Refuse in trouble for DH Summer

11-6-2013 18:11

Refuse have confirmed to HLTV.org that they are at risk of not attending DreamHack Summer later this week.

The Swedish team qualified for the tournament in Jönköping via the Inferno Online qualifier, which they won following a 2-1 victory over Epsilon in the final.

However, just days before DreamHack, Alexander "SKYTTEN" Carlsson's side have learned that Refuse will not be able to send them to the event.

The former ESG! team are now desperate to find an organisation who is willing to send the players to Jönköping, where they will take part in DreamHack's CS:GO tournament and in the Swedish Championship.

All interested organisations can contact the team via e-mail at [email protected].

The team's lineup is the following:

Daniel "rape" Börzsönyi
Danniel "dalito" Moralés
Erik "marvel" Janbell
Maikel "eksem" Bill
Alexander "SKYTTEN" Carlsson

2013-06-11 18:11

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hahahaha

2013-06-12 04:01

sad

2013-06-11 18:11

i feel sorry for them, they deserved to go to Dreamhack

2013-06-11 18:12

Where is olofm?

2013-06-11 18:12

10 replies

This is a good question, olofmeister is a fucking beast.

2013-06-11 18:13

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Without olofm, ESG is so weak >.<

2013-06-11 18:16

olofm won the qual for them, maybe he got picked by Epsilon?

2013-06-11 18:17

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centryz playin for epsilon

2013-06-11 19:53

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Maybe they are trialing

2013-06-11 19:55

Don't think olofm wants to play seriously :)

2013-06-11 18:59

playing with duttdutt

2013-06-11 19:32

The team didn't play the qualifier. It was just eksem & SKYTTEN (?) who played it as a mix. But they decided to go to DH with their team, not the mix that won.

2013-06-11 19:46

olofm is not part of any team.

2013-06-11 21:15

had other things planned on the same date as dreamhack gl to refuse

2013-06-14 04:46

They wont do any harm with that lineup, but gl :-)

2013-06-11 18:14

team from sweden, need spons to go to swedish dreamhack......?? FUCK LOGIC

2013-06-11 18:14

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2013-06-11 18:15

pay the trip, train etc? retard

2013-06-11 18:25

22 replies

yeah right, after all, sweden is one of the most poor countries in EU, the welfare is horrible, they wont have anything to eat if they pay for the train

2013-06-11 18:29

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+1 :D

2013-06-11 18:35

and how fucking expensive is that? they should just tell their parents and they will pay :s

2013-06-11 18:35

7 replies

Yes because everyone has parents like you that pays for everything.

2013-06-11 18:48

5 replies

thats to bad. but probably the parents will make an exception in this case?

2013-06-11 19:08

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Not to sure about that, not alot of parents likes gaming so much.

2013-06-11 19:19

and you might consider some of them are probably over 18? so they need to bring in the money for themselfs after school.

2013-06-11 19:54

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Nope, I don't have to. :-)

2013-06-11 21:09

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It's really nothing to brag about..

2013-06-12 20:52

Not as simple as that...

2013-06-11 19:12

In belgium you pay 10 euro to go to the farest place..

2013-06-11 18:43

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Hahaa yeah in holland its not that expensive too but we live in countries that arent the biggest. I dont know how tye prices are in sweden though...

2013-06-11 18:45

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i fucking love holland but not because cheap travelling :)

2013-06-11 18:54

10 euro nah come on its imposibble. i have been there i paid 15 euros brussels to knokke with return.

2013-06-11 19:47

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i paid 7 euros blankenberge , hasselt. Maybe because i got a reduction card r something but i mean 15 euro's isnt that much is it.

2013-06-11 19:59

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no not really at all. i lost in blankenberge when i went to knokke. :D coz i don`t speak belgian. I forgot to change in gent. so after it sorted all . :D

2013-06-11 21:40

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Haha Blankenberge is my hometown :D

2013-06-12 13:15

you pay like 90 bucks to travel by train from Umea to Stockholm in Sweden...

2013-06-12 04:16

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You mean euros right? There is a quite a difference.

2013-06-12 09:59

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dollars

2013-06-12 20:06

The trip and hotels shouldn't be more then 150-200 euros per person. That's including food, tickets and a place to stay.

2013-06-11 18:46

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Worth mentioning is that you don't need to pay for a hotel, you can sleep in Elmia where DH is held. So a cheap train trip + food should really not be that expensive.

2013-06-11 21:09

2013-06-11 18:26

Yeah because all swedes lives in Jönköping...

2013-06-11 18:29

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Will probably cost them at most 40-50 euro per person to travel to Jönköping. And they can sleep on DH like all the others, no need for a hotel if they don't have the money for it.

2013-06-11 21:11

big +1 wtf

2013-06-11 18:45

i dont know about sweden, but im from sicily and if i have to go in milan in 2 days the airplane tickets will cost more than 180€

2013-06-11 19:08

2013-06-11 19:27

This! Sweden is not that big that they can't afford the trip.

2013-06-11 20:04

not too expensive, but still over 50e for a train ride from stockholm to jönköping (for example).

2013-06-11 21:08

And they took Epsilons place, fortunately they qualified afterwards.

2013-06-11 18:15

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You have any info, as a swede, about what happened to olofm? Did he join Epsilon?

2013-06-11 18:18

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Trial

2013-06-11 18:31

why im not surprised? :DDD

2013-06-11 18:15

(BJOERN,maxaKi,SKYTTEN,eksem,olofm) <- This line up qualified for Dreamhack, not the one I see under Refuse. They changed 3 players ?

2013-06-11 18:17

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It was mix team----^

2013-06-11 18:20

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So Random1 and Random2 can create a team with GeT_RiGhT, forest and Xzit and after qualifying they can remove them and go to DH with Random1, Random2, Random3, Random4, Random5 ?

2013-06-11 18:23

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Logic.. This shouldn't be allowed..

2013-06-11 18:25

Yeah but if "they" got picked by Refuse why didn't they announce this lineup then? What happened? Why aren't maxa and olofm on the team?

2013-06-11 18:24

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dno

2013-06-11 18:26

not even able to send a swedish team to DH? :(

2013-06-11 18:19

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And like c0rvus just wrote, it's a completely different team too.

2013-06-11 18:21

With a player called "rape," one might question whether a legitimately good organization would take them in, no?

2013-06-11 18:20

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With a brit questioning rape or an orga one might question why are you even here and not on cadred?

2013-06-11 18:23

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Horrendous reply.

2013-06-11 18:27

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Horrendous post to which I replied. Rape is a well known very talented player and the brits are saucers. My reply was spot on

2013-06-11 18:33

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"Brits are saucers". What? Why are you even talking about Source players as if they're a different species. Brits have all right to be on this site instead of cadred. Also, he has a valid point that nobody would like to have a guy called 'RAPE' to represent their organisation. Sounds very childish and unprofessional.

2013-06-11 18:44

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Calm down man I wasn't too serious EDIT: And BTW, if rape had given the change he could have very well been as hot as fe. MODDII, to be a big name. If rape was playing in NiP right now no orga would give a flying fuck if his nick was rape, they would pick him. EDIT2: I have been to this site regularly for over 10 years. I recognize the cadred, trust me

2013-06-11 19:00

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Edit2 was quite funny, i must say. But surely you can't disagree on the fact that RAPE isn't the best name to be chosen?

2013-06-11 21:01

2/10, good try

2013-06-11 18:27

wat is lyfe?

2013-06-11 18:41

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youtube.com/watch?v=6zlViU5PBPY

2013-06-11 18:51

You didn't even watch it! I thought it was a funny joke. You're a real bitch

2013-06-11 19:20

wauw you should shut up

2013-06-11 18:43

bloody hell, i can tell you're finnish you spastic fuck

2013-06-11 23:16

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I won the argument bitch. You are far behind the wagon

2013-06-12 00:17

The "rape" name is accually wrong spelled. His nick name should have been "rapé" whitch it is a snus brand in sweden. But in 1.6 you cant use "é" so he used the closest to it and made it "rape".

2013-06-11 18:30

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Okay. :)

2013-06-11 18:31

2013-06-11 19:57

hahahahahahahahahahahah

2013-06-11 18:49

His name is supposedly pronounced "rap�". Which is a swedish brand on snuff :) EDIT: Soz, didn't read it all and now i saw that someone else already gave u the answer :)

2013-06-11 19:10

they could be top2 in sweden

2013-06-11 18:23

LOL,why they need sponsorship? They are from Sweeden for the God sake...even if they are from other town the travel cost is verry low. Anyway,without olofm they better stay home.

2013-06-11 18:24

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And you would know how expensive it is because you live in Sweden right? It's actually cheaper getting a flight to the Balkans than a train that goes all across Sweden(dunno where they live).

2013-06-12 10:04

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C'mon dude...Is not lik e they fly from USA. Maybe is not so cheap but not so expensive neither.

2013-06-12 10:18

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Well yeah, but it's a letdown in the last moment. And they are probably "kids" who don't work at all. The fuss is exaggerated but it is what it is.

2013-06-12 12:24

So Refuse bailed on the original agreement, or?

2013-06-11 18:27

swedish team need sponsors for swedish LAN dafaq?

2013-06-11 18:28

pay for it yourselves its in your country..

2013-06-11 18:29

4 replies

What if they are young students? Money doesn't grow in trees

2013-06-11 18:37

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it does, cut trees make paper then transform it to cash.

2013-06-12 01:04

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2013-06-12 01:56

youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU

2013-06-12 15:08

So only 2 players from the 5 that actually qualified are going...

2013-06-11 18:31

2013-06-11 18:33

Looks like the organization refused to pay their trip to DH... YEEEAAAAAH *CSI Miami music*

2013-06-11 18:34

4 replies

nice one :)

2013-06-11 18:35

:D this is meme stuff

2013-06-11 18:36

Inb4 cadred title

2013-06-11 18:37

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cadred.org/News/Article/89196/ still my favorite one.

2013-06-11 18:44

CSGO has way too many shitty "orgs" who suddenly stop being orgs when they need to hand out some cash for the players

2013-06-11 18:40

get a paper round you scrubs!

2013-06-11 18:42

i hope they will be replaced by LD or someone else if they want to go with this lineup( 3 different players from the qualifications)

2013-06-11 18:43

They really deserve this opportunity. Comon rich ppl help them :p

2013-06-11 18:49

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They don't deserved it. They play with different lu on qualification(with olofm who basically win the lan for them) and now they present a bad lu with 3 players change. Lemondogs to take their spot.

2013-06-12 10:23

I just can't stand reading the clueless comments, why would you comment with total nonsense if you have no knowledge about anything about this certain topic? If the 3 players of ESG gave up their position in order to let a Team play on Dreamhack Main, they are allowed to do it. We're still trying to fix the issue, it's not about not paying but paying not in time because of some bank transfer issue happened. Thanks to HLTV for helping the guys. Hopefully they will represent Refuse on DH, but until we haven't fixed the issue, any org feel free to contact the team. Regards,

2013-06-11 18:51

As many have said above me... pay for the fcking trip urselfs. Most of the meaningless teams have to pay for thise things themselves. After u do good enough on lan with ur team ull get some decent sponsors.

2013-06-11 18:52

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+1 so much bullshit here.

2013-06-11 18:58

Agree. I do not support the it's cheap claims from half of the people above because they're being ignorant, but the truth is that they haven't achieved much, so it's not like they are yet deserving of an organization that's gonna pay them stuff.

2013-06-12 10:08

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Ye its like getting a reward in advance.. doest make sense yo me imo. I dont know if its cheap either. DH itself isnt cheap for 5 players is it? Or is that what they won through the qualifiers?

2013-06-12 12:46

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Everybody pays the fees afaik, regardless of how they get there.

2013-06-12 20:20

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Ok didnt know that :)

2013-06-12 21:28

They will pay for themselves. They are just taking their chances in case.

2013-06-11 18:56

Are they serious? It's gonna cost them around 200 euros for a roundtrip for all five players.

2013-06-11 19:01

why would someone sponsor these? the only reason they managed to win the qualifier was because olofm was dropping a 20bomb every game and now they've dropped him.

2013-06-11 19:10

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2/10, bad troll attempt, sorry

2013-06-11 19:11

no olof- shit!

2013-06-11 19:18

Sad! gl

2013-06-11 19:30

2013-06-11 19:44

sad for SKYTTEN..

2013-06-11 19:52

Is it hard for swedish player to go to DH? it's not like they held it in foreign country right?

2013-06-11 20:44

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absolutely not

2013-06-12 00:52

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oh boy :|

2013-06-12 04:08

refuse/resist ;)

2013-06-11 21:44

lmfao, refuse and support haha. GOOD JOKE.

2013-06-11 22:55

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oh oh someone is jelly, sup rekzu, still bad at trolling?

2013-06-12 08:53

Everyone on hltv seems to be so god damn rich.

2013-06-12 00:30

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Nah, but not so expensive to travel in sweden.

2013-06-12 00:51

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yet it's one of the most expensive places to travel in europe? Rail card would've surely helped them, but still, it's not cheap.

2013-06-12 10:14

Why dont you get a job?

2013-06-12 01:54

they call russians poor and cant afford a train.

2013-06-12 10:27

The truth is if you don't want to even pay your own cost to the LANs your attending (being a new team). Then why even bother playing competitively. I mean where is the spritit if you dont want to risk a single coin?!? There is hundreds of ways to get to DH, it's not like you need to arrive in a cab or anything. I remember having a swimming team back in the day, we had almost no money, but we all jammed in to one buddies car and drove down there our selves with all the gear. It felt cheap and it was not comfy at all, but it's amazing what you can do IF you only want to! So c'mon guys, pack the bags and roll over there in your neighbors old car or something!

2013-06-12 10:32

You dont deserve a sponsor if you wont even put the effort in to attend an event in your own country.

2013-06-12 10:32

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This is very true, wouldn't give them a penny.

2013-06-13 15:20

team from sweden, need spons to go to swedish dreamhack......??

2013-06-13 01:33

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It's the same like in Poland. Good teams don't want to pay entry fee, travel, accommodation and sometimes they want money for food or % etc.

2013-06-13 12:09

They are unsure of they gameplay thats why they need the sponsor. No sponsor = we go there and lose a lot of money. Sponsor = we go there and will not lose a lot of money. Sad to write but I think they will not come out from the group. Anyway good luck in finding a sponsor.

2013-06-13 12:16