CS:GO update improves spectating

24-10-2013 05:06

Valve have released another weekly update for CS:GO, continuing to focus on improving spectators' experience.

After adding the WATCH menu a couple of weeks ago, Valve are still not done updating the spectators' side of things, as today's version includes several interesting changes.

The main update is that the recoil should from now on be visible in GOTV. Another new feature is automatic display of every player's money status and statistics during freeze time.

Additionally, a ROAMING mode was added which allows quick change to a predefined 3rd person camera in the vicinity of the selected player.

Freeze time display and the new ROAMING mode

As far as gameplay goes, the only notable change is the addition of the eye shielding animation to players blinded by flashbangs.

Here is the official list of changes:

[GAMEPLAY]

- Added eye shielding animation to players blinded by flashbangs.
- Fixed respawning in Deathmatch sometimes choosing a spawn point visible to players when more ideal positions were available.
- Fixed a bug in Deathmatch that could create weapons on the ground if a player spammed his "buy" key immediately upon respawn.

[SPECTATING]

- Added changeable, preset camera positions for all shipped maps that are activated by selecting a player with SHIFT + 0-9 while spectating. (see https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/CSGO:_Spectator_Tools for more info)
- Target players now glow white when viewing from a spectator camera in ROAMING mode.
- When spectating in ROAMING mode, we now draw a subtle Aiming Vector Line that shows each player’s aiming direction.- Dropped C4 now glows for spectators (yellow = dropped, flashing red = planted, green = defused).
- Added more UI during freeze time to display player money, spent money that round, and kills/assists/deaths.
- Improved armor icons in spectator panels.- Fixed recoil not being applied in GOTV and replays.
- Fixed UI weapon image sometimes being blank in GOTV.
- StatTrak now displays correct number of kills in GOTV and replays.
- Reenabled the spec_goto command and fixed it not working properly if called from a key bind.
- Moved the autodirector toggle key from “+speed” to “radio3” (from SHIFT key to the C key by default).
- Streams tab now includes 6 live streams.

[MISC]

- Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy.
- Improved Fiveseven viewmodel animation
- Improved Tec-9 viewmodel animation

The first chance to see the effects of these viewer-oriented changes will be this weekend's RaidCall EMS One Fall 2013 Finals.

nice movement fix! finally!

2013-10-24 05:07

2 replies

Finally.

2013-10-24 07:07

1 reply

yeah +1

2013-10-24 08:39

YAAAAAAAAY

2013-10-24 05:07

This is awesome from a streaming point of view! Hope to see more of these things, although there are a lot of gameplay issues they could be looking at aswell.

2013-10-24 05:09

9 replies

If Valve do the same for VAC, i'll be so damn happy !

2013-10-24 08:49

8 replies

Agree, update your anti-cheat system abit more and this is awesome...

2013-10-24 15:46

7 replies

they should make some corrections in movement and recoil when people are spamming ADADADA, also they should do a better anti cheat, i know people that are cheating every day, every minute and every second for FEW years and VAC didnt catch anything.... but i dont think it will ever happen, so we can just spam on forums and give our opinions to different people.....

2013-10-24 16:58

6 replies

I think it's really hard to create a good anti-cheat. Otherwise I'd be sure they'd have one.

2013-10-24 18:00

3 replies

if they can create a game they should be able to create a good anti cheat....

2013-10-24 18:07

2 replies

Problem is that the coders of cheats are mostly a step ahead of anti-cheat coders.

2013-10-24 19:49

Those 2 things dont go hand in hand unfortunately ;)

2013-10-25 13:29

organner dont work on vac ;P vac too stronk for organner:P

2013-10-24 18:56

VAC had a massive ban wave just last year, catching out thousands of people who used organner ring0 cheats. it is also constantly banning hundreds of cheaters, and overwatch helps a lot too. just because you aren't made constantly aware of VAC's rate of success doesn't mean it isn't doing anything.

2013-10-25 04:52

ded gaem

2013-10-24 05:11

1 reply

Kappa

2013-10-24 12:27

-Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy. I hope it won't fuck up the awping..

2013-10-24 05:11

10 replies

this is the only thing good from the update now the scope is so clear.

2013-10-24 06:55

2 replies

wow! can't wait to try :D

2013-10-24 06:59

try to move with zoom -.-

2013-10-24 11:33

I just tried it and while i never have problems knowing when to shoot, It is really hard to peak corners and such because i never know where the exact center of my crosshair is.

2013-10-24 12:38

6 replies

edit: forget that im stupid

2013-10-24 14:04

hm? how many years have you played CS? Even me, low skilled player, have played CS for so many years that I can shoot someone down using awp without needing crosshair at all :P

2013-10-24 15:24

4 replies

uhhh...just try the long shots...it is more difficult especially with all the bobble the scope does...

2013-10-24 18:10

3 replies

hmm I feel no difference. I'm using "v" as attack2 so I'm not as fast as everyone. I can be fast at times tho

2013-10-24 18:23

2 replies

When you peak corners, try peaking t spawn d2 to ct double doors for example.

2013-10-24 20:00

1 reply

yeah?

2013-10-24 20:07

2013-10-24 05:13

2013-10-24 05:15

I see moneystats text covers almost all the screen...

2013-10-24 05:17

5 replies

what do you want to see on freezetime?

2013-10-24 05:18

Yes, but that's only during freeze time so you're not missing any action

2013-10-24 05:19

just hating b4 even reading ... gj

2013-10-24 10:12

yes, yes! let the hate flow through you

2013-10-24 10:48

Press G and it goes away :D

2013-10-24 13:50

good update

2013-10-24 05:17

- Improved Fiveseven viewmodel animation - Improved Tec-9 viewmodel animation any video of this? cant check myself

2013-10-24 05:21

1 reply

This one @8min youtube.com/watch?v=oe7O6pv5cE0

2013-10-24 17:09

So kool!

2013-10-24 05:24

''Fixed recoil not being applied in GOTV and replays.'' Tears of joy!

2013-10-24 05:24

oohh super very update! nice valve

2013-10-24 05:27

Does adding recoil part in GOTV means we can also see recoil through demos from now on?

2013-10-24 05:31

5 replies

i believe so.

2013-10-24 06:55

not sure if trolling or just retarded Fixed recoil not being applied in GOTV and replays.

2013-10-24 06:59

3 replies

I didn't read the Valve official statement of this update showed below ,I just read the Tgwri1s's summary which just mentioned the fix in GOTV.You'd better to think about other possibilities besides trolling or retardness before u draw a conclusion next time.

2013-10-24 08:04

2 replies

Or instead of typing for a minute, read da log?

2013-10-24 08:53

1 reply

Nar I thought the description of the recoil fix in the summary well included all the information about the recoil part in the log.So I didn't go to the log for double checking.

2013-10-24 09:56

Really not feeling the visual indicator of being flashed. Now all someone has to do is pop flash and peek to see if you are blinded or not.

2013-10-24 05:37

11 replies

spectating only

2013-10-24 05:50

2 replies

nope

2013-10-24 06:09

nope

2013-10-24 06:38

:DDD

2013-10-24 06:06

is that animation only for teammates? if not, that will affect the gameplay very deeply.

2013-10-24 07:29

4 replies

I hope its only for teammates, or VALVE just failed badly

2013-10-24 07:55

3 replies

The enemy can see it. youtube.com/watch?v=YFSYLZ65238

2013-10-24 08:54

2 replies

lol!!!

2013-10-24 13:25

Well ye i tested it, but its not bad i think

2013-10-24 15:26

could work against you though. Being semi flashed probably still has the animation, so it could result in people thinking their opponent is completely blind, running out, and dying guess we'll have to wait and see how it affects the gameplay :P

2013-10-24 08:34

...and that is about time because of all the shitstorm i get from people in the chat when i quickly look away from flashes (hackusations about not being flashed etc.) And i would love to have a clue if my enemies looked away from that flash i threw or not.

2013-10-24 12:30

how much MB update?

2013-10-24 05:53

still no mirage fixes mehh update apart from the neat spec ui features

2013-10-24 06:23

nice

2013-10-24 06:27

nice update for spectating!

2013-10-24 06:43

not one chicken was seen that day.

2013-10-24 06:55

2013-10-24 07:31

They should also improve the fast forward and backward when watching a demo. We should have a scrolling bar like on YouTube

2013-10-24 07:42

4 replies

Yup !

2013-10-24 08:06

yeah that would be really handy

2013-10-24 10:13

When you go back does it still reload that map? That is annoying as hell :(

2013-10-24 15:41

demoui2 in console and it brings back the oldschool 1.6 scrolling bar however it still does reload the demo each time you rewind.

2013-10-25 21:00

How will the new animation affect the hit box?? Hope not the same as with planting animation.........

2013-10-24 07:45

5 replies

Hitboxes follow the animation, nothing to worry about youtube.com/watch?v=D-hOTARruCQ

2013-10-24 10:37

4 replies

thats even worse becus then its harder to hit the head with the arm in the way

2013-10-24 11:11

3 replies

no it isn't, you can shoot through the arm and it will count as a headshot

2013-10-24 11:16

You really should learn game's mechanics before whining. If you shoot in the head through the arm it will count as a headshot

2013-10-24 11:32

1 reply

then its something new and specific for go.. its not how it have been in other games

2013-10-24 13:39

who dafaq need this for spec o.o

2013-10-24 08:12

6 replies

People commentating matches through spec, often show scoreboard and what people buy in the freezetime. While it was difficult to show it all before, this will make them able to give a quick review of what to expect in the round, making the explaining part better afterwards of what is going to happen/happening at the time. That is just my thoughts atleast.

2013-10-24 08:41

5 replies

2013-10-24 10:47

valve must repair scout bug (jump hs) and other bugs,later they can do this. -.-

2013-10-24 13:43

3 replies

its not a bug, and its the only way to make scout a viable weapon

2013-10-24 15:32

Actually id say this is WAY more important then the scout lmao.

2013-10-24 16:44

I hate being jump hs'ed by a scout guy, but hey. It ain't really viable in the long run, so as long I dont see it every match. ^^

2013-10-24 17:25

Great update, but I do not like the AWP scope change.

2013-10-24 08:23

1 reply

Yep, this is a game-changing step in the opposite direction. Unfortunately a lot of people are seeing the AWP change as positive :(

2013-10-24 15:34

before valve improves spectating, shouldn't they improve the game so the game actually gets spectators. *sigh

2013-10-24 08:44

3 replies

Why do people not realize that it's these small things that pull the crowds? New players aren't going to be attracted by a movement fix, P90 nerf or hitbox glitch.

2013-10-24 13:05

2 replies

Game will NEED to be F2P to get a big number of new players, deal with it.

2013-10-25 20:42

1 reply

No, numbers have already increased massively over the last 6 months.

2013-10-26 00:32

finally we can see recoil in gotv demos.It's just so much nicer when casters just directly joined games and spectated them rather than gotv.I hope that'll change now

2013-10-24 09:04

M4A1 30-90 ? Usp 12-96?

2013-10-24 09:07

12 replies

if that happens i will quit the game

2013-10-24 11:07

11 replies

hummm why?

2013-10-24 11:09

10 replies

because m4a1-s will be super OP

2013-10-24 11:16

7 replies

Are you new to CS?

2013-10-24 13:07

6 replies

It's not the same m4a1 we had in source/1.6, this one is more accurate and has less recoil. The only people still complaining about the 20/60 thing are the ones who can't aim

2013-10-24 13:45

4 replies

its not more accurate it only has less recoil, the first bullet is just as accurate as the m4a4

2013-10-24 14:05

1 reply

My point still stands

2013-10-24 15:43

20/60 isn't a terrible argument. You really get penalized hard if you try to spray someone through a wall or spray randomly somewhere. Silencer allows your tracers to not be spotted through smoke, but it is tough to waste more than 10-15 bullets spamming. I agree that 30 bullets is way too much for this colt though. Game would be ridic with 30 bullets on the headshot machine.

2013-10-24 18:16

1 reply

Ofc you're gonna get penalized, the gun only costs 2900$, has a lot less recoil than the m4a4, has a silencer which allows you to kill one or a few opponents without getting spotted, and has no tracers which is very usefull for smoke sprays. If it had 30 or even 25 bullets, nobody would take the m4a4 anymore. In valve's mind, we have to make a tough choice on which m4 we're gonna use. And they managed to make it pretty hard since the division of m4a4/m4a1-s looks pretty balanced in the games that i've seen so far

2013-10-24 21:02

Have you ever even tried the m4a1-s in GO?

2013-10-24 14:00

it is so fucking OP. last thing i want is retards running and full clipping through the map. m4a1s the new p90

2013-10-24 11:19

because it is plain stupid and kills the game.

2013-10-24 11:21

This might be the best update so far for spectators and streamers.

2013-10-24 09:24

Well, they can update spectator UI, but it doesnt work like this. Improve the game/bug... And after everything is ok, they should work on spectator. Right now ppl will come and watch to see "oh dashit this game suck, never try it again goodbye".

2013-10-24 10:17

Anders is probably exploding with excitement already over this update. :D

2013-10-24 10:24

- Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy. Valve's rapid response to yesterday's starix' moves.

2013-10-24 10:25

10 replies

Just tried, it really helps beginners to feel inaccuracy delays.

2013-10-24 10:28

7 replies

While also making it impossible to aim for anyone who has played an fps before lol

2013-10-24 11:16

6 replies

No idea why are you faggots whining. Before this update your scope looked accurate right after you stopped, whereas in reality there was a 0.1 (iirc) delay. Now it reflects actual accuracy of the weapon

2013-10-24 11:37

4 replies

Oh I don't know... maybe because I want to see the thing I'm trying to aim with? Idiot.

2013-10-24 12:06

3 replies

What they mean is that before it looked like it was dead center, now they fixed it so if you still have a movement value you will see you inaccuracy status by the blurines of the lines. Not so good for really good players who learn that by hours of practice, but good for all amateurs who got frustrated with it.

2013-10-24 12:22

2 replies

On the previous patch it felt like the blurriness ended perfectly as the accuracy went to 100%, but even if it wasn't I much preferred a visible crosshair than one that literally disappears.

2013-10-24 13:10

1 reply

Your point is understandable, though the end of the blurriness did not represent actual accuracy: there was a 0.1 delay which caused confusion

2013-10-24 13:59

I'm on your side with this one, such a bad move from Valve

2013-10-24 15:37

Exactly what I was thinking. Valve HQ: "holy shit starix just did a double ace with AWP (and AK)" "AWP must be OP?" "dunno never actually played CS:GO before" "Let's nerf it by blurring the scope any way we can!" "Sounds good, release!"

2013-10-24 11:03

1 reply

haha good 1

2013-10-24 12:21

How to make SHIFT to toggle auto director instead of C?

2013-10-24 10:29

The game is now complete guys, we have flashbang animations :D youtube.com/watch?v=YFSYLZ65238

2013-10-24 10:48

Soon we won't see shit anymore ingame.

2013-10-24 10:49

I am still missing some chicken tweaks based on Pro Playaz opinions

2013-10-24 11:23

woooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo

2013-10-24 11:30

n1ce

2013-10-24 11:33

Yes! Exactly what we asked for! Increase AWP blur and introduce eye-shielding animation! Like, what the hell? All this banter about how tweaking things such as the movement more towards how it used to be would alter the gameplay too tremendously, and then they go ahead and introduce a feature that has never been part of CS without giving a single explanation as to why. Guess what, here's why: Just like auto-crouching, it's another visual pointer intended to make the game more noob-friendly and take away freedom from the players. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is implemented badly. As in, how does the animation look like when they shoot? For how long does the animation last? At which degree of being flashed does it kick in? What about hitboxes? Does this mean that on top of lag compensation issues with crouching, now there are also arms in front of the face denying headshots? I bet if the animation doesn't go well with shooting, what they will do to "fix" it is not allowing you to shoot while eye-shielding... I hope the complete fade of the AWP scope means that we will see an accuracy increase for quick and no-scoping, otherwise it just seems pathetic how much the AWP has been nerfed and designed away from what people have been suggesting. Also, now that they have shown to be interested in working on the gun animations, I hope they give the M4A1 a different draw/reload animation and sounds than the M4A4, fill in the USP's dead pixels and generally polish them (the deagle flips through your fingers when you draw it - just an indicator of how some of the weapon animations are even worse than they have been in 1.6). With the introduction of recoil kickback into GOTV, I hope they will look at viewpoint kickback interpolation.

2013-10-24 11:41

7 replies

tl;dr

2013-10-24 14:52

As far as I can tell they haven't touched the accuracy of the AWP at all, so this is just a massive nerf :(:(

2013-10-24 15:42

5 replies

They haven't yet. I was talking about maybe we will see that in the future. What they wanted to accomplish with this is that the scope gives players a better idea of how accurate the weapon is and how long it takes for it to get accurate again after moving/firing/scoping. They could have done that without blurring the scope to a degree where it is completely faded though. I'd prefer what Rattlesnk has also suggested, namely that the scope only kicks in as soon as the weapon is accurate and that there is no blurr whatsoever, since the accuracy while moving when scoped in isn't a problem, the problem is the accuracy when moving and then scoping in. It takes way too long for the AWP to get accurate when scoping in after moving, quick-scoping while standing still is not as accurate as it should be, no-scoping isn't accurate at all and even a double-zoomed AWP has a ridiculous spread that can make you miss shots where you are perfectly on your target.

2013-10-24 16:19

4 replies

Have to agree with you. I feel that the small delay in accuracy after moving was completely wrong, the spread (even while zoomed) is an actual joke and rather than fix that they've gone and made it worse by adding the blur. I hope there is an uproar and a petition, I fear that there won't be after reading comments on here and Reddit :( Most people are lauding Valve with credit for the AWP changes, as if systematically removing everything positive about one of the key weapons in CS:GO (in terms of, both, playing and spectating)is a step forward. Let's see how this goes with the major tournaments that are upcoming.

2013-10-24 16:38

3 replies

Yeah, the real problem with the AWP in GO is its inaccuracy. Changing the visual feedback to more accurately show how terribly off the weapon is doesn't exactly help. Especially not when the visual hint leaves you without a crosshair. The gun needs to be more accurate, the "accuracy load-up" upon zooming has to be shortened and the scope should only kick in when the weapon is ready to shoot accurately. I don't care about blurring and bobbing, as long as it doesn't fade out the crosshair completely I guess it doesn't make a difference. Of course, the question "why have it in the first place?" remains, but hey, that's GO. Also, I'd suggest staying away from reddit when you want actual debate and discussion. The nature of its "vote" system cancels out everything that is great about having people talk about stuff on the internet.

2013-10-24 16:56

2 replies

Could you explain what you said about Reddit and it's vote system? I'm not internet savvy unfortunately and Reddit seemed to be a natural progression away from HLTV (full of garbage/mindless drivel, extremely difficult to find legible English nevermind a valid response or debate, and the irony of the head honcho not actually touching CS:GO) and Cadred (hugely inactive userbase, a typical "LAD" ethos in terms of the atmosphere, and almost the same problem with the head honcho). Just stumbled onto Reddit and found helpful people, advice on changing sound settings, things to change for better visibility, constant updates in the content - pretty much polar opposites of the negatives from all the other CS:GO sites. I guess there will be a bad side? I might just be too new to see it. I've gone off at a complete tangent haha; is there any other good CS:GO sites that you could recommend?

2013-10-24 17:34

1 reply

I'm not saying HLTV is necessarily a better place to go for discussion - I do agree that the people browsing reddit are generally more willing to read, process and take part in lengthy discussions. But the vote system takes away from internet discussions the very thing that makes them unique. In "real life", words spoken are simply lost irretrievably, in the written press, only selected people get to express themselves, but if somebody expresses an opinion or argues facts on the internet, the post containing them simply is there, it is unavoidable and holds the same value as any other post. The only thing that determines its value and relevance in the context of a topic is somebody replying to it and directly entering an argument about the things mentioned. It is then possible for everyone to read, understand and come to their own conclusions and if deemed necessary add them to the matter of debate. But if somebody for example simply replies with "your opinion is bad, fuck you", the value of the post he has been replying to is not affected and the people reading the reply can come to the conclusion that the person replying has no argumentative ground for his opinion. I. e. the discussion or rather its value on platforms like this is based solely on reason, facts and argumentation. Things posted stay true until logically proven otherwise. With votes on the other hand, the value and relevance of certain posts is systematically determined prior to a conclusive discussion - posts end up at the bottom of the thread or are blanked out, people don't bother reading them, let alone replying to them with actual arguments; downvotes are simply regarded as rendering a statement useless, even though a downvote is nothing else than an empty "your opinion is bad, fuck you". People don't even bother posting statements that they know are likely to get downvoted. So you can be certain a wide variety of things there possibly are to say about a topic never come up. Threads are voted for as well, leaving topics completely untouched because nobody really bothers dealing with unpopular threads nobody else will reply to anyways. So, instead of having a discussion that is comprehensibly based solely on constructive debate and its value on actual arguments, it is based on arbitrariness in the sense of mouse clicks of people without actual input. Not even talking about the deletion behaviour of mods and admins. As for other sites, the steam forums are actually not a bad place to discuss, although it is not rare for discussions to simply drown in oblivion. As for advice on settings and general CS tips, well, the internet is full of them. These things have been out there for more than 10 years, googling will provide you with most answers you are looking for. The HLTV archives are full of useful stuff as well, and you can always open a thread with specific questions and you will get an answer on here. And what CS content are you really eager to have updated constantly? Everything important will sooner or later pop up as a news post on here and the forum is full of scene news even before they are official. I'm not saying the GO subreddit isn't a good place to check for content or news, I'm just saying the overall value of debate on there is questionable and I'd be cautious to forge an opinion solely based on things mentioned over there, let alone on their up- or downvotes.

2013-10-24 18:40

oh god

2013-10-24 11:53

Another shit update.

2013-10-24 12:05

btw how it looks IE when I am fleshed, is there also hand front my face ?

2013-10-24 12:12

-Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy. -Added eye shielding animation to players blinded by flashbangs. Valve are you kidding me? stop destroy the game and fix P90, ADADADAD players, autonoob, deagle, movement,and 128 ticks sv in MM

2013-10-24 12:16

5 replies

actually there not ADAD anymore in game.

2013-10-24 13:26

4 replies

all you have to do is go in match making and you will find someone with a p90 smashing adadad and holding m1

2013-10-24 14:08

3 replies

you cant adadad like you used to. I was spamming the hell out of wasda technique and now i cant play properly i must re-learn it from scratch. so no there is no adad

2013-10-24 14:09

2 replies

yes there is adading, just not as heavily as it used to be but it is still there

2013-10-24 14:10

there is stil adadad

2013-10-24 15:22

LMAO, AWP goes adadadad you can shoot straight while moving a little, going adadad :D:D:D:D:D CS:GO=ADADAD GAME :ASD:ASD:ASD:ASD:

2013-10-24 12:15

StatTrak now displays correct number of kills in GOTV and replays. ;D

2013-10-24 12:17

Nice update but still shit perfs :x

2013-10-24 12:19

bullshit with flashthing because now u cannot go rambo mode and pretend u are flashed they will be just laughing and thinking what is he trying to do:P

2013-10-24 12:21

CSGO HUD STIIL LOCKED DOWN?

2013-10-24 12:27

good update

2013-10-24 12:32

awp is now pretty much useless, good thing i didn't awp much anyways

2013-10-24 12:37

5 replies

say that to starix

2013-10-24 12:48

4 replies

Plz switch "head-ass"-tumbler to upper position and voilà! Starix was yesterday - AWP has gone today.

2013-10-24 13:23

3 replies

u realize it's a purely aesthetic change right? the VISUAL now reflects the actual innacuracy of the gun. nothing about the gun has changed.

2013-10-24 13:49

2 replies

Well.. I've played many years with monolith scope in 1.6 and didn't worried about "Hmm, maybe should I wait 0.1 second before shooting to make it accurate as maximal?" By the way AWP in 1.6 is WAY more inaccurate w/o scope or in moving. I bet I'm not alone with that.

2013-10-24 14:02

Please go play some awp_maps before typing anything. Before: Aim, stop and wait for the awp to be accurate, shoot Now: Stop, so you can see where you are aiming, wait for the awp to be accurte (cuz lol it's still inaccurate when the scope is visible), shoot And then, for example, strafe peeking (even when CROUCHING, when the awp is accurate), is much harder = something about the gun has changed.

2013-10-24 14:34

still don't like the thing that the guns looks bigger than player names. Either increase the size of nicknames or reduce the gun size.

2013-10-24 13:16

yes, we need this shits.... (joke)

2013-10-24 13:18

i actually liked that GOTV (and hltv in 1.6) didnt show recoil. that was just a personal preference though, im not implying that it was better. i really liked this update tbh

2013-10-24 13:25

Shitty update ! idiots from valve !

2013-10-24 13:29

2 replies

H8ers gonna h8

2013-10-24 13:36

1 reply

HLTV.org

2013-10-24 13:50

Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy.?? Are you fucking serious? cant awp for shit now

2013-10-24 13:35

6 replies

thats actually really really nice, i just tested it. You have a better control about the recoil, since you know exactly when you are able to shoot.

2013-10-24 13:56

5 replies

no thats not nice..nerf the p90 instead of the fucking awp..

2013-10-24 14:01

Everyone who has played with the awp already knew when it was inaccurate. It's now harder to use, refer to #145.

2013-10-24 14:37

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2013-10-24 15:43

2013-10-24 16:59

everyone who can handle the awp on a top level, know exactly where the center of ur crosshair is and the ppl which are new to the game are forced to stay while shooting since they can't see the scope lines. So you argument is bad and you should feel bad, because you've not played with the new scope yet.

2013-10-24 19:32

Shitty update

2013-10-24 13:37

looks like a fine update, haven't tested yet though. the eye covering animation changes the game a bit, but it's just different.

2013-10-24 13:39

now you can switch in chicken's in-eye

2013-10-24 13:47

I can understand how Volvo's politic works: they won't change anything crucial like movement till DHW13. But they can do these things at least: -Fix retarded deagle; -Re-code "xhairstyle 3" to work how it has to be(1.6-style) instead of work the same as "weapon_debug_spread_show 2"; -Make M4A1-S and USP-S "default" items(do not show them in inventory if "Hide default items" is checked); -Rare bug: sometimes you "are not buying" helmet+armor but you got -$1000 and armor is 0(common thing if you're buying it through bind "" "buy vesthelm"); -Nerf p90's accuracy in moving; -Make option to be able to change scope - with bobbing or w/o(there are options for crouching and jumping - "hold" and "toggle" so why not?) -Force flashbangs to not switching to lastinv if there is one more FB(for throwing 2 in a row like it is in 1.6). Btw: I really like new tec-9's animation. Now it goes back instead of jumping up. Seems great as for me.

2013-10-24 13:56

nice valve

2013-10-24 14:25

fix the god damn lags not tiny things like that

2013-10-24 14:30

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lags? what?

2013-10-24 14:32

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gotv ...

2013-10-24 14:33

Seems fine but the scope now becomes blur while moving? isnt that retarded sry valve but you suck POOP

2013-10-24 14:34

- StatTrak now displays correct number of kills in GOTV and replays. VICTORY!

2013-10-24 14:37

My opinion about this update: [GAMEPLAY] - Added eye shielding animation to players blinded by flashbangs. Nice addition for new players, but now it's easier to rush enemy after flash because we will know when he is full flashed and when only half (full flashed = 3rd person animation, half flashed = no 3rd person animation), and animation is underdeveloped because we have only 1 animation for all weapons and it's bad, because sometimes player model hand goes through the gun and it looks silly, the same when we are shooting with in example negev, recoil is still the same but player model is shooting only with one hand! - Fixed respawning in Deathmatch sometimes choosing a spawn point visible to players when more ideal positions were available. Good. - Fixed a bug in Deathmatch that could create weapons on the ground if a player spammed his "buy" key immediately upon respawn. Good. [SPECTATING] - Added changeable, preset camera positions for all shipped maps that are activated by selecting a player with SHIFT + 0-9 while spectating. (see developer.valvesoftware.com/...pectator_.. for more info) Great for moviemakers and for streamers to show some cool replays. - Target players now glow white when viewing from a spectator camera in ROAMING mode. Good, now we know which one we are watching. - When spectating in ROAMING mode, we now draw a subtle Aiming Vector Line that shows each player’s aiming direction. Great, this should be frist off after released grenade trajectory. Should be toggle-able so we can enable/disable it even on 1st and 3rd person camera. - Dropped C4 now glows for spectators (yellow = dropped, flashing red = planted, green = defused). Good, this should be frist off after released UI. - Added more UI during freeze time to display player money, spent money that round, and kills/assists/deaths. Great, this should be frist off after released UI. - Improved armor icons in spectator panels. Good. - Fixed recoil not being applied in GOTV and replays. Great, this should be frist off after released UI. - Fixed UI weapon image sometimes being blank in GOTV. Good. - StatTrak now displays correct number of kills in GOTV and replays. Good, this should be frist off after released StatTrak. - Reenabled the spec_goto command and fixed it not working properly if called from a key bind. Good for moviemakers. - Moved the autodirector toggle key from “+speed” to “radio3” (from SHIFT key to the C key by default). Ok, better then previous one but we should be able to disable it too, now we can't, need to jump to other player. - Streams tab now includes 6 live streams. Good, but should be more streams. [MISC] - Scope lines now blur out completely to better match the weapon's current inaccuracy. Pros = I know exactly when my sniper rifle is more accurate, Cons = it's now harder to aim when counter-strafing with sniper rifle, smts you wanted to aim even while moving, now it's really hard. - Improved Fiveseven viewmodel animation Ok. - Improved Tec-9 viewmodel animation Ok. But where are the most important changes to the gameplay (aimpunch - remove, adadad style - fix, sound consistentcy - fixes and tweaks and others)?!

2013-10-24 15:09

The eye shielding animation looks fucking retarded.

2013-10-24 15:09

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is funny how they rise the hand =))

2013-10-24 15:43

awesomeeeeeeee

2013-10-24 15:54

wtf u guys tell.....

2013-10-24 16:04

recoil in gotv looks fucking ugly

2013-10-24 16:07

Eye shielding animation? Seriously?

2013-10-24 16:17

useless update

2013-10-24 16:32

this AWP update is the most ridicilous thing ever :DD

2013-10-24 16:43

YEAH THE AWP REALLY NEEDED A NERF THANKS VALVE Fucking idiots -.-

2013-10-24 16:53

P90 is still OP. Just fix it.

2013-10-24 16:56

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P90 isn't OP. the mechanic is broken, the hitreg is broken. it's good because of it. but the P90 doesn't need tweak if we can actually spray down someone when he pops out, running in 1 direction and spraying your down without even worrying about getting shot back due to aimpunch

2013-10-24 18:25

Improve the deagle! comon!

2013-10-24 22:16

What have they changed about the AWP? I didn't notice a thing, but then again I am really, really good.

2013-10-25 09:51

Added eye shielding animation to players blinded by flashbangs. Really? Okay, now you can be pretty sure that they have no clue what to do and that they really don't care what people think, this game is doomed gameplay-wise. Have a nice day!

2013-10-25 20:40

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Indeed, the game is doomed, the gameplay is poor, the game is now dead..... oh wait?

2013-10-25 21:20

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Oh my god, I said the game is doomed gameplay-wise, the development isn't going anywhere. Did I ever say that it's dead? The scene is not the biggest for sure, you know, some people start to accept bad things with time and some don't. Valve's lack of knowledge about what made CS such a good competitive game for sure is one of the reasons why the scene is that weak, and if you don't see that, you are an ignorant twat that doesn't even have the balls to be true to himself.

2013-10-25 21:43

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Haha, does anyone know why CS became big, not even the big Gooseman knows why CS became massive, and what made the game so good. Perhaps because there is a form of nostalgia that asociates itself with the game, perhaps because for most of us, it was the first game we fellin love with. But was 1.0 to 1.6 perfect, no, they weren't and many old school players agreed that 1.5 was actually better than 1.6. At the end of the day, Valve are slowly tweaking the game and whilst you may not enjoy the updates they have been tweaking the gameplay every so often, movement was recently tweaked was it not. In just over a year they have been updating more frequently and doing some solid updates. The last couple have been aimed at the spectating aspect with good reason, there is a big tournament coming up. Your opinion is valid but calling Valve "clueless" is a little silly considering their games have been best sellers, they have won numerous awards and they are one of the worlds leading companies in this industry. I'd dare you to do better!

2013-10-26 04:10

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2013-10-26 02:26

People are idiots who cares if the flash animation is there not like you will really use it. Face it, you always throw your flash intending and thinking the opponent is flashed so after you hear your flash pop you always peek and try for the kill you arent going to peek quickly and see if his hand is raised you are just going to peek and shoot regardless if he is flashed or not. Funny how people freak out over little things.

2013-10-26 02:24

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2013-10-26 02:25