CPH Wolves back VG's statement

Copenhagen Wolves have stated that they fully support VeryGames' stance on the competitive maps.

On Tuesday evening, VeryGames made a plea to tournament organisers to listen to the community after they decided to go for the standard map versions with immediate effect.

The biggest issue lies around Valve's de_mirage replacing the _ce version, which had long been used, but there are also complaints regarding other maps, such as de_train and de_inferno.

Copenhagen Wolves have now stated that "the overwhelming consensus amongst professional teams and players" is that de_mirage_ce is "vasly superior" to Valve's version of the map.

The Danish organisation also reminded Valve that the CS:GO community "showed tremendous spirit in raising $250,000" for DH Winter, so it is "only logical for their voice to be heard on matters such as this".

Below you can find CPH Wolves' statement:

"Copenhagen Wolves fully support the sentiments aired by Team VeryGames in their recently published statement regarding the changes to the competitive CS:GO circuit's map cycle. There is an overwhelming consensus amongst professional teams and players that de_mirage_ce is vastly superior to Valve's interpretation of the map with respect to its viability in competitive play.

"We therefore feel that it is in the best interests of the community for all parties involved in the recent joint agreement to favour de_mirage over de_mirage_ce to revert back to the usage of the later. 

"We also share Team VeryGames' concerns regarding the other issues surrounding Valve's official maps such as the lack of visibility due to fog particles, in-game performance deterioration, as well as the distraction of non-static props.

"The CS:GO community showed tremendous spirit in raising $250,000 for the forthcoming DreamHack Winter tournament and with that in mind we feel that it is only logical for their voice to be heard on matters such as this."

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ok
2013-10-23 01:03
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World xaero0
right, F Y VALVE
2013-10-23 07:15
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Cool
2013-10-23 01:03
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France Valkyros
I agree with us but what's the matter with Valve's train?
2013-10-23 01:05
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Slovakia maniacof
valve's train is not bad, but volcano's is just better YOU CAN MOVE UNDER TRAINS
2013-10-23 01:27
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awesome, more places for get_right to hide with an autosniper and ruin skilled competitive play for everyone by revealing gay spots. hooray
2013-10-23 03:35
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Poland Keruzz
to be honest for me volcano version is terrorist side map rofl xD much easier was to play in terrorist than CT
2013-10-23 04:21
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Belgium Chowpa
every new map is T sided for a while then people learn how to play it and it becomes CT sided
2013-10-23 04:37
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The opposite of CS 1.6 :O
2013-10-23 10:19
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Europe Naitee
actually the same thing happened at the end of 1.6 to dust2 :D
2013-10-23 13:37
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Belgium Chowpa
because csgo gives a natural T advantage with peeking and shit
2013-10-23 16:09
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United States marlax
Statistically, 1.6 Train was less one-sided than the GO train.
2013-10-23 16:47
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#133
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Hungary andris93
I don't know what is your problem with the autosnipers. It's a balanced and a good weapon. There isn't any problem with it.
2013-10-23 15:35
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Belgium Chowpa
not autosniper itself, but how gay it can be in some spots
2013-10-23 16:10
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Hungary andris93
I was trolling sarcastically, but i have failed :(
2013-10-23 16:48
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Czech Republic jYrY
nope its not
2013-10-23 12:49
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I hope valve actually does something with this.
2013-10-23 01:05
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Finland  jOELZ
gg valves miragE sucks
2013-10-23 01:05
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what do u think of train_ve instead of de_train?
2013-10-23 03:32
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Finland  jOELZ
imo train_ve is pretty good map, but i don't care which train we play in tournaments :) both are okay for me
2013-10-23 03:42
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United States jjh
that's cause u don't play any, boom!
2013-10-23 04:35
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Finland KRNG-
Ooooooh shiiiiiit. No.
2013-10-23 06:42
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Brunei LogixCass
You're so funnehhhh
2013-10-23 07:42
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Finland Eepzie
Almost made my day
2013-10-23 14:00
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Europe Dor1s
headshot
2013-10-23 19:14
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It sucks.
2013-10-23 12:02
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France -huhu-
comon play this mirage even if it sucks..
2013-10-23 01:05
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Denmark Wolfztar
Why should they, if it is an inferior version? We all want the best matches and if that means playing other versions, then Valve needs to wake up and listen more to the teams.
2013-10-23 01:11
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United States MadCl0wN
WUT? same problems ppl bitching like noobs the valve mirage is not that bad and i assure you we can see better matches ask teams like AD.
2013-10-23 13:51
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Denmark Wolfztar
Yes, when pretty much all the top teams complain, it is definitely because the players are bitching and not because Valve has made an inferior map... I would like to see matches on maps, which the teams feel more comfortable on, since it most likely will elevate their game.
2013-10-23 14:13
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United States MadCl0wN
if you cant play on valve mirage than you sir are retarded :D
2013-10-23 14:22
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Denmark Wolfztar
You are quite blind to reason huh? I tell you why I would like competitive matches to be played on the top teams favored map and you attack my person. Grow up, find some arguments and come back. If you do not know how to have a discussion, don't bother replying back to me, I will not.
2013-10-23 19:20
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:D
2013-10-23 20:07
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Sweden dafl4m
Yeah lets play a bad map for no reason when we could have better games on a good map... wait what?
2013-10-23 01:20
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Belgium oozniot
WUT?!
2013-10-23 01:40
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Greece CH34732
+1
2013-10-23 01:08
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Bulgaria NfinitY3
nice
2013-10-23 01:12
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Poland cAst0r
Yep, volvo listen them!
2013-10-23 01:13
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Denmark generalsummer
I wish they would change the maps in matchmaking to the ones played in tournaments. Not the other way arround.
2013-10-23 01:15
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Greece her-1g
tbh _se versions of inf and d2 suck balls
2013-10-23 01:17
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Idd, imo it's best to go for a compromise solution regarding the mirage and maybe train. The rest are fine and tweakable.
2013-10-23 09:35
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Sweden maj0r
They are better BUT -30 fps on them. Which sucks balls.
2013-10-23 10:39
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If you cant handle 30 fps less, then you should really consider buying a new computer.
2013-10-23 12:24
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Sweden maj0r
I am fine with 100-150fps (capped 151) but inferno is retarded on some places. Just check any streamer and you'll notice fps drops a bit here and there. One place is on apartments aiming down quad. It is broken. Never had the problem on the _se maps :).
2013-10-23 13:35
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CPH who? 0_o
2013-10-23 01:22
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Indonesia vyee
you must be new
2013-10-23 08:04
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Slovakia 1343214fdsaff
just check the fucking CSGO stats section. damn some people are ignorant.
2013-10-23 10:38
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Russia Saint1
more like navi who?
2013-10-23 13:48
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United Kingdom dippyhippy
i hope valves response is to tweak their version from pro player feedback. would be nice to see player feedback on how to change valves version for the best because overall i think it's best every skill level are playing the same version.
2013-10-23 01:22
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Brazil autismo
its just a game why u heff to b mad
2013-10-23 01:23
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Denmark RepaKthS
yes it's just a game, but a game with 250.000$ in price pool
2013-10-23 12:45
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+11111 iz only game
2013-10-23 12:46
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Russia Saint1
theyre professional players its not a game its their job since you are brazilian ill explain it in a way you can understand so imagine you have a job running cocaine for the columbian cartels. youve been doing it quite a while and you are quite good at it. suddenly now, instead of smuggling it through the jungle by offroad car past the columbia-brazil border the cartel now wants you to walk with it past a checkpoint. same thing
2013-10-23 13:50
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I guess you were the only one that didnt realised it was a joke. Since you are russian (and probably drunk) i kinda already know that you guys would not understand, i'll explain to you: IT WAS A JOKE. k? Thx.
2013-10-23 14:01
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Poland kRAMERO
"and probably drunk" XD
2013-10-24 00:22
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Denmark Dummeh
pro tip; when someone writes things like "u heff to b mad", they are either joking, or they are so stupid they should just be ignored :)
2013-10-24 02:29
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Germany gliss
inb4 tons of teams making statements and then NiP saying how they are all for the map change; nip > world.
2013-10-23 01:24
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United Kingdom grund
Nip are on valves side lol
2013-10-23 01:44
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Sweden BROCEAN
.. Or is VALVe on NiP's side..
2013-10-23 02:07
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Germany gliss
or are valve and nip actually the same thing... we must pose these questions!
2013-10-23 02:26
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France kn1ght_t
lol
2013-10-23 07:20
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United Kingdom spart-
Vasly superior
2013-10-23 01:24
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Netherlands Nevirus
I'm one of the people who has opened E-sports cases. If a part of my money goes to the competitive scene. I would like to see the teams run the BEST available competitive maps. So I can see the best teams playing at their best, with proper tactics and angles. Not some half ass shit where you simply can't properly defend an angle or execute strats. Sure the new mirage looks fancy and the casual players play it. Still I think if you watch competitive CS it should at the very least be played on competitive maps.
2013-10-23 01:32
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+1
2013-10-23 01:29
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+1 Completely agree. Now we need more public statements of other top teams like NiP
2013-10-23 01:33
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Denmark dondane
Why do want a statement from NiP? They fully support valve. Xizt even said that they welcome the new mirage. We need more public statements from top teams OTHER than NiP.
2013-10-23 01:40
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Europe hest1
yep Xizt said they like the new mirage better than the old, because it "looks more like a cs:go map lol" whats the difference when it plays like shit
2013-10-23 12:23
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Belgium oozniot
I really just cant think about playing this new mirage for the next years, and all the others i've talked to too. This map is just so bad.. come on imo that map was the best we've got in CSGO. It's great to play competitivly and even on mixes with friends. I really tried to appreciate the new one but i just cant. You guys Valve are making a huge mistake ;) hope more teams will follow.
2013-10-23 01:35
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Ukraine de_nys
inb4 Valve rage with ''There is an overwhelming consensus amongst professional teams and players that de_mirage_ce is vastly superior to Valve's interpretation of the map...''
2013-10-23 01:36
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inb4 Valve goes on a tantrum like a baby because we don't like their shitty map and cuts funding for every tourney from now on and kills GO.
2013-10-23 01:42
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Ukraine de_nys
hahahaha
2013-10-23 01:43
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France Keirt
old mirage the best...
2013-10-23 01:44
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Hungary flashie
+1 VG and CPH I hope we dont have to play on valve mirage, dont want to play this map competitively. :(
2013-10-23 01:45
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United Kingdom grund
Nice job cphw and vg, rise up and crush evil NiP!!! :D
2013-10-23 01:46
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Sweden FrostMage
What i see with this is that VG doesnt like the new mirage because then their old strats n stuff wont work. So now they have tons of work to do and they dont like it. CPH doesnt wanna play it because theyre bad at it just . I doesnt say that the new mirage is good i just think this is one big reason why they dont wanna play it
2013-10-23 01:47
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Belgium oozniot
the map is just bad as fuck and i really think more teams will follow (maybe appart from nip) and it has nothing to do with the reasons you gave above.
2013-10-23 01:52
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Hahaha, ofc they dont give a fuck about doing new strats. Its the same for everybody. The map is just pure shit, I mean look at it
2013-10-23 01:55
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Romania kradro
Yeah, this will work, thinking that 10 dummies will force a billion dollar company to do anything by saying retarded things like "The CS:GO community showed tremendous spirit in raising $250,000 for the forthcoming DreamHack Winter". PLEASE STOP DUMMIES. The community opened cases in the hope of gettin a knife and sale it for 300E. Same shit like for VG, boicot the DHW if you have balls, will take you seriously after.
2013-10-23 02:01
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1) Stop being so fucking stupid. Ofc. It's not impossible that they will change it, actually Im pretty sure that they will, just like they have changed alot of other things in CS:GO because of the community asking for it. 2) VG to boycot DreamHack Winter? Again.. are you out of your mind? Why would they? It wouldn't change anything to boycot an event, where Valve is the main sponsor. Damn, people are so stupid in-here, I cant even.. Never go full retard
2013-10-23 02:23
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Romania kradro
Yeah, you learn "never go full retard" on the internet and you think this is, somehow, validating your point, good one dummie. 1. I'm pretty sure they will not change it because it makes no sense to have 10 fuckin versions of the same map. 2. Why boycot? Because then their point will be taken seriously and not like a joke. If they truly think old mirage is better and not just that they are bored of making new strats do something about it not just this retarded sentimental blackmail "oh no the community showed tremendous spirit". No it didnt. They just wanted skins and couldnt give two fucks about the comepetitive side of CSGO, if only because they had NO IDEA the money will go there. The other point is this: this community showed time and time again that they cant think objectively about anything and get past the "we want it like it was! why? CUZ WE DO!", we need stuff that is good for us to be shoved down out throats until we get the memo is good for us and start to think about it. It took us one year to realise what CSGO competitive side will look like, now we think it was our ideea.
2013-10-23 02:37
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You are seriously clueless. All you write is nonsense. No, they wouldnt be taken more seriously, people would laugh at them for not participating in the most prestigious lan event of the year. 10 versions of the map? Again you are clueless.. there is de_mirage, de_mirage_se & de_mirage_ce. - besides that, what would it change if there were 10 different versions of mirage? Nothing. Only one map is in the map pool anyway. Half of the stuff you are writing are bullshit and doesn't make any sense at all. Never go full retard
2013-10-23 03:07
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Romania kradro
The supreme never go full retard argument, guess you got me, you are just to smart for me :)
2013-10-23 04:19
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Finland dRiim
he's opinions 100 % every ones opinion pls bye
2013-10-23 07:33
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Just stating the facts :)
2013-10-23 08:35
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"non-static props" First I've heard the chickens called that.
2013-10-23 02:05
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United States marlax
He's talking about the crates, cans and shit you can shoot at/step on on the ground.
2013-10-23 16:52
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France Keirt
+2000000 mirage_ce
2013-10-23 02:06
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#45
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Brazil skuggz
mirage_ce + volcano's train = gg
2013-10-23 02:07
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#46
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Sweden BROCEAN
Eh I've started to enjoy volvos mirage.
2013-10-23 02:09
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United Kingdom ykcd
Agree with both statements, mirage_ce is the superior version. Dropping support of _se maps was a terrible decision as the chickens and fog have no place in competition.
2013-10-23 02:24
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Tournaments would never have agreed unless Valve were working on said issues in the first place. It's like some people here don't understand that tournaments want to make the teams and communities best interests at heart. Fog was eliminated on de_nuke recently, and I'm 90% sure they are working on other maps as well. The only real issue is around mirage and whether it will be competitively viable.
2013-10-23 03:21
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"de_mirage_ce is vastly superior to Valve's interpretation of the map with respect to its viability in competitive play" AHAHAHA, blunt and to the point. +1 Much respect to Copenhagen Wolves for being straightforward and reasonable. I don't have very high hopes though, since Valve's CS:GO dev team consists of a bunch of retarded idiots who wouldn't change a thing until a team literally goes to their headquarters in Washington, U.S. and complains about it. (And even then they won't take suggestions, they'll only give bad ones, e.g. the silencer)
2013-10-23 02:31
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Turkey Markers
You really think valve's HQ are in Washington, U.S? you sure you arent remembering the US government?
2013-10-23 08:11
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Scotland jMz86
"I don't have very high hopes though, since Valve's CS:GO dev team consists of a bunch of retarded idiots who wouldn't change a thing until a team literally goes to their headquarters in Washington, U.S. and complains about it." de_nuke was changed or have you forgotten all ready?
2013-10-23 11:01
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#52
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World Antifrag
I support CPH's statement supporting VG's statement. In other words, VALVe, please wake the fuck up. Thanks.
2013-10-23 02:38
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Indonesia sandzetional
*still waiting for NiP's statement*
2013-10-23 02:45
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#81
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Denmark godbetz1
Never going to happen. NiP is in bed with Valve. They've been telling everyone to only play Valve maps.
2013-10-23 08:38
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Norway beastin
Dyckride now that VeryGames is on top?
2013-10-23 03:11
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#61
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Australia superior
The communities given them the money to fund these tournaments, it's only fair that all our voices be heard as CPH Wolves previously stated.
2013-10-23 03:50
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Sweden expected
Every Valve map has needed tweaking before it reached a competitively viable state. Valve's mirage is still a very young map. It seems very unlikely that it's going to remain this way forever. Maybe releasing a histrionic public "open letter" about how totally terrible it is only a few weeks after it was adopted by the various leagues is a little over the top? It's good that we're giving feedback to Valve about their map, but for God's sake, calling for a return to _ce is ridiculous and anachronistic, not to mention self-defeating if you're simultaneously purporting to strive towards a universal map-pool...
2013-10-23 04:34
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Turkey Markers
+1, well said
2013-10-23 08:08
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United States m0ELZj
+1
2013-10-23 15:27
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#66
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Australia GoMeZ
I'd be more happy to see mirage totally removed than use the valve version, i dont think a user-created version will ever be a valid map for a valve sponsored event. As for Inferno/Train, the fog and chickens is a quick fix, so hopefully it gets done.
2013-10-23 04:35
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#89
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United Kingdom dv-_-
Nadeo sponsored $100'000 to 2 Shootmania events, and both times used community made maps that were predetermined by a community wide vote before hand. I think if Valve do want to showcase their own maps only, then they need a much swifter approach to updating them to the way the community prefers.
2013-10-23 10:23
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#75
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Indonesia vyee
would be interestin to see how top teams gonna compete on new mirage.. +1 for mirage valve
2013-10-23 08:10
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#77
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Sweden gAlAxi
I think train is a really boring map... It feels so black and white ,and ofcourse mirage_ce > Volvo edition.
2013-10-23 08:19
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#79
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Denmark godbetz1
They should also change inferno to inferno_ce. It's much more 1.6ish
2013-10-23 08:37
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#80
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Austria kL0n
i hope more teams to stand up and back VG & CPHW with statements as i wrote in various posts in here: i think valve is listening to the community. they can prove it now and i hope that NiP starts to think. because if 40 teams vote for mirage_ce on facebook they should realize what to say to valve
2013-10-23 08:37
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#82
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Slovenia xpero39
Hopefully teams will now also provide details what should/needs to be changed.
2013-10-23 09:09
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#84
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Ukraine K1nGKeLa
Smells like THE community spirit! Valve, you guys should be proud:)!
2013-10-23 09:52
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#85
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France skàar
nice one CW !!
2013-10-23 09:54
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#86
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fender | 
Lithuania fender
valve mirage worst map in csgo competitive history
2013-10-23 10:07
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#91
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
cmon volvo, you can make the right move
2013-10-23 10:34
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#96
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Norway equaking
Mirace_ce gogo!
2013-10-23 10:42
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#97
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Andorra SILver_bullet
I remember reading here a lot of people saying that valve's mirage is better and the old one was too much 1.6er.. now that top teams support the oposite opinion everybody is licking their balls and saying that valve's mirage sucks... The same thing happen when csgo came out, "everybody" said that it sucks but when get_right and company started to playing it, suddenly it became the best cs ever cs community :facepalm: sheeps, sheeps everywhere
2013-10-23 10:50
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#99
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Finland Bergman.
We must have read diffrent news then, Becuse atlest 90% of the players hated it or didn't have an opinin becuse they hadn't played it enough yet. And almost every1 I played with have HATED the new Mirage, Included me.
2013-10-23 11:15
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#100
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Finland pulu
valve mirage is for professionals because its hard to see some spots.
2013-10-23 11:17
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#101
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France GEARGANN
+1 FOR CPH Please dear community can you makes some blogs to valve to know if it possible to haven't got 20-40 bullet M4A1 but 30-90? And usp ammo 12-96 and not 12-24 ? What did u think about ? ty :)
2013-10-23 11:26
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#102
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dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
I wonder if Valve will reply.
2013-10-23 11:36
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#104
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gob b | 
Iceland shine4t
The biggest problem for not having mirage_ce in the cycle for DHW and tournaments to come, is that 99% of the teams will just veto mirage. What that will do is make us have pretty much a 4 map cycle, and tbh 5 mapcycle is even small. We need a 7 mapcycle with cache and season in there. I really hope VALVe bites the bullet with mirage, train is less of an issue and also the chickens. In an ideal world we'd have no fog or chickens and play mirage_ce. But I really hope VALVe sees how their mirage map is not ready for a really high standard CS.
2013-10-23 12:15
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#107
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Europe hest1
mirage_ce is perfect, changing it doesnt make any sense
2013-10-23 12:31
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#110
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United Kingdom NipXe
+1
2013-10-23 12:47
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#111
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Slovenia yung_voodoo
"non-static props"
2013-10-23 12:47
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#113
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World uZME
Why the hell is things like these happening when NiP has a good relationship with VALVe, I mean why the fuck haven't NiP been backing up, I saw some clips when get_right told "us" how fucking easy it is to change things in the end, but how difficult the conclusions may be, but I feel like atleast this mirage scenario is so simple. Go with mirage_ce, and ofc fix fps overall ty.
2013-10-23 13:11
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#119
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United States MadCl0wN
another team bitching about the valve mirage is not that bad.
2013-10-23 13:54
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new maps are fine. cry me a river
2013-10-23 13:59
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#139
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United States marlax
New maps are fine for matchmaking, not fine to play on for 250k.
2013-10-23 16:54
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#123
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fnx | 
Norway Trypticon
+1 CW! The Valve maps just aren't competitively viable. Too many distractions and not optimized visually.
2013-10-23 14:07
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#126
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Denmark Blankeh
too many distactions and not optimized visually?... I have no problem spotting enemies, and if you get distracted you just a nub.
2013-10-23 14:19
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#125
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Denmark Blankeh
valves map>the other shit i dont care about chickens or fog, that means you just have to focus alot more... l2p people instead of asking valve to make it easier for you
2013-10-23 14:17
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graphics suck in mirage_ce
2013-10-23 14:26
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#147
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Denmark vinZento
graphics... omg
2013-10-24 22:01
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#129
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United Kingdom GA1SERB
Just do a poll and send it into valve, sorted.
2013-10-23 14:28
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#131
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arch | 
Ukraine arch
NEED MIRAGE_CE
2013-10-23 15:27
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#145
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France AarooN
It's simple : mirage_ce >>>>>>>>>> mirage
2013-10-24 14:38
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#146
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Sweden brunros
valve dont give a shit about the community/players, never have and never will. We will never see mirage played, teams will just veto it, giving us a 4 maps pool...ridicoulus.
2013-10-24 15:15
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