VeryGames pull out of ESEA finals

23-7-2013 17:39

VeryGames have announced that they have decided against attending ESEA 14's Global Finals next month.

The French team finished in second position during the regular season of the European league, thus earning a place at the global finals, which will take place from August 16th to 19th in Dallas, United States.

This has been, without a doubt, a very troublesome season, with some teams having already disband and others being unable to play after changing players when the rosters in the league were already locked.

VeryGames have now confirmed that they will not attending the LAN finals, citing the high cost of plane tickets during the summer as the reason for skipping the American tournament.

"First of all, we are deeply disappointed not to be able to defend our chances in the LAN finals for ESEA. The team was in good shape and we hoped to show a good performance. We also have great respect for the work around this competition which contributes greatly to the development of Counter-Strike in Europe and the USA.

Unfortunately for this edition, the final have been planned for the heart of summer vacation, and has resulted in doubling the price of airline tickets compared to the last season. For information purposes, the cost of travel exceeds $ 12,000 for our team. I alerted RegnaM, ESEA Community Manager form Europe, at the beginning of June so that the organization could anticipate this problem and proposes an alternative. Unfortunately, no solution has been found and we are now at the point where we cannot attend at all.

I hope with all my heart that the final will still take place in the best ways and that we will be able to work together to ensure that this situation does not happen again in the future."

"First of all, we are deeply disappointed not to be able to defend our chances in the LAN finals for ESEA," VG manager Jerome "NiaK" Sudries said.

"The team was in good shape and we hoped to show a good performance. We also have great respect for the work around this competition which contributes greatly to the development of Counter-Strike in Europe and the USA.

"Unfortunately for this edition, the final have been planned for the heart of summer vacation, and has resulted in doubling the price of airline tickets compared to the last season.

"For information purposes, the cost of travel exceeds $ 12,000 for our team. I alerted RegnaM, ESEA Community Manager form Europe, at the beginning of June so that the organization could anticipate this problem and proposes an alternative. Unfortunately, no solution has been found and we are now at the point where we cannot attend at all.

"I hope with all my heart that the final will still take place in the best ways and that we will be able to work together to ensure that this situation does not happen again in the future."

It is still unclear who will replace VeryGames, but there are not many candidates: outside the top 4, only Epsilon, ex-n!faculty (now known as Playing Ducks) and k1ck have active rosters.

Right now, rumours suggest that Ninjas in Pyjamas are the only European team who will fly to the United States, but there has not been any confirmation from league officials yet.

ESEA further state that VeryGames will most likely not be able to attend next season's league, as teams who cannot attend the LAN finals are not invited back for the following season.

excepted

2013-07-23 17:38

4 replies

wat?

2013-07-23 18:01

1 reply

Lol

2013-07-23 18:09

expected

2013-07-23 18:37

yep, expected

2013-07-23 18:52

:/ not good at all

2013-07-23 17:39

12k to attend fuark

Hope frods team get their spot for lan finals

USA would have raped them anyway

2013-07-23 17:40

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You are probably one of the most retarded person at this forum. Good job

2013-07-23 17:46

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USA raping them in travel costs.

2013-07-23 18:56

this

2013-07-23 20:56

hmmmm How about no ?! I can't wait to see the ALL STAR game for deciding seeds^^ : EU(NIP) vs USA :p

2013-07-23 17:47

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*EU (NiP+AD) vs USA

2013-07-23 17:54

AD attending?

2013-07-23 18:17

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I don't think so.

2013-07-23 18:54

they can't... rosters are locked, ESEA won't allow additions.

2013-07-23 20:55

That's what I thought

2013-07-23 21:10

Lol k

2013-07-23 18:10

Just like last time right? ;)

2013-07-23 18:31

dunno if its stupidity or sarcasm, meh, im gonna go with sarcasm!

2013-07-23 18:33

Well I doubt many will be able to travel to USA so ESEA is going to remove all team for next season ?

2013-07-23 17:41

The main reason for the high price is because it's in the summer, I presume that EU teams will be able to attend the events if they're not in the summer, just like the last esea.

2013-07-23 17:43

Yes I agree, however if NiP are the only one to travel, it would be a shame to see all the current teams being kicked for being unable to go to the finals

ESEA won't ban the EU teams not attending... if they do they basically kill their EU scene.

2013-07-23 17:44

Leetway invite league inc.

2013-07-23 17:49

12 000 $, WTF ???

2013-07-23 17:45

What's so surprising ?

2013-07-23 23:45

Is it me or is the text at the beginning a little bit small? nevermind.

only NIP for ESEA ? (

There is a $39,500 prize money if they increase it a bit for example on $42000 and split it into $18 $14 $10k. More teams will decide to attend this event.

BAN THIS FCKING VG ...

2013-07-23 17:52

retard detected !!!

2013-07-23 17:57

Is it sense to play if u arent going on Lan? ;l

2013-07-23 21:50

Yes it is, because you expect to find solutions in the mean time. You do remember that ESEA is played over several months yes ?

2013-07-23 23:46

Are you really that dumb?

2013-07-24 05:58

Never go full retard, its dangerous.

2013-07-23 18:03

Sad, VG are in top shape! Does not send a good sign towards the other teams that one of the best teams in Europe can't affort the event. hopefully Europe will get 4 teams to represent them. Maybe ESEA should concider lowering the price pool and adding a traveling bonus that they give to each team attending...

If VG cant afford to send the 2nd best team in terms of results, i dont see how anyone else can send a team of losers. Maybe astana dragons can afford, iunno the situation there.

2013-07-23 18:22

I do think that they got the money, they just find it too expensive for a LAN. It is so sad that esea didn't move the date and i hope every other team will follow VG and do not attend. Lets see if they really wants to ban all 12 teams :D

2013-07-23 19:58

This . yeah ofc VG got the money for the ESEA . But the prize is far too expensive despite it's Esea . Even if you are second you would earn back what you put on the table (hotel taxi food). We really do need major event with bigger cash prize or a major professional league like on LoL they got LCS NA & Eu & OGN (korea) and Tecent league (china ) + 1 taiwan malaysia . It's really professional league (they are paid for it by the league )

2013-07-23 22:59

wow nicely done ESEA, scene is dying and desperate for europe fresh air, and still cant negotiate better date, then top it off with banning verygames for all future events..... unbelievable . talk about shooting yourself in the foot and then in the head. somebody tell them to take a reality check and what the situation is lol

2013-07-23 17:53

where did it say they were banned from all future events?

2013-07-23 18:11

They didn't, but they say VG can't play next season because of this. news.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comment..

2013-07-23 18:46

normally it's a ban.. but I highly down they'll ban the EU teams. They have a valid excuse..

2013-07-23 20:58

The Summer event needs a much larger prize pool.

Next news Astona Dragons are in to replace VG at ESEA :0

2013-07-23 17:56

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They didn't compete on the current season, I guess they shouldn't be allowed to go.

2013-07-23 18:05

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they're special...they are allowed to go no matter what the rules say... Those are not some kids who will fail anyway, those are SUPERSTARS!, so... ;)

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so... fucking what?

Changing the rules for a semi-mediocre team seems reasonable.

2013-07-23 18:15

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...im just messing around...cmmon... of course they can't just go and replace VG, but if that'd happened I wouldn't be surprised though :)

2013-07-23 18:25

Did you mean: come on OR common? OT: You can never know, ESEA has it's own ways.

2013-07-23 18:44

semi-mediocre... tell me this future knowledge you have on a team that has not even competed yet.

2013-07-23 18:57

As a Canadian you must know that an elk in the woods isn't a really big threat to humans. If it was in a city, it would be. In this case, the elk in the woods could be assumed to be a semi-mediocre threat. We don't really know, we humans tend to assume things going to way as they have in the past.

2013-07-23 19:08

That analogy is lacking of all coherent thought and is a disgrace to the Finnish people.

2013-07-23 23:58

Fuck you, I will fucking kill you if you ever talk to him like that again you little shit

2013-07-24 15:14

they will fail hard

2013-07-23 21:04

+1 for "semi-mediocre team"

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Someone has unjust hatred for a team... Na`Vi fangirl perhaps?

2013-07-23 23:55

Na'Vi????? Are u serious????? NiP, VG, LDLC brah

2013-07-23 23:59

So 1 good team and two shitty source teams cool

2013-07-25 01:56

lol, ur obviously 1 pixel sixer, go home kid, it's over, no more 1.6, no more Na'Vi and VP

2013-07-25 12:22

I love how saucers feel that '1 pixel sixer' is some sort of insult? The game is dated looking, it came out in 2000. At the time it was one of the best looking games in its genre so what are you trying to insinuate? That people that enjoyed 1.6 didn't realize that it is not a graphically intense game? Well no shit it is more than 13 years old... Bravo. It was the game play that mattered, something that CSS did not enjoy. That being said I enjoy CS:GO now and I have moved on without issue. Astana Dragons will soon rule this game along with NiP and the only CSS team left mentioning will be VG.

2013-07-26 16:48

I didn't want to offend 1.6, my whole point of this discussion with you, is that Astana will not pwn. They are just strong (not for me) on paper, and they have alot of CIS fans (yeah, I hate their yelling like 'navi top 1' etc. etc.) - that makes them overrated, and maybe they were good in 1.6, but not in GO. My honest opinion. PS - I'm not saucer, I never played sauce, just 1.6 before GO, and tbh I don't play GO now, just watching whats new.

2013-07-26 19:43

umad?

2013-07-23 21:05

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Epsilon deserve this spot

2013-07-23 17:58

lpkane could fly to europe with his private jet and pick up all the european teams, but he's too busy giving flying "lessons" to random sloots.

Would be retarded if ESEA banned them from next season, they should have just delayed the LAN finals a month or so until the travel costs dropped

youtube.com/watch?v=-P7AS0OhNAs

sad

2013-07-23 18:06

teams dead, scene dead, dream dead.

2013-07-23 18:14

Easy for NiP as always! :D

2013-07-23 18:18

It's a sad sad situation

2013-07-23 18:23

Thats what happens when you try to put the NA and Euro scene together. Just wont happen.. This -> ESEA further state that VeryGames will most likely not be able to attend next season's league, as teams who cannot attend the LAN finals are not invited back for the following season. <- Is also BS

2013-07-23 18:27

It's retarded that esea still holds their competitions in US when they know EU is clearly the best choice. Top Teams are all from europe with all do respect ofcourse to the US CS scene. + its hard for Ex-soviet union countries to get visa's to US in time. EU countries are cheaper and easier for everyone to travel to. The sad part is NiaK informed RegnaM in june and you'd think regnam would understand as an ex-vg player.

2013-07-23 18:28

I'm pretty sure only 2 american teams (Curse and Quantic) could afford the trip to Europe.

2013-07-23 19:31

the point is to help grow the scene in the NA... besides Curse and Quantic, no team can make the trip to Europe. The euros can come here, make some money, visit a continent they rarely go to for events all while helping grow our scene. ESEA is a great event and a great idea, it's just they picked awful dates for the LAN. Should be end of August, beginning of September when peak season is over to be honest.

2013-07-23 21:00

The american scene needs to grow for csgo to go further and develop. Yet its very costly for the best teams to travel and the margin of profit would go low.

2013-07-24 00:34

cs:go need more prize money gg

That prize is ridiculous)))

2013-07-23 18:35

esea is fucking garbage. I cant wait until that shit company dies.

NiP vs North America

2013-07-23 18:36

stupid esea

lan dodgers

2013-07-23 18:41

Offtopic: When is the ESEA case going to be handled in court?

2013-07-23 18:45

youtube.com/watch?v=8ClPfVeq0H4

2013-07-23 19:35

Not sure why ESEA cant change the dates when the situation is like this, this will hurt their viewing numbers (which is the most important reason for organising a tourney) alot. Hope to see a statement on why their not changing dates.

I would assume they already have a place booked / sponsor booths booked etc. etc it is not that easy to simply move a big event.

2013-07-23 19:03

Yeah thats prolly the reason, but pretty bad research on ESEAs behalf when half the teams cant afford to attend.

2013-07-23 19:11

Agreed

2013-07-23 23:47

Nip will take easy money

2013-07-23 18:53

The sad this is that Epsilon, ex-n!faculty and k1ck are not going to travel either, and will be kicked too... KICK EVERYONEEEEEEEEE !!

No, they won't. Originally, they've finished under top4, what means they haven't qualified for lan finals. And ESEA shouldn't kick them just because they have declined the invite as replacement team.

2013-07-23 19:36

At least people will now understand why so few American/Canadian teams travel overseas. The cost are ridiculous and most of the time the first prize doens't even cover travel cost... :/

to play it in august isnt a big help :/

2013-07-23 19:29

I dont think many organisations would be willing to pay 12k Dollars .. So i understand.

Expected.

2013-07-23 19:12

airline rip offs lol :D...quite expected this though :(

2013-07-23 19:18

This was indeed expected, if ESEA organisation are dumb enough to not pay attention to gamer needs, this is what they deserverd.... Who will attend next european qualifier ? From those which team will be able to spend 12k euros to send their team there ? Beside NiP which organisation ( in Europe ) is able to spend so much money on a single tournament ? Stop this joke please. Or rename the tournament as American Final( south and north america ). Such a "me myself and i" american typical behaviour.

2013-07-23 19:41

"North American championships" would fit?

2013-07-23 19:44

There will be south american team i guess. Any asian ? Have no clue about the fly cost from this part of the world to N.A. in August.

2013-07-23 19:47

n222 expected

2013-07-23 19:48

2013-07-23 19:51

first #1 picshare.ru/uploads/120905/oZ0s559ftR.gi..

2013-07-23 20:45

None of the teams will be present expect NiP. 2nd place = 4k€, average price from EU = 10k€;... Expect you are first, you loose money. And everyone know that NiP secure the 1st place. So : Ninjas In Pyjamas Team VeryGames Wont go Team-LDLC Wont go VirtusPRO No team Anexis eSports Wont go EpsilonRazer wont go nfaculty wont go ESC-ICY BOX Missing one player Natus Vincere Missing two player k1ck eSports Club CSGO Wont go fnatic No team Copenhagen Wolves Wont go okay.

Anexis has no team either

2013-07-23 21:22

Daaamnnn .. Seriously CS:Go is goooooooooing dooooooooown!

2013-07-23 22:06

doesnt matter, NiP is enough to represent europe, as they will most likely just walk away with #1

2013-07-23 21:21

ESEA: Increase the prize pot by 20k so VG can attend. End of problem. Help the game, you can afford it and you've done enough dumb shit this year. Peace

2013-07-23 21:28

Lpcoin too busy counting his money to hear anyone

2013-07-23 22:15

good call, they wouldn't have won shit anyways.

2013-07-23 22:03

that's not the point.. It's about competition. Did you see the euro teams attending ESEA LAN? It's only NiP.. and a bunch of NA teams. Plus you forget VG was the closest to beat NiP for the first 6 months of their domination. They were #2 in ESEA EU Invite this season til they dropped out. Please don't try to depict them as a bad team like some HLTV retard.

did I fucking say that they are bad? I just said they won't win shit, cus nip is on another level.

2013-07-24 16:57

@swe_troll So you can predict things before this even happens ? You can make money whith this work on it.

2013-07-23 22:05

calm down napoleon

2013-07-24 00:08

If ESEA care about viewers they should invite Astana Dragons

2013-07-23 22:08

Is it true the maps will be Fy_iceworld and de_simpson Y/N??

2013-07-23 22:40

mother fker almost fell of my chair lol

2013-07-23 23:03

why they dont go by ship or swimming( FrankerZ )

2013-07-23 23:00

najs amejzing

2013-07-23 23:26

esea's rules are old and very rigid, they make it very difficult for invite teams to be able to make it. For instance, when dazed decided to quit csgo for cod and left the roster, his team team was #2 seed in NA invite (and still is) and his teammates had the opportunity to remake Fully Torqued with steel for the LAN. ESEA said no, you do not have enough roster changing spots. The Virtus Pro roster team on ESEA could have their leader change name to Astana Dragons and get the whole team in there for the LAN since they are #4 seed EU but nope, not enough roster changing spots. Truly idiotic

2013-07-23 23:30

eckspeckted

Solution, run separate EU and NA lans or do it all online...simple yet effective

2013-07-24 00:31

No VeryGames, no Virtus Pro, no Navi, no ESC... no fun?

2013-07-24 01:01

online - not imposible ) Organizers of all cs go tornaments just need more minerals ))

2013-07-24 01:02

Valve do everything to make this game died. As in the time it happened with quake, by the fault of the company ID software.

2013-07-24 01:06

Get an airline company as a sponsor ESEA, so the teams can get cheaper flight tickets. Problem solved.

2013-07-24 01:14

how would that benefit any airline?

2013-07-24 01:19

uhhh when did season 14 even start? i thought they just played the esea lan and nip won? :S

No money? -Ex6tenZ +OverDrive

2013-07-24 01:23

This season 14 gonna be as shit, gj stupid Americans, bravo!

2013-07-24 01:50

Yes, and it's clearly the American's fault that these teams can't afford to travel to the US. Stay biased you low life.

2013-07-24 04:38

And whose decision was it set the LAN finals to the middle of Summer? Because any adult with a functioning brain knows that travelling in mid summer is expensive as fuck. Also it's not that they can't afford it, what's the point of travelling to a LAN where the expenses of the travel+accomodation are pretty close to the first prize? It's not worth the risk.

2013-07-24 06:12

For about 6 straight years Australia paid this or more to send a team to Europe even though we knew they weren't a chance in hell at getting any money. Toughen up VG and take that risk for the 20 grand that you actually have a chance at winning!

2013-07-24 03:21

I just checked the airfrance website, and the round-trip tickets were 1.25k € per person ( so I don't know where those 12k € came from). I think he exagerated the price.

2013-07-24 03:35

Checked the dates too? Also don't forget to add accomodation+meals into the equation.

2013-07-24 06:15

Yes of course, I bought the tickets 1 day before the event and 1 day after it ended. So we have 6 persons for a total of 7560 for the airplane. I sincerely refuse to belive that the rest up to 12k, that's almos 4500 € will be spent with accomodation and meals...

2013-07-24 13:58

VG scared of Quantic again GG

2013-07-24 04:32

I'm not sure VG got any reason to be scared of anyone oO Beside NIP which got a psychological impact on them by winnning 6 time in a row there last confrontation.

2013-07-24 07:25