing for Epsilon.
2013-03-13 16:45
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#144
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Slovenia antraks
inb4 wmb comment
2013-03-13 16:32
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#148
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France bIsKeR
so now ; -Xelos -Lox +berg +devilwalk
2013-03-13 16:33
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#149
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Romania ovidiusd
but this is not the surprise of GTR?
2013-03-13 16:33
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#151
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Czech Republic huhyyy
wow.. hope other players will make some nice plays at CPH Games
2013-03-13 16:33
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hahahhaaaahaahaha
2013-03-13 16:34
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#157
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World ohmydog
ive seen the demo from that game , and its like , wtf its wrong with esl admins ? they prolly play tetris or something . xelos busted for cheating ? too many headshots maybe ? ffs . they waste 500k dollars in a newbie anticheat , and then , they ban the clean ones . gigi esl . at least put a video or something with the actions .
2013-03-13 16:34
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#158
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland headder
Nothing new...
2013-03-13 16:35
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#159
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland Eroooo
Don't allow them to play in any league
2013-03-13 16:35
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#161
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Sweden Vilseledd
Well who couldn't see this coming. With all the random fatties in "top" tier teams nowadays, you can't trust any of them. I miss the days when you had solid guys of 5, with years of recognition from the scene, which you could trust would never lay hands on cheats. Welcome to the counter-strike era of "which fat rat is going to earn the most on foul play".
2013-03-13 16:35
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Sad but true, man.
2013-03-13 19:03
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#164
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Sweden Snipatore
german org giving win to a german team, like usual ;)
2013-03-13 16:36
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1 reply
#331
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United Kingdom ashed
Bitter much?
2013-03-13 17:47
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#166
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Slovakia tenzen
i think even schneider is not legit
2013-03-13 16:37
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#167
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania ovidiusd
Come on PROOF !!!!!!!!!
2013-03-13 16:37
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#168
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic ddave
hh
2013-03-13 16:37
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#169
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India AwpTimisT KappaMode
2013-03-13 16:37
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#171
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Portugal fariaa
ahahaha i knew it!! but xelos said : youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XF..
2013-03-13 16:37
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#173
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine Slate
and what type of cheat? esl wire so weak?
2013-03-13 16:37
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#177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland CaB456
IM SO SHOCKED :D
2013-03-13 16:38
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#180
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom !Subby
How/WHY do orgs continue to pick this team up?
2013-03-13 16:39
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#198
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Belgium oozniot
xelos is no more in epsilon
2013-03-13 16:43
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#181
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Belgium oozniot
i really dont know what to think.. in a part, i feel sad for them, and for their reputation until their first event. btw xelos played well in swedish masters and i feel pretty sad for him and for his future. hope there are real proofs behind this, btw gl to wrtt and epsilon for their future.
2013-03-13 16:40
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#182
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France personalj
All the players of epsilon should be banned to all online competitions
2013-03-13 16:40
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#471
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Belgium Zapper1337
hell no. xD
2013-03-13 19:46
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#186
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Sweden BenneDoT
gg
2013-03-13 16:41
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#188
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World baconattack
The only real unfortunate part is that this does not reveal the entire Protest Ticket. The Protest ticket which actually accused flusha, JesperW, Xelos & Lox, after deliberation, the admins only found Xelos to be cheating, and the others were cleared up. This does mean for Epsilon, having a couple weeks ago released Xelos & Lox, for reasons apart, is promising for their next appearance at CPHGames with Jesper (who everyone continually accuses of cheating, yet has now been cleared). Same with flusha! or schneider! It's unfortunately HLTV does not write correct information such as fragbyte does.
2013-03-13 16:42
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#207
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Bainshie6
hltv giving out proper unbiased information? When?
2013-03-13 16:46
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It's unfortunate that you are writing false information (probably someone from Epsilon). The ESL does not say that the other four guys did not cheat, so they are not clearing them. They just say that there is not evidence to say they cheated, which is completely different. The ESL does not state that someone is clean, only that someone cheated. So stop writing bullshit because I am in contact with the ESL admins. Cheers.
2013-03-13 16:47
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#255
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
Stop trying so hard, your lying and everybody knows it, your just making yourself and Epsilon looking even more pathetic, probably epsilon-staff/player guy. Stop making MIRAA own you.
2013-03-13 17:04
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#445
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal mfxd
And u plz stop being a fanboy and a sucker .
2013-03-13 18:57
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#467
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
You even know the definition of the word "Fanboy"? How am i a "Fanboy" for saying that guy is obviously someone related with the Epsilon team lying (as MIRAA said) about the info given out by ESL in order to clean the rest of Epsilon's members (who obviously knew he was cheating/were cheating aswell themselves) ? Sir, get a brain, will you?
2013-03-13 19:41
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#508
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal mfxd
"(as MIRAA said)" ty its enough for me
2013-03-13 21:54
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#189
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada juven1lle
xelos flusha lox.jw.schneider faken online cheaters
2013-03-13 16:41
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#190
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Netherlands tActive
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2013-03-13 16:42
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#191
HLTV Verified Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia STYKOp
In flusha and schneider defence I would say the title is a bit misleading, telling that this whole cheating-accuse is fault of new Epsilon line-up. Of course they are two controversy players, but still nothing has been proved against them. Blame xelos, not flusha/schneider
2013-03-13 16:42
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#192
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World kanarie
hacking guys, was so obvious
2013-03-13 16:42
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8 replies
#200
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World baconattack
stop putting an s, the others were proven innocent by ESL admins.
2013-03-13 16:43
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7 replies
#224
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Germany synnnn
They weren't
2013-03-13 16:51
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#254
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Finland ZoqFotPik
did you read the news? the others were not investigated at all
2013-03-13 17:04
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2 replies
#300
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Korea Incendix
the question is, did you read the news ? because if you did ill just tell you to read it again, more carefully, because they reviewed all demos from that match, not just xelos's demo.
2013-03-13 17:28
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#321
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Finland ZoqFotPik
true, my bad. i misunderstood the "which was the only one that the admins went through" thx bro
2013-03-13 17:43
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#369
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom Xxit
Stop trying so hard to defend them even if they weren't hacking them selves, playing with hackers on your team and doing nothing about it is no better than hacking. If everybody else knew he was cheating and suspected so many times I'm sure his own teammates knew.
2013-03-13 18:05
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#576
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World kanarie
stfu
2013-03-19 20:09
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#579
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World kanarie
u fack off naab
2013-04-02 17:00
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#193
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Kevzz
So, any evidence??
2013-03-13 16:42
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#194
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden rubbe
Why is everyone so suprised?
2013-03-13 16:43
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1 reply
#325
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Chile emekattzeN
+1
2013-03-13 17:45
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C'mon guys it's an easy game, why cheating ?!!
2013-03-13 16:43
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#199
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom !Subby
2013-03-13 16:43
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#204
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World The "is" man
I cant understand. how did they go to lans if they cheat ? ...
2013-03-13 16:45
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6 replies
#256
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
yeah, xelos was sick when they played IMG and then hole epsilon was on IT-café
2013-03-13 17:04
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#383
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia TotalEclipse
People can still cheat online..
2013-03-13 18:10
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4 replies
#420
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Denmark Wich
*offline
2013-03-13 18:30
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3 replies
#465
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World The "is" man
offline ? ... how ? -.- they dont have judge ?
2013-03-13 19:37
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1 reply
#473
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Wich
youtube.com/watch?v=unhdt-hWYOw a danish player have confessed about cheating since go came out, included lans with this cheat
2013-03-13 19:55
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#542
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia TotalEclipse
I meant online. I understand that people can cheat at LAN, but the chances of a player doing so is very slim. But it's not uncommon for a player to play legit at LAN and cheat online.
2013-03-14 05:01
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#205
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Keirt
LOL
2013-03-13 16:46
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#208
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Icy423
So is pasha gonna find them now?
2013-03-13 16:47
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#211
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium splyyy
I think , it's maybe true, but in master swedish , xelos was one of the best of his team so we will see, i hope we will see xelos very good in lan.
2013-03-13 16:47
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#212
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania ovidiusd
all swedish teams are cheating@@@now
2013-03-13 16:48
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3 replies
#218
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Italy VoHiYo
even nip
2013-03-13 16:49
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1 reply
#301
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany pa$co
most notably nip ;)
2013-03-13 17:28
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#225
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania ovidiusd
because your teams are every time no.1
2013-03-13 16:51
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#216
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden BenneDoT
2 things though... -I want to have some real proof, im not a cheat expert so i dont know what to look for in the demo etc. 2 years is enough to crash his future plans, so making sure that there is no question about it, they should make the proof public. -IF he did cheat, they should make a case for all the players in the team, i doubt that no one in his team knew.
2013-03-13 16:49
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#223
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World baconattack
the entire team was accused, and their demos was watched Bennedot, only Xelos was found guilty
2013-03-13 16:50
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2 replies
#230
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Sweden BenneDoT
Ok, thank you, if he cheated he should have his ban, still why can't they publish the information public?
2013-03-13 16:53
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#283
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Marcus1g
Stop lying. MIRAA already busted your false statements, stop protecting your players you freaking dumb epsilon-staff idiot
2013-03-13 17:17
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#220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
They cheat, thats clear but why don't they say the freaking cheat they used and more info? It just keeps like "no proof" for everyone and it's really REALLY strange. Where is jEspErWoOWowoOWO putting n1? nice team? etc in every single thread now? Hope they get kicked from Epsilon and every single tournament.
2013-03-13 16:51
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#221
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden BenneDoT
.
2013-03-13 16:51
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#222
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium esTEK
shitstorm now finally caught epsilon.. feel srry for the (ex)/players NEPsilon bende noobs xD
2013-03-13 16:50
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#227
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Leffa
Good guy HeatoN, keeping cs:go clean (we all think it, this is a part of the big plan)
2013-03-13 16:51
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#228
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Everyone who says, how did they go to lans if they cheat ? youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde.. pretty easy
2013-03-13 16:52
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36 replies
#243
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
cmon guy...noone will use that at LAN
2013-03-13 17:00
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19 replies
#261
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Denmark kaspeRztw
1 danish player did ;)got busted a week ago
2013-03-13 17:06
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18 replies
#271
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Denmark Kevzz
Who ?
2013-03-13 17:13
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5 replies
#320
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
wasnt it dareDeFyme
2013-03-13 17:43
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4 replies
#332
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Wolfztar
He was not busted for cheating on LAN. He did, however, confess to having cheated on LAN before.
2013-03-13 17:48
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3 replies
#341
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
where am I saying he got busted on lan ?
2013-03-13 17:53
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2 replies
#347
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Wolfztar
synnnn said no one will use that on LAN and you said 1 Danish player did. In the context it sounded like you meant he got busted on LAN. Guess you just meant he got busted in general.
2013-03-13 17:56
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#363
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Yeah, I ment in general. However you're right I should have expressed myself better.
2013-03-13 18:01
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#272
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
who lold i didn't see any news about that XD...i mean...you can use it but you will surely get busted and more in such an event like CPH.
2013-03-13 17:13
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11 replies
#323
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Denmark kaspeRztw
how would you bust that ? it doesnt even look like he is cheating
2013-03-13 17:43
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10 replies
#400
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
So tell me how that danish guy got caught
2013-03-13 18:17
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4 replies
#413
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Well people complained about him in the Danish gaming.dk Steelseries league. Admins look the demos through, dunno how they got to the decision but he got a chance to prove himself at HKLAN some weeks ago, but his own team kicked him 1 day before the event started. A few days later he confessed that he have been using organner.pl, and at some minor lans. He is now banned from any danish event for 2 years.
2013-03-13 18:25
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3 replies
#432
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
lol hahahaha what an idiot isn't it? xD
2013-03-13 18:44
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2 replies
#470
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Denmark kaspeRztw
what was even more fun, was that know one knew him from css or 1.6 and he was just the best = obv. hacker :D
2013-03-13 19:43
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1 reply
#495
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany synnnn
lold
2013-03-13 21:02
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#474
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium Zapper1337
you know if he is putting some heads and sometimes isn't moving his mouse there is gonna be a problem ;) His pc will be checked. Accuracy would be too high they can see that. etc...
2013-03-13 19:56
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4 replies
#506
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Denmark kaspeRztw
true :D
2013-03-13 21:52
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1 reply
#514
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium Zapper1337
yeah but you are right it is possible, still to not get caught no idea how you would do that, even on small lans every1 is behind your ass, there are admins for each game etc...
2013-03-13 22:03
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#535
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania TRS1906
Private aimbots don't bounce around the screen.
2013-03-14 01:20
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1 reply
#537
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium Zapper1337
indeed, it will look like bot reflex instant head shot without any recoil. Just to get caught xD You will see the guy aim towards him then stop moving his mouse and his cursor will move on it's own towards head...
2013-03-14 01:29
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#286
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
they cant use organner on internetcafé computers :P
2013-03-13 17:20
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13 replies
#329
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Denmark kaspeRztw
What i've been told is you can somehow save it in your hardware or something like that
2013-03-13 17:46
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12 replies
#343
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
You cant install anything on internetcafe computers without the admin password and i highly doubt that they knew it and that they play with it when people is behind them and looking :P
2013-03-13 17:53
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11 replies
#348
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
why should you be afraid of people standing behind you ? when nothing on your screen suggest that you are cheating.
2013-03-13 17:56
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10 replies
#433
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
retard....... still they cant install anything on the computer they need to be login as ADMIN and they cant login as a admin cuz they dont have the password :P
2013-03-13 18:44
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9 replies
#469
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
you're right, however I don't know how it works, so can't say if what you are saying isn't possible :D
2013-03-13 19:42
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6 replies
#477
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
it is! if they got adminpassword, maybe they are SiCkHacKeRS!!
2013-03-13 20:00
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5 replies
#565
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
dRiim | 
Finland dRiim
i got the adminpass with my team every time i went to an icafe...
2013-03-16 11:36
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4 replies
#569
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
dont work that way in sweden :P
2013-03-16 13:04
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3 replies
#570
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
dRiim | 
Finland dRiim
i've only been in stockholm ios and m@trix..
2013-03-16 14:49
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2 replies
#571
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
you are still not able to install new programs:P
2013-03-16 14:59
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1 reply
#572
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
dRiim | 
Finland dRiim
well i was just talking about the admin logins :D installing something i have no idea
2013-03-16 15:14
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#536
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania TRS1906
There's no need for it with standalone aimbots
2013-03-14 01:21
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1 reply
#547
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kigge
retard
2013-03-14 09:18
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#315
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal haas-
yup, confirms my suspicions of the possibility to cheat on LAN. this is too sad. eSports are a legal job in some countries, and this should be illegal and condemned by the law.
2013-03-13 17:38
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1 reply
#330
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark kaspeRztw
+1
2013-03-13 17:47
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#234
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania ovidiusd
Heaton is bribeing admins , then Nip win all matches, so rip cheaters, rip csgo, let's go all to play fifa!!!!
2013-03-13 16:55
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#235
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
India 3737
Why not schneider or flusha?
2013-03-13 16:55
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#241
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Korea Incendix
because they dont cheat
2013-03-13 17:10
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10 replies
#246
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India 3737
So you say this is not cheats? youtube.com/watch?v=_YH8w-VMf0M And some stuff from 1.6: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailp..
2013-03-13 17:02
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9 replies
#260
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Korea Incendix
what part of that is cheat exactly ? looks completly fine to me, the csgo clip that is, since its csgo we are talking about now.
2013-03-13 17:06
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5 replies
#267
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India 3737
Oh, come on, he just looks at places where enemy beed without any information from teammates. Or maybe his name affected on him so strongly.
2013-03-13 17:11
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#274
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Korea Incendix
without any information from his team ? hahahaha i lol'd hard, do you think they are mutes or what, jesus get a brain. this century has something called mumble, skype, vent and more, pick one.
2013-03-13 17:14
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2 replies
#280
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India 3737
Download demo and you will see where his teammates were at this time.
2013-03-13 17:17
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1 reply
#478
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Belgium Zapper1337
i checked your 1st video on cs go and it's clearly no cheat... he sees the guy window but will be his 2nd frag because a guy from the left comes in to frag him and fails afterwards you have 2nd frag he saw earlier, 3rd frag is xyp9x that he didn't see but xyp9x killed Schneider teammate so he knows he is there and 4th just positioning.
2013-03-13 20:01
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#270
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Denmark kaspeRztw
well this looks fine too youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde.. however it is cheat xD
2013-03-13 17:13
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#277
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Denmark Kevzz
That is properly the worst backup of any accusation. And how do you know he got no info - as i see it, xyp9x shot one of his teammates, and then got shot ..
2013-03-13 17:15
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#479
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Belgium Zapper1337
indeed said the same :x and the guy cuisine/kitchen he saw him 1st actually ;)
2013-03-13 20:02
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#318
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Finland xseveN=D
OMG AIMBOT :D:D:D
2013-03-13 17:40
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#310
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Germany pa$co
because they have bought premium :D
2013-03-13 17:35
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#238
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Germany pa$co
no shit?!... -.-
2013-03-13 16:56
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#240
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dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
They probably all cheat, but I would prefer to see some evidence before branding Xelos publicly as a cheater.
2013-03-13 16:57
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#242
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Slovakia kubiaxk
2013-03-13 16:59
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#245
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Sweden kigge
pls i want to se the proof :D im 100% he didnt cheat
2013-03-13 17:04
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#248
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Romania ovidiusd
when they play online matches, you don't know if they cheat, because they think that will not be cauched...so swedish teams cheat
2013-03-13 17:03
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#249
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Croatia ile=D
There is no evidence, he's not cheating :)
2013-03-13 17:02
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#251
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Taiwan SCVready
drama
2013-03-13 17:04
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#253
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Bulgaria Crying1
waiting for evidence but im sure the admins got it right.
2013-03-13 17:04
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#262
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Romania ovidiusd
swedish player... i don t expected
2013-03-13 17:07
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#264
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Sweden Kicklaren <3
i wonder if that's why they released both...
2013-03-13 17:10
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#266
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rain | 
Sweden d3f3nd3R
wouldnt surprise me but some proof would be nice!
2013-03-13 17:11
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#268
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Other skaven
2013-03-13 17:11
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WHAT UP NOW EPSILON DEFENDERS? LMFAO
2013-03-13 17:14
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5 replies
#278
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Denmark Kevzz
I wouldn't call myself an Epsilon Defender, but i would still love some proper evidence, instead of a lot of accusations and hiding evidence away.
2013-03-13 17:17
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4 replies
You don't trust ESL? I hope you know who hosts Intel Extreme Masters, Go4 Cups etc etc. So many people defending cheaters like coloN back in the days, its abnormal. Get a fucking grip seriously
2013-03-13 17:23
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#307
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World Bainshie6
Because Anti-cheat admins never get it wrong right? People are human. Also Colon didn't cheat, only morons think he did.
2013-03-13 17:32
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#312
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Denmark Wolfztar
Its also dangerous to put too must trust in organizations and blindly believe them. I take no stance on the xelos case, but its fair to be skeptic - no reason to talk down to people who have different opinions than you.
2013-03-13 17:37
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#406
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Denmark Kevzz
Let me be honest, after today not only regarding Epsilon but other stuff, i have no faith/respect or whatsoever for ESL Admins. Im well aware of IEM and Go4 Cups and what not, but i can't see why that should have any affect on them being more trustworthy regarding anything for that matter. Im not defending either, i want to see the proof, why do you have to be so offensive towards me, it's obviously you that should get a grip around here. Honestly, stop being so mad ;)
2013-03-13 18:21
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#281
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Sweden BenneDoT
OK, i think they cheated and epsilon deserved it if they did BUT LOOK HERE: en.esl.tv/video/a71f63c219e7e124/ AT 05:57 at the first kill by kirby...real strange stuff there...not taking any comclusions, but it's wierd... Other news at 14:25 you can see xelos, what might be some hard purchased cheats there...
2013-03-13 17:24
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#282
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United States Brock Lesnar
tramps
2013-03-13 17:17
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#284
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Sweden rubbe
all thoose who want proofs are either fanboys or cheaters themselves (scared of being caught aswell)
2013-03-13 17:18
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#288
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Sweden BenneDoT
no, they do right in questioning how an org. can ban a player without proof.
2013-03-13 17:21
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#289
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Denmark Kevzz
Im not a fanboy, nor a cheater myself - im simply a guy who would love to see why people get banned - hiding evidence is not the way to do it. You dont go to court either and get a 10 year sentence without seeing evidence. Please, stop yourself, and whats up with calling other people "Fanboys" like its some bad word. rubbe - Aguila fan.
2013-03-13 17:22
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#314
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Sweden rubbe
ofcourse there is proofs, else it wouldnt have happened.....
2013-03-13 17:38
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#290
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Korea Incendix
nice logic there, so you would execute a person without proof, just because you have something against him/her?
2013-03-13 17:22
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Why do you need evidence if jesperW himself doesn't complain at all (which would be deffo in the news if he would) So who the fuck cares, they're smelly cheaters and get over it already
2013-03-13 17:25
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#316
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Sweden rubbe
ofcourse there is proofs, else it wouldnt have happened.....
2013-03-13 17:39
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#578
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Finland teco
With your logic all the esl admins linked to the ban decision have something against xelos whom they didn't even know to be existing before the report. PS. Maybe you didn't knew but HAVING proofs and PUBLISHING proofs are two different things.
2013-03-24 03:37
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+1, idiots all over the place
2013-03-13 17:24
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#297
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Denmark Kevzz
You obviously need to sit down and chill for a moment.
2013-03-13 17:27
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1 reply
#539
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Belgium Zapper1337
He is always like that, that's his blessing.
2013-03-14 01:42
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#294
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Ukraine Slate
2013-03-13 17:24
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#298
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
You ever heard of 'Innocent untill proven guilty'? :/
2013-03-13 17:27
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8 replies
#317
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Sweden rubbe
ofcourse there is proofs, else it wouldnt have happened.....
2013-03-13 17:39
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4 replies
#338
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Macau kek79
share it with us .. thanks
2013-03-13 17:50
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#553
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
And those proofs are... where?
2013-03-14 14:27
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2 replies
#556
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Sweden rubbe
esl office probably. they cant ban a player on nothing and kick a team.
2013-03-14 14:45
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1 reply
#562
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
Actually they can, because noone knows besides them.
2013-03-14 23:37
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#346
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United Kingdom ashed
Xelos was proven guilty by ESL?
2013-03-13 17:55
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#384
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Croatia ile=D
Human rights do not mean anything in this world :)
2013-03-13 18:11
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#480
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Belgium Zapper1337
CHRISJ YOU ARE NEXT LOOK OUT BRO !
2013-03-13 20:14
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#334
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Sweden daverrr
With that kind of reasoning I bet you'd make an excellent religious nutjob.
2013-03-13 17:48
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#287
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Ukraine lawyered
cool story
2013-03-13 17:21
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#291
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Australia KUKLOS
So if get right or forest re alias and cheat, i bet they would get banned 2 lol
2013-03-13 17:22
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#296
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Germany Johnny RR
well, it would be surprise if you find Swedish that doesn't cheat hax.se isnt never been secret
2013-03-13 17:27
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3 replies
#303
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Sweden darion
Wow, what a fail.
2013-03-13 17:30
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#304
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France jaimez
You're making a joke about your own flag right ? :D
2013-03-13 17:30
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#357
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Slovenia n1nnx =D
HAHA says a german
2013-03-13 17:59
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#306
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World h9stile
Why are people even surprised that not every single player has been caught cheating in this tournament? I'm not saying they haven't cheated individually otherwise, but why would they risk doing that if it is more than enough to have one guy wallhacking and handing out the information? This is a team game, if one player cheats, the whole team is not clean. Funny how Xelos has been removed from the team for no apparent reason beforehand aswell (seriously, coming out of nowhere and beating teams that actively participated in the professional scene for months and then reconstructing the whole team?), conveniently enough along with another player. Smells like damage preventing for me - imagine what this news would have done if he had still been part of Epsilon's roster by the time of its release. Not only that, but now certain people are as cheeky as to abuse this bust in order to "prove" the other player's "innocence". That's pathetic really. As far as the "LAN" aspect of this is concerned; don't you find it rather odd that they waited until they won against both imG and n! before they announced they were playing @ some netcafe? Also, what do we really have from said "LAN"? A 30sec. video and some pictures. Even disregarding the fact that it is possible to cheat on LAN, that can hardly make for a LAN-proven lineup. However, the organization and I think even the (remaining) players themselves really want to come up as a legit team to be reckoned with in the top scene and I wouldn't say they don't have the chance of doing so skill- and motiviation-wise. It's just that the community has to give them the chance aswell.
2013-03-13 17:31
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#308
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Korea Incendix
he was removed for no apparent reason? so you have all the info about the internal conflicts between the team members of epsilon ? no, i didnt think so.
2013-03-13 17:34
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#313
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World h9stile
Well, maybe that's because internal conflicts aren't apparent?
2013-03-13 17:38
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1 reply
#327
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Korea Incendix
well, not all personalities fit together, probably the biggest reason in all teamchanges :P
2013-03-13 17:45
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#319
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Poland imadzin
PASZA is on the hunt now
2013-03-13 17:41
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5 CHEATERS.
2013-03-13 17:43
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#324
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United Kingdom KINK
I fell sorry for the Epsilon Female team. Everyone saying that Epsilon are cheaters, is putting them under the same spotlight.
2013-03-13 17:44
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#333
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Sweden kigge
The ESL-Admins banned him of the demo? i just checket out the demo with r_drawothermodel 2 (wh) and i dindt see anything:P esl.eu/eu/emsone/spring_2013/csgo/cup1/d.. esl.eu/eu/emsone/spring_2013/csgo/cup1/d.. there is the demo! check it with r_drawothermodel 2 and comment what you think!
2013-03-13 17:48
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#337
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France jaimez
imo this decision is very biased... ESL German admins just prefer seeing a German team 1st instead of 2nd, that's all, the demos are totally clean. "admin crew with multiple years of experience" : couldn't help laughing, sorry.
2013-03-13 17:50
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#339
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Poland Ventori
Sweden - nation of cheaters. hahaha what a shame. Without hacks they're 0
2013-03-13 17:52
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6 replies
#342
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Denmark Wolfztar
Bad troll, shoo!
2013-03-13 17:53
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#355
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Slovenia n1nnx =D
i would say that for germans xD
2013-03-13 17:58
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#359
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Italy VoHiYo
yeah we get special coded cheats that work on lan for free from the government
2013-03-13 18:00
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3 replies
#379
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Croatia ile=D
I was thinkig the same...
2013-03-13 18:09
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#408
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Denmark Kevzz
Moving to sweden!
2013-03-13 18:22
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for free from goverment??? how it works ??? magiciaNN????
2013-03-13 18:58
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#340
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Sweden badboll
From beating every team to get beaten of low teams. OFC they all are cheaters.
2013-03-13 17:53
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#344
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World RonMexicooo
All you faggots were blind as fuck. It was so fucking obvious.
2013-03-13 17:53
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1 reply
#410
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Denmark Kevzz
So you're saying Blind people are faggots, how rude are you.
2013-03-13 18:23
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#345
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
trololololo :3
2013-03-13 17:54
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#350
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Canada EgeS
Esea is the best anti-cheat on the market. If xelos is not banned on ESEA , then he is not cheating. raw talent exist. Many NA player got accused of cheating and turned out to be amazing. an exemple would be freakazoid. For a whole year , he was accused of cheating and it turns out hes a top 10 NA player on lan. This is what happens when you ban on demo. Esea bans from client only and they never do a mistake. this is why we will always have a better online community than the EURO's.
2013-03-13 17:57
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#358
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World RonMexicooo
Except youre wrong. Freakazoid did cheat that year. There was obvious bust vids...
2013-03-13 18:00
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1 reply
#488
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Korea ws0
and there were bust vids for theguy and many other great NA players doesn't mean anything. In bust vids sometimes you don't hear game noise or teammates doing the calls etc.
2013-03-13 20:49
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#380
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Sweden d9lk
I agree, especially when the admins are most likely biased germans. What a coincidence that the winning team is germany aswell right? I thought ESL was way more professional than this. Just watched the demo and can't find anything that deserves ban, expect SOME situations that are suspicious but nothing you can ban for. Shame on ESL
2013-03-13 18:09
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#399
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Australia TotalEclipse
There are cheats that can bypass ESEA you muppet.
2013-03-13 18:17
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2 replies
#499
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Canada EgeS
They don't last very long.
2013-03-13 21:34
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1 reply
#541
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Australia TotalEclipse
Are you sure? The top end cheats advertise as ESEA proof.
2013-03-14 04:58
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#538
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Romania TRS1906
I knew a guy that cheated his whole career on invite (dunno if he plays GO now).
2013-03-14 01:30
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#352
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Poland whOoOzAAA
Once a lame cheater, always a lame cheater./.
2013-03-13 17:57
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#353
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Canada EgeS
play.esea.net/users/531028?tab=stats the dude is pretty nuts. you can't cheat for more than 2 month on esea without getting banned. if anything , shame on ESL
2013-03-13 17:58
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8 replies
i had more than 100 adr in my old ESEA account, nobody needs cheats to do that lol
2013-03-13 18:03
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#367
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World RonMexicooo
how fucking blind are you, pretty nuts is 18rws not 13...
2013-03-13 18:04
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6 replies
#371
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Canada EgeS
we got some elites players in here apparently then. 100 adr with 1 fpr and 13.50 rws? also his previous months are over 14.50 that is considered nuts sorry
2013-03-13 18:05
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1 reply
#375
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Canada EgeS
play.esea.net/users/531028?tab=stats&las..[type]=months&period[date_start]=2013-01-01 thats his january month 112.2 adr , 1105 frag 667 death , 1.101 fpr with 15.74 rws that is nuts and he played 40 pugs LOL
2013-03-13 18:07
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he's prob xelos with a fake account, or a noob 70 adr 8 rws fanboy
2013-03-13 18:05
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#376
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Canada EgeS
2013-03-13 18:07
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2 replies
and you really think 13-100 rws/adr is nuts? hahahahahhahahah
2013-03-13 18:11
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1 reply
#390
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Canada EgeS
talking about him not me. play.esea.net/users/531028?tab=stats&las..[type]=months&period[date_start]=2013-01-01 view his january month & other months, post again now on the link heres a preview for you bozo. top 21 for adr top 14 for fpr top 10 for rws yea hes not nuts , your just a dumb sack of shit you can't read numbers in front of you. ps : the numbers below his adr / fpr / rws are his ranking in the overall euro stats
2013-03-13 18:14
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#360
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Canada EgeS
and before anyone says hes not good , his pug stats are in the top 2% of esea players :)
2013-03-13 18:00
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#361
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Serbia sALE
he was kinda shady in 1.6 also but still,ofcourse ze germans would get this done,their league etc.
2013-03-13 18:00
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#362
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Europe hest1
would really like to know how exactly they could prove he was cheating.. this is the same thing as when COLON got banned from all online tournaments in Denmark ( i think), for cheating, and later he destroyed the best teams in the world on LAN and shut everyones mouths. The people who banned him showed no proof either
2013-03-13 18:01
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#368
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France jaimez
EXACTLY !!!! coloN's demo looked totally hacked from a certain point of view, but actually everything was clean. The only thing is that xelos' demos are clean, and no cheat is apparent. You can't ban someone on demo, excepted if it is REALLY obvious. Btw, I lol'd at this "possess advanced anti-cheat technology" : Oh really, is that why you have to go through demo viewing ?
2013-03-13 18:04
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#377
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Denmark Wolfztar
In the case of coloN, they actually made a bust movie, however, it was so poor in quality that many saw something different, when watching the demos. He then got an ultimatum from Danish Esport League that he had to play the remaining matches from a cafe. ColoN did this and was freed of all charges.
2013-03-13 18:07
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1 reply
#494
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Belgium Zapper1337
yeah but he was still banned at the clanbase site :( still today even if he got a 1 year ban he should be unbanned soon ! clanbase.ggl.com/za/humaninfo.php?hid=31.. your damn right the demos are normal i guess his playing style is unique :o
2013-03-13 20:56
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#370
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Russia Iwanowitsch
XELOS is so low and so smart no respect to this guys, swedish players are the most unprofessional i ever seen.
2013-03-13 18:05
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2 replies
#374
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France jaimez
yEa ceh9 gHosTinG lulZ dO yA remeMbeR ?
2013-03-13 18:06
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#387
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Sweden d9lk
2013-03-13 18:11
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#378
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Brazil kitoxme
and justice for all sry, sry for insultes cheaters line-up ?
2013-03-13 18:12
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#381
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Ireland jooona
i dont understand why would people cheat, especially someone who has been to lans and performed good there :/
2013-03-13 18:09
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#382
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Malta Eneko*
and hope they will all burn .. so noobish
2013-03-13 18:10
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#386
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Denmark carr~
kick this shitty players for all tournaments ,please.
2013-03-13 18:11
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1 reply
#419
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Portugal haas-
LOL weren't you defending them before ? I remember clearly, idiot.
2013-03-13 18:30
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#388
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Norway Sirius_
LOL he is not cheating at all. Here is the demo esl.eu/eu/emsone/spring_2013/csgo/cup2/d.. They were at an internet cafe and played so he didnt use any sort of wh and he missed many shots he would have got if he had aimbot so this is just like AlphaTier v2 for those of u who know who he is.
2013-03-13 18:11
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#391
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Denmark carr~
ok, fan.
2013-03-13 18:13
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#412
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Poland headder
I think same... nothing "strange" in both demos ;/
2013-03-13 18:24
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#439
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Germany Grundsolide
"They were at an internet cafe and played so he didnt use any sort of wh..." again and again and again... WRONG! They played the second cup final on lan against NiP (funny fact: won only 3-4 rounds on 2 maps)... NOT the one against n!faculty.
2013-03-13 18:49
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#389
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Lithuania zefyrzmogis
time to change ur identity nAAbz
2013-03-13 18:12
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#392
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway M0LTEN
what a noob! Has to use cheat to be "good" at a game..
2013-03-13 18:14
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#395
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Latvia dudarsky
Knew it, noobs. Delete cs:go
2013-03-13 18:15
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#396
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania blg-
Proof?
2013-03-13 18:17
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#397
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Australia TotalEclipse
Why do ESL need to show proof to any of you morons? It's their league they can do what the fuck they want, they think the guy is cheating so they banned him.
2013-03-13 18:17
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#405
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Sweden d9lk
because they are a professional organization u twat, they should not ban people based on biased fucking germany ppl
2013-03-13 18:20
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12 replies
biased swedish guy being mad a swedish cheater got busted. gg. Hows the ESL biased? They also ban german pro gamers ... so mad...
2013-03-13 18:23
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#414
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden d9lk
i am not biased, i am saying my honest opinion. it's embarrassing how a serious organization such as ESL would ban for that demo.
2013-03-13 18:25
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#416
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Poland headder
Kirby (n!) was banned in ESL even for a far worse demo, with stats about 6-15 or something like that :D
2013-03-13 18:27
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#418
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Sweden d9lk
probably automaticly by the anti-cheat program then? :)
2013-03-13 18:29
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#421
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Poland headder
For a demo as far as I remember. However, I am 90% sure, that xelos demos are clean. PS. ESL will not give any "proof" or timings. It's their policy. The same goes for the automatic Wire bans. If you ask for a proof of cheating, you receive an anwser like: 'sorry, but we can't give you such info blablabla', that causes also you can't write a rehab essay.
2013-03-13 18:35
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3 replies
#423
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Denmark Kevzz
Just proves that the Admins have no idea whats going on?
2013-03-13 18:33
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#425
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden d9lk
okey lol. I've also watched his demos and they atleast look clean, they probably wont give out proof but xelos should be able to protest his ban (mby he is?).
2013-03-13 18:35
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#427
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Poland headder
If he is going to fight with them, he will not be able to write an essay. So he will need to wait 2 years, or he will have to "fake" (new PC, inet identity and stuff)...
2013-03-13 18:37
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#509
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India RemaKe4D
Bad demos doesn't mean he is not cheating. what you want he should run and kill everybody on that server then it should be called hacks ?? and check organner you tube channel you will find varieties of hack.
2013-03-13 21:57
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#415
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia Eddy777
why dont you download a demo? isnt that a proof?
2013-03-13 18:27
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#417
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Sweden d9lk
i hvae downloaded the demo and i can't find any cheats. call me biased or whatever but i am being honest and neutral in this situation.
2013-03-13 18:29
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#442
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Slovakia Eddy777
I only said that the demos are proof.. what else? I also saw the demos and on de_mirage I didnt find anything suspicious.On de_train ,there were some weird actions now and then ,but if I was the one in charge and had to take responsibility for that I wouldnt ban him ...
2013-03-13 18:53
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#436
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Sweden daverrr
They're free do to as they wish, of course. But it's not like it would hurt to be somewhat transparent in a matter like this. You never hear people complain about someone providing too much evidence, do you? As is evident by this thread. Being vague just makes people question the ruling and/or crying foul. Which is of no benefit to anyone.
2013-03-13 18:46
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#543
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Australia TotalEclipse
"You never hear people complain about someone providing too much evidence, do you?" In real life, no. But over the Internet it's completely different, no matter what evidence ESL would reveal people would still complain. One of the main reasons they don't give out evidence is so the cheater has no idea how he was caught. If they told him they banned him for ESP for example, he'd take note to either not use ESP or be more careful in the future. Which in turn would make it harder to catch him in the future if he cheated again. It would also 'alert' other cheaters using the same feature.
2013-03-14 05:06
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#551
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Sweden daverrr
Him knowing or not knowing how he was caught makes little to no difference. It's completely absurd to think just getting caught isn't enough to force a change of behaviour and/or software. If he is indeed cheating I'm sure he's going to have a pretty good idea where things went south. I fail to see how banning someone for wallhacking and producing evidence to support your claim is going benefit other cheaters out there.
2013-03-14 14:09
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#422
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India RemaKe4D
Here comes the news we were waiting :)
2013-03-13 18:31
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1 reply
#424
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Poland headder
Together with new, shiny NIP DM ;p
2013-03-13 18:33
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#426
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Denmark nsis
Justice. What an imbecile.
2013-03-13 18:36
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#429
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Netherlands lex0rRrR
Even with cheats, he sucks
2013-03-13 18:41
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#434
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Belgium Foerester
Unexpected
2013-03-13 18:45
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#438
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Poland Drimacus
Checked demos few times wanted to see badly what's wrong with this guy. Only dumb or drunk idiot judge and can say xelos cheated. It's not first time ESL admins make fail decision.
2013-03-13 18:47
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#443
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
SpawN | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina nessaja
next news : Epsilon pick up manne.
2013-03-13 18:55
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#444
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland pharlig
haha i knew after a few matches with him in ESEA that shitelos is cheating
2013-03-13 18:56
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#446
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Netherlands 10y_ban_bye
good for them, i rlly hate these guys
2013-03-13 18:58
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#448
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NOtA | 
Poland ChoseN1`
BADUM *tssss*
2013-03-13 18:59
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#449
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Russia Naja.
anti-cheat log's detect
2013-03-13 18:59
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#452
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ash | 
World ashhh
absolute spastics every one of them
2013-03-13 19:05
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#455
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World ssess
meh..I wanted some proof..all I see is ESL protecting another german team
2013-03-13 19:07
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#456
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Netherlands g@M
good news for lll welcome back :D
2013-03-13 19:08
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#457
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World Kobs
ban them all..lit s unlikely the others tards didn t know he was cheating.. if they were not cheating themself too..
2013-03-13 19:13
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#458
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Kobs
top 100 players that never played a lan and beat nip , that was best joke
2013-03-13 19:15
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#459
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Kobs
Xenos got kicked, now he can say these are all cheating ..come on dont be shy
2013-03-13 19:16
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#461
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truth | 
Norway tomzeyRrRRrR
SHOCKED XDDDDDDD no.
2013-03-13 19:30
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#475
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Germany gilI3
n!tards never play well against them they`ll Report !
2013-03-13 19:59
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2 replies
#482
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Sweden zende
+1
2013-03-13 20:39
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#546
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden robiinxd
haha soooooo true, played a random uyR cup vs. 3 of them.. smashed them so hard they started crying to the cup admin and we got kicked :D
2013-03-14 08:37
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#476
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Norway simpleks
2 targets remaining. jw and lox
2013-03-13 19:59
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#484
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Denmark ebola  
Just fucking ban all those retards please.
2013-03-13 20:44
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#489
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Korea ws0
jw and schneider next and I'm gonna be happy.
2013-03-13 20:51
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#490
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World Agent420
this is why all the leagues are utter bullshit. do you think xelos is the only retarded cheater out there? fuck no! there are THOUSANDS of these motherfuckers and they are still playing, still undetected and THEY WILL NEVER GET CAUGHT. as long as its possible to cheat online noone should take ANY online match serious.
2013-03-13 20:52
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#497
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Belgium Zapper1337
I remember some french guy who did a site (about 100 players) where you need to record yourself with a webcam in the back while playing. If they v got suspicion of someone they are gonna ask his webcam record, of course not every1 has a webcam but still it was a good idea to fight cheaters xD
2013-03-13 21:13
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#507
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
Less 420 for you dude, you are paranoid as fuck.
2013-03-13 21:54
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#491
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Ukraine gungrave
so where proof?
2013-03-13 20:54
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#492
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France sweetsixteen
Title should be; Xelos busted for cheating - Epsilon disqualified
2013-03-13 20:55
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#498
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Sweden badboll
We all know´s that the rest of the team is cheating.
2013-03-13 21:16
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2 replies
#518
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Korea Incendix
we do? pretty bold to speak for everyone, thinking that they all think like you, which they dont.
2013-03-13 22:12
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#520
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Italy VoHiYo
I know you've been cheating in all games you've ever played, even IRL. That's how stupid you sound.
2013-03-13 22:40
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#493
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World SAINTFATHER
Since most of hltv.org users are unskilled retards I'm not gonna argue,i will just leave some facts: 1.Germans were always whiners,ALWAYS 2.coloN was clear like the ass of the god himself Anyways,you,dogs, got your bone you don't need proofs
2013-03-13 20:55
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#515
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Portugal foxjoverall
hi xelos
2013-03-13 22:05
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#496
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Sweden twice666
This is crazy, xelos have never cheated in GO-.-
2013-03-13 21:12
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Brake their fingers. Then they will not cheat again.
2013-03-13 21:43
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#503
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Lithuania zefyrzmogis
chop their fing0rs off Medieval Times styleh
2013-03-13 21:45
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#505
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Argentina ROCIO
He didn't cheated, I'm 100% sure in that. He performed extremely well in last matches (also in 1.6) and there is no "real" proof in match against n!faculty. Also, back in days ESL has banned Andrue, CosMo, Snax & a lot of rising players...
2013-03-13 21:49
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#528
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Germany VxO4
Snax was a fail bust. Didnt they admitted it?
2013-03-13 23:46
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2 replies
#531
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Argentina ROCIO
As I know, not.
2013-03-14 00:02
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1 reply
#532
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Germany VxO4
His ban is not there anymore.
2013-03-14 00:06
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#574
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Italy pauLo~
a lot of rising players? cosmo has always been a good player from start , same for andrue.
2013-03-17 04:20
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#575
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Argentina ROCIO
Andrue didn't achieved so much on international scene.
2013-03-17 12:54
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#519
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DiMKE | 
Serbia UNTOUCHED4jj
cheaterS 'flush -A- *BENQ
2013-03-13 22:13
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#521
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania nawxin
flusha another cheater ofc :)
2013-03-13 22:47
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play.esea.net/users/531028?tab=stats&las..[type]=seasons&period[season_start]=167&period[season_type]=regular+season&period[match_round]= Paradox was banned by CAL for "cheating" and went on to win numerous LAN tournaments/play for the SF OPTX in CGS. I'll trust the ESEA anti-cheat client over ESL's hearsay. It's silly how everyone is guilty until proven innocent in this community.
2013-03-13 23:14
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#544
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United Kingdom Alth
Playing well on LAN does not mean you are exempt of cheating. Get_Right could buy organner tomorrow and cheat in online games. He would still be insane on LAN, but it isn't just complete shitters who use cheats to gain an advantage.
2013-03-14 05:09
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4 replies
" I'll trust the ESEA anti-cheat client over ESL's hearsay."
2013-03-14 05:57
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3 replies
#554
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Australia TotalEclipse
So you trust an anti-cheat, that like any other anti-cheat is by-passable, over what I would like to assume are experienced anti-cheat panellists.
2013-03-14 14:29
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2 replies
Anti-cheat clients are objective, we as humans are subjective.
2013-03-14 14:46
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#558
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Australia TotalEclipse
Very true however people can still cheat under ESEA.
2013-03-14 17:14
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#527
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Germany TONI`
clean imho, the boostmovie shows nothing suspicious: youtube.com/watch?v=2opcjPuqbUE#t=10s
2013-03-13 23:34
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#567
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ash | 
World ashhh
123qwerty 3 months ago maybe he is&#65279; just good? Reply · 4
2013-03-16 12:27
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#529
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Germany TONI`
to be honest I highly doubt that xelos cheated and additionally the ESL has made a lot of fail-decisions in the past in regard to cheating issues.
2013-03-13 23:52
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1 reply
#557
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Lithuania zefyrzmogis
Well you do understand that hax0r is not gonna do suspicious stuff to avoid being caught
2013-03-14 15:30
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#530
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Spain mdK!
epic fail.. csgo is full of cheaters
2013-03-14 00:01
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1 reply
compared to 1.6 is nothing, not to mention that is more easy to find them in this game.
2013-03-14 10:48
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#540
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Indonesia yoztpetra
was hoping for some evidence. what..
2013-03-14 04:20
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#550
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Spain JgS^G
gj ESL :)
2013-03-14 11:21
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#566
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Italy pauLo~
you butthurt fans need to understand that ESL banned them after having multiple admins spectate the demo , and stop requesting proof like retards , go on the page and download the demo and spectate it yourselves.
2013-03-16 11:54
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#568
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ash | 
World ashhh
players in the team are known previous cheaters never go lan and play the worlds most ridiclous counter strike online smash esc 16-0 and smash nip with nothing but aim. still wont lan player gets banned for cheating by ESL and people say not guilty ggIQ
2013-03-16 12:30
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#577
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Zana | 
Portugal sennsei
nip game was pretty close
2013-03-21 05:08
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#580
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Sweden f0rest'
Well, from my opinion xelos have been 10x better online than in LAN games.. That should tell already something to people
2013-04-02 17:25
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#581
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Poland whOoOzAAA
never forget, epsilon harboring cheaters..,. and now fnatic.. shame, flusha is so fucking suspect, can't wait for that asshat to get busted.
2014-10-09 19:35
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#582
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France CrimsonKing
Vacation inc
2014-11-30 23:13
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#583
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France CrimsonKing
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