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TO GET THE MAXIMUM OUT OF PRACTICE

Hey guys, last week we looked at how to run anti eco’s and a little bit about the money system. Anyways this week we will take a look at how could you get the maximum out of your practice clanwars.

I will just sum up what you are about to read, first of all I will tell you guys how and when we practice in mTw, furthermore who we play against, and then what we do before a official match. I will also tell you how to run tactics in pracc, and some wise words you should keep in mind when you play. This article is big, so the first part is today with how we do in mTw and so on, The second part next week, with more details about practice.

Hope you guys enjoy.

PART 1
- mTw praccs
- Who we play against in pcw mostly?
- Going through tactics
- Communication
- What we do the day we are playing a official match
mTw praccs

When we play in mTw it’s really important for us to get as much out of the practice as possible, because you don’t want to end up in an official match losing because of minor mistakes such as communication problems, or stupid misunderstandings. That’s why we use the pracc’s to get better as a team, and to minimize these mistakes so that they won’t happen when it really counts. If you lose a match because your opponents plays better than you, it’s a fair game, but you get to sit back with a bad taste in your mouth when you feel you threw the match away.

Hopefully with this article, I can help you guys with some of these problems.

It’s very simple in mTw, if we have a tournament coming up, we usually play from 17:00 CET to around 22-23:00. Sometimes we even play to like 1:00 AM, but you have to feel you get something out of your praccs, and if we do, we play as much as possible.
When we meet at 17:00, ave usually asks us to join our server, then we use 1-2 hour talking to new tactics, improving our old tactics, or talk some new CT setups on the different bombspots. It’s really important that you don’t forget the CT side, many people just make their T tacs, and forget about the CT setups, who think about how to retake a bombspot as CT nowadays? Not many people right?

And what is it about these praccs, how can you use it to become a better team, it’s very simple.

“Don’t try to win your pracc’s, try to NOT lose them”

We have being using that quote since me and hpx made the NoA lineup fully Danish. Don’t try to use your praccs to figure out how weak they are on one bombsite and then rush it 15 rounds in a row to win the pcw. Try running the tactics you guys are having problems with instead.

Another thing is when you play, and a problem comes up, try using the eco to just idle and then deal with the problem, and if two people are arguing, then let them and see if they can work things out, and if you as the tacleader can see that their argument isn’t helping anyone, then step in and ask them to deal with it after the break. It’s very important for some people to solve the problems right after they happen, because you easily forget them when the pcw is over.
And the last thing, let’s say you have a tournament coming up in a month, and you haven’t played any maps with your new team, or new tactics. So you have to work with four maps in a month. Then don’t start out playing dust2 and nuke for two weeks, and then train and inferno for the next two weeks, and then you got a problem facing a team at the tournament on dust2, with no practice on that map for two weeks. Try to play all four maps. Run tactics on dust2 and nuke first, then the next week train and inferno and the last two weeks, go through all the maps, and play all four maps as well.

Who we play against in pcw mostly?

There is a simple rule, don’t play a team you know you’re gonna run over. Play against people that are on the same level as you, or even better. You might get your ass kicked, but then you know if your tactics work. See it like this, they might be better than you guys individually, but if you win rounds because your tactics, you get confirmed that some of the things you are doing, works.

images/seekpracc.png

We in mTw play teams from top10 of Europe, and if we can’t find anyone there, we play against teams lower than that, we try to avoid Danish teams and teams we can meet in the nearest future. It’s important you avoid playing a team you might to meet in the nearest future, because then you cannot run you A-tactics.

Going through tactics

When we meet around 17:00 we join our server and then ave goes through our tactics, and let’s say we have official match against fnatic on dust2, we go through dust2 talking about the gunrounds, CT setups, 4th rounds etc. What we can improve and all kinds of things.

mTw going through tactics, before the final at SLAP LIVE #14.

When we go through tactics it’s important than you talk the CT side as well, talk about your previous pcws how things went, and what tactics you need to change, improve etc. Another thing is flashes, test some flashes and see if they work against your opponents. Ave also talks about what tactics he is going to use for the tonights match, and then we come with some input or just agree / disagree about his plan. And last, when you go through gunrounds and 4th round, it’s extremely important that everybody knows the exact point of the tactic, where to flash, where to run, everything. These 2 rounds are so important for a match, and you really don’t wanna lose it because of a misunderstanding.

Communication

Then to the most important thing probably, the communication. There is nothing worse than a guy not saying where the opponents are, right after he is dead. We in mTw have a special rule;

DEAD -> SHORT PRECISE INFO -> WHINE -> SCHH

Anyways, it’s important when you give info it’s short and precise, and for god’s sake, say if they have the bomb.

Here's an example:

Inferno

Me and mJe are covering b2 (small site) on Inferno, and sometimes the terrorists rush banana and nade towards b2, not saying they are rushing b2, but just throwing HE’s if an eventually awp were standing there. Anyways what can me and mJe do to make the round easier for us?

4 grenades towards b2:

mJe: 4 nades banana!!
zonic: I can hear them in banana!

Sunde can go to b2 and help me and mJe while we are counter flashing them so it will delay their attack, which means 3 in b2 when they are coming.
ave and whiMp can therefore go offensive hallways because there can only be 1 guy there, they have to hurry but still it would surprise the 4 terrorists if they fall back to make a b1 attack.

It’s very simple, and many of you guys think; “we knew that?” – Yeah you did, but can you improve your info when you die? Probably.

The info is extremely important, and one day I will make an article about the communication in full details.

What we do the day we are playing a official match

Personally when I am going to play an official match (important) I try not to make appointments and just focus on the game I’m going to play tonight. Some people like playing a lot before a game, some people don’t, others find it useful to drink yourself drunk before a game, who cares, what’s important is that you find your way, so you know you can perform 100%.

I usually wake up, take a shower, just stay happy, watch some demos and play with some of my friends before an important game. I don’t like playing 20 minutes before an official match, I hate it actually. I need a small break, where I just think the game through, what to do if they do this and that.

Let’s say we were meeting fnatic on dust2. Then we would probably meet around 17:00, going through our tactics, then play 1 or 2 pracc’s on the map, and if the time were 20:00 and we were playing the match at 21:00, we would download a demo of fnatic playing dust2. Then not counter their tactics 100% because you can’t expect them to play 100% like their previous match, but just be prepared that they might make a B1 split in the gunround or something like that.

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Brazil brun0000
ns one zonic.
2008-04-03 05:01
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Denmark Danny D3
zonic gotta be the most experienced, intellectual and active player Again good descriptions and i would really like to see the communication article in full details from you!
2008-04-03 05:41
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Austria Arborion
can't wait to read it as well cause that's something me and my m8s are lacking most
2008-04-03 08:35
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Venezuela biglittle007
thanks for sharing your knowledge..!
2008-04-03 08:08
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Norway begz
#4 word
2008-04-03 10:48
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Bulgaria stelko
zonic, thank u for sharing your expirience with us :)
2008-04-03 11:03
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Norway leyla
Nice on zonic
2008-04-03 11:57
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World filipfg
n1, tnx /msg mTw|zonic server on :)
2008-04-03 12:06
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Russia bS
Thanks ;] Your information helpful as always ;Pp~
2008-04-03 12:16
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Lithuania Pukinis
Thank you. Very useful info. GJ zonic!
2008-04-03 12:56
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Germany M1n1M3
i have a question. all pro teams communicating in english ? or only the spots(like banana, yellow hut) has english names ? some pro teams has players from different countries. so, if mtw signs neo(im just kidding^^), he would got probs if the team is talking danish, and for sure, the team got probs if he is talking polish :)
2008-04-03 13:07
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Estonia Vilks
I really doubt do pro teams communicate in english. It would make them think in English and therefore not being able to concentrate on the situation 100%. And about the spots, I guess they have their spots which they say in English or in their native language. I believe some may even have their own names, which are maybe shorter and more accurate. In our team, on inf, we call the way from mid to left 'kaar', it would be waste of time saying 'library side' or 'left from mid' etc. But whatever is more comfortable and better for you is ok by.
2008-04-03 14:23
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Germany M1n1M3
thx :) i just wonder that a danish team uses english names. some us-demos are really interesting because the teams are using sometimes the cs-voice. Demos are more cool when u can hear the teamvoice.
2008-04-03 14:51
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
They dont use the english names, he just translated the locations so you'd know them...
2008-04-03 16:33
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Sweden pingmasteR
and we call it jungle :o
2008-04-03 20:57
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Faroe Islands s1carius
You gotta admit, the old NoA did a brilliant job communicating in english. :)
2008-04-04 00:00
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NoA.method NoA.shaGuar NoA.Naikon NoA.knoxville NoA.XeqtR NoA.elemeNt Yes, they did really great, communicating in english
2008-04-04 03:13
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Sweden pingmasteR
But team consisting of players only from Denmark wouldn't communicate in englise tho...
2008-04-04 15:13
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Denmark Danny D3
I know. What i ment was that a team with platers from around the world can play together with good communication. Of course if the whole team is from the same counrtry they speak their native language.
2008-04-04 17:54
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Sweden pingmasteR
sure, it's all about knowledge of languages
2008-04-04 21:36
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Romania stM!
they would get a translator
2008-04-03 13:58
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Belgium doxe
IM starting a new clan with me as in-game leader . this really helps helps me . THANK YOU zonic
2008-04-03 15:18
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Netherlands AK^ WOEHOE
been ingame leader all my life :\ it's boring xD, if you make a mistake, the whole team flames on yah :D
2008-04-03 15:22
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Poland ESPEEo_O:]
what does praccs mean ? my english isn't good
2008-04-03 15:25
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Germany pyrite
short term of practice in the plural form so praccs = practices ;)
2008-04-03 16:05
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Norway walde
Very well written article.
2008-04-03 15:58
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Spain deBurrows
always interesting.
2008-04-03 17:48
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Netherlands Boomz0r
Thanks for sharing with us again. It's really good, and i now know. I'm gonna set up a document for my team members to say them what to do and what to not do in many different ways, thanks to your advice. Yours Faithfully Lars
2008-04-03 18:07
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Germany pyrite
like the article a lot :) there are good tips in it i personally would appreciate it to get some special details ;) thus looking forward to seeing an article particularly concerning in-game communications
2008-04-03 18:17
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Bulgaria Faramir
This is a very good article. I didn`t understand what 'banana' and 'nades' are :). Thanks in advance :P
2008-04-03 18:48
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Banana is on inferno, on the way to the b2 (little) bombsite.. Nades are grenades..
2008-04-03 18:57
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Bulgaria Faramir
Thank you. I have recently registered in this site and I don`t know much about these phrases in cs. They seem to be very interesting. I`d like to thx zonic once again for the way he wrote the article. It is very useful and easy to understand.
2008-04-03 19:05
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United States sHuRiN
very good info , thx a lot zonic p.s u rule like always :p
2008-04-03 19:39
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Germany hm^
n1
2008-04-03 20:13
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Serbia razaL
Thx zonic for this great stuff. Me and my clan, we are from serbia and don't really have good view on high skilled lvl playing. Serbian best clan goes to WCG and loses all matches... So your articles are very important for scene like serbian. THX and keep this great "blog" going. GL HF sry for my bad english
2008-04-03 20:14
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Sweden pingmasteR
I thought you haven't to speak when you're dead on some tournaments... Good article, keep it up!
2008-04-03 21:02
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Slovakia z0rko
kæft ham zonic er skrap :-)
2008-04-03 21:08
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Denmark Mikey^
Great article Zonic - It's really interesting to read and a great help! Looking forward to read your next articles!
2008-04-03 22:51
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Faroe Islands s1carius
Personally I think the biggest handicap clans have these days. Is when it comes to retaking a bombsite, a person will rush in, die say where they are. END OF STORY. Instead of waiting and asking his team mate, what's your position, ready to move? flash, smoke that door/hallway/entrance. Well you know what I mean..:> Something like that. Because if two or three CT's move into a bombsite together it will confuse the terrorists, whom are all probably in positions ready to help each other. Or am I wrong zonic? And what's your view on the X fire postion, where a person will try and distract and make noice from one corner and as soon as someone starts shooting at him, you have a team mate popping out from a completely diffrent corner to take him out. Anything you guys use?
2008-04-03 23:56
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Norway MiNz
You don't really catch the attention, you make the attention of the opponent focus on your position (let's say you're on the right) so the CT on the other side may be forgotten for a second. I've seen that they did this sometimes on inferno : ave (for example) keeps an eye on the corridor and as soon as he sees someone Sunde (who's standing on a box in the bp) is just wallbanging the corridor, so ave can hide and the terrorists still gets shot from somewhere he can't see (don't know if I'm a clear :p) I've seen this tactic several times, isn't it zonic ? :p
2008-04-04 02:53
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Ukraine dmi3
GJ thx man ;)
2008-04-04 09:23
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Poland ESPEEo_O:]
#20 thanks
2008-04-04 15:13
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Germany BackY
n1
2008-04-04 16:22
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Morocco hmardaboz
Thnx man for help us to improve our team play
2008-04-04 18:51
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Denmark SketzH
Good reading. But "advanced"? -no.
2008-04-04 20:50
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Poland Max^^
DAMN !! THANKS MAN !! Love your articules :) they provide a lot of tips and advise to many people! It's great to use the exp of a great player like You in the game ! :)
2008-04-04 21:09
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Zonic, gør det her for danskerne ffs.
2008-04-04 21:24
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Write in English, and as far as I know, he IS doing this for the Danish people too?
2008-04-05 05:16
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Portugal sharpp
Nice zonic :D s2 your works :]
2008-04-05 22:32
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Georgia ser-scream
nice :))
2008-04-06 01:11
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Denmark faxwingard
heh i saw u guys before the match at slap live #14 .. proudly me :P but ´good reading helps me out.. ;) and at summer me and my m8'es will get together agian.. and start playing seriously gaming.. ;)
2008-04-09 13:58
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Portugal maurf
for me zonic is a great player not just on the field but also out of him... most of players keep their thoughts and ideas to themselfs but zonic is the pure exemple that if we do our game 100% confidents in ourselfs it doesn't matter so much what the other team knows about us thank you a lot zonic by sharing your experience and talent with us gl to mtw in the future i think you have what it need's to be the the best player this year
2008-04-11 19:16
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India rndmR
just experienced some parts of the article at a huge price. :(
2009-09-21 23:44
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lol, i knew that! ...then I read "but can you improve it?" followed by a uncomfortable long silence :P
2009-09-22 00:59
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Latvia h3ro1n
Really amazing stuff.
2010-08-31 03:11
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