Video: New movement values

21-7-2013 18:25

ESEA have in co-operation with Heffrey "godFrey" Brauer and Luis "M0rD0cK" Chaveiro created a video to demonstrate the effects of their new suggested movement values.

The duo originally published their suggested new values for movement in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, but ESEA News have now helped them compile a video to further demonstrate their effects.

Click play below on the over three minutes long video to find out just how the new suggested values impact movement speed, tagging, acceleration and more.

If you missed the original news post on Thursday just before the roster changes shook the scene, you can find it here. It is currently unknown if Valve plans on implementing these settings.

Too slow.

2013-07-21 18:25

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i wrote the post as soon as it was published on esea news (dchozn linked me) but since we'd actually like as many people as possible to see this (since it has a chance of improving cs:go as a game if people agree with the changes) we wanted to delay the news post until now :).

2013-07-21 18:28

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I was talking about the values, I'm not criticizing your work :)

2013-07-21 18:31

Too fast ;)

2013-07-21 18:44

not at all, you are just one of the guys that love spamming ADADAD

2013-07-21 18:28

It isn't, just need to get used to it. No more noobs running like like chickens. Also the rusher has an advantage now because when the defender is peeking and waiting suddenly the rusher pops up like a ghost

2013-07-21 18:29

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The runner also had the peeking advantage before?

2013-07-21 18:35

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Thats what I'm saying yes

2013-07-21 18:58

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"Also the rusher has an advantage now" Now? makes it sound like it was different before.

2013-07-21 18:59

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Yes my fault, just said now for 'if' the movement update will come

2013-07-21 19:02

Movement is a bit slow ,but it will allow us to hold positions that we were not able to hold before

2013-07-21 18:57

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not, what is it that is very fast.

2013-07-21 18:54

these values are quite good.

2013-07-21 18:58

try QUAKE then.

2013-07-21 19:21

Thanks lurppis! :)

2013-07-21 18:26

I tried it out. It felt good actually. Is it just me that thinks the new recoil change is a bit weird when spraying? I liked how 1.6 worked. Even though spraying could go everywhere if you weren't skilled' it was still possible to do some good 5 man spraydowns.

2013-07-21 18:34

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in 1.6 you could actually do 5man spraydown easily if they are stacked like B banana but in csgo it sometimes feels like u can kill 2-3 max and recoil fucks you up !

2013-07-21 18:31

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yep, I havent sprayed more than 3 guys in csgo yet, lol :D

2013-07-21 18:32

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cheats can't do more? :D ahaha

2013-07-21 18:34

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2013-07-21 18:33

aimpunch fucks you up* FTFY

2013-07-21 18:33

1.6 have biger hitboxes than csgo. In 1.6 if you shot him near head you will get head shot but in csgo is hard to get hit because of smaler hitboxes! 5eplay.com/uploadfile/2012/0322/20120322.. i.imgur.com/dD6E5.png

2013-07-21 18:47

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dude I know :D It's not cause of the hitboxes, it's the recoil that makes spraying 5man down very tough. And actually that part sometimes may be frustrating but atleast you can't see 1 guy shutting the whole team down now that often! Now you need even more skill, and when tagging is added you can 4sure show how good u are 1v5 =D

2013-07-21 18:50

wtf are you talking about, the csgo models are bulky and fat ...

2013-07-21 18:58

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Models maybe, but the hitboxes are smaller than in 1.6.

2013-07-21 19:28

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nope. in fact most hitboxes are a bit bigger in GO. the 1.6 models are about 30% smaller than the GO models. so if you compare them in pictures it looks like the hitboxes in 1.6 are bigger, but if you bring the models on the actual scale, the GO boxes are a bit smaller. anyway: people don't fail to spray down because of the hitboxes. that's bullshit. it's the stupid aimpunch and the missing tagging that make people struggle.

2013-07-22 00:46

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^ this dude got it.

2013-07-22 10:56

wrong, herrmann is correct

2013-07-22 09:24

in 1.6 you could do that because pistols were low as fuck against helmet and therefore you had lot of time to aim and spray without getting shot

2013-07-22 10:08

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vs ecos yeah for sure but when u went to spray against rifles I doubt you did 5man spray easily, someone always has luck to headshot you, lol.

2013-07-22 11:56

Micronn gonna be mad :D

2013-07-21 18:29

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actually he is mentioned at the beginning

2013-07-21 18:47

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Yes in video but not in news it's more important for me :)

2013-07-22 17:39

It looks great....

2013-07-21 18:30

n11111

2013-07-21 18:31

yes plz. more of this

2013-07-21 18:31

So, this only makes small movement changes? Thought there was more to it.

2013-07-21 18:34

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they tried to change movement so u could still jump on silo etc etc... they want to still keep the things u can do right now in csgo but make the movement less shit.

2013-07-21 18:35

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It makes the movement more sharp then. I thought it had something to do with bunny hoping.

2013-07-21 18:37

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Yeah.. they made that airaccelerate thing higher I think something was changed but when I tried it on new game I didn't see anything different in bhopping though =D Think they forgot to mentioned it? :D

2013-07-21 18:42

hate the recoil, movement would be better with new values.

2013-07-21 18:34

fairly sure this could help the game a lot =)

2013-07-21 18:35

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fairly agree with you

2013-07-21 18:36

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fairly disagree with you

2013-07-21 18:42

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fairly disagree with you

2013-07-21 18:54

cant tell the difference from the video, so can't comment on that, need to try myself. ok just went to try with bots and can't tell im hugely excited or anything like that, doesn't seems much different, except for airacceleration which is noticeable

2013-07-21 18:45

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server IP with these movement setttings: 92.48.122.194:32080

2013-07-21 18:44

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ok going to try now with people! thx

2013-07-21 18:46

feels a tiny bit slower? hard to say on dm though

2013-07-21 21:27

Thank you very much for posting this Tomi! :) Also thanks for all the feedback!

2013-07-21 18:42

You can't really tell the difference after watching it, go and try for yourself: 77.111.216.30:27015 144.76.92.250:27015 193.111.138.208:27015 92.48.122.194:32080 37.221.193.91:27015 27.50.71.198:27016

2013-07-21 18:46

#Supportmicronn2013 :D

2013-07-21 18:47

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Why would you support him, he doesnt care about the values, all he wants is his name on HLTV, he made that very clear

2013-07-21 19:05

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yes and you stole his work?

2013-07-21 19:12

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Get your facts straight before you jump to conclusions

2013-07-21 20:47

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Your picked values are bad, I can easily boycott them. Btw. without my work you will have nothing.

2013-07-22 17:40

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I think you're forgetting who taught you everything you know about this, also who started this entire project. The only thing you did, was follow instructions from M0rd0cK, without you we would have had the same results, the same turn out, but with much less drama and a lot less facepalming.

2013-07-23 05:21

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You "stole" they "helped me": m0rd0ck - a little only his thread jaj22 -forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost... Automatic - forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost... and thats it. My thread are not official news so I didn't mention them in there, but I can always do it. /end

2013-07-23 12:30

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Is this still all a part of your quest to getting your name on HLTV?

2013-07-23 13:13

Are you serious? Your first and last name are on the page, but somehow you forget to even mention micron. That and you are referred to as a pro (LMAO).

2013-07-21 19:28

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I both mention micron in the video and in the article I wrote. And as far as I am concerned, I am not the one who wrote the news.

2013-07-21 20:47

Maybe you can post all of this on your Steam profile to go with your quotes! You've made it!

2013-07-21 20:08

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Bret I dont know why you've been hostile towards me for so long, I really dont get the obsession. I'm trying to get this spread as much as possible, so we can get this fixed for the sake of us all. I've put every link I could find on my profile, making sure the first thing people see if they go on my steam profile is our project.

2013-07-21 20:51

fuck off

2013-07-21 20:50

Thanks, I appreciate it :)

2013-07-22 11:36

Like it :)

2013-07-21 18:48

Would love to see bhop in GO aswell

2013-07-21 18:50

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its very easy now with these values on those servers..

2013-07-21 19:00

how long will it take, until its implemented

2013-07-21 18:51

So, the new movement now more laggy and less responsive? I hate this things in games, especially in CS. Anyway there must be some servers to test it for some hours. One Australian server which always down is not enough.

2013-07-21 18:51

thanks micronn for your job ;)

2013-07-21 18:53

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Thanks, I appreciate it :)

2013-07-22 17:41

I didn't like it at all :-/

2013-07-21 18:56

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Same, and I feel awp will be overpowered with these new settings, it will be so easy to hold off an angle... Airaccelerate should be increased a lot more, and I think they should keep the friction and accelerate at the values they have now. It's fun to be able to peak/strafe around fast :)

2013-07-21 19:00

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i noticed this too, i almost hit every shot with awp!

2013-07-21 19:00

that's the whole point of the awp though... it's not like there's no way around that - have you seen the thickness of the smokes?

2013-07-21 19:02

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2013-07-21 19:04

2013-07-21 19:05

Well said, I agree. As I said it before if valve change the accel and friction it will fuck up the game balance..the awp and the autosnipers will be too OP because u cannot win a battle against an autosniper with this slow movement...also with some guns the movement is extremly slow like some shotguns so the players will not pick up those weapons...I think if valve apply those values it would be 2 steps back because they will need to fix 20 other things to get back the game and the weapon balance. So IMO airaccel ok change it..but dont touch the accel and friction..

2013-07-21 19:24

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Nah, its good with this value. Shotgun OP, and you're saying the awp and autosnipers will be too OP? That is just bullshit, first of all the game gets more competitive and more tactical, the second thing is the awper himself will also move slow after missing/killing because in most scenarios the awper needs to repositionate himself.

2013-07-21 19:34

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yeah its really tactical to buy an autosniper and just hold the angle because with this slow accel u will lost most of the battles against a player with autosniper.. The peaking is too slow and the autosniper..even a decent sniper will shot u down faster then u can shot one bullet..Also if someone hit u it slows u down but with this accel its just impossible to get behind the corner to safe.. I think those values will create more problems than we have now with go

2013-07-21 20:06

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if the attacker peeked with the current values, yeah they're a little bit faster, but at any skill, the awper should still kill him, it's not like you don't ever see awper's holding angles successfully atm...

2013-07-21 21:02

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thats not what Im saying..but with the current settings you can more easily trick the awper/autosniper with the peak... I feel like with the new values there is no chance to win a battle agains an autonoob or a decent sniper with ak/m4

2013-07-21 21:29

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that's the point, if you're dumb enough to peek in a spot when you suspect an awper is there, there is no way you should win that battle, realistically...

2013-07-21 22:03

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I really like to play with the awp but I think with the new values it will be too easy to hold angles..even a total noob will hit the shot on the peaker,,,but whatever.. u think those values are great and everything will be fine when valve implement them into the game...and I think that those values will fuck up many things in the game..I will be happy if your opinion became true but now Im really afraid...The time will show :)

2013-07-21 22:23

I'm not completely sure what people are saying when they say "slow movement". The only thing that is being changed is acceleration. The max speed you can run is unchanged.

2013-07-21 19:43

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My point is not about max speed..but the accel..your accel is slower with shoutguns then with the pistols or other weapons..so when you peak out with the shoutgun they will catch you too easily and also its hard to get to safe after a missed shot with this accel. Thats why I think players will not buy shoutguns

2013-07-21 19:59

the point of the change is to be able to hold angles and remove peekers advantage

2013-07-21 19:40

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2013-07-21 21:04

that's because you are an ADADA sprayer and abuse the retarded acceleration.

2013-07-21 19:01

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+1337

2013-07-21 19:01

+10000

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2013-07-21 19:18

+1,true that is gtr

2013-07-21 19:40

2013-07-21 19:46

lol comment but really I wouldn't call it abuse, you do what you do to win

2013-07-21 19:57

so true

2013-07-21 19:59

lol

2013-07-21 20:06

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you love using ADADAD and enjoy winning every tournament. with these changes it will hinder you're individual play style and NiP as a whole due to the indirect AWP buff which results in the effectiveness of rifle centric teams being nerfed even more on top of the original ADADA nerf. but you should probably accept this change is for the greater good of the game and realize that you not winning an event or two will increase competition and interest in csgo. /rant

2013-07-21 21:20

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GeT_RiGhT average round - Hold the opposite position that my team are playing, don't move or make any noise, wait until my team has planted and are nearly dead, run up behind the enemies, hold down mouse1 and smash head on keyboard. YAY I HAVE POSITIVE K/D RATIO.

2013-07-21 21:24

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GTR zero skiller ?

2013-07-21 21:58

lol of course you don't like the change when you are one of the guys who runs and shoots ( which is fucking annoying to play against tbh )

2013-07-21 21:49

GeT_RaT like ADADADAD spray

2013-07-22 19:22

2013-07-21 20:15

burnnnnnnnnn

2013-07-22 00:25

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2013-07-22 13:24

the king of ADAD has spoken

2013-07-21 19:03

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+1 hahah

2013-07-21 19:10

Xizt reaction : facebook.com/OfficialXizt/posts/58001659..

2013-07-21 19:13

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Very strange.. I saw xizt's ADADADA much more times but not Get_Right's. :D

2013-07-21 19:32

Alright, let's not do it then.

2013-07-21 19:18

who cares if the game sucks, if ur best at it and get the money right?

2013-07-21 20:30

thank you! seemed like i was the only one.

2013-07-21 20:49

i feel this advantages good aimers,can you explain why you do not bless these mouvment changes?

2013-07-21 21:08

Give it a chance on a 5v5 match, i bet you'll change your mind :)

2013-07-21 21:17

dropped a few points in my account -.-

2013-07-21 21:57

explain why ?

2013-07-22 13:23

i.imgur.com/e56a3.gif

2013-07-22 16:02

movementt aweeesomeeeeeeeeeeee go update now valveee!!

2013-07-21 18:56

92.48.122.194:32080 test

2013-07-21 18:56

good changes ! this is what the game needs , we dont want people running around getting kills its not cs anymore.

2013-07-21 19:01

shit game with new and old movements.

2013-07-21 19:01

valve fuck the game in the last movement recoil gg bye game

2013-07-21 19:02

will it help with no reg and teleports on ping differences and inet play experience in general?

2013-07-21 19:06

1 reply

2013-07-22 00:30

Seems good, the game it self is too fast right now you have more advantage to run and aim then just take a position and peak.

2013-07-21 19:10

it would be a great change !

2013-07-21 19:11

i would like to play pub not deathmatch with new settings do some have ip?

2013-07-21 19:13

Here's a server for you guys to test the these new values: 188.165.235.196:27019

2013-07-21 19:14

i didnt like it :x

2013-07-21 19:14

So funny that most of the people who complain about this movement value are most likely adad sprayers/accelartion abusers

2013-07-21 19:16

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or maybe they got used to it and know how to use it?

2013-07-21 19:29

2 replies

Read, 'Most likely'

2013-07-21 19:35

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im reading it ok

2013-07-21 19:37

Because you're forced to play this way? There is no way you can keep up with ADADADers standing still.

2013-07-21 22:33

i wish the community would spend this kind of effort on pointing out bugs and technical issues instead of gameplay opinions

2013-07-21 19:17

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are you serious? the community did this all the time.. hundreds of threads have been made about bugs and other issues on the steam forums. the majority of them are ignored.

2013-07-21 19:19

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but how often are such detailed and great videos showing side by side comparisons actually made?

2013-07-21 20:44

Well the biggest part of the community now is not satisfied with how the gameplay is now, so to get a great and big community that supports this game 200% and want to spend this kind of effort on pointing out bugs and technical issues we need to change the gameplay I think

2013-07-21 19:22

Yes, because in the long run it's more important to fix a bug than overall game play. Excellent point.

2013-07-21 19:24

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2013-07-21 20:25

the movement issue is almost entirely opinion based. how many people in 1.3 supported the new movement when 1.4 came out?

2013-07-21 20:46

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So this exercise is entirely counter-productive? People have taken the initiative to bring forward a range of values, altering movement, and so far the vast majority seem to have taken a liking to it. If you don't consider this to be a change that will only better the over all experience of the game then I don't know what to say to you.

2013-07-21 21:50

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research like this is never counter-productive.... but movement to this degree of being "better or not" is entirely opinion based and something that affects every single aspect of the game

2013-07-23 07:13

This actually feels a lot better

2013-07-21 19:19

ip dm pls??

2013-07-21 19:20

I agree with what their definition of what cs REALLY is,until i try new values,i cant say much on the feel of the game,video doesnt really do it justice,but it seems AD crap will not be as effective.

2013-07-21 19:22

This new movement is better then old movement and would be much better if they just a little speedy up, but it's not bad.

2013-07-21 19:27

It would be rly nice!

2013-07-21 19:28

Tested this values and there are my thoughts: 1. Holding angles with AWP become much easier. I mean now AWP is really danger stuff in defense(CT). That means when you play as attack(T) you have to become more strategic by trying to avoid .338 Lapua Magnum in your ass or head(*there should be joke about the ass instead of the head at some people*). 2. Peeking with AWP become little harder but still possible. Bcuz you have less acceleration to fast peek-crouch-shoot. Dunno how it will work in 5on5 game(didn't see difference @DM). 3. Gunfights are more skillful. You have to play much more safe but not get in gunfight alone versus 2 and more enemies. 4. Pistol rounds become lil easier for CT-side bcuz of tagging. Now you can't just 5-people-rush at same place that easy. That's it for now. :)

2013-07-21 19:30

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2013-07-22 00:06

this is going to effect GeT_RiGhT.

2013-07-21 19:36

5 replies

Too bad for him

2013-07-21 19:37

It would affect basically everyone playing the game. Not sure how it feels, haven't tried it yet, but wouldn't it change the gameplay too much? It makes sense do to little adjustments, but changing the style of play so drastically is not the best idea.

2013-07-21 19:50

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Note little difference, but the difference you notice is good

2013-07-21 22:06

of course it affects everyone, but I'm sure GT will feel it more than others :)

2013-07-21 22:32

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Because he has learned to play a given game, mastered it, unlike the majority of people here, and now the majority is trying to change it to their liking? Game is broken anyway, no point trying to fix.

2013-07-22 00:35

This new movement is very interesting. 1. AWP will be more dangerous. 2. If sniper will be more dangerous, teams in Terrorist will have better tactics. So game will be more tactical. 3. ADADAD players will be "dead". Finally. Love that changes.

2013-07-21 19:39

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I think markeloff is going to be a lot better now too, don't ya? :)

2013-07-21 19:41

+1337

2013-07-21 19:49

good thing!

2013-07-21 19:40

GREAT WORK GUYS! #ValveFixThis

2013-07-21 19:43

Feels great! ;)

2013-07-21 19:43

5 replies

nice !

2013-07-21 19:50

ye!!! :)

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2013-07-21 20:13

BIG Pimp

2013-07-21 22:07

Where is the like button ? ^_^

2013-07-21 19:44

i like the new values, sometimes its hard to even spot enemy and you are dead because of the fast peaking.

2013-07-21 19:51

Actually looks good - well done Valve if you make these default.

2013-07-21 19:53

2 replies

Valve has nothing to do with this.

2013-07-21 19:56

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if you make these default :D - Obviously Valve have nothing to do with this, they love their slow dull movement - But hopefully they do make these default.

2013-07-21 19:58

They probably need to increase the air accelerate.

2013-07-21 19:55

Oh god, dont fucking make the movement more like 1.6 , already had that for 13 years, time to move on fuckers.

2013-07-21 19:56

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lol? CS:GO youtube.com/watch?v=RLiUb-CTstw vs 1.6 youtube.com/watch?v=W66vA3pZXKU Same player

2013-07-21 20:00

all sprayer say its shit, people who dont spray say its gr8 l0l

2013-07-21 20:00

2 replies

can't agree more

2013-07-21 20:10

2013-07-21 20:26

can't wait for those values to be default. that's the only reason I am not uninstalling the game. I am tired of cs:go dynamic. I've been playing it 1200h and I am slowly returning to 1.6 (which I have played for years with the same pleasure)

2013-07-21 20:13

To me personally the game became more appealing, when the agressive playstyle started to pay off more than in 1.6. Not a huge fan of these (possible) changes. I'm not the biggest sprayer in the world, but I like the possibility of peeking and not being shut down by the AWP or any other gun holding an angle for that matter.

2013-07-21 20:19

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Ofcourse nobody likes to be shut down by someone holding an angle, however this is where the more strategic approach comes in. There is a reason why you have smokes and flashes, its to prevent things like that from happening, getting shut down by an awp that is :)

2013-07-21 20:26

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The developers wanted to make the game faster, which they succeeded in I think, these changes would just make it a lot slower, because the first fragger's job would be so much harder. I just don't see it being good in any way to change a game so drastically after a year of tournaments, it's not very good for eSports.

2013-07-21 20:28

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I get what you're saying, however these are NOT drastic changes - They are slight adjustments. You can still peek, you just cant exploit it. Counter-Strike has always been a tactical shooter and not a fast paced one. These changes will make the game more tactical. And I personally dont think they have had success with the increased acceleration.

2013-07-21 20:32

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I'm not talking about acceleration, I'm talking about the gameplay in general (nerfing molotovs etc.). Define "exploit" then - I mean, did the people in 1.6 "exploit" holding an angle as well? It just seems that the advantage was moved the other way around, that's basically it. Btw. again, I haven't tried it, I'm criticising the general idea.

2013-07-21 20:40

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I know it may seem the advantage has been moved to the other side, however this is not the case. It has balanced it for both sides and made it less biased. You should definately try it! I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

2013-07-21 20:43

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I will get to that when I stop getting pissed off at comments of people who only notice the change in ADAD spray :D

2013-07-21 20:45

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Sounds good! Check your inbox please :)

2013-07-21 20:58

I think what you're not understanding is that right now in GO, there is always an advantage to the person who is peeking. It doesn't matter if the person is peeking an awper who is miles away, the person who peeks first has that first shot opportunity due to the peeker's advantage. Balancing it out means that it is now fair for people who are holding angles, giving them a fair chance of winning that battle. It isn't about destroying the ability to out-peek someone in CSGO; it's about finding the balance between the two.

2013-07-21 22:19

from a spectator point of view , watching games is horrible, people running around corners and getting kills.

2013-07-21 20:27

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I actually like that more even as a spectator, more than waiting for people to set up with their flashes and everything to make a strat happen and successfuly open a site. Like this, it's way more interesting at least for me. Maybe somebody likes the strategical aspect more, I get that.

2013-07-21 20:30

it is, that's why the game needs to be balanced, and tweaked, im sure more interesting matches will fallow

2013-07-21 20:30

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hey yo (im hers from steamforums), uhm have you talked to valve about other things like making bhoping viable and increased tagging? because yeah the movement values are good but it will be slower and you wont have a chance at all to fight back if you are locked or tagged by the opponent. In 1.6 if we did a fail a quick long jump could give you a 1-2 seconds chance to fight back. it is a factor that should be addressed along with movement values. you can pm me if you don't want to answer me in public

2013-07-21 22:16

i agree im a fan of the faster gameplay as well. i think most people are confusing the term "different" strategies with "less" strategies

2013-07-21 20:49

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Yeah... Having a guy who always goes for first frags is also a strategy. It doesn't only have to be a bunch of people standing with nades each of them having specific timing etc.

2013-07-21 22:34

2 replies

this comment gave me cancer

2013-07-22 01:18

1 reply

Woah!

2013-07-22 01:29

Valve if u make neo fly again like in old times, i ll buy this game.

2013-07-21 20:23

Then your not a fan of counter strike these changes would drastically improve the game

2013-07-21 20:23

I dont like those movementvalues :( People come around corners and oneclick you while walking, at least it feels like this happens all the time. Same with adadadad, it still is doable. Only thing what will happen is, that people have to kinda re-learn the game :S

2013-07-21 20:27

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you probably played with the current official values...because what you descripe is exactly what happens since the release of GO. also it looks like you're just afraid of change

2013-07-22 01:20

update now pls!! this movements are awesome

2013-07-21 20:32

These values would be a nice way to slow down the game and punish player's that just full charge, removing peeker's advantage would also be another step but I won't cross my finger's on that yet.

2013-07-21 20:39

2 replies

If you "just full charge" nothing actually changes. Top speed remains the same, shitty netcode remains.

2013-07-22 00:44

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You're not entirely wrong but it does help when people walk up to a corner and quick peek you extremely fast.

2013-07-22 07:56

Game feels like i'm ice skating still but the only difference is that the peeker's advantage is removed.

2013-07-21 20:44

eu server up?

2013-07-21 20:50

love it

2013-07-21 20:51

I didn't like it, I doubt that the people that say "CSGO DEADENED" will switch games just because of it. Thats how the game will be affected by those changes, if Valve make them official: - AWP will be OP again. - Jumping will feel unrealistic and loose. - The game will be slower, and aiming will be easier overall. And thats too bad, at least for me.

2013-07-21 20:53

i like that the peeker's advantage is removed/reduced with these values. but i don't like how it feels like skating. i can play nhl 13 if i want to play a skating game. with these values i have less control. when i go right and decide to go left it still goes right (slides) for a while. i don't need ADADAD spam but crisp & responsive movement is important to me. tagging is welcomed though

2013-07-21 21:01

It will be an update in-game or just a commands applied to servers? Cuz I don't get it a bit.

2013-07-21 21:09

2 replies

They're trying to push valve too release these values as an actual in-game update, and not just a server based one.

2013-07-22 07:36

1 reply

thanks

2013-07-22 11:57

Scream may like this

2013-07-21 21:31

Like this!

2013-07-21 21:34

shit and copypasted work. #isupportmicron2013

2013-07-21 21:43

That's it ... bring more changes ... bring more playerz ... finnaly something interesting (silencer - movements)

2013-07-21 22:06

This will make FPS less valuable, and make game better for low pc players :)))

2013-07-21 22:16

lookin good :) cant wait for this patch, no noobs running like a bots... :))))))

2013-07-21 22:27

1 reply

haha agree

2013-07-22 00:07

if they adjust the movement so you can duck/bhop without having peeker's advantage and add the flyback headshot animations this game would be really good.

2013-07-21 22:35

cant recognise any differences

2013-07-21 22:43

I prefer the "faster, more aggressive" version of the game. if this is what you want to change I just hope it stays the same.

2013-07-21 23:06

game was harder than 1.6.. so lets fucking make the game easier... cause so many dumb kidz whining...

2013-07-21 23:43

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p90+ADADADA iz ya stylah?

2013-07-22 01:36

now lets try to pick up textures from 1.6 to cs:go, nerds will be happy

2013-07-21 23:49

Kinda cool, it's hard to hit headshots with that small hitboxes.

2013-07-22 00:05

I think movement is fine as it is. Slow it down and the game will be even less exciting than it is now

2013-07-22 01:23

3 replies

running speed stays the same..

2013-07-22 01:23

1 reply

I know but I enjoy the acceleration as it is. Personally I think it feels sluggish

2013-07-22 01:25

cs is a tactical shooter not a fucking quake mod.

2013-08-21 20:08

Tested and don't like, CS:GO game play is slow at it is, why slow it down more. ADADAD isn't fixed with this btw

2013-07-22 01:24

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sv_friction "4.1" sv_accelerate "5.2" sv_airaccelerate "16" its awesome.

2013-07-24 03:37

1. I prefer these values over the current ones! 2. I prefer 4/5 over the ones suggested. The arguments why the acceleration should be even lower than in CSS and 1.6 are flawed: - Yes, 1.6 has smaller models BUT the maps got almost the same proportion in GO compared to 1.6/CSS (the distances are almost identical). And this is the only important thing here. - All jumps that are possible with your values are also possible with 4/5. At least I haven't found any jump that doesn't work anymore. And even if such a jump exists: You should create the maps around the movement, and not vice versa. Why I prefer the 1.6/CSS values over your values: The acceleration is already low enough in 1.6/CSS. In 1.6 we even had to use double-duck to peak faster. I don't like having a even slower acceleration without having the option of double-ducking. While 4/5 (CSS/1.6) takes the same time to reach full speed like the current GO values, your values take more time to reach full speed. Also this would be a good compromise between the current values and your values. Anyway: Your values > the current values.

2013-07-22 01:32

It's not like you'r ruining anything.

2013-07-22 01:46

WOW THIS IS GOOD>> NOW WE CAN PLAY IT MORE LIKE 1.6

2013-07-22 02:19

2 replies

Mentality like this is whats stopping such changes from taking place....

2013-07-22 09:34

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ok.. just cuz i typed in caps. doesnt mean I didnt know what I am typing.. tell me about change? Knowing how much damage u did to ur enemy after u die? able to chat to ur team mates after death etc... lets get realistic.. ?

2013-07-22 16:53

I really like the changes, Sick to death of noobs running and gunning I had put up a couple servers for testing the new values and i went away for a week i spent last night re-installing them and setting them back up So i am sorry for the guys who have been trying to connect and could not. No idea why they were going down They are back up and running great Here are 2 Australian Servers running the new settings 20 Slot Classic Casual 27.50.71.198:27016 128tic 10 slot Classic comp 27.50.71.202:27015 password "pug" 128tic Cheers enjoy

2013-07-22 02:58

It's simple, they don't need to fix the movement. -> Remove the aimpunch, repair the deagle and CSGO is fixed

2013-07-22 03:52

1 reply

you're kidding right?

2013-07-22 09:26

how could anyone look at these changes and not want them, it looks like the game is 100x better u can actually hold angles

2013-07-22 05:09

After i tried the new movement settings i would firmly say that if it was in the game i would never look back. I find that peaking around corners are too fast atm and the new settings are heaps better for many reaons eg. ADAD spam, Peakers advantage and few other ones. Reducing it just makes movement feel more smooth in CSGO.

2013-07-22 07:34

This is shit. I hope valve doesnt change current values to this.

2013-07-22 09:57

remove the fucking jumping penalty asap

2013-07-22 10:14

let me sum this thread up some people love it some people hate it some people think its ok

2013-07-22 10:21

1 reply

the whole majority wants it

2013-07-22 12:37

The new movement values look good to me.

2013-07-22 10:24

Just tested with them against bots, seem miles better. I wouldn't mind more air acceleration/control though, but as far as being able to peak & fall back into angles goes, it's MILES better. Need somewhere to play mixes with these settings.

2013-07-22 11:27

i dont care, i love the settings as is, but its gonna be even easier to pwn ppl with 1 shoths so fine by me. AWP/SNIPERS gonna be OP thou. gonna take away the skill 2 hold angles, easy now, even easier with the new movement. if u cant hold angles now, u are too slow. even moooore kills for me and M&MK! lallelarsson.com

2013-07-22 11:40

adada is the death of this game

2013-07-22 12:03

the only problem is if u hold a corner as ct u have an advantage in 1,6 but now the running terror has this advantage. They need to fix this. Thats why this game is soo random. U cant play more tactical beacuse someone running through the map has the advantage

2013-07-22 15:20

3 replies

how a runner has an advantage?

2013-07-22 16:48

2 replies

He can notice you faster.

2013-07-22 19:59

1 reply

that sounds strange, could you explain?

2013-07-22 21:40

nicenice

2013-07-22 15:27

#276 he doesnt, only if u cant aim or have any reactions :) 2 out of 10 tries, maby the runner have some luck. I shouldnt call it advantage. Take a look at any good team/players, nobody almost never runs. And if they do, they get sprayed down or aimed ;) like i said, for me it doesnt mather, i just dont want anybody 2 bunnyjump and/or stop when i jump

2013-07-22 17:21