MaxFloPlay react to Hyper ban

MaxFloPlay captain Piotr "peet" Ćwikliński has issued a statement to respond to the ESL's ban of team-mate Bartosz "Hyper" Wolny.

The Polish community was on Friday stunned with the news that Wolny, one of the country's finest CS:GO talents, had been given a two-year ban from all ESL competitions after being caught cheating in a 2on2 ladder.

This means that Wolny will sit out of the remaining three RaidCall EMS One seasons that are planned for this year and all the potential EPS seasons that will take place until 2015.

Ćwikliński has now come out in defense of his team-mate and justified every action that Multiple Scoregasms included in the protest against Wolny's BUKLAKI.

"Hello, as you all know my teammate Bartosz 'Hyper' Wolny was accused of using 'ESP/WH and AIMBOT' based on the 2v2 ESL European ladder game and banned for two years." Ćwikliński told HLTV.org.

"Due to the fact I find it very inappropriate and unfair that the ESL has given ZERO evidence or any kind of explanation for that, I am here at the very end of Friday's evening, which I was about to spend with my girlfriend watching some movies, relaxing or whatever.

"But no, I have spent it watching Hyper’s demo all night long trying to understand based on the protest. Since the arguments like: 'He has been my team-mate for many years', 'he is a very good friend of mine' speak for themselves and it is obvious I was going to defend him, I wanted to be 100% sure I was not making a fool of myself by publishing that anti timetable.

"I spent three hours watching the demo, which is 27 min long, mostly in 2,4% speed, and I found literally nothing. I find more suspicious actions by watching any demo recorded by me in which I played terribly.

"It is worth noting that the player ‘deSo’ (http://www.esl.eu/eu/csgo/2on2/ladder/player/4592529/) from the team Multiple Scoregasms was banned for cheating two weeks ago. Their account has been deleted by an admin. A very convincing timetable made by a very convincing and reliable players, indeed.

"Moreover the timetable was posted by 'Vinci' who was an ESL Admin for more than three years. In the protest Hyper asked if he could get any additional information apart the fact that he was guilty of cheating, to which the admin replied:

"Hello Multiple Scoregasms,
hello BUKLAKI,

the ticks are given above in comment #1. Ticket closed and match deleted.

Best regards,
dNN, ESL Admin"

"Regarding ESL | Marcel's comment on the news about Hyper's ban: Why are you even commenting on this news if you are not involved in this situation at all? Apparently, this is that 1% in which you ban someone based on a demo so your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

"Hyper was not ESL Wire. Regarding the admins' statement, he was banned based on ‘Vincis’ timetable only. And. by the way, feel free to put four penalty points on my ESL account for revealing the protest content. Here is my profile: http://www.esl.eu/pl/player/1339903/.

This is Vincis' timetable: (You can download the demo here:)

26000 – prefire
34400 - aimbot, please watch the mini movement up to the head, it lasts 8 ticks which is a movement of not even 60 ms
49000 - should be flashed there, and should run back, but he knows we're far away and pushes forward instead
56000 - Aiming somewhere when he starts shooting, still headshot
63000 - The first shot is clearly NOT in the head, but headshot
64000 - Please watch his aiming with full recoil on the headshot... never..
68000 - Reacting way to fast on the jump there, aimbot with jumping target on :)
69400 - Thats an aimer locking on, you can see it in the increased aiming speed
72000 - Pure knowledge, he did not even check the rest and we could not be heard by anyone there.. Please note it's the first time he makes this kind of movement. Please also see how he looks as if he wants to wait for any sounds, but sees that we otherwise would be out of sight, and steps in early
88000 - Again, perfect movement from him
108000 - ESP fail, though he saw me there, but did not.. please see he really steps back and AIMS onto the model through wall
119000 - ESP fail, look how he follows through wall.. I think he thought the player jumped down
145000 – ESP
145000 – Aimbot
153000 – Knowledge
184000 - only checks A spot barely, knows all the time where I am.. even though my mate already died there
200000 - Again, perfect movement from the 2, they go along A instead of taking balcony, because the player on B is not looking there
209000 - Knows I'm there and therefore jumps around so I cannot hit him properly... have you ever seen someone come around like this? He does not do that if there is no opponent... so funny

This is my anti timetable:

26000
- Where do you exactly see that 'prefire'? The only thing I can see is the mediocre reaction after a terrorist move out of the box. After he was about to show up second time 'Hyper' prefired because he knew that he had no chance winning the 1v1 fight with only 11 hp and just a deagle against the pre-aimed mp7 player who knew exactly where Hyper was.
34000 - To be honest I can't even understand what 'Vinci' meant by 'mini movement up to the head that lasted 8 ticks'. When you put the 34000 tick and you just wait till the 34200 you can hear the movement of enemy terrorist that is about to cross the middle in the direction of 'B' bombsite. Thats where 'Hyper' pre-aimed at the predicted spot which was more than obvious.
49000 - 'should be flashed there, and should run back, but he knows we're far away and pushes forward instead' excuse me what? Another tick that I cannot reply to in any logic way. Hyper was flashed, he waited till the flash goes off and then he basically moved in the direction of B bombsite because he basically predicted afterwards he just followed them and sprayed their back with the m4a1.
63000 - Please. If you are a profesional, semi-professional or even a wannabe professional player you are using a headset. If you are, then you would clearly hear two guys rushing tunnels for the A bombsite. What are the options for CT player covering tunnel? He could hear terrostists heading to the direction of the B bombsite...
56000 - 'Hyper' heard terrorists crossing tunnels and wait until the T player shows up or basically spray down the tunnel when he hears that T is really really close. And basically thats what 'Hyper' did.
68000 - Where do you exactly see anything suspicious about that situation? Hyper can't kill, can't even hit a terrorist in the back... After like 3 spraydowns he finally managed to hit the opponent.
72000 - I cannot comment this at all. I do not understandand what is wrong here.
88000 - What kind of perfect movement is 'Vinci' talking about? 'Hyper' was just checking the tunnel for the possible push or movement from the terrorists. As you can see 'Hyper' with hes teammate 'marcineq' assumed that terrorists will be coming from the left side of the map. When they realized nothing is happening, 'Hyper' decided to check whether there is any movement down the tunnel.  He saw 2 terrorist that weren't focused on him and he basically killed them in the back.
108000 - 'ESP fail, though he saw me there, but did not.. please see he really steps back and AIMS onto the model through wall' - at the 108900 tick you can exactly see that 'Hyper' saw the opponent there. Afterwards he aimed and shoot him. Again I don’t really know how to reply to this.
119000 - 'Hyper' heard that the opponent is up there. He pre'aimed for the, I would call it 'new dust1 entrance' and after a few moments he was suprised by the terrorist coming from the down tunnel and then the second he saw him he aimed at him and sprayed him down.
145000 - 'Hyper' and 'marcineq' were left in a 2v1 situation because 'Hyper' killed a counter terrorist pushing the A bombsite. Before that 'marcineq' was shooting other counter terrorist at the 'balcony' he informed him he is somewhere around there. After 'Hyper' went middle he saw a CT there and he basically killed him with a what I have to admit was a lucky shot.
153000 - Please tell me where was 'Hyper' about to check for the counter terrorist position? He didn't event prefire him at the stairs, its the CT who did the first shot and even hit 'Hyper'. He reacted with the spraydown with p90 and he killed the pistoled CT.
184000 - 'Hyper' has checked the most obvious camping spot on the map.
200000 - At 21200 you can hear the footsteps. 'Hyper' predicted that the CT will not go balcony and he had just waited for him.
209000 - Ok like...whatever. 'Hyper' enjoys jumping because...he does. He does that a lot and he finds it enjoyable. Just, bacause...

"I haven’t even asked Hyper for any kind of statement about his innocence. This demo speaks for itself.

"You can find a screenshot of my conversation with Vinci here."

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Interesting
2013-03-23 17:26
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#148
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esl admins have obviously never hacked in their lives rofl kids dont know jack shit about cheats bra
2013-03-24 16:50
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I forgot to post the demo link: esl.eu/eu/csgo/2on2/ladder/download/2645..
2013-03-23 17:26
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I watched it too last night and there is absolutely nothing that could be cheated. Sadly the admins have no clue just like always. I'm sure that hundreds of players got busted by the anti-cheat team already that didn't cheat.
2013-03-23 17:33
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#39
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Poland Marvolo
u dont have a gf FAKER
2013-03-23 17:49
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#150
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what
2013-03-24 17:13
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welcome to the club ;)
2013-03-23 17:27
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lold...
2013-03-23 17:27
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hahah
2013-03-23 17:29
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ROFL
2013-03-23 17:31
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hahahahahahaha
2013-03-23 17:36
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ahah ;d
2013-03-23 17:37
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:(
2013-03-23 17:38
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Korea Kenjsi
hahaha
2013-03-23 17:39
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Sweden Mattyy
hahaha xD
2013-03-23 17:41
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Slovakia Strenki
haha :D
2013-03-23 17:47
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#49
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United Kingdom dez1re
lol except your ban was deserved cos you did cheat.
2013-03-23 17:59
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#55
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Sweden Mattyy
how would you know if he did or didnt? i wtached xelos demos and i know hes clean so please gtfo!
2013-03-23 18:12
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#105
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United Kingdom knobhead
sorry but it was clear on rizc stream where he TRACES someone through a wall, fact is xelos has defo cheated at one point.
2013-03-23 22:10
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#108
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Sweden Mattyy
Thats still not what he was banned for, tard. Also the demo from the nfaculty game was clean, which he was banned for. Also they found nothing on the demo from mirage . Summs up to: Not guilty.
2013-03-23 22:55
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#141
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United Kingdom knobhead
he cheats shut up. you don't get accused for the same thing over and over like oj
2013-03-24 15:10
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agree man.. I was watching that stream and that was some strange shit
2013-03-24 00:02
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#114
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Are you serious? Do you mean when Xelos jumps into kitchen and supposedly spots somebody through the wall, that is running towards connector? He didn't even aim at him directly and that movement couldve been caused by a lot of things.
2013-03-24 00:59
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#115
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?????? "Hi! We know rizc is streaming this match, and we also know that he usually has x-ray enabled, so lets go ahead and trace the enemy through the wall just for lulz"
2013-03-24 01:09
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#124
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
And who are you to tell if someone cheated or not? Some ESL admin's gay boyfriend?
2013-03-24 05:15
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hahah n1
2013-03-23 19:04
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Romania nawxin
=)))
2013-03-23 20:16
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#100
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Poland joeb
nice try hahah :D
2013-03-23 20:39
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#120
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Argentina mariannn
if you use cheats, so their path. If not will have opportunities in other tournaments.. so
2013-03-24 01:20
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die
2013-03-24 01:26
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"209000 - Ok like...whatever. 'Hyper' enjoys jumping because...he does. He does that a lot and he finds it enjoyable. Just, bacause... J" Haha
2013-03-23 17:28
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It doesn't matter what you write in a timetable. You can write stuff from a newspaper, from the bible or whatever you would like with a random tick in there. They don't read through the timetable anyways. Wondering how they can even work on an anti-timetable then because you don't even know if it's against the stuff the admins saw. Esl, just like always, being stupid. And as you can see you don't even have to write timetables proper. Just words and whatnot. I've seen plenty of timetables translated by google translator which didn't even make any sense. As I said above, they don't read it.
2013-03-23 17:30
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bans bans everywhere
2013-03-23 17:31
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ESL is ruining Counter Strike. I'm really starting to hate them.
2013-03-23 17:31
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#66
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Cheaters are ruining Counter Strike. The leagues are trying to rescue/fix it. Otherwise no one would play competitive matches online.
2013-03-23 18:29
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#92
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yes, cheating in 2on2 ladder while being pro gamer in 2nd best team in the country makes sense, same as esl admins.
2013-03-23 19:37
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#131
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Spain Chals
So? Cheaters must be banned not esl fault its hyp3r fault so go cry him .
2013-03-24 10:31
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#125
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
Fixing it by giving unjustified bans is not the correct way tbh.
2013-03-24 05:17
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#140
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you're right. this is not the correct/best way. but it's their league. their league, their rules. Until it's possible to use ac-tools, which detect every unfair modification, we have to life with it. or avoid the league
2013-03-24 15:10
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Poland micronn
ESL Anti-Cheat Admins - "I don't believe that they are experts." btw. hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=338372#r398..
2013-03-23 17:36
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Belgium Nouti
I can't imagine hyper cheating, I am 99 procent sure of his innocence...
2013-03-23 17:37
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Russia Stickyf
boycott ESL
2013-03-23 17:37
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Might be the worst timetable ever, I remember making one much more detailed and it got rejected.. guess he got special treatment being an ex admin
2013-03-23 17:37
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They don't read the timetables.
2013-03-23 17:38
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I'm sorry but as an ex ESL admin i can tell you that they do...
2013-03-23 17:47
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I've heard different stories from other ex-admins though. Also I doubt they do because they wouldn't make so stupid decisions. Timetables like this shouldn't even get accepted. To write a timetable like this would take me 5~ minutes. You have to put in there only THREE ticks which is ridiculous. So they basically say that if you have 3 moments in a match which are suspicious they ban people for that. Nice joke.
2013-03-23 17:53
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I've to admit this timetable should've been rejected but that doesn't mean all admins doesn't read them, does it?
2013-03-23 17:54
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Indeed, since the admins can basically do what they want and roll dices. The ex-admins I spoke to said tho that they got told to not read the timetable and watch the demo.
2013-03-23 17:56
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#56
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Sweden Blomkungen
You can listen to davjie. He was a good ESL admin when I was in contact with him.
2013-03-23 18:14
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Why would I? One admin is not every admin and I don't know know why you refer to your contact with him.
2013-03-23 18:18
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My point was that davjie is a trustworthy person and you should listen to him more instead of arguing against him since he is the one with admin experience and you are not from what I could gather from the above conversation. The reason why I mentioned my previous contact with him was for you to understand that I have dealt with him when he was in the admin position several times and that he knows how it works. Shame the admins on ESL seems to be dribbling in CSGO, should get a proper admin team in if they keep this up.
2013-03-23 18:52
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Well, you're right somehow. Tho I've experienced admins myself too. They handed out 12pps to a mate of mine and their decision was more than stupid. Not to mention all the bans during the last days. By the way, have a look at this site. bustmore.de/ On the right you can see how many players actually get banned by the admin team. Daily players get banned by them.
2013-03-23 20:01
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#116
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I've even heard stories about admins just handing out 12pps because they didn't like the players. Also, ESL is never willing to rethink their decision on banning people. They refused to watch my demos, for instance, after an admin banned me after playing vs him. Their admin team should be renewed and improved.
2013-03-24 01:09
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Belgium nGLL
funny thing about that link is that cs:go bans are always because of the AC team. So I'm pretty sure their WIRE shit does NOT work properly for cs:go. Same about ESEA anti cheat btw
2013-03-24 11:26
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#156
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Italy davjie
Would'of loved to be of help with csgo but i got ignored bcoz i come from a cod background...
2013-03-25 19:08
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"guilty until proven innocent" :(
2013-03-23 17:43
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#117
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No. Guilty until proven innocent and when proven innocent, still guilty. According to ESL that is.
2013-03-24 01:10
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Turkey catmandoo
Hyper sucks
2013-03-23 17:43
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#32
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United States joebagz
What kind of league reviews demos individually with a half-million dollar anti cheat... Seriously ESL, if you can't even trust your AC (nice investment btw) at least hire some competent admins who know what they're doing. Banning someone due to "evidence" provided by an opponents (clearly biased) play by play of the match is pathetic. ESL you should be ashamed.
2013-03-23 17:46
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that new about wire costing that much was obviously fake
2013-03-23 19:00
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ESL r jokes
2013-03-23 17:47
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#139
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Denmark Exscape
:DD
2013-03-24 13:39
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Sad
2013-03-23 17:48
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#38
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World MUITYY
game will never get big when it's impossible to play online, fucking leagues throwing shit around. sweetbabyjesus
2013-03-23 17:48
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Sweden zende
ESL are sooooooo bad
2013-03-23 17:49
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#41
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World cstar123
hes a cheat, case closed.
2013-03-23 17:52
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#42
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Poland Roxinz
i think esl admin is more competent then maxfloplay organisation lol ;x
2013-03-23 17:53
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#45
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France marrrk
wow... the call was based on one of the players he played against? If true that's fucked up..
2013-03-23 17:54
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Bulgaria Pikasso
german admins sux!
2013-03-23 17:56
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#48
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Estonia allumon
This one guy from ESL watched demo, made some timetable and Hyper got banned? It looks something like "oh seems like he is cheating, let's ban him" thingie and that sucks. Starting to lose trust towards ESL, because of the bans without any proof(in this there is only that timetable, where he might or might not be cheating) E// What, Vinci isn't even ESL admin? What is going on? - he was, but he was also enemy in the game hyper got banned for
2013-03-23 18:05
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Something like this, yeah. It takes like 5 minutes to write such a timetable. You could do that every time you loose.
2013-03-23 18:02
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Poland yogurt WCYD?
he prolly pulled some wires and had a friend ban hyper
2013-03-23 18:37
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#157
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Indonesia yoztpetra
I can make timetable for ScreaM and he'd be banned in every tourney ESL run
2013-03-26 09:34
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#52
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Poland smiii
small tip for the future: do not rape germans/let them win, otherwise esl will ban you..
2013-03-23 18:05
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Germany VxO4
haha :D
2013-03-23 18:24
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Tunisia edgg
true, all the bans were given to those who played against germans, lol
2013-03-23 22:06
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#111
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Germany pa$co
hltv.org doesn't write news about every players who got banned
2013-03-23 23:07
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#53
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Denmark Kevzz
Ooooh, ESL Again haha - This is just getting better and better.
2013-03-23 18:06
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#57
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion
banning day and hyper seems like... noob bans. I can not make a 100% judgement, but I was VAC banned once without actually having any sort of hack installed, not even sure what that was based on. it got fixed after I sent them a furious e-mail, but Im starting to suspect ESL admins more and more of being as bad as valves anti cheat tool/admins were in the past. Did they even play on a proper level themselves?
2013-03-23 18:17
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#118
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No, I've played a few of them and they're at the bottom of the skill chart. - and ban people when they wallbang them, even though their shadow showed through the wall. (Yes, I'm still angry with them)
2013-03-24 01:12
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#136
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion
Lollerbad :x
2013-03-24 11:55
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#60
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Belgium Freekje
The source scene thought some of the maxfloplayers cheated in the cb nationcup couple years back, so not really a surprise.
2013-03-23 18:20
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#61
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Europe 0only1
I ve managed to unban player from a 2 years esl ban, if you need tips pm me. Gl GROF.Freekje is noob
2013-03-23 18:24
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#67
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Belgium Freekje
Sweet that people in Greece still remember me after 5 years
2013-03-23 18:30
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Good old times. I was ordered to make sure you get comfortable in the Greek scene back then.
2013-03-23 18:37
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#62
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Germany VxO4
Not sure if that was an smart move to publish the timetables
2013-03-23 18:22
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#88
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Other Meg4troN
I kinda agree.
2013-03-23 19:26
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Europe Naitee
seems legit
2013-03-23 18:28
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Europe 0only1
Actually, before a few years, if i am not mistaken early 2011 or late 2010 esl managed to bust the organner products. But until then it was basically an Online party time for any1 willing to pay 30$.
2013-03-23 18:29
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#69
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Netherlands JUAREZtw
DEUTSCHLAND FICK JAAA
2013-03-23 18:33
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#73
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ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO
Hey, another ban and another bunch of retards abusing ESL over it. Cheat and GONE son. You Hack, You Lose. tl;dr cheaters = banned = stop complaining = ESL TOO GOOD FOR YOU.
2013-03-23 18:53
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#126
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
Ignorance is a bliss.
2013-03-24 05:22
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#145
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Denmark Kevzz
Go play with kangaroos!
2013-03-24 16:26
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#74
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World |) peet
'A very convincing timetable made by a very convincing and reliable players, indeed.' I shouldn't have written that. I don't know if deSo was banned for cheating or that was just another ridiculous decision by ESL AC team. Sorry for that.
2013-03-23 18:54
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#77
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Poland lolcate
immo hyper is clear, i played against/with him few times and he played 'cleanly' ;_;
2013-03-23 18:57
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#78
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Slovakia kubiaxk
ESL is big JOKE, Hyper is clear 4 shore :(
2013-03-23 18:58
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#82
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Germany synnnn
Told ya, he didn't cheat. This ban is ridicolous and came by a banned guy and an ex-admin. Enough said. Demo proofs ANYTHING and its completely LEGIT. ESL please stop trying to tell us you are catching people with cheats because YOU ARE NOT DOING IT. Your anticheat is SHIT and organner bypasses it in every single way.You are only banning people due to RIDICOLOUS timetables which are ALWAYS made by germans (n! vs xelos and this one moreover cases). Of course comes the same case to DaY. With this im not trying to defend or say HE DOESN'T CHEAT just saying that demo proof ANYTHING and they even caught him with WIRE so...where is the point of this? It's ridicolous. He shouldn't be banned then.
2013-03-23 19:08
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#84
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Slovakia kubiaxk
Can he get unban ? Is this possible ?
2013-03-23 19:09
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#86
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Germany synnnn
Yes he can. apEX from LDLC was banned old days due to one shoot that they said he was AIMBOTTING when he was not that topplayer (came by shitty people with german contacts opening TT). After going LAN and going huge apart from a RegnaM vid explaining it (nothing special really) they just unbanned him.Ex6 and NiaK also defended him as many others (friberg said he cheated).This is just one case of many. It comes always from ridicolous TIMETABLES, the anticheat is FREAKING SHIT and BYPASSED by everyone that wants to buy a private cheat. Simple. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde..
2013-03-23 19:16
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#85
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Netherlands jen5on
This shit is turning into an medieval witchhunt.. A few frustrated guys making accusation of some (less known) players cheating without having proof at all. Next thing to happen, is a whole bunch of lowbrained 14yr olds copying their opinion. And in the end ESL admins investigating demo's and search for reasons to ban the players without decent proof. The last two weeks I've seen 3 cases of "cheaters getting caught", WITHOUT A SINGLE PIECE OF HARD EVIDENCE!
2013-03-23 19:12
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#89
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World |) peet
2013-03-23 19:28
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As you can see, they wrote it just because they were mad. It took them probably not more than 10 minutes. That's the biggest problem. It's way to easy to write a timetable.
2013-03-23 20:02
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#90
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Norway banankaster
lets ban ppl that plays good so our friends can win over noobs.
2013-03-23 19:32
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#91
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Poland toostronk
Can't imagine hyper cheating, he showed us his skill in LANs...ESL is in so fucking wrong...
2013-03-23 19:32
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#93
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Germany TuGuX
AC-Admins are reading the timetables. But ffs, that is the worst timetable I have ever seen, regardless what HYPER did ingame :D This is really poor ..
2013-03-23 19:49
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#94
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United Kingdom TheBoo
watched the demo, busted...
2013-03-23 19:57
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#109
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Poland |) NGO
srsly man?
2013-03-23 23:01
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#127
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Bulgaria fRaGm3n7
Wrote a reply to you, lost 3 seconds...
2013-03-24 05:24
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#98
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Poland m4j$ter
Playing demo from 2on22cheaters.dem. Netchannel: failed reading message 16 from unknown. Disconnect: Buffer overflow in net message.
2013-03-23 20:27
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#99
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Greenland peter-
true.
2013-03-23 20:28
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All Admins Are Bastards! AAAB
2013-03-23 20:42
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#102
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Canada hyu
esl going ham banning people because their client fails to catch cheaters just like CAL days
2013-03-23 20:48
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#103
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France Spip
Stop play in ESL, they are completly retarded
2013-03-23 21:24
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#106
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Slovakia crushyou
esl going mad bro
2013-03-23 22:40
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#107
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Poland seeez
xelos,DaY, two germans and now Hyper gj ESL, ban f0rest for having aimbot in hands
2013-03-23 22:43
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#112
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Germany pa$co
but DaY was banned in 4PL not in ESL ;)
2013-03-23 23:14
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#132
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Spain Chals
Cheaters gonna cheat
2013-03-24 10:36
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He's absolutely clear. I watched the demo and it's surely nothing wrong with. Threfore he should get un-ban.
2013-03-23 23:05
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#119
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Denmark ebola  
This is getting retarded.
2013-03-24 01:11
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#122
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Russia Saint1
after watching both hypers and day's demos neither one should of been banned imo seems like admins are cracking down to show that "yes our anticheat works" even though it doesnt
2013-03-24 01:54
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#123
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Philippines j4miR
"63000 - The first shot is clearly NOT in the head, but headshot" This ADMIN is NOOB or what? WHen you spray, you taking your crosshair down because of the recoil and even your aim at the enemy's feet, you can still make a headshot because of the gun recoil. PLUS, when you aim at head, can't perfectly hit the enemy's head when you're NOT 100% on stop. I mean when you step to your right then shoot a enemy, the accuracy is not 100% because of the extra movement when you move. BUT NOT, when you press the opposite key like when you move to right(press D) and then move a bit to left(press A) so that you can stop perfectly and have a more accurate shot.
2013-03-24 02:58
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#128
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Finland dRiim
maybe they should hire guys with brains to their demo checking team :D good for business
2013-03-24 09:15
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#135
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Poland headder
Haha, made my day :D
2013-03-24 11:46
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#129
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France LnX[A]
"The first shot is clearly NOT in the head, but headshot" LMAO
2013-03-24 09:29
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#130
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Poland kabosu
This admin probably thinks that where your crosshair goes that bullets will go. LOL@that bitch.
2013-03-24 09:44
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#134
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RE1EASE | 
Russia d3f /A/
i thought that we are not in school anymore Friday's evening, which I was about to spend with my girlfriend watching some movies, relaxing or whatever, But no, I have spent it watching Hyper’s demo all night long Hyper can't deal with his problems on his own? seems retarded
2013-03-24 11:29
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#138
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Slovakia kubiaxk
Maybe his English is not on same level as peet , so he can defend him better , and sometimes is better when someone different look at timetable :)
2013-03-24 12:31
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#143
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France marrrk
who would believe him when he says he doesn't find his own moves weird?
2013-03-24 16:09
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#147
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RE1EASE | 
Russia d3f /A/
who believe his temmate when he says he doesn't finds his friend's moves weird?
2013-03-24 16:33
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#149
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France marrrk
I do, his TT makes sense and he even got Hyper's opponents to admit they didn't think he cheated.
2013-03-24 16:56
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#144
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Denmark Kevzz
Who forced you to look at his demo all night long?
2013-03-24 16:23
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#146
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RE1EASE | 
Russia d3f /A/
it's not my words, read the news post
2013-03-24 16:33
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#137
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Denmark iPlayer
lol don't be sad about ESL ban, they don't pay prize money anyways.
2013-03-24 12:28
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#142
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Poland whOoOzAAA
nice timetable indeed.
2013-03-24 15:36
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#151
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Belgium Yoshk
ESL should be deleted
2013-03-24 17:33
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#152
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Greenland peter-
hyper go to the ban
2013-03-24 17:53
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#153
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Sweden wokee
Ban ESL instead.
2013-03-25 09:07
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#154
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Sweden SEMPLEZZ
ESl, go home you are fuckin drunk. Let's ban everyone that is to good! fuck sake:D
2013-03-25 10:43
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Here we go ... new cheater in da club ! -,-'
2013-03-25 11:07
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