P. Dynamics comment on cLy ban

1-7-2014 18:03

Planetkey Dynamics have issued a statement to comment on the VAC ban that has been handed to Anil "cLy" Gülec.

Yesterday, the German CS:GO scene was rocked by the news that Gülec, one of the most experienced players in the country, with previous spells in teams like mouz and TCM-Gaming, had been banned.

Later that day, he commented on the matter, stressing that there had been no wrongdoing on his part and that he remained unnaware of what might have triggered the ban.

Planetkey Dynamics' management have now issued a statement about Gülec's ban to reiterate their support for the player and say that they have contacted Valve for more information about this issue.

"Is it not true that cLy was banned from G3 qualifier because of cheating," a Planetkey Dynamics statement read.

"After some discussions with M3lm0th (GFinity CEO), we were informed that our team could participate again and that team had been banned because of a comment on hltv.org.

"We have the chatlog but we dont want to publish that because of data protection. We signed up for the second qualifier as well but we could not take part in it because some guys did not have the time to play on that day.

"We can only mention that cLy is not banned in ESL and that his VAC ban is shocking. In ESL, he always plays with WIRE on and he has performed well on LAN in various famous teams.

"If the ban is justified or not after the latest ban-wave remains unclear, especially because other known players from known organisations were banned as well. We have contacted Valve and we hope for a quick clarification about this.

"As an organisation we will continue to follow this matter closely and we want to emphasize that cLy has our confidence and that of our team, and that we hope this is just a mistake."

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n1 want to thank my mom and dad ty every1

2014-07-01 18:05

5 replies

gratz :)

2014-07-01 18:14

Inb4 writing "n1" then when he realized he was n1 he added the remaining parts :DD

2014-07-01 20:40

2 replies

Your job here is done Captain.

2014-07-01 20:56

no shit sherlock

2014-07-01 21:59

hi all im replying the first comment

2014-07-01 21:28

lel

2014-07-01 18:04

5 replies

i.imgur.com/netCwu4.jpg that´s legit, right? D:

2014-07-01 20:23

3 replies

cLegyt

2014-07-01 20:34

Except if he really followed that head through the wall which I don't think he would be stupid enough to do, then just a screenshot isn't proving anything at all... If he just strafed with his crosshair at head-height which any good player can do then this is definitely something that can happen to anyone. I'm sure that if you watch a few demos from f0rest or GTR you'd see that as well.

2014-07-01 21:00

1 reply

He did, and the suspicious thing is that the T guy was crouching and the crosshair was on his head and not at headshot level. He cheated that match, end of the story.

2014-07-01 21:06

ESL Wire is srs bsns

2014-07-01 22:26

2014-07-01 18:04

he doesn't cheat

2014-07-01 18:05

33 replies

He is just a time traveler that dodges grenades.

2014-07-01 18:07

32 replies

One fishy thing in a whole demo

2014-07-01 18:18

30 replies

and a VAC ban xD

2014-07-01 18:31

2 replies

Is that you sherlock?

2014-07-01 18:48

1 reply

no just Dr. Watson ...

2014-07-01 20:43

You know what is subtle cheating? When you're semi-pro it's not that hard to subtle-cheating, just on/off wh when you need info.

2014-07-01 18:34

8 replies

If you would watch every pros/semi-pros demo after every game you would find fishy things in every one of them. One weird action is not enough to say someone's cheating.

2014-07-01 18:48

7 replies

Yes that's true. What about VAC ban?

2014-07-01 19:01

1 reply

VAC ban surely mistake. No signs of cheating at all, right?

2014-07-01 19:18

Streamers should take X-ray of more and not just for 10-20 seconds, but a round or two. Then people will spot alot of fishy things imo

2014-07-01 19:40

No you wouldn't, not anything close to that fishy. If you can provide one instance where the fishy moment for cLy could be legit, please, do so. I'd LOVE to read about it.

2014-07-01 20:53

3 replies

"No you wouldn't" Alright, proves enough how much you know.

2014-07-01 21:15

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I've seen demos, and live streams of pros at LAN, they've never done anything that fishy. If one has, please show me a video/something. Thanks for trying.

2014-07-01 21:58

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You're new to cs aren't you? No, I'm not going to look up anything fishy for you, this is just a meaningless conversation. Just download anyones demo on the site and look it trough with xray and you'll find something fishy, hf.

2014-07-01 22:01

He did it twice

2014-07-01 18:45

2 replies

Thats why its fishy..

2014-07-01 18:46

1 reply

His blatantly unexplained pre-nade dodging skills is fishy by itself. The fact he made it twice makes it one step beyond.

2014-07-01 18:58

Yeah and he refused to upload dat nuke demo i wonder why

2014-07-01 19:02

1 reply

Didn't he have like 10 frags or something on nuke?

2014-07-01 19:31

That one "fishy" thing proved it, why are people so ignorant to that simple fact? I'm sorry but you don't suddenly "move back" to dodge something, while it's mid air, and you can't see it coming. It doesn't happen without cheats.

2014-07-01 20:52

12 replies

Just as it could be cheat it could be a coincidence, you don't know, now shut it.

2014-07-01 21:16

11 replies

LOL. Please. If you can't tell then you're bad AND dumb. But go right ahead, think he's legit.

2014-07-01 21:59

8 replies

I don't think he's legit or cheats, I have no idea, could be both. But this sequence doesn't mean anything since it could be a coincidence just much as it could be cheat. If the VAC ban stands he cheated, if VAC did a mistake he didn't, this is what I think.

2014-07-01 22:03

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I don't care about his VAC ban, tbh VAC sucks ass, 99% of the time they don't ban for no reason though, just saying. It does mean something if you're not bad at the game and just have common sense in general. The nade was mid air, made no sound, he wasn't checking B (he made it look like he did, for 1? second) with 2 teammates in B already, yet he did a dodge motion prior to EVER seeing the nade. It's blatant as hell. There is no coincidence here, it is pure blatant.

2014-07-01 22:05

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99%, could you give me those figures, thx. I've been busting cheaters since 1.5, been admin on gaming websites (gamers.nu), cups, servers. I know whats cheat and whats not, this is not blatant at all, this could be cheat and this could be a coincidence. Since there's literally nothing else weird in the video imo I can't say that he cheats.

2014-07-01 22:09

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There are other moments in that hollywood YT production, but i rather see the real demo instead of some exerts on YT, but the double nade dodge is obvious imo.

2014-07-01 22:12

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Since they didn't give the demo this video is all we have to go on.

2014-07-01 22:13

I'm sure you have, and who are you? if it's your job to catch cheaters then you're bad at it, considering this WAS blatant. I've been playing since the end of 02 or the beginning of 03, have seen many cheaters. There is no coincidence or "this could be cheats" because IT IS cheats. There are quite a few fishy things he does, so please watch it again or shut the hell up. Continue to be bad at catching cheaters.

2014-07-01 22:23

2 replies

Oh dear.

2014-07-01 22:24

1 reply

What? please enlighten me.

2014-07-01 22:28

For me it looks like he checks B - Doors then more forward, then back and check b-doors and forward again. I dont even think its fishy, its just good (bad) timing and a hugg amount of luck and coinsidence

2014-07-01 23:11

1 reply

No, just no.

2014-07-02 02:16

he was cheating 100.00 %

2014-07-01 19:05

2014-07-01 18:05

I can't believe these narrow minded retards protect him. Just fucking kick him already and deny him any access to anything CS. Tired of this lowlife scum.

2014-07-01 18:05

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why does it matter so much to you that he gets kicked?if the team still wants him its their decision not yours,im not defending him ,in fact i always said that this guy was an onliner,but i dont know why people get so pissed about things that are totally out of their area of interest

2014-07-01 18:08

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Because cheating is a disease and they should be exterminated no matter who cheats. I dont even care, if they want him in the team still, then they're simply retarded. There's nothing more to it.

2014-07-01 18:11

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i cheat

2014-07-01 21:51

because you dont sweep dirt under a rug, you get rid of it!

2014-07-01 18:35

welcome to the internet! noone will be your guide!

2014-07-01 20:45

+111111111

2014-07-01 18:12

narrow minded? Standing by someone who has evidence on the chance that there was a mistake instead of just kicking him right away sounds open minded to me. It might not be the right choice, but that doesn't make it narrow minded.

2014-07-01 18:28

You seem like the narrow minded person here.

2014-07-01 19:36

Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't cheat.

2014-07-01 18:06

because admin is hater of turks.

2014-07-01 18:06

"If the ban is justified or not after the latest ban-wave remains unclear, especially because other known players from known organisations were banned as well." Can someone name me those, or is it just straight bullshit?

2014-07-01 18:06

5 replies

Planetkey Dynamics is making a fool of themselves with statements like this. Known players are special snowflakes with no intcentive to cheat herp derp

2014-07-01 18:09

Zaider and moxxi, danish know hacker duo from 1.6 :)

2014-07-01 19:18

3 replies

WHAT? Did they get banned AGAIN? Hahhaha what the fuck

2014-07-01 19:47

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yes :DdDd both vacced :DdDddDd

2014-07-01 21:07

But they dont fit the "Known players from known organisations" part..

2014-07-01 19:54

just like fetish said

2014-07-01 18:07

1 reply

What did he say??

2014-07-01 18:36

Come on...

2014-07-01 18:07

LIKE URUGUAY WITH SUAREZ LEL

2014-07-01 18:08

in that video i don't think he cheated tbh but he might have in other games we don't even know so i really wonder what will come on this situation

2014-07-01 18:09

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29:12 - grenades dodges. coincidence?

2014-07-01 18:12

7 replies

well still i mean basicly that entire video isn't saying much imo ok the nades are weird but still it's not like it's impossible he was just holding and checking sometimes i mean

2014-07-01 18:19

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Get your eyes checked? he didn't check anything, and even if he did, there was a smoke in mid doors. The nade was mid air, no sound was made, yet he dodges it. And it's got nothing to do with reflexes either, because he started dodging before the nade was even seen.

2014-07-01 20:59

It does look weird but he does the same exact b checking move 2-3 times after the greande comes so he could be doing it regularly and timing just got right. Download any pov demo of any pro player and you can spot a few weird things like this easily.

2014-07-01 18:27

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Yeah I know, but VAC ban + these actions = coincidence?

2014-07-01 18:30

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Yeah but if VAC ban is false positive then video doesn't really mean anything. In theese type of situations innocent until proven guilty approach should be taken IMO The truth will come to light but killing a mans reputation and credibility among community is not something you can just fix later is all i'm saying.

2014-07-01 18:38

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Well, the video itself is pretty dodgy, now vac banned... i think its proven guilty! SO I WILL SAY WHAT I ALWAYS SAY ABOUT CLY: YOUR SHITTY CARRIER IS OVER

2014-07-01 21:49

B checking move, with 2 teammates inside the site? yeah, no. He's cheating, people need to quit defending him and see how blatant that one single screw up was.

2014-07-01 21:00

Come on mate, wake up from your sweet lullaby dream... I and several others have asked for the demo from the particular game mentioned here, but the demo was never uploaded only some hollywood exerts on youtube...

2014-07-01 19:01

well who are the 'other known players from known organisations'?

2014-07-01 18:09

4 replies

2014-07-01 18:11

2014-07-01 18:16

i know nooky and hossa from ex mTw got vacced a while ago, i still remember Fetish being butt-hurt over it because he hated germans ever since he started playing CS

2014-07-01 18:19

1 reply

yet nooky is fine on HLTV Official stream list.

2014-07-01 18:38

"other known players from known organisations were banned as well" LOL maybe want to said... other known cheaters from past get banned too?

2014-07-01 18:12

1 reply

Its also a way of bringing the ban into question, its called damage control...

2014-07-01 19:02

just kick him and get it over with. all these excuses are getting ridiculous.

2014-07-01 18:13

Bans don't just occur as an accident. If he's VAC banned it's justified.

2014-07-01 18:14

6 replies

Because it hasn't happened before that people got VAC banned for nothing..

2014-07-01 18:17

4 replies

That dodgy video and this VAC ban.. I'm sure it's not a mistake, if it is then I'm deeply sorry.

2014-07-01 18:20

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I don't think its a mistake aswell, but you can't be sure.

2014-07-01 18:52

Yes it happened once in cod mw2 and it banned 11k people because of an update in the game file. Other than that I don't remember vac making any mistakes.

2014-07-01 18:48

1 reply

It banned counter strike players aswell some time ago, they removed all cs VAC bans during that time.

2014-07-01 18:51

you just need to change a game file or whatever to get a vac ban so keep it low he didnt get caught by a proper anticheat yet its VAC u know impossible to cheat..cough

2014-07-01 18:20

so cute

2014-07-01 18:15

its VAC ban... and if you would know anything about VAC it should be clear that had something illegal running... there is no doubt

2014-07-01 18:19

if cLy gets away yet another time, i will be so mad....

2014-07-01 18:19

A very good approach from the organization, VAC is really unstable sometime this year there was a ban wave and Valve had do unban people because the bans were free! Hope everything plans out good for both sides!

2014-07-01 18:23

2 replies

When was the false ban wave?

2014-07-01 18:49

1 reply

I don't remember exactly, but there was one this year, i got banned and 3 of mine friends and now we're unbanned :)

2014-07-01 18:55

VAC is so bad. I wouldnt surprised if its a mistake. But I wouldnt be surprised if its true either. 50/50 imo.

2014-07-01 18:24

4 replies

so nothing suprises you?

2014-07-01 18:28

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oonagi

2014-07-01 18:35

Of course not. I am psychic.

2014-07-01 19:11

I bet they know who is cLy and I'm sure they checked logs about his account to be sure it's not a false-ban.

2014-07-01 18:31

kick the cheater

2014-07-01 18:27

"We can only mention that cLy is not banned in ESL and that his VAC ban is shocking. In ESL, he always plays with WIRE on and he has performed well on LAN in various famous teams." When will people understand this? performing well on lan doesn't really mean you don't cheat. It's stupid that a CEO believes so, and who knows ? maybe he cheated on lan? didn't f0rest find hacks on his pc?

2014-07-01 18:30

7 replies

you can cheat on wire, ceo is a german they all cheat

2014-07-01 19:52

6 replies

You can cheat on every anti cheat, im just trying to say that him performing well on lan doesn't really mean he doesn't cheat.

2014-07-01 20:20

5 replies

The sad part is even if he has/can perform well on LAN, why cheat at all online? there is zero justification for it, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

2014-07-01 21:02

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Some people are just like that, they are paranoid the first guy that kills them online they will put it in their heads that he's cheating and just cheat back. And no cLy was never as good on lan as he was online.

2014-07-01 21:25

3 replies

I honestly never heard of him before seeing it on HLTV, so yeah, no clue if he's decent at LAN or gets destroyed. I just fine it funny people are so stupid as to believe he's legit in this video.

2014-07-01 22:01

2 replies

To be completely honest, I didn't see the whole video. The nade scene wasn't enough to determine if he was cheating or not it could have been a miscall by one of his teammates you couldn't tell honestly. But he gets big numbers online, things that he can never pull on lan. To be honest that's a big problem in the german scene, they are online 10x better than lan. They should hold more local tournaments if you ask me.

2014-07-01 23:36

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Sorry but there is no call that could have happened for what he did, even if they did call B, which nobody was near B/assaulting it to begin with, he had 2 people there, and he didn't attempt to run to B, he avoided the incoming nade that was mid air, cause he saw it through the wall. It's pretty blatant.

2014-07-02 00:10

VAC STRONK

2014-07-01 18:31

DreamHack Summer 2013 0.92 rating Mad Catz Vienna 1.05 rating NorthCon 2012 0.96 rating Where did he "perform well on LAN in various famous teams" pls???

2014-07-01 18:32

6 replies

++1

2014-07-01 18:35

1.6

2014-07-01 19:31

1 reply

Care to give me more informations? I wasn't following the 1.6 scene the past few years.

2014-07-01 20:01

NorthCon 2012 0.96 rating LOL

2014-07-01 19:53

2 replies

Dood, there were great teams there ! :<

2014-07-01 20:01

1 reply

:((

2014-07-01 20:04

"we hope this is just a mistake." I hope I win the lottery. I have better chance.

2014-07-01 18:34

what was the comment on hltv

2014-07-01 18:39

1 reply

wtf are you want dude?

2014-07-01 21:01

"we hope this is just a mistake." I hope I win the lottery. I have better chance.

2014-07-01 18:40

Is this true? Are you seriously supporting him? Do you really believe that it was an accident that he got banned? This is even worse than Uruguay defending Suarez. You are defending a shit-german who got VAC-banned. Amateurs.

2014-07-01 18:41

This is shocking that guys and organisations like this pissing on Valve work and support cheaters. What this guys talking about? Cheater cheated, ban deserves, if im with valve i would never answer them! How i, my friends and thousand other player dont get ban, why cLy get ban?

2014-07-01 18:43

Steam wont do anything about it, so there is no points of contacting with them.

2014-07-01 18:47

LOL

2014-07-01 18:48

esl wire is worst anticheat ever

2014-07-01 18:49

So basically, even though the dirty scum has been caught by VAC they are still ignoring the fact he's been cheating and staying in denial? Guess it doesn't even matter if you cheat these days, you'll still get the benefit of the doubt and be allowed to compete with professional organisations. What an awful influence on the community Pducks are.

2014-07-01 18:51

5 replies

Pducks?

2014-07-01 19:03

Pducks?

2014-07-01 19:53

3 replies

Pdynamics. Swear there was a German team called Playing Ducks not long ago.

2014-07-01 20:13

2 replies

yea but that has nothing to do with playing ducks

2014-07-01 20:47

1 reply

...

2014-07-01 21:49

I dont think he cheated VS HSBG at that match.There is no obvious reason to think he cheated really.(may be successful at hiding) But i watched 3-4 times his stream at matchmaking.(I also watched lots of pro streams last 15 months like all NIP,Zeus,GuardiaN,NBK,KQLY,n0thing,Hiko,device,pasha,byali,Skadoodle near the whole list..) cLY was the most confident streaming pro at the whole matches.One time cLy scored like 45 or 48 kills at the matchmaking as a score like 15-15(at global elite rank).The other four player total kills was like 40-45 including mouz Tabsen and the other pro german girls. So i mean cLy was the most confident most dominant player at stream i have ever seen.His timings perfect.May be he didnt use aim asistance but i think generally cLy has a great radar or WH. I think he is good player at least Troubley,Tabsen,Legija,asmo without cheats.But using cheats can not acceptable and also disgusting.

2014-07-01 18:58

2 replies

how can he use radar or WH while streaming ?

2014-07-01 21:07

1 reply

Streaming doesnt means that all screen captured what monitor viewing.Some broadcast programs get the video from GPU source directly.Cheats may overlay what GPU proccessed view. As a result you may see from stream everything normal but cheater may playing like sv_cheats 1 and r_drawviewmodel 2(wallhack) Its most likely possible. Note:RIP English.

2014-07-01 21:31

guys cly is cheater,one thing is clear the only lan he atended in cs:go on that computer f0rest found organer(hack) on PC that cly was playing on so no stupid coments.

2014-07-01 18:59

1 reply

where u got this? info?

2014-07-01 19:14

VAC dont ban for the possibility of cheating, it bans cuz something triggered it. I can't imagine Valve taking the ban, if they do that a lot of people will request the same thing.

2014-07-01 18:59

GERMAN player not banned at ESL ? it can NOT be true... Not banned at ESL, not cheating for sure. Lets leave him alone. Every cheating person and especially German players gets ban if they even start thinking about using cheat,even before launching. THANKS GOD that best leage on earht which is ESL has the best ANTYCHEAT in buissnes.

2014-07-01 18:59

"we hope this is just a mistake." I hope I win the lottery. I have better chance.

2014-07-01 19:00

ESL please do what FIFA did to SUAREZ!

2014-07-01 19:01

1 reply

LOL

2014-07-01 19:07

Sonic hacks confirmed.

2014-07-01 19:02

cLy didn't hack and Suarez didn't bite Chielini. Just move on. BTW buy a new account

2014-07-01 19:03

1 reply

He missed summer sales, its more expensive now to buy a new account and cheats

2014-07-01 19:05

jesus who the hell cares

2014-07-01 19:03

my friend who doesnt cheat got banned by vac aswell..

2014-07-01 19:18

1 reply

Your friend Cheats, sorry i have to break it to you

2014-07-01 20:44

fetish was right, no repercussions for this idiot

2014-07-01 19:21

Dodging nades was so suspicious, have 2 teammates at B, when dodging the nades he looks at B but the 3 looks doesn't even last 1 second so it was only to dodge the nades, also the third one was to make some drama as there were only 2 nades, also in the demo I saw him rushing some places without even checking some important corners which makes it more suspicious, this is only an opinion & hope you understand.

2014-07-01 19:21

guys its obvious, its his dog cheating while cly doesnt play or somewhere outside home. its dawgs fault(

2014-07-01 19:25

youtube.com/watch?v=nH2nKVDx8b4 All I can say

2014-07-01 19:34

3 replies

never click this guy's links, ever

2014-07-01 19:53

I can feel the cadred memories flowing.

2014-07-01 19:54

wot

2014-07-04 00:16

youtube.com/watch?v=g6s2WmnylwQ 29:45 - > even tho hes flashed, his crosshair keeps following the guy's head on short... without wh and 80% flashed, you cant even see the guy's head... its just a fucking pixel oh yea, and theres a smoke there too!

2014-07-01 19:51

"especially because other known players from known organisations were banned as well." what other known players are banned?

2014-07-01 20:19

1 reply

Prolly no one, it just sounds good when you have to defend an individual who fucked up

2014-07-01 20:43

gfinity dream over FFS

2014-07-01 20:22

fuckin cheater(

2014-07-01 20:34

Staaaahp. Why is it that everytime some known player gets caught cheating, its either because he Got hacked or its a clearly mistake... Whats next? This is the beginning of something bad, if he gets Away with it, imagine what it could start, someone need to be the example, of what happens to dirty cheaters! Be a man, admit it, stop fucking around, you shouldve played legit.

2014-07-01 20:42

The orga is as pathetic as the players, representing it, are. The story with v3d1m4k was even cooler. Seriously, is there really anyone who questions a VAC Ban ? There were many rumors that cLy was already cheating since 1.6, especially while the time in TCM. But none really gave a fuck about. But I cant really understand why there are trying to make themselve looking more stupid than they actually already are.

2014-07-01 20:49

just... youtube.com/watch?v=7NIJLw7g23M

2014-07-01 20:55

shitty statement from a shady org.

2014-07-01 21:00

so because he performed well at lan means he doesn't cheat kk.

2014-07-01 21:12

1 question: does vac exclusively ban due to software (thats what i thought it does) or was their a review of a "human source"? thx to someone who knows about this.

2014-07-01 21:19

3 replies

Overwatch is ban for matchmaking, VAC is ban because of using 3rd party program for advantage in-game. support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?.. Players are often VAC banned after OW ban.

2014-07-01 21:40

2 replies

i said myself this demo is clean... but i gotta say if there is software detected by vac...hmmm... thx anyways.

2014-07-01 21:46

1 reply

You can't be 100% sure it's clean. Even on lan it's not 100%. 100% is only when you checked his pc with good software, but I think you know it. You're welcome.

2014-07-01 21:51

what if he got banned because of OVERWATCH? it's surely a possibility

2014-07-01 21:27

4 replies

no, u dont get VAC ban from overwatch.

2014-07-01 21:41

3 replies

Often yes, becasue ow can be faster than vac, vac ban is always delayed.

2014-07-01 21:52

2 replies

No, overwatch is convicted by the community, the community decides if you get banned or not, VAC ban is detection of a cheat infraction in your system since the community can't see whats in your system is OW ban and VAC ban are different but end in the same result aka OW ban is not shown on the profile only ingame

2014-07-01 22:44

1 reply

I know dude, but I mean often player get ow ban and after that VAC ban because it's delayed.

2014-07-02 13:25

If they play in cly in any qualif or tournament I expect Hltv, caster , players to shame them publicly over and over there is no place for scum who cheat in cs and org that support such cheaters

2014-07-01 21:32

Banned because of a HLTV comment. lel as if

2014-07-01 22:10

Planetkey Dynamics professional organization?

2014-07-01 22:49

1 reply

apparently not

2014-07-01 23:19

Cheating was more then obvious.. why are these germans so stupid like wth? Maybe he cheated like 2 months ago and just now got VAC banned... is he stupid that he really think that his cheating had to be recent and what damn team would back that stuff up like come on... VAC hardly ever makes mistakes and this shit right here is BS

2014-07-02 02:05

its shocking to me how there are so many people still calling him to be "clean". there is a 99.999% chance that he had 3rd party programs on his computer which giving him an advantage ingame, like wallhack or aimbot (RUNNING AND ACTIVE WHILE PLAYING CS:GO, not only for having them on your computer, because vac doesnt ban you then). in addition, he is known as a shady player, always better online than in lan. then we have a youtube video with missing scenes which is a desperate try to hide something (at least to me). the story with the organer on f0rest PC not to forget. for me it was clear after the video that there is something fishy. but now as there is a VAC ban in addition, what the fuck do you guys need to be convinced? you guys want to see him using organer in lan? or do you wait for a clear cheat scene? or do you wait for a ESL wire bust? that will never happen, because there are several cheats out there which are "esl wire proven" or "ESEA proven" or whatever proven... just google that shit once. cheating is a fucking BUSINESS, people earn money with that shit, what you guys think??? you will never see this guy running around oneclicking everyone, or see him obviously wallhacking someone. he uses those cheats to have a _little_ advantage, which is nearly impossible to detect. but its still CHEATING and it is still the disease of our community. and you guys cover your eyes and wave him through. shocking is the wrong word for this, it is ridiculous, it is disastrous. peace

2014-07-02 10:43

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+99999

2014-07-02 21:14

In ESL, he always plays with WIRE on and he has performed well on LAN in various famous teams. nuff said

2014-07-02 17:31

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hey! why dont we just play with ESL wire everyone and we are 100% cheatfree. in a perfect world, maybe. not even there i guess.

2014-07-03 00:02

ESL Wire doesn't mean it's impossible to cheat...

2014-07-03 16:03

"If the ban is justified or not after the latest ban-wave remains unclear, especially because other known players from known organisations were banned as well. We have contacted Valve and we hope for a quick clarification about this." I'm so much gonna look forward to what they will say. If the contact ever was made? :)

2014-07-03 13:44

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Bla bla bullsh*t they are just dragging the pain out and hoping no one will remember in a couple of weeks its a classic move by douchebag organisations.

2014-07-03 16:11

"Planetkey Dynamics' management have now issued a statement about Gülec's ban to reiterate their support for the player and say that they have contacted Valve for more information about this issue." Did Valve already respond to the VAC ban? Planetkey Dynamics you have time till 18:00 today. Because with the current situation it's controversial with cLy in the lineup for the "ESL One Qualifier". Nobody will take the match serious and I'm not even mentioned their opponents.

2014-07-03 15:59