AD to miss ESEA finals; ENCE invited

27-12-2013 00:48

ESEA has announced that Astana Dragons will not able to attend the global finals due to visa problems.

The Ukrainian team had been invited to attend the season finals after über G33KZ pulled out of the tournament due to not being able to find a sponsor in time for the event.

Just 24 hours later, however, Astana Dragons have informed ESEA’s officials that they will not be able to travel to Dallas after being denied a visa to enter the United States.

To replace AD, ESEA invited ENCE, who finished seventh in the league on a 7-9 record. The Finnish side will have the next few days to confirm that they will be able to attend the event.

In case ENCE cannot make it, then ESEA will consider inviting a fifth North American side, due to time constraints.

The participants' list and the continental seeds look as follows:

1. VeryGames	1. compLexity
2. AGAiN	2. iBUYPOWER
3. LGB eSports	3. MouseSpaz
4. ENCE	4. Homeless

ez4ence

2013-12-27 00:49

ggwp probably only VG will be able to attend.. boring.

2013-12-27 00:49

ENCE BWAHAHAHAH

2013-12-27 00:50

HAHAHHAHAHAHHA GOOD!

2013-12-27 00:50

Ence lack financial support and aren't able to go so why bother to invite them?

2013-12-27 00:51

25 replies

"financial support" what are u trying to say?

2013-12-27 00:52

24 replies

they just don't have the money for the flight to Dallas

2013-12-27 00:56

23 replies

Thats why they have organization. And how you know that? rofl

2013-12-27 00:58

21 replies

and the organization don't have the money to send the player to the torunament in the usa. I guess the tickets are around 10k. there is no gain for the organizatiin to do that, unless you win the tournament.

2013-12-27 01:03

20 replies

But why would they try to qualify to a such tournament in the first place if they don't have financial support to attend the actual tournament?

2013-12-27 01:04

16 replies

thats the question for those teams. LGB aren'T able to go too because they don't have the money.

2013-12-27 01:06

13 replies

and how you know that they dont have money?

2013-12-27 01:14

1 reply

LGB already stated it

2013-12-27 01:19

how you know that LGB or Again have money to go to Dallas? Since they don't announced that they are coming yet haha lol nerd

2013-12-27 01:18

10 replies

here you go dickhead i.imgur.com/cyEFFe8.png?1

2013-12-27 01:21

9 replies

haha poor orga and also where is official news about that? ahah

2013-12-27 01:24

6 replies

go and ask LgB yourself for official statement

2013-12-27 01:29

You know they dont got a org behind them ? they started a team and got sponsor to it.

2013-12-27 04:19

haha ahah, it's lgb's manager that made that statement.

2013-12-27 11:29

you seriously have no idea how esports works if you are no big organization you just cant randomly sent 5 people around the world all the time, you need to make precise calls on which tournaments to attend and which to miss

2013-12-27 18:34

mate be quiet please, you are very annoying in this thread.

2013-12-27 18:36

haha ahah, here you go btw. hltv.org/news/11893-lgb-ence-pull-out-of..

2013-12-28 11:22

Hey that's me!

2013-12-27 03:09

1 reply

yeah thats right :D

2013-12-27 03:40

lots of benefits from playing a tournament, they don't need to be listed. They can always just shove the spot on down to the next person anyway if they can't afford it.

2013-12-27 11:39

well its fucking obvious that they have about 0.0.0.0% chance of qualifying so they just play to practice.

2013-12-27 20:11

the 10k ticket price was only last season because its been held in mid holiday season. if im right even VG didn't take the flight, because only winning in 1st place would make them end up without deficit. now its far from holiday season and the tickets are much cheaper

2013-12-27 12:04

tickets around 10000€? ahhaha are u flying in a private jet or wat? ahahahah, dumbass

2013-12-27 22:11

they do have money, and you guess wrong; it would cost around 4k€. teams aren't trying to make money through prize money, they pay for trips for advertisement. i doubt ence will send the finns, but you're still completely wrong on your assumptions. teams make money through advertising, not through their small cut of prize money.

2013-12-27 22:40

HAHAHAHA Money are ou kidding? ad can pay the travel for all teams be sure ;) PS : after being denied a visa to enter the United States.

2013-12-27 12:52

why doesnt ESEA fund teams travel as well... this drama each season

2013-12-27 00:53

10 replies

You want a league to sponsor people to attend their events?.. what

2013-12-27 04:40

9 replies

It's actually pretty regular, if you have a league before LAN finals. Like WCG and others

2013-12-27 07:14

3 replies

Can you show me a link? I can understand within the same continent (and I know they do this at times), but sponsoring flights from EU->US and back is very expensive.. It makes no financial sense for ESEA to do so.

2013-12-27 07:17

2 replies

it is like that, i think dreamhack has some travelmoney too for some teams.

2013-12-27 11:18

see #130 post msi beat finals they payed something which always helps

2013-12-27 14:27

MSI Beat It! China paid for hotel, and a hefty amount of the flights to China and back, not the whole travel expense, but enough to encourage the teams to go there and compete.

2013-12-27 10:10

3 replies

Msi china paid 2000 per team... Not much. I would like to see EU teams actually make an attempt and have 4 teams show up for once. Have them come out of pocket before ESEA just comes out of pocket for them. If anything NA teams should get all expenses paid as NA was the sole supporter of ESEA for years, until a couple years ago when esea came back to EU (Europeans didn't want to pay the 7 bucks the first time esea tried going international) If this continues then esea should just do without their global league and NA teams can continue to man up and take the trip over the pond for some NA vs EU action.

2013-12-27 16:55

2 replies

€2,000 goes a long way though + hotels being paid for.

2013-12-27 19:37

1 reply

Esea has a discounted price on the hotel rooms. It something like 80 bucks a night,,, the event is hosted in the same hotel players stay.

2013-12-27 20:53

there are many tournaments in other games where they give out funds to certain teams winning qualifiers or similar events before the main tournament

2013-12-27 18:38

Sad, I wanted to see them playing on this tournament. What about NaVi, SK, fnatic, NiP, CW?

2013-12-27 00:54

1 reply

fnatic dropped out already like NiP,SK and navi "über G33KZ (CW) pulled out of the tournament due to not being able to find a sponsor in time for the event."

2013-12-27 00:57

good for americans

2013-12-27 00:55

America is fooking lol with all the denied visas... sigh.

2013-12-27 00:58

It's not the first time that some of these players have been refused to enter the USA, Virtus.pro was denied as well at the time... Paranoia much?

2013-12-27 01:00

1 reply

I think it was all about passport problem, because it was damaged too badly or smth like that. Story could be repeated, who knows ;]

2013-12-27 01:03

Just asking - why don't NiP or Fnatic go there?

2013-12-27 01:03

4 replies

NiP are on holiday in January. Fnatic dropped out of ESEA to practice.

2013-12-27 01:15

3 replies

Thank you Aluminati :)

2013-12-27 01:23

1 reply

Nip had dropped out to focus on dhw early on

2013-12-27 04:11

worked out fine for both of the two teams who placed 2nd and 1st at dhw ;)

2013-12-27 11:19

OKOK I understand that "let's try to invite the next team on list" but come on.. ENCE? Seriously lately these teams have been great: Na`Vi, gamepub(?) and idk.. Seriously ENCE will most likely just get raped.

2013-12-27 01:05

1 reply

Don't be a retard...

2013-12-27 02:41

GL ENCE! =)

2013-12-27 01:08

rofl

2013-12-27 01:17

ESEA need to only do global finals once a year. EU and NA teams cant all afford to travel to the finals numerous times a year its fucking pointless. Should just have ESEA EU and NA finals seperately for the other seasons. Finals for EU to be played at Dreamhack or something instead instead of this mess every time.

2013-12-27 01:24

5 replies

2013-12-27 01:25

i think we should have some team skins like fnatic skins for example ingame so some of us could buy them and possibly support the organisations too.

2013-12-27 05:49

3 replies

That's a pretty good idea actually, being able to support the organizations in-game while also making money for prize pools would be really good. Would probably be difficult for valve to organize though

2013-12-27 08:46

1 reply

It is not that difficult. In Dota 2 you already have skins supporting some teams (for example NAVI).

2013-12-27 12:41

2013-12-27 14:32

I called it. Now if VG doesn't hook up with an org that is willing to spend 10k right off the bat by ESEA finals it's going to be an all-American final. (lol)

2013-12-27 01:23

1 reply

vg have already confirmed they are going.

2013-12-27 17:18

Wonder who gets invited next..

2013-12-27 01:24

hahahaha AD got owned xDD and now another shit team join xD at least - ENCE + ETERNiTY gaming xD

2013-12-27 01:26

2ez4Ex6TenZ now >

2013-12-27 01:30

Hope natu&co decide to go but I'm afraid they won't get enough money from chibulis :(

2013-12-27 01:32

lol gl ENCE, but doubt they can go far! should've invited NAVI instead :(

2013-12-27 01:39

4 replies

Told you,AD gone for good.

2013-12-27 07:01

There is a high possibility of NaVi attending this finals

2013-12-27 11:36

2 replies

there is 0 possibility.

2013-12-27 17:20

doubt they get the requested visa in time

2013-12-27 18:39

again visa problems with usa.. btw I doubt ence will be able to attend either

2013-12-27 01:48

inb4 ENCE replaced by xxx

2013-12-27 01:49

I bet AGAiN will drop out as well Only winning team from EU will earn some money

2013-12-27 02:15

2 replies

AGAiN have money from SLTV final 7,500$ so i think they gonna attend to the finals

2013-12-27 15:27

1 reply

I suppose they have a lots more money than 7,500$ from SLTV, which I doubt they already got. The question is "Is it worth to waste time and money for this trip?" Well maybe they'll go for practice and to show snax and byaly how looks America:D

2013-12-27 15:37

ENCE :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2013-12-27 02:35

ESEA should do something like cpl. They should have 2 majors tours (1 spring, 1 autumn) those seasons have cheaper tickets. And they should do something like an online league (like they have now) but with more teams and more matches. E.g from 1st feb to 1st april the online league, and then the top four go to US for the finals. Equally 1st september to 1st november etc.

2013-12-27 02:40

1 reply

+1, and maybe this is a bad idea, I'm not sure, but if they have 2 finals a year, they could do one in US, one in EU, but maybe that isn't possible as esea is american company and they can only fund for US tournaments?

2013-12-27 02:45

Do it like MSI BeatIt did. Lower the price pool and pay for the eu teams' travel expences. In the end you got to be certain you're actually gonna get a top 2 finish for the trip to even be worth it.. Organizations wont waste 10k ++. Thought even people at ESEA were aware of this..

2013-12-27 02:44

valve need to put the money towards esea as well so even coming 5-8th will get money back from flights ~ $300000 tournament.

2013-12-27 02:46

1 reply

How could Valve associate itself with an organization known for installing spyware on user computers (with the purpose of financial gain)?

2013-12-27 10:26

nice

2013-12-27 02:52

Atleast ence will get some flight loyalty points

2013-12-27 03:12

gl ence

2013-12-27 03:46

Could just host the tournament in Canada instead, then nobody has visa issues..

2013-12-27 04:23

last time i checked the euro > us dollar and still poor euro's cant make it to a beautiful city and weather....

2013-12-27 05:01

1 reply

Not sure if your a complete retard or just american... but do you really believe that people pay with dollars in their own country just because they are about to travel to America?

2013-12-27 12:05

ence what a joke, retire already!

2013-12-27 05:23

2 replies

hey that's a good idea! lets just make all the teams that don't win constantly retire!...that way we could only have teams that win....but wait a minute....how could we....have teams that win all the time play againts other teams that win all the time......i dont know....im confused... :(

2013-12-27 05:40

1 reply

2013-12-27 12:34

VG easy peasy !

2013-12-27 05:38

Dat visa policies, and hosting tournament in January when air ticket prices are doubled, and dat drama every month... ESEA should rethink what they're doing, that is getting ridiculous.

2013-12-27 05:43

3 replies

If there was some serious competition to ESEA in NA then they would HAVE to change policies. Nobody is funding any other serious leagues right now though :(

2013-12-27 06:15

1 reply

denied in 24 hours ?

2013-12-27 08:50

in january tickets are cheaper then in december :)

2013-12-27 15:28

Someone actually thought they were going? lol

2013-12-27 06:40

expected. lmao ESEA

2013-12-27 06:43

damm visa... sad

2013-12-27 06:58

Even Ence looks strong vs all top US ...

2013-12-27 07:00

BAHHAHAAHAHAHAH. Who's next to come? GamePub? Or maybe kick? lelelelelel

2013-12-27 07:25

ESEA without EU teams ~_~

2013-12-27 07:33

lal

2013-12-27 07:59

sponsors make this game alive. not events.

2013-12-27 08:45

highly doubt again or ence will make it, it is way too short notice to find cheap plane tickets. only vg will go and the rest will be american teams

2013-12-27 08:52

1 reply

Vg are poor they released csgo team cause of no money. They poorer then any organisation

2013-12-27 09:43

LOL invite GP...

2013-12-27 08:59

1 reply

they are good at LAN, proved by AD

2013-12-27 09:26

H@H@H@H@H@H FUCK AD! HOORAY, GO Finland!

2013-12-27 09:05

good news, they would have get raped anyway

2013-12-27 09:15

haha, so bad

2013-12-27 09:16

wow so unexpected lol

2013-12-27 09:24

Next season im going to jusss save hellla money and winout on a esea IM team or shit then tell esea my IM team can go :D Jk! But, next year illl help a team who cant attend even though i told device on steam id help. They could have lanned at my house in cali! Better news yet is mOE to lan :)?

2013-12-27 09:30

VG have no money how can they go.

2013-12-27 09:42

2 replies

Maybe cos they are already picked up by another org ?

2013-12-27 10:43

fragbite.se/cs/news/33925/fd-vg-med-nytt..

2013-12-27 18:06

-ence +gamepub

2013-12-27 10:09

AD saving strats for IEM Katowice xD

2013-12-27 10:23

Finnair's flight loaylty points > LAN

2013-12-27 10:29

hahaha nice troll for AD xD

2013-12-27 10:34

axaaxaxaxaxaxax

2013-12-27 10:37

Just give the spot to Nostalgie...

2013-12-27 10:40

visa problem? wtf?

2013-12-27 10:43

2 replies

To be allowed entry into the united states you have to apply for a visa which allows you to stay up for 90 days.

2013-12-27 12:10

1 reply

year/two/five

2013-12-27 16:12

OVERDRIVE can buy the whole tournament

2013-12-27 10:45

Just give the money to VG already....

2013-12-27 11:16

ENCE..... worst shit ever

2013-12-27 11:58

good start to the year for vg's new orga. Easy top $ win :) nais

2013-12-27 12:04

easy money for VG

2013-12-27 12:28

next up: ENCE to miss ESEA finals; NiP invited ESEA has announced that ENCE will not be able to attend the global finals due to no flights to Dallas (where the event will be held), being available. The Finnish team had been invited to attend the season finals after Astana Dragons pulled out of the tournament due to not having a valid visa. Just 24 hours later, however, ENCE have informed ESEA’s officials that they will not be able to travel to Dallas. To replace ENCE, ESEA invited NiP, who didn't even participate in this season, but still they believed it was the most viable choice In case NiP cannot make it, then ESEA will invite DB9K (HitmaN will make a comeback, even though he is banned.)

2013-12-27 12:43

2 replies

hahaha

2013-12-27 12:46

1 reply

first ESEA should ask "Who has money and wants to spend them to arrive to big America?"

2013-12-27 13:32

CIS superteam. Top3 fo sho.

2013-12-27 13:17

glhf ence

2013-12-27 14:02

omg, it would be the worst esea with worst EU all-star lineup?

2013-12-27 14:02

Now that allu is back from civil service, i think ENCE is going to start practicing and playing their A-game...

2013-12-27 14:21

Just splash some of the bitcoin money and pay for flights omfg

2013-12-27 14:37

last time only NiP could attend it,there are only a few orgs that can actually afford it and lgb,"again",vg are not among them

2013-12-27 14:44

Next news: ENCE to miss ESEA finals due to not being able to find a sponsor in time for the event.

2013-12-27 14:52

1 reply

rofl, they have sponsors already Benq,steelseries,jimms etc?

2013-12-27 18:33

Cya Russians, your "cyka blyat" in matchmaking cost you a top 8 position.

2013-12-27 14:56

AGAiN vs iBuyPower again :D

2013-12-27 14:57

still 1.VG 2. AGAiN 3. coL

2013-12-27 14:59

next AGAiN to not attend ESEA I don't think they will find a good orga, at least now.

2013-12-27 15:04

3 replies

they just won 7,500$ in SLTV final I think they gonna attend

2013-12-27 15:30

2 replies

7.5000 is like 3 tickets to dallas breh

2013-12-27 20:20

1 reply

nice joke bro. My friend all the time flying to Denver ( his matter life there ) and its like 4,000 PLN ( ~ 1,250 $ ) in both way ~1,250 x 5 = 6,250 $ + some extra cash to tickets coz they are fly to dallas still it will be less then 7500 $

2013-12-28 11:55

lal ad disband col vs vg - 1st place

2013-12-27 15:24

I remember VG "closing its doors" a couple of weeks ago. Guys paying for the trip from their own pockets or orga is still alive?

2013-12-27 15:38

2 replies

pockets or new orga.

2013-12-27 18:49

1 reply

Im pretty sure it was the 31st of December they shut down.

2013-12-27 20:28

Dosia - rapist

2013-12-27 16:17

HAHA THIS IS SO FUNNY.. i wonder what team finally shows op there,, a kindergarten team ?

2013-12-27 16:26

This ESEA global is becoming fairly pointless. Supposed to be such a 'prestigious' even, yet the top qualified/best teams from Europe arnt even attending. Sad! :(

2013-12-27 17:06

team derp anyways, would have been last at the event so i can see why.

2013-12-27 18:13

Stop inviting this punching bag team,u are ruining the scene by doing this. Invite some upcoming teams like GP (not saying this only cause im Serbian,but i also think all the new(upcoming) teams should get the chance,like GP got in the previous event) that can do some damage and make the scene better. This is the 2nd time ive noticed that they are invited and just get bashed everytime they try to get up the banana,even with the chickens. Its pointless.

2013-12-27 18:19

5 replies

"To replace AD, ESEA invited ENCE, who finished seventh in the league on a 7-9 record." nothing to do, retard

2013-12-27 18:32

4 replies

did your mom taught u to talk like that? that is not nice

2013-12-27 20:24

3 replies

my mom told me 'speak always like that if someone is so retarded like you'

2013-12-27 20:26

2 replies

"someone is so retarted like you", so you mom told you that you are a retard? damn im sorry for you:(

2013-12-27 21:30

hm,doesnt matter. u stupid

2013-12-27 21:44

next news: ENCE unable to attend. some other random team invited

2013-12-27 18:22

3 replies

exactly my thought :D Esea could easily just invite 2 other teams from the US

2013-12-27 18:41

ENCE is already random :D

2013-12-27 18:50

1 reply

2013-12-27 19:20

I dont think people realize the cost behind one of theese trips to Dallas :)

2013-12-27 18:32

2 replies

I think they cover the travel cost ( flight + hotel) ?? Please advise

2013-12-27 19:19

1 reply

They dont.

2013-12-27 20:26

EU top 2:vG , nip Other teams are pretty close : ad , navi, fanatic , again , the Danish team( can't remember ), LGB

2013-12-27 19:18

why invite ence when u can invite fnatic? xD or any other good team xD

2013-12-27 19:30

1 reply

because ence replace fnatic in esea fucking tard

2013-12-27 20:19

They dont cover cost's :D

2013-12-27 19:38

ence top 1

2013-12-27 20:21

Every eu-team to miss ESEA finals; kerchNet invited

2013-12-27 20:43

they would have lost anyways.

2013-12-27 21:38

no aslak no win

2013-12-27 21:40

So sad that the european lineup is so week, the organisation behind the tournament, should have paid the travel and hotel for attending teams.

2013-12-28 14:45

AGAiN will make it while they are waiting on n!faculty to respond

2013-12-30 00:26

gl !

2013-12-30 21:47

maybe pay for travel with bitcoins? or trade in your fried PC's

2014-01-03 05:28

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