Curse release Finns; Hawks return

26-4-2013 19:04

Curse has decided to release the Finnish team they have housed since November. The team will continue together under their previous name Hawks.

The team hasn't been able to replicate their THOR Open success since the departure of Niko "naSu" Kovanen and have had to make a few roster changes along the way as the addition of Timi "aslak" Verkkoperä didn't pan out.

With Verkkoperä on the team they managed to win LanTrek 2013 after a few close series in Tampere, but weren't able to attend any international events as real life commitments forced them to skip Mad Catz Vienna.

The Finnish squad has most recently won ESPC #2 in Helsinki, after a disappointing showing at Copenhagen Games where they were knocked out at 17-24th place by Xapso.

KHRN's team part ways with Curse after Copenhagen Games

According to Curse's website, the organization felt it wasn't fair splitting all of their CS:GO resources among the two teams and felt it would be more beneficial to focus all of their efforts on the North American squad.

Added Joona "natu" Leppänen: "Unfortunately with our contracts nearing their end, it was an obvious time for both parties to make plans for the future. It was in the best interest of both parties to go our separate ways."

Regarding their future, he continued: "But with one period ending, another begins. The team will be staying together no doubt and we will be known once again as Hawks, for the time being."

Hawks:

Aleksi "allu" Jalli
Jesse "KHRN" Grandell
Joona "natu" Leppänen
Timo "reflex" Rintala
Jonas "ScurK" Finnilä

Hawks will continue participating in ESPC's online league in hopes of qualifying for the finals at Solid Gaming 2 in Helsinki, just over a month from now. Interested organizations can reach the team at [email protected].

Gl in the future Hawks.

2013-04-26 19:04

people overrated them after some big rounds vs NiP etc. while they are not as good as they used to be losing to noob teams lately

2013-04-26 19:07

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they were very good until nasu (with whom they had those close games versus nip, beat fnatic, etc) left, but haven't been able to get to the same level without him. in general people aren't good at separating teams after a roster change (e.g. verygames pre-scream and post-scream).

2013-04-26 19:11

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2013-04-26 19:17

10 replies

This guy, my greatest fan. Would love to high five you one day!

2013-04-26 19:22

9 replies

in the head, with a chair? made of steel

2013-04-26 19:26

5 replies

haha <3

2013-04-26 19:36

Hahaha.. Nooooo. I'd buy him a beer and dig deep to find out where all the hate in his life surfaces from.

2013-04-26 20:02

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seriously i dont hate you guys and i love you natu! (sorry dude i like you so much that i make fun of you)

2013-04-26 22:21

by Hulk in adrenaline rush

2013-04-26 21:15

u must make retrun in CS:GO to show this finnish how to play, basic aslak natu nasu allu top5 world :D

2013-04-26 21:56

Are you guys planning to attend any international events, online or lan, in the future? Would be great!

2013-04-26 19:53

2 replies

Yep! Of course we will. Keep following us over at facebook.com/HawksCSGO to stay in touch!

2013-04-26 20:02

1 reply

"spread the hawkness" :D

2013-04-29 01:15

2013-04-26 19:18

51 replies

you aren't very smart are you? they beat the fnatic of december 2012. unless they possess a time machine (which i haven't heard of at least if that is the case) they couldn't have played the fnatic of 4 months later.

2013-04-26 19:20

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fnatic was playing with a test lineup, and was small on hours back then. so question, is that win really remarkable when you compare it to a close overtime versus nip?:)

2013-04-26 19:56

49 replies

so you're now making excuses for a team that you weren't a part of? that's new.

2013-04-26 20:06

48 replies

Oh snaaaaaaaaaappppppppppp!

2013-04-26 20:16

He's stating that Curse victory against fnatic was morelike kicking a dead dog, which I do agree with him in this case.

2013-04-26 20:20

There is no excuse? When you are such a big fan of analyzing things, one would think that you should consider that fnatic, as xyp9x said, was low on hours.. gg for beating them then. But ofc, you are the almighty Lurppis, so you can just throw an insult in the face of someone who is correcting you, and people would once again think you are right...

2013-04-26 20:26

At what point am I making excuses? It's common knowledge that the fnatic back then hadn't practiced since they had played cs 1.6 till the end and made the switch far later than most other teams including the finnish guys. fnatic didn't even have a stable lineup and were still practicing with different players, hawks beating them isn't really such an achievement when most teams were overcoming fnatic back then. Comparing that win back then with the result with nip, just doesn't make that much sense to me.

2013-04-26 20:29

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remember when eg lost against na`vi at wem 2010? well, i'm not making excuses, but it's common knowledge that a) our eg team didn't have time to practice b) we knew it was our last real event together c) me and frod didn't get along d) dboorn didn't have time to get used to the team e) air canada lost my bags on the way there f) some of us were sick g) we were tired... at what point am i making excuses? edit: or, is the only thing that matters that na`vi beat eg, and curse beat fnatic?

2013-04-26 20:41

43 replies

Dude you lost the argument

2013-04-26 20:47

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there was never any argument, just a butthurt dane making excuses for a team he was not a part of.

2013-04-26 20:53

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theres no excuses tho, its all fact and everyone who followed the scene new that. when you say they beat fnatic @ 2012 just makes you look stupid cause they were nowhere near to be the team to beat. back then they were half what theyre now.

2013-04-26 21:03

8 replies

...and curse beat them, then.

2013-04-26 21:09

7 replies

both teams were horrible

2013-04-26 21:19

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curse was pretty solid around thor open when they played close games versus nip. fnatic were horrible though.

2013-04-26 21:22

what? did you even read what i wrote? what i said was fnatic was horrible back then.

2013-04-26 21:30

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that all is irrelevant, i never said they weren't shit. all i said was curse beat them, which is the truth.

2013-04-26 21:33

3 replies

Nice fall back when you get called out for being wrong.

2013-04-26 21:58

lmao, youre hilarious.

2013-04-26 22:56

LOL

2013-04-27 13:13

why would he bother to make excuses for a team he wasn't part of? anyone on HLTV can say that fnatic back then were shit and it doesn't mean they're butthurt or making excuses for the team it's fact. fnatic hadn't practiced, they stuck with 1.6 and were automatically behind all the other teams so yeh the win over them wasn't really a great achievement. how on earth does that mean xyp is butthurt? he only said the nip achievement can't be compared to fnatic because it can't, they were opposite ends of the spectrum. nip had practiced, had a stable lineup and were at the top of their game. fnatic was no where near close to any of those..

2013-04-26 21:07

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didn't even bother to read beyond the first line but i have no idea why he is making excuses, you tell me.

2013-04-26 21:09

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so why reply if you didn't even bother to read past the first line. he isn't making excuses the fact other people are saying exactly the same who have never been part of fnatic or the fnatic organisation kind of proves it. it's not excuses it's FACT

2013-04-26 21:10

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so you think facts can't be excuses? it's not an excuse to say you had a bad night's sleep and lost because of it, because, you know, it's a fact? nice logic

2013-04-26 21:13

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no.. but to make an excuse would suggest they were strong in the beginning and then they were weak to imply they need an excuse for a weak performance. but they were ALWAYS weak in csgo in the start. they didn't have any stability or understanding of the game so curse beating them wasn't an achievement in the same way taking NiP into a near overtime was. it's not like xyp was making excuses for the team being shit because it's obvious a team without any practice in a game or a stable lineup isn't going to be able to beat teams consistently who had those things

2013-04-26 21:17

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so why point it out then if it isn't to make an excuse out of it? surely everyone involved, including me, knows fnatic were shit back then

2013-04-26 21:21

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because you acted as if they were good for overcoming fnatic so people are saying beating fnatic isn't good because they were weak..

2013-04-26 21:35

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i merely pointed out some of the notable wins they had. good thing i didn't mention the time they raped xyp9x's cplay after the danes tried their hardest to forfeit them or he probably would have come up with even more excuses xD

2013-04-26 21:38

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Do you even read tasha's comments? :D fnatic WASN'T really a notable win, because they were new at the game and praccing with a lot of different players. Ofc they had some big NAMES on the team, but they were all NEW in this game :D? Did you see how sucky ESC etc. were in the beginning of their CSGO-careers as well? I know that you know fnatic was sucky in the beginning, you pointed that out in #80, so why do you keep calling them a notable win?

2013-04-26 21:49

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it's usually memorable to win against the big organizations, even if their team sucked. esc were actually pretty good early on, most don't remember they were only a few rounds away from a top four finish at eswc 2012.

2013-04-26 21:53

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Yeah, but just because organisations are big and have a history, it doesn't mean they are worth mentioning at the moment. An example of that would be 4Kings (and yes, they are faded, but still). I get why you did mention fnatic, but I don't think it's "fair" calling Xyp9x butthurt cus of that, cus he got a valid point. But it seems you got a "beef" with him cus of the Hawks vs. CPlay-thing, so I guess that's why :D

2013-04-26 22:02

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i mentioned them and xyp9x started making excuses. why does any of this matter? why is there a 50 post conversation about it?

2013-04-26 22:26

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Because you claim he is butthurted, when he is really just arguing

2013-04-26 22:29

9 replies

why would he argue otherwise about a team he was not a part of unless he is butthurt over the image of his precious fnatic squad suffering?

2013-04-26 22:33

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He would argue, because he got a valid point. tasha can see it too, and she has never been a part of fnatic. Is she butthurt as well? But this discussion has gone way too far already :D

2013-04-26 22:40

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It's just so easy to bash him because of the image he has in the scene.

2013-04-28 21:28

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2013-04-29 20:39

every person who has replied has said the same thing as xyp, do you think they give a fuck about the fnatic image when they're all saying fnatic was shit?

2013-04-26 23:32

tbh you're the one who sounds butthurt that people criticize curse (now hawks)

2013-04-26 23:33

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lol hawks just lost to our mixteam in Finnish espcleague and half of our players don't even have 120fps in cs:go. They sure are doing so great. I think little critic could be in place? And lets ask ourselves why lurppis would be a good/bad person to give that critic rather than you or any other noob from these forums.

2013-04-29 01:32

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????? Pls read my comment again and the comment i answered.

2013-04-29 10:02

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too high to comment on hltv.org apparently

2013-04-29 11:52

+1. Are you still around or did he ban you richard lewis style?

2013-04-26 21:57

9 replies

not banned yet :D

2013-04-26 22:06

i've never banned anyone :(. i got banned by gonzo on cadred though!

2013-04-26 22:27

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Who havent been banned by him...I once wrote that nip's dominance in GO was boring and got banned by him, lol

2013-04-26 22:55

I posted one comment in cadred and after 10mins I got banned so... cadred is deadred, no one cares about them :D

2013-04-26 23:17

from what you post here it was deserved your a massive dick, you need to learn mannors and use them. Mannors cost nothing, so there is no excuse on why your such a prick :( x

2013-04-28 18:00

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you should learn how to spell, it doesn't cost anything :( x

2013-04-28 18:35

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well spelling costs time, and time costs money in the long run :s plus I say your lack of mannors and you bang on about grammer on a forum. If this was a english exam I'd understand, but thank you for your feedback I will try to improve my spelling when posting on a gaming forum x I also would hope you try to improve on your mannors :) x

2013-04-28 19:16

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dictionary.reference.com/browse/mannor?s.. :) x

2013-04-28 20:26

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all that i said and still daymmnn guess you will learn the hard way my dude hehe have fun with your dictionary bro :) (if you didnt get the vibe, i dont give a shit about my spelling on a forum or in general) coz i hav maNnorz ty sugar tets x

2013-04-28 21:30

Fnatic was shit at that time right?

2013-04-26 19:21

When will we see your brother and you in a same team again?

2013-04-26 19:27

4 replies

we occasionally team up in 2v2 badminton games

2013-04-26 19:30

3 replies

not surprised

2013-04-26 19:45

:DD

2013-04-26 20:14

badminton is cool though!

2013-04-26 20:16

2013-04-26 19:47

u should go play there

2013-04-26 20:24

5 replies

i have no plans of playing cs:prophe.

2013-04-26 21:11

4 replies

try to play on professional level or just "stfu" no offence

2013-04-26 23:16

3 replies

i have no interest in playing cs:prophe on any level, that's why i haven't played the game since november

2013-04-26 23:21

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so you still think this game is a joke yeap?? I have feeling that is right, the game basically is not bad as it used to be some months ago but nothing would replace 1.6, it's not a reason to criticize players when you don't really know their situation

2013-04-26 23:26

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i have no idea what you're even saying. i don't like cs:go. i have no interest or plans to play cs:go. done.

2013-04-28 00:32

I've meant to ask about that, what happened? Did naSu quit or they wanted to see if aslak can do same thing as 2011 and they felt naSu is the best choice to leave. When I heard about that I felt like I was rick rolled same when you + H^N and that other low elo player.

2013-04-28 00:12

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nasu quit. aslak would have joined either way i think, but he would have replaced one of the weaker players instead.

2013-04-28 00:33

gl hawks =)

2013-04-26 19:08

gl hawkS

2013-04-26 19:10

didnt deserve to be in curse anyways

2013-04-26 19:12

KHRN FIGHTING!!!

2013-04-26 19:13

kHArON>>>>>>

2013-04-26 19:18

gl hawks

2013-04-26 19:19

seems like NA > europe in this case

2013-04-26 19:21

6 replies

NA > Finland to be more precise.

2013-04-26 19:23

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Considering the majority of the U.S would probably have a hard time placing russia on the world map, any European country gets simplified to representing the whole of Europe.

2013-04-26 22:00

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hahahaha +1

2013-04-26 23:51

indeed

2013-04-27 00:02

Ouch.

2013-04-27 03:27

Clutching at straws

2013-04-27 01:07

fl finns

2013-04-26 19:24

Was know little bit before, when adreN on stream asked anger, shouldn't they have names like Curse anger, not Curse.NA anger. Anger answered that fins doesn't yet know and then adren was like "Ooo shit" and turned off the screen for a moment.

2013-04-26 19:37

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Rly? hahah

2013-04-26 21:55

Hopefully curse pick up another top team.

2013-04-26 19:42

3 replies

Curse.NA ?

2013-04-26 20:18

2 replies

yea i was thinking along the lines of a euro team

2013-04-26 20:27

1 reply

I'm pretty sure that they are going only with NA team. More money, more tournaments attendance.

2013-04-26 20:43

Why nasu left? imo he just calls himself too overpowered

2013-04-26 19:45

7 replies

he doesn't like cs:go. just plays dota2 for fun now.

2013-04-26 19:48

6 replies

smart move

2013-04-26 20:17

He doesn't like it?? Even though he was really good at it?

2013-04-27 08:18

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i don't think he was ever good at cs:go, simply because he never bothered trying to. every time i watched him play it just looked like he didn't care at all, never tried to aim, simply sprayed every time he saw an opponent etc. i think it hit him how much he disliked cs:go when we went to asus final battle of the year in december and played cs 1.6 again, but to answer your question, no, he doesn't like cs:go.

2013-04-27 18:20

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I see well you're his brother after all who could possibly know more than you into this matter anyways, since you won't play CSGO at all at least i guess is a good thing you will be busy doing work for HLTV and ESEA right? Its a real shame you won't put to use all that incredible knowledge and insight you have about CS dude honestly just by listenening to your casting one can tell how much of a geek you are when it comes down to CS but anyhow gl in whatever future projects you and your brother have :)

2013-04-27 20:11

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i mean i have my priorities straight, i work in esports because a lot of it is fun, i make some part time cash and if i didn't do a lot of what i do, i don't think anyone would, so i think it benefits everyone around. aside from not liking cs:go i think i'm just getting too old to practice hours and hours a day five days a week. i did that from 2004-2012 basically non stop, so i've thoroughly been enjoying all the free time i've had in the past +1 year. time to move on for me i guess ^^

2013-04-27 20:55

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Yup, part of growing up i guess which apparently is a term a lot of people in this forum do not understand haha still

2013-04-28 09:26

what did I say 2 days ago? nevermind.

2013-04-26 19:50

derserved

2013-04-26 20:02

about time this happened.

2013-04-26 20:06

if naSU could stick together with the initial lineup they would have been top5 for sure. either way it is not worth spending too much time at a game that has no future after 2013.

2013-04-26 20:19

where is aslak??? he stil playing?? we miss his awp style

2013-04-26 20:21

1 reply

yeah, but I'm still learning -,-

2013-04-26 20:30

finally

2013-04-26 20:25

gl natu =D

2013-04-26 20:37

ITT: People realise how much of a c*nt lurppis is.

2013-04-26 20:41

naSu aslak natu allu reflex

2013-04-26 20:43

2 replies

basic tha man of situation ;)

2013-04-26 21:57

why would nasu make comeback when he told that he doesnt have motivation go in lans when they dont succeed ever?

2013-04-26 23:59

gl :D

2013-04-26 20:51

gl gl

2013-04-26 20:56

Expected

2013-04-26 21:05

Glglgl

2013-04-26 21:16

If rumours about aslak joining ence are true, I think ence will be top1 in Finland this year Anyway sad news for hawks that they werent able to do any better for curse after lineup changes. Good luck in future.

2013-04-26 21:35

4 replies

Who plays for ENCE, i just forgot.

2013-04-26 21:57

1 reply

well if u believe in rumours then shaker, sunny, dRiim, mkzz and aslak instead of saggerton

2013-04-26 22:42

it's not like he will stay in that team for longer than it takes him to become good at cs:go, and then he will start playing with a team with more potential (e.g. curse after him replacing someone)

2013-04-26 22:40

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well yeah who knows I think ence has potential after practicing a lot, still i believe curse should had change scurk long time ago, he is not on level of other his teammates unfortunately.

2013-04-26 22:44

Did they receive salaries in Curse? Ont: Good luck guys, i'm sure you'll find a new home

2013-04-26 21:53

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they did not... curse also didn't send them to some events they wanted to attend (e.g. mad catz birmingham)

2013-04-26 22:41

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Ah alright...I've heard that Curse is a pretty shitty org when it comes to sending their players to lans and so on..I guess its all true lol

2013-04-26 22:57

No they didn't and apparently the support from Curse in whole was somewhat laughable. At least allu and reflex weren't really holding anything back when bashing the american organization on natu's stream. Not that they truly deserved any of it after nasu parted. :D natu: By the way I'm streaming. allu: I don't give a fuck. I believe this was day after allu's grand initiative to make CurseEU absolutely whineless team where everyone supports and loves each other unconditionally. :D "At least we showed up." - CurseEU, 5.12.2012 - 26.4.2013

2013-04-26 22:43

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Well in all honesty i've never met a guy from Finland that cares about anything haha xd

2013-04-26 22:58

1 reply

lucky finns

2013-04-27 11:01