Swogger formed; mouz to fold?

A new German CS:GO team have been created under the name Swogger, raising questions about the future of mousesports.

Last night, a new team called Swogger appeared on ESEA's website and immediately signed up for the European Intermediate division, which will feature teams like Copenhagen Wolves, k1ck and Lemondogs.

Swogger are led by Azmican "asmo" Berberoglu, who has unsurprisingly decided to link up with Benjamin "qk-Mantis" Oberlein, this way ending speculation about the former n!faculty duo joining the remnants of the TCM-Gaming lineup on a permanent basis.

Manuel "approx" Zeitz and Andre "nooky" Utesch have both jumped on board after seemingly quitting mousesports, who finished in a disappointing third place at the EPS Finals last weekend with Fatih "gob b" Dayik as a stand-in.


nooky and zonixx in new German team

Completing the team is also a former member of mouz, Michele "zonixx" Köhler, who was on the market after being released by the German giants last month.

Swogger are also registered on the ESL's website and have been playing some matches in the A-Series, possibly with a view to competing in the RaidCall EMS One cups.

The team's lineup is the following:

Germany Azmican "asmo" Berberoglu
Germany Benjamin "qk-Mantis" Oberlein
Germany Manuel "approx" Zeitz
Germany Andre "nooky" Utesch
Germany Michele "zonixx" Köhler

The future of mousesports' CS:GO division appears to be up in the air, with the team now apparently being down to just two players, Tobias "Troubley" Tabbert and Finn "karrigan" Andersen.

Andersen was seen playing for Western Wolves as a stand-in last night, but it is still unknown whether the Danish veteran is planning on going back to his roots.

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United Kingdom AnDEh92
omg
2013-05-15 14:33
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#2
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Italy MiracleWorker
karrigan back to fnatic instead of stinger
2013-05-15 14:34
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Morocco hqhq17
+
2013-05-15 17:05
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#3
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shox | 
Denmark MrDivi
omge karrigan left alone lolo
2013-05-15 14:35
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#4
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Slovakia maniacof
troubley to tmc karrigan to fnatic
2013-05-15 14:35
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5 replies
#47
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Germany xlex
stavros and troubley hate each other thats why stavros left mouz
2013-05-15 16:06
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4 replies
#61
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Slovakia maniacof
Ah cool :)
2013-05-15 17:03
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#85
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
because troubly is an idiot which world never seen before.
2013-05-16 16:10
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2 replies
#87
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Serbia zileEeee
u know him?
2013-05-17 20:09
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1 reply
#88
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
y
2013-05-18 09:52
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#5
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Norway Rubentus
This is interesting as hell
2013-05-15 14:36
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2 replies
#7
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Sweden SEMPLEZZ
indeed! i was just about to write the same:P
2013-05-15 14:37
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#70
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United Kingdom knobhead
nerds
2013-05-15 17:32
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#6
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Portugal Schypher
What's up lately with so many teams disbanding?
2013-05-15 14:36
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#8
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Italy pauLo~
game is too hard
2013-05-15 14:37
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#13
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Russia Stickyf
couz game sux
2013-05-15 14:45
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Players are not professional or anything. Simple as that. I don't like this guy. I hate this guy. This guy is so mean. Soon no teams will exist anymore because everyone hates a person so they can't team up because this guy hates another person but likes the other one. lqlqlql
2013-05-15 15:34
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#41
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Portugal oAnonREAL
I'm sry were you talking about Real Madrid or CS?
2013-05-15 15:43
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2 replies
You have to understand that there was a lot of sarcasm in my post. Though it actually is like this.
2013-05-15 15:44
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#43
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Russia Saint1
north american cs
2013-05-15 15:45
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#39
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Estonia 2026
they realize they suck vs pros. I'm sure even you would like to see karrigan back in fnatic instead of stinger.
2013-05-15 15:42
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#45
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United Kingdom Rickeh^
Welcome to the mindset of CS:S players!
2013-05-15 15:58
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3 replies
#57
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Switzerland BennyBen
This has nothing to do with CSS.
2013-05-15 16:43
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#74
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Germany THE_FUHRER
It's actually a team of 4 1.6 and 1 CSS players that disbanded ;)
2013-05-15 21:28
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#82
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United Kingdom Rickeh^
I'm not talking about this team specifically, just pointing out that the constant chopping and changing of players is a mentality that carries over from the CS:S scene :D
2013-05-15 23:21
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Finland rad1um
2013-05-15 14:37
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#10
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Germany Enderlin
wtf - the /10/ team has way more potential than this! approx and zonixx are mediocre compared to cly and stavros!
2013-05-15 14:39
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#11
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Italy pauLo~
i'm still wondering when is some good org gonna make a sick lineup with cLy in it :( he's the one that deserves most.
2013-05-15 14:41
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Not really, he's leaving his teams like after a few weeks. Always it's not his fault, he says.
2013-05-15 15:35
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7 replies
#37
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Italy pauLo~
maybe it really isnt , i dont know/care about private stuff , same thing happened with moddii years ago. but he still is an amazing player , same goes for cLy , young full of talent and potential to dominate .de scene
2013-05-15 15:37
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true and actually nobody knows which fault it is, he often said that he left teams because they don't want to practice and whatnot, thats a good reason, seems hard to find guys who actually want to practice lots
2013-05-15 15:40
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#58
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Italy pauLo~
i know , that's why i'm hoping he's gonna get some good sponsored team to start playing and practicing at the highest level as he is in his prime years
2013-05-15 16:44
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#65
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Greece stavie10
im playing with him for 5 months now and there are no problems :o
2013-05-15 17:13
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#66
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Italy pauLo~
ye i know , like i said , i dont know/care which fault it was months ago when he had other teams , cause he doesnt seem to be the problem...:D
2013-05-15 17:15
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#68
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Portugal landelrey
lol cLy is just a random onliner as he was in 1.6,who cares about him
2013-05-15 17:25
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#69
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Italy pauLo~
hmm , nope
2013-05-15 17:25
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cly, strux and stavros to mouz plz
2013-05-15 14:42
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United States nytz
I'm guessing until mouz pay stavros what they owe him (if they didn't do that yet) this is not happening.
2013-05-15 15:22
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Europe omga
no one wants to play with troubley lol
2013-05-15 14:45
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#75
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Germany THE_FUHRER
that's his own fault. that arrogant idiot
2013-05-15 21:31
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Russia Stickyf
karrigan,GuardiaN,cLy,strux,stavros = mousesports top3 world
2013-05-15 14:46
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Greece her-1g
prolly troubley,stux1,stavros,cly,guardian will be the team
2013-05-15 15:16
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yeah and troubley and stavros gonna make their relationship official
2013-05-15 15:35
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1 reply
xD
2013-05-15 16:11
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#16
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United Kingdom danielsan-
sick team
2013-05-15 14:48
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#17
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Denmark zjac0b
cLy Stavros Strux1 Karrigan last?
2013-05-15 14:48
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Turkey EPHESUS
GuardiaN
2013-05-15 14:57
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4 replies
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Iceland TechnoKitten
He can speak german?
2013-05-15 15:08
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Don't think so but everyone of them speaks decent english. Should be enough.
2013-05-15 15:11
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2 replies
Source? Have you seen the interview with stavros? I don't think you have.
2013-05-15 15:36
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No, I didn't watch it, just made my deductions from the TCM-Mix-team performance thus I thought they all can speak english (as being an international mixed team). I have seen several interviews with karrigan, he certainly can speak english.
2013-05-15 15:42
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-stinger + karrigan , old inzane fnatic back again :(
2013-05-15 14:52
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World bigb1rd
That TCM lineup were good, they could have made more of an impact than most german teams have so far in CSGO. Interested to see where karrigan, strux, stavros, cLy etc end up.
2013-05-15 14:52
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Denmark SNAZ^^
karrigan to wester wolvesXD
2013-05-15 14:55
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would be a cool team, at least they would like each other I think, all nice personalities!
2013-05-15 15:10
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Mouz = Troubley, cLy, Stavros, Strux & GuardiaN. Perhaps karrigan to stepin for WW? Although I've been impressed with Isenbo, and not impressed with karrigan.
2013-05-15 15:11
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#26
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Greece her-1g
i was thinking the same thing :D karrigan might join nille and make a team. :)
2013-05-15 15:15
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#29
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Lithuania alon9
considering that stavros got kicked (or left) from mouz 2 times, i doubt.
2013-05-15 15:25
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not gonna happen
2013-05-15 15:36
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#76
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Germany THE_FUHRER
wow, a team of 5 arrogant pricks. no thanks.
2013-05-15 21:33
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2 replies
Why are you so angry?
2013-05-15 22:02
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1 reply
#80
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Germany THE_FUHRER
I'm not angry...
2013-05-15 22:05
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Zonixx didn't get released, he left.
2013-05-15 15:16
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#31
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Sweden noobzoris
Great lineup tbh
2013-05-15 15:24
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#44
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Other cregs
As long as games are played by young men, most teams are one petty squabble away from disbanding.
2013-05-15 15:48
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#46
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Belgium Foerester
New German powerhouse. Would be so cool if A-Losers decided to comeback
2013-05-15 15:59
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#77
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Germany THE_FUHRER
+ Team64 and Ocrana :) But to be honest: The German scene is almost dead. We don't even have the needed players to fill two good teams (mouz and attax) or even 3 (+n!factulty) :(
2013-05-15 21:35
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Hell yeah fnatic should make a move and pick-up Karrigan
2013-05-15 16:13
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#50
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
karrigan in trouble
2013-05-15 16:15
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#51
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France breezy0
get troubley or karrigan instead of zonixx and you have a decent team.
2013-05-15 16:15
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#52
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Portugal foxjoverall
The German scene is in some real trouble, I wouldnt be surprised if Mousesports decide not to have a team altogether.
2013-05-15 16:17
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#78
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Germany THE_FUHRER
sad but true
2013-05-15 21:37
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#53
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Slovakia TTTTTTT
cly troubley stavros struxy karrigan new mouse
2013-05-15 16:18
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#54
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Poland pharlig
sad for Troubley he was best
2013-05-15 16:20
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#55
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Germany Enderlin
if you don't understand german, you most likely don't know how bad troubleys teamflames, his constant nagging and bragging about his kills are for the team moral. if you have someone like troubley on your team, you end up getting pissed off and leaving, like strux, stavros and zonixx did.
2013-05-15 16:28
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#56
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China jojo20042
/10/ is dead? that team is best in germany
2013-05-15 16:41
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#59
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Germany FatShady
hope mouz shut down csgo should have never gotten a team anyway
2013-05-15 16:51
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#60
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France 29stephano
CS:GO is DYING
2013-05-15 16:52
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Hehehehehe Karrigan is not going to Western Wolves hEHEHEH XD
2013-05-15 17:04
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what's up with the unstable teams, people changing team daily lol.
2013-05-15 17:06
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World fzt
2013-05-15 17:18
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#71
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Slovakia zaerius
question...TCM won twice the techlabs qual because of lineup changes..so now it will be 3rd qual against navi or what? :D
2013-05-15 18:04
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#81
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Germany emma watsoN
no, asmo and qk will play the final in Minsk
2013-05-15 22:42
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#72
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France marrrk
wish gob b was in
2013-05-15 18:46
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#83
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Germany freakopaN
wont play csgo
2013-05-16 00:59
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1 reply
#84
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France marrrk
I know
2013-05-16 01:01
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#73
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United States mah9
what about tcm?
2013-05-15 19:04
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#86
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
I thought asmo and Mantis were part of TCM, anyway gl.
2013-05-16 16:11
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