Video: de_train_ve walkthrough

21-8-2013 20:38

ESEA have posted an over four minutes long walkthrough of Salvatore "Volcano" Garozzo's new map, de_train_ve.

After successfully getting Valve to replace the stock de_nuke_se map with Garozzo's de_nuke_ve earlier this year, the former 3D member is now hoping they do the same with de_train_ve.

Although the map has already garnered much positive feedback as it has mixed each CS versions' de_train together in hopes of making the ultimate version, Garozzo is already working on changes.

He received most of the criticism about the trains outside and specifically their rextures, so he has now recruited Lenz "penE" Monath, whom helped him with new de_cache version, to revamp it.

If you missed the news earlier today, you can find our lengthy post about de_train_ve, including the full changelog, here. Below is the walkthrough video of the map.

You can download de_train_ve through Steam's workshop here. Garozzo's blog, where he announced the map just overe twelve hours ago, can be found here.

Very nice, hoping to see this implemented soon :)

2013-08-21 20:40

great map! well done volcano

2013-08-21 20:40

why hltv doesn't embed tweets?

2013-08-21 20:42

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wat is a html

2013-08-21 21:11

looks good. i just hope that you can actually see the guy underneath the train

2013-08-21 20:44

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As noted in the video: - Increased Lighting Under Trains

2013-08-21 21:26

it's seems pretty nice ..

2013-08-21 20:45

nice map

2013-08-21 20:47

I need one more Train in small ladder. and sound other than footstep on ground.

2013-08-21 20:47

Awesome :)

2013-08-21 20:48

amazing great volcano !

2013-08-21 20:49

played it today and i really enjoyed it gj

2013-08-21 20:49

Great work man!

2013-08-21 20:50

Amazing! GJ!

2013-08-21 20:52

looks exactly like the source map lol At least the trains are back

2013-08-21 20:54

The paint in the walls is such simple, yet effective solution. Props to him for that. The only thing I dislike is the handrail in the tower. Train was my favourite map in 1.6 because of the movemont you could do in the ladders to evade the enemy. Especially the one where you would drop from the tower to the 6th train ladder. Getting rid of all straightforward maps is a good way to get me playing this game again, alongside with cosmetic items of course.

2013-08-21 20:53

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You can still do that, you just have to jump over the railing. :D As for the map in general; it's exactly what I wanted somebody to do, namely porting Source's train version with 1.6 gameplay elements such as widened hallways and simplified entrances. What could have been included on top of that are popular wallbang spots such as pop-dog to T halls, the train's substructions and maybe even 5-train to alley.

2013-08-21 21:10

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You can still do that, you just have to jump over the railing. :D But it's a hassle. This is a shooter game, you're more likely of dying from bullets or explosions than falls!

2013-08-21 21:15

I get what you mean and mostly agree. Meanwhile with current movement in CS: GO there are not that many options or styles to approach the game compared to what we experienced in 1.6. So for now i guess the railings probably makes some more sense than vice versa. On the other hand game is "only" 1 year and hopefully as time passes by crucial elements like the ceiling for pro movement-skills etc evolves for maximum eSport experience.

2013-08-21 21:27

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What you said it's mostly true, but your aren't looking at the problem: A) The game was originally made for consoles B) Because of that the maps had to be easy to navigate C) The movement couldn't be complex because of the console players (Valve wanted the game to be equal in all platforms, that's why beta and post-beta movement sucked) C) The handrails, lack of ladders in some trains, inability to crouch under trains in the original map etc etc were made that way so players wouldn't fall every time they were there.

2013-08-21 23:06

+1 the paint on the walls is brilliant solution

2013-08-21 22:19

good job, if he tweaks those train graphics and other small fixes this will be so awesome to play!

2013-08-21 20:53

amzing ! gratz !

2013-08-21 20:57

I want that became an official :) nice

2013-08-21 20:59

AWESOME AMAZING !

2013-08-21 21:02

Very nice !

2013-08-21 21:05

Brute, you should really learn from this guy. I kinda liked the map but there are some things I didn't like that much, some trains should be longer like the one close to ladder room, it should be long enough so that the player standing in Heaven cannot see ladder room. The trains in the inner site closer to lower and to CT connector should be way larger and closer to each other so that is way harder for CTs to watch from CT connector the inner site. All in all, all the train should be longer and taller, the graphics simply used CSGO ones but not round ones, those that are like the one close to ladder room. Still great map.

2013-08-21 21:12

great work

2013-08-21 21:13

looks way more competitive/better than _se. promising :)

2013-08-21 21:16

nice :)

2013-08-21 21:17

A lot of unnecessary shit was removed, that's good. I'm digging the new popdog area as well. Gotta say that the whole bomb site A seems like a regression though. Being able to plant in the middle of the train yard instead of having to go all the way back felt much more balanced in contrast to previous versions. Plus there were some really nice T smoke strategies to get a quick bomb plant on A, that's gonna be a whole lot harder now.

2013-08-21 21:17

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that my friend is balancing that ct map. All of them are except d2. I like the map the way it is.

2013-08-21 22:37

Oh come on, I hated the stupid smoke and plant... So cheap...

2013-08-21 22:42

Change de train textute please, it's 2k13

2013-08-21 21:29

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fuck off its 2k13

2013-08-21 21:32

its 2k13 some yolo kid talkin'

2013-08-21 23:42

nice, but dont like the <A> planting place, better to put it in 1.6 place imo

2013-08-21 21:41

Definitely better than the official version of train.

2013-08-21 21:46

thank you. volcano has the time to play on a semi-pro team and support the community by making great maps simultaneously. brute sux.

2013-08-21 21:50

Not liking what i see.

2013-08-21 22:04

SHORT TRAINs :/

2013-08-21 22:08

this map looks great 100 times better than _se and i think will be more interesting to watch competitively.

2013-08-21 22:08

Looks great. SO much better than the original map.

2013-08-21 22:09

my advice: If you like it play it if you don't like it don't play it.

2013-08-21 22:11

people complaining about the trains, did you read the article? he's working on them and will release a new updated version soon.

2013-08-21 22:11

I actually preffered the A bombsite of GO somewhat, but that's really the only thing.

2013-08-21 22:13

nicee

2013-08-21 22:23

just played leetway on it its awp_train, from now on.

2013-08-21 22:25

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just like 1.6 <3

2013-08-21 22:56

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true :D i remember pubs on train, everyone just awp.

2013-08-21 23:06

Really a lot better map and hopefully will be added to the next tournament! :) Still hoping to see valve implement all good maps to MM ffs...

2013-08-21 22:41

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Just asking out of curiosity what does ffs mean?

2013-08-22 07:52

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for fucks sake

2013-08-22 13:31

luv this !

2013-08-21 22:48

dont think its all that but whatever, please the diehard 'i cant move on' from other games folk.

2013-08-21 23:10

Instant love ! <3 <3

2013-08-21 23:12

trains need to be a little bit taller... other than that. awesome map!

2013-08-21 23:38

looks like csp lol

2013-08-21 23:48

Gotta hand it to him, he's done a great job on it. Feels like a much better competitive version of the abomination that Valve released in GO. Very impressed.

2013-08-21 23:53

Trains look so retarded, better replace containers with boxes etc. would be more eyefriendly to see. Also bomb planter have no sneek room anymore (1 fail by cover mate and you are middle of the killzone). Paint on wall were good idea, speacially for bit daltonics or laptop monitor users (no1 use it in proscene, but even tho). But white color on wall makes enemy too much visible, easy to take reactionshots or trace 100% correctly. And what most of it sucks... less details than other map. That means less playroom and peaking out frags and also less brain need to 1:1 correct prefire.

2013-08-21 23:53

how does this help the terrorist side ? :/

2013-08-22 00:03

i love the style

2013-08-22 00:04

getting better ;D

2013-08-22 00:58

good job

2013-08-22 01:20

so he said that the trains will be bigger in the future and the textures will have the csgo feel. this sounds nice!

2013-08-22 01:37

It s basicly de_train from css, and 1.6ers are pleased with that apparently haha! I still don t get why he removed the a site, which was fine at its actual spot. Overall don t like the changements, but de_train is the worst map in counter strike,so you cant change whats shit at the start in something good.

2013-08-22 01:51

Waited a year for this shit to come!

2013-08-22 01:55

the best map of csgo !!

2013-08-22 03:17

alley, popdog and the bombsites are rubbish, imo.

2013-08-22 03:30

train_se was so stupidly butchered. worst map ever. ain't even kidding... this looks much better. haven't played it yet, but I'm kinda sure it is.

2013-08-22 05:23

Welcome back the erea of 15-10 , 14-1 , 13-2 In ct :\

2013-08-22 05:52

this version knocks down valve's one :)

2013-08-22 08:23

Why change A site to 5 lane? It would make CT dominate the whole map like the previous version. B site is good though.

2013-08-22 08:28

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Not really. It's easier for T's to get to. You have to consider that and it's an easier place to hold esp from ct spawn/z/pop

2013-08-22 10:14

you can do a mid/alley strat and go quickly

2013-08-22 11:40

Need taller trains, b is way to open. Good map fun to play

2013-08-22 08:33

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volcano said that changes are coming :)

2013-08-22 11:39

great map/.. it should replace the _se in official matches

2013-08-22 09:33

Is this the new competitve version of train? Would be cool.

2013-08-22 11:58

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I really hope so. Seriously, all the recent updates has made the game so much better!

2013-08-22 15:40

I think it's plant bags..: Can plant on the sides of carriage B plant and A plant steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetai.. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetai.. And some strange positions for plant: On B plant steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetai.. So hard to see plant under the rails Don't know why, but it strange for me steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetai..

2013-08-22 12:23

just admit the current map is better and stop looking for 1.6 maps. It's a different game, train is good fun nowadays, stop moaning, this map looks as one sided as can be x

2013-08-22 12:48

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The current version is definitely not good lol It eliminated literally every aspect of what made train be the most exciting map to watch in 1.6 . Volcano's version is far better even though it's far from perfect atm...especially with the simplistic and far too small trains. Neither version is perfect, but that's why Volcano will work on it and listen to the feedback from the community. Again the current train version is definitely not fun, it needs a few tweaks but I think Volcano overdid it now. And this map is definitely not one sided now. The only thing worse the moaners and complainers are complacent people.

2013-08-22 13:20

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what do you do for a living? Did you decide to make a difference to the computer games world? How does crying about a dam level make a difference? Just accept it and move the hell on, adapt and just hf. It's hardly unplayable, quite the opposite, I find it fine. You guys are just looking to live in 1.6 and even in your reply even though I stated 'stop looking for 1.6 maps' you want to watch 1.6 maps...

2013-08-22 21:06

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Again you're not paying attention. Criticizing is not the same as whining. Half of the people complaining here cannot provide any constructive criticism because their English is notoriously bad. Unplayable is not the same thing as not good which is what I said. There is a reason why the map went from the 2nd most common map in 1.6 to the least common map in GO. I'm not looking to live in 1.6, I have less than 50hrs of CS in the last 2 years, so I'm not playing very much but I'm still interested in the scene here or there. After all 1.6 is still Counter Strike as GO and you cannot make GO maps completely different so that they will not look alike 1.6 maps. There's a lot of things about the current train map that I like, like CT Heaven and even the bomb-plant on the outside is an improvement over the 1.6 one. However shifting the ladders and eliminating the possiblity of crouching under trains was stupid! Volcano for example removed the blind spots in his maps and the solution is not bringing a 1.6 map (which I never claimed explicitly I want back) is merging all these maps into one. Switch back the ladders, introduce crouching under the train, eliminate blind spots, shift the bombsite on the outside a little bit to prevent stupid rushes and there you have it. A map that should be enjoyed by the whole community and popularized on competitive tournaments.

2013-08-22 23:04

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then make the changes, start a constructive crit thread or petition and then go link it to valve. Ok I agree that in the beginning rushing outside was easy with a few well placed smokes and flashes but I feel like that's easily shut down nowadays now that people are used to it. I duno man, I kinda hear you but I also feel like maybe get more than 50 CS in 2 years and see if you like the game for what it is rather than what it was. Old people are always like 'in my day it was like this and this and nowadays its all ruined bla bla bla, we need to go back to the good times.' I feel like a lot of the community are just stale gits that are bringing the game down because they arent as good at csgo as they were at the previous games and just need to stop being so anti change and just remember to hf and go with it.

2013-08-23 11:33