dignitas forfeits Hitbox Ch'ship 3 final

4-11-2014 22:35

LDLC won Hitbox Arena Championship 3 following a 2-1 victory over dignitas, who forfeited the match due to constant DDoS attacks.

In a sad ending to a tournament that had garnered much attention from the CS:GO community, Hitbox Arena Championship came to a close this Tuesday with the grand final between LDLC and dignitas, with the winner walking away with $5,000 going to the winner and $3,000 to the losing side.

The first map of this best-of-three series, de_inferno, was played out in normal conditions, except for some problems with VAC authentication system, with dignitas picking up a 16-13 victory after losing the Terrorist side 7-8 in the first half.

The problems arose during the second half of de_overpass. After dignitas had taken an 11-4 lead, Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz started experiencing DDoS attacks, which led to multiple pauses. Even after calling Jacob "⁠Pimp⁠" Winneche to fill in, dignitas felt there were no conditions to finish the match and thus forfeited the last two maps.

Hitbox Arena Championship 3Best of 3

Dignitas

Matchpage

4th November 2014

LDLC

Inferno

Overpass

Dust2

Hitbox Arena Championship 3 final standings:

1. LDLC - $5,000
2. dignitas - $3,000
3-4. Virtus.pro - $1,000
3-4. fnatic - $1,000

Below you can find some of the reactions from dignitas' players on Twitter:

Yeah default win for @TeamLDLCCSGO. Sorry to all our fans, this is not okay. Dont blame the LDLC players or the admins. Please.
— Nicolai Reedtz (@dignitasdevice) November 4, 2014

Looks like a win for @TeamLDLCCSGO and the ddos'er :D @hitboxteam wont let us play offstream, lovely admins with a ton of brainzzzzzz :D
— Henrik Christensen (@dignitasFeTiSh) November 4, 2014

After being criticised over his attitude during the match, LDLC's Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt also commented on the situation, saying:

"We need to prepare for DH Winter after fragbite Masters, so we cannot reschedule the game. We agreed to play the game on LAN, but Hitbox will not allow it," he wrote.

"If you think I am pulling a d*ck move, think whatever you want. However, you should know that dignitas did the same against another online team for the exact same reasons.

"The DDoSer is the real ass in this situation, but we cannot be nice and reschedule every single game because there is one problem every time.

"Some teams - weirdly - never have a problem online. Who is to blame?"

Sad ending...

2014-11-04 22:35

45 replies

Sorry but I wanted a high comments to say. Why is fetish flaming the admins?Why do you think hitbox has these championships?They want exposure they want people to watch the games to expand their brand and keep sponsors happy,the tems play for the prizemoney which they offer,how does it benefit them in any way shape or form for you to play an offline game? You're team have been getting ddosed for months nearly every single big game and you haven't been able to sort it out, you have had plenty of games in other tournaments were you have played offline to no benefit of those events organizers and most have been good to you and let you play offline. If I was a tourny organiser I would never invite dignitas to an online tourny ever again until they can prove they have been able to do something about their ddosing issues. I realise you cant stop the ddosers cuz you obviously would have by now but dont go about flamin the admins and organisers because its not their fault at all . ps hikosucks

2014-11-04 23:01

44 replies

It wouldnt be fucking hard to play it offline.

2014-11-04 22:59

8 replies

So they forfeit and the game doesn't get played or any viewers. Or they could play off stream on a new server with no viewers and finish the game legit. Either way they get no viewers or exposure, except now hitbox arena look stupid because they would rather have a lame finish to the tournament that deal with DDOSers

2014-11-04 23:37

6 replies

^^^^^^^^^^

2014-11-05 00:32

Just play it offline and cast over demo. Fragbite does it, its not that hard.

2014-11-05 01:02

1 reply

2014-11-05 04:30

Yeah, it was my response to why he flamed the admins. I actually betted for LDLC, but this really sucks, I could've taken that loss, its just fun to watch games and bet on them. Rather lose them honest than get them back in this shitty way.

2014-11-05 03:02

^^^ THIS! forfeiting the game leaves hitbox so bad now! and btw, i'm just one yeah.. but NBK and CSArena lost 1 follower with this move!

2014-11-05 11:21

1 reply

2014-11-05 16:33

Device Use VPN FFS !!!

2014-11-05 23:09

^^^^^^This!!!!

2014-11-04 23:03

11 replies

I would be mad as hell if i was a digntias player. They clearly had a great chance of winning the match. The admins could just have let them play offline instead of letting DDoS decide the income, making them earn money/skins this way, they will just keep doing it if it profits them. LDLC could have scheduled a rematch. It's after all a final. NBK's attitude lost me his respect aswell, maybe he should go read dupreeh's comment ( hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=672020#r662.. ) and help with a solution then if he has one since they tried everything they can.

2014-11-04 23:13

10 replies

"since they tried everything they can." Except for actually renewing their IP addresses apparently according to that.

2014-11-04 23:35

5 replies

You can't just 'change your IP' with some ISPs and if I remember correctly what Anders said, they only have 1 ISP in Denmark

2014-11-05 00:28

4 replies

Perhaps it's not as simple as with some other ISPs but obviously all ISPs have the capability to assign a new IP address to someone suffering from DDoS problems. + There are at least 3 major ISPs in Denmark.

2014-11-05 00:37

2 replies

There are three major groups, DOCSIS (YouSee, Stofa), Fiber (Pretty much all, but few can get it), xDSL (All). On DOCSIS connections you can change your IP in seconds just by changing the MAC address of the router, or the computer if you disable NAT. Both Fiber and xDSL bind the IP to the location, so you have to get the ISP to change your IP. I don't know about fiber, but the xDSL providers pretty much never do that, and if they do, it takes forever. I guess device has an xDSL connection. He should play at a friends place until he gets it sorted out.

2014-11-05 01:25

They can change your IP, but that does not mean they will do that.

2014-11-05 11:57

It's not like we're guessing at what is and isn't possible here. He said in the post that it's possible but it takes a week to get changed. Personally I don't care what they do. Sure I'd love to watch good, uninterrupted CS matches, but I'm not the one forfeiting hundreds in potential winnings over ddos issues.

2014-11-05 15:36

defaultwin means all skins will be given back to the betters tho, therefore it makes no sense to ddos for skins

2014-11-05 01:52

2 replies

what if he bet on ldlc and he didn't want to lose his skins...........

2014-11-05 02:14

you are an idiot, all the people who bet LDLC?

2014-11-05 13:55

They didn't have the time to reschedule the match though. The same thing happened a while ago with Dignitas vs Fnatic. Fnatic was getting heavily ddosed but Dignitas wouldn't reschedule. Fnatic had 2 standins get ddosed but Fetish told them they were too busy to reschedule, forcing Fnatic to forfeit.

2014-11-06 08:24

it isn't their fault but who does it benefit to completely cancel the games? nobody. not letting them play off-stream once ddos has become unavoidable only gives hitbox a bad reputation so i understand the players anger. dignitas players are also to blame for failing to do anything to prevent the attacks but i don't think much can be done if they know the ip even if they were to use a vpn. though im sure changing your ip isn't that difficult either.

2014-11-04 23:04

3 replies

"dignitas players are also to blame for failing to do anything to prevent the attacks" That's not true. Some of them (xypn9x for all i know) did change IP and used VPN - still not able to prevent the ddos...

2014-11-05 03:19

2 replies

if he was actually on a VPN then he would not have been able to be DDoS'd, unless he didn't change his ip

2014-11-05 17:56

1 reply

You know jackshit. Sorry to tell you that, but keep reading the comments and you will be enlightened about the danish ISP situation and vice versa. I dont have to put it all on repeat, just stating pure facts. Even aizy that is lucky enough to have VPN and dynamic IP was ddosed as well. So yes, sorry to break it to you, it is possible to be ddosed. If the ddos-org has your ip, you will be fucked - dynamic or static doesn't matter apparently.

2014-11-05 21:36

How is making them forfeit any more exposure then letting them play offline?

2014-11-04 23:04

1 reply

+1 my thoughts too

2014-11-05 06:09

What's the difference between playing the stream offline or having a team forfeit due to constant ddos attacks? While I agree that Dignitas needs to do something about their issue, I think it's pretty shitty of the community to completely blame Dignitas for this.

2014-11-04 23:05

3 replies

im not really blaming dignitas im blaming hiko mostly but you cant keep expecting preferential treatment all the time and then when you dont get it mouth of about organisers

2014-11-04 23:09

+1 this. victim blaming is ridiculous and the admins handled this soooo poorly

2014-11-04 23:10

+1 They could record and broadcast it after the game. Things won't always go the way you want/expected, so you have to make the best of the situation, that's where admins failed.

2014-11-04 23:13

Play peacefully off stream on a different time, then just "re" broadcast it...

2014-11-04 23:11

4 replies

hitbox onliner confirmed zzzz

2014-11-04 23:19

nathan nbk smmitch "We need to prepare for DH Winter after fragbite Masters, so we cannot reschedule the game. We agreed to play the game on LAN, but Hitbox will not allow it," he wrote. "If you think I am pulling a d*ck move, think whatever you want. However, you should know that dignitas did the same against another online team for the exact same reasons. "The DDoSer is the real ass in this situation, but we cannot be nice and reschedule every single game because there is one problem every time. "Some teams - weirdly - never have a problem online. Who is to blame?" hikosucks

2014-11-04 23:24

2 replies

I don't know why you would copy paste NBK's facebook post? What does this have to do with them not being allowed to play it out offline? Just shows that they don't care much about the entertainment or production value it seems - Having a win by forfeit in a 10k tournament is stupid. The casters didn't help the cause either.

2014-11-04 23:31

1 reply

as u can see his name and his comment at the bottom u can clearly understand he just wanted to note his opinion about hiko.

2014-11-05 13:29

is that so? so is it better to end it by forfeit than to let it be played off stream? its silly. i can fully understand fetish.

2014-11-04 23:28

You suck so much it can't be expressed in words dude.

2014-11-04 23:29

makes no sense whatsoever. no more publicity or exposure with this decision compared to playing offline. admins failed

2014-11-04 23:46

Well this isn't exactly expanding their brand, is it now.

2014-11-05 00:13

They could just play "offstream" and air the recordings afterwards. It would be fair for the teams and hitbox would get their exposure (a bit less than live, but that's irrelevant)

2014-11-05 01:58

Admins were wrong. Both teams agreed to play on LAN. They could stream the game anyways. Or they could let them play the rest of the game offline and "stream" after it was done. People would want to see the rest of the game anyway. Bad decisions by the admins. Bad reaction by Fetish.

2014-11-05 06:23

yeah maybe but look it in another way? who da fuck cares who win? Hitbox didnt show 3maps becouse of ddos they could play offline who cares? hitbox stll dont have any sponsors etc. its just who win 1 and 2place

2014-11-05 13:15

He flame the admins because they wont let them play of stream, and stream the demo after the match, it would be easy and the right Winner would be found

2014-11-05 13:33

shots fired

2014-11-04 22:35

ddos <3

2014-11-04 22:35

Well shit

2014-11-04 22:36

What a jok

2014-11-04 22:36

rly

2014-11-04 22:36

- 2000 dollars potentially because of ddos @ lol

2014-11-04 22:36

dignitrash

2014-11-04 22:36

2 replies

ldloose :)

2014-11-04 22:54

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2014-11-04 22:36

stupid

2014-11-04 22:36

ez3k$

2014-11-04 22:36

I really start to dislike Dignitas.

2014-11-04 22:36

12 replies

why? cuz they get ddosed? xD

2014-11-04 22:38

10 replies

Yes, as they are fucking terrible at protecting themselves against DDOS attacks. Most other teams have nowhere near as many problem with this.

2014-11-04 22:52

9 replies

hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=672020#r662.. Try this. Of course you know better about the situation with every team so it's logical conclusion Dignitas is to blame for their lack of interest in money.

2014-11-04 22:57

not easy when ddosers are trying all they can to get the IPs, an VPN should be enough but it's not newbies who ddose them

2014-11-04 23:07

nvm

2014-11-04 23:26

@Brittaah there's no way to protect you from ddos attacks, if wrong persons finds out your IP, there's nothing u can do, just if you have a dinamic IP ISP, then you can disconnect and connect with a new IP, but probably they would get your new IP anyway. Even multinational corporations suffer from DDOS atacks and there's nothing anyone can do.

2014-11-05 00:03

1 reply

You just explained yourself how one can protect themselves from DDoS attacks. "if wrong persons finds out your IP" See? There it is. Don't give them your IP address. Multinational corporations suffer from DDoS attacks but that is not the same thing as we discuss here because they're public facing services.

2014-11-05 00:46

Okay so as I mentioned before, aizy changed his IP 2hours before our virtur.pro game, had a VPN and still got ddossed. There are so many problems and so little knowledge about this issue. Something as "simple" as changing your IP takes ages in DK and you have to have your inet switched off for days for it to work. And that last part about the other teams, has happend for them aswell. Just at a whole new level for us.

2014-11-05 07:11

3 replies

If he changed his IP + using a VPN and they still got his IP he probably have some spyware on his computer, that way the ddoser will always find his real IP even if he changes it + using a VPN.

2014-11-05 09:40

2 replies

Either that, or he was running some program that the IP could be found through. Skype/irc/whatever.

2014-11-05 10:24

i wonder if using linux would be a good option, since cs go is on linux now which has better security than windows. Could help with spyware, especially if you're being attacked directly by the ddosser

2014-11-05 21:47

and i immediately disliked you after reading your brainless comment

2014-11-05 11:05

Getting my popcorn, brb

2014-11-04 22:37

Few members of both these teams are clueless and one of them is arrogant prick.

2014-11-04 22:37

6 replies

+1, fuck kioshima!

2014-11-04 22:39

3 replies

what did he say?

2014-11-04 22:40

Yeah what did he say?????

2014-11-05 00:31

2014-11-05 00:33

cough NBK

2014-11-04 22:39

2014-11-05 05:48

So this is how an grand final end? CSarena* you should just go and sit in a corner and think over what u did. *wow sry thought it was fragbite masters* xDDDD

2014-11-04 22:45

4 replies

Fragbite?

2014-11-04 22:38

this is csarena, not fragbite. fragbite actually let the teams play the matches offline.

2014-11-04 22:38

has literally nothing to do with fragbite.

2014-11-04 22:39

actually i think its you that should go sit in a corner and think about what you just wrote

2014-11-04 22:42

fetish mad loool

2014-11-04 22:37

2 replies

Why wouldn't he be?

2014-11-05 00:00

what's weird about that? you wouldn't be bit upset if you are leading 1-0 in a bo3 and you simply cannot continue playing because some autistic retards decide so, thus lose an extra 2K reward?

2014-11-05 02:01

Well, you still get $3000 so don't whine please. Learn how to prevent those attacks like the others teams FeTiSh

2014-11-04 22:37

39 replies

fetish didn't get attacked moron.

2014-11-04 22:40

36 replies

No shit, and watch ur voice. Dignitas are the only team that keep getting DDoSed that tells me that they're dumb

2014-11-04 22:42

35 replies

"watch ur voice" 12 year old confirmed.

2014-11-04 22:46

27 replies

Well, he called me "monron" and I'm the kid here? xD gotta love HLTV

2014-11-04 22:48

26 replies

"monron" "xD" blaming HLTV just leave this website

2014-11-04 22:53

2 replies

+1 monron too stronk

2014-11-04 22:58

just looked at his alias, ignore him, he's probably a portuguese kid

2014-11-04 23:54

You type like you're texting a girl who'll never give you the time of day. If you aren't a kid, I'd be extremely surprised.

2014-11-04 23:07

21 replies

lololollol, i lol'd about that

2014-11-04 23:08

20 replies

Isn't it past your bedtime?

2014-11-04 23:09

19 replies

xDDDDDDD, muricas virgins

2014-11-04 23:10

18 replies

The irony when a person's had sex with more women than your age, times 10.

2014-11-04 23:17

4 replies

The question is if thats a good thing or not

2014-11-05 05:47

2 replies

Completely subjective. I wouldn't say it's a good thing exactly, but some people are big on numbers. I'd rather fuck one woman 1,000 times than 1,000 women one time each.

2014-11-05 07:58

1 reply

It's still more than most people in this site gets anyway. Sadly many people do count pornhub surfing as an sexual intercourse. Carry on.

2014-11-05 09:43

0x10=0 :/

2014-11-07 09:06

Lmao how is virgin still an insult these days? It's not that hard to fuck some ugly ass chick. You two should just post up your instagrams or facebooks and it'll be clear who's the winner of this argument.

2014-11-04 23:30

12 replies

I'm 32 and I can already guarantee I win this one no matter what. I also have neither of those things on purpose.

2014-11-04 23:48

9 replies

32? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2014-11-05 00:38

6 replies

Aw that's like, hurting my feelings, man.

2014-11-05 00:39

5 replies

of course it is :3 but seriously, I just didn't understand why you were arguing with that kind of thing if you're really 32

2014-11-05 00:48

4 replies

Ahaha :D

2014-11-05 00:51

People say I look 20, just going with the flow dawg.

2014-11-05 00:54

1 reply

ez skins ez life

2014-11-05 01:08

You don't know the man code? 3 things in life determine the alpha: 1) How many times got laid 2) CS:GO MM rank (Boosted is ok too) 3) How many episodes you watched from Pokemon season 1 when it aired (This one should be number one)

2014-11-05 09:49

If you are really 32, you already lost by even arguing dude

2014-11-05 11:31

1 reply

Killing time > Arguing. Who the fuck actually argues about virginity instead of just making fun of it?

2014-11-05 19:21

Yeah, it isn't hard but for him maybe it is. Who knows :P

2014-11-05 02:21

1 reply

EPIC XD

2014-11-05 19:21

you can fuck right off this planet

2014-11-05 02:01

What you just wrote tells me you have no clue what you're talking about.

2014-11-04 22:47

Because they have static IP's.

2014-11-04 23:52

You just told us that you are dumb.

2014-11-05 02:14

4 replies

? Lol, there you go the "onlinerJ" dude, did any of the LDLC players got DDoSed? The teams were all getting DDoSed since lurppis told them to fix that and protect themselves now ONLY Dignitas (that i've seen) are getting DDoSed, you think I don't know what Im talking about? I got attacked aswell, tons of times. But since then 0 attacks, I don't understand what's ur point. Of course it is impossible to protect urself 100% but you think that the kids that DDoS are "good" "hackers" ? Lol'd, you almost killed me tho. The people that does that are only kids that they're losing skins, wtf are you talking about? Go ahead and go own teams that you rekt online on LAN instead of coming here and tell me that i'm dumb. But then again, this is HLTV. Peace

2014-11-05 02:20

3 replies

You're Canadian, you lost already :(.

2014-11-05 07:49

1 reply

2014-11-05 15:48

Wait... who the fuck do you think you are? Don't speak to the god like that. fucking punk bitch

2014-11-05 08:30

You can't 100% stop DDoS

2014-11-04 22:40

1 reply

True, but you can prevent or "delay". Ask the other dudes that changed their ip and bought VPN's. As as I saw here one topic: "Dignitas always getting DDoS" and why is that? Can you please explain to me? I'm not saying that's their fault but ATLEAST they have to fix that before the games. I'm sorry but the viewers are getting tired of that.

2014-11-05 02:23

Great production: -Preferring forefit wins instead of playing it offline -Casters bashing on dignitas for like 10 minutes on stream, calling them a bad mannered team, device and dupreeh kids etc. No mentions of LDLC BM. -Absolutely clueless about what they're talking about regarding ddos

2014-11-04 22:37

7 replies

2014-11-04 22:39

2014-11-04 22:40

Yeah, they kind of crossed the line there. If they knew what they were talking about, sure, they are allowed to have their opinion. But they obv dont and they even said that themself

2014-11-04 22:41

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2014-11-04 23:15

yes, was quite sad

2014-11-05 02:01

Dignitas is just Winner but this fuking ddosers ...

2014-11-04 22:38

gg DDoS'ers, I hope you all get Ebola.

2014-11-04 22:38

scumbag french, probably ldlc members calling up their friends asking to ddos dignitas cause they can't win anything any other way, useless trash team.

2014-11-04 22:38

5 replies

ty for skins =) =) =)

2014-11-04 22:42

2 replies

i don't bet skins that shits for the poor.

2014-11-04 23:07

defwin = skins back

2014-11-05 02:02

why do you think nbk dont like to play the map other day :P. Thy only have money for one ddos day :P

2014-11-04 22:44

don't say bullshit.

2014-11-04 22:44

biggest joke of a tournament, the fact a final can end in a forfeit is just sad and absurd.

2014-11-04 22:38

1 reply

Most likely because they are brits. We all know most brits are dumb.

2014-11-04 22:42

lol ppl hating on dignitas because they hating, but man, i see it as organisers fault cause they allowed match to be on csgl to get viewers, hence the ddos.

2014-11-04 22:38

2 replies

U know there r other sites to bet. Not only csgolounge..if i could sabotage a game i would bet some cash and not some skins.

2014-11-05 13:51

1 reply

Matches that are not on csgl are usually on egamingbets and there is no ddos in this matches still

2014-11-05 15:04

most stupid thing ever that's EXACTLY what the ddosers wanted (a win for LDLC). the organizers should have postponed the match till a solutions has been found. now you gave the ddoser the best reason to continue, cause now they know that they can actually 100% decide the outcome of the game.

2014-11-04 22:41

3 replies

LDLC didnt want to reschedule the match since they wanted to prepare for fragbite masters LAN and as well DHW.

2014-11-04 22:43

2 replies

well then they are cunts who lack sportsmanship

2014-11-04 22:44

1 reply

LDLC agreed to playing offline or on Fragbite LAN, organizers didn't agree.

2014-11-04 23:00

Ez skins.

2014-11-04 22:40

3 replies

Nope, skins are returned.

2014-11-04 22:41

2 replies

TY Captain Obvious.

2014-11-05 00:17

1 reply

np bad troll.

2014-11-05 00:49

Admins are not acting professional in this situation. 3rd map should have been played off-stream.

2014-11-04 22:41

It's clearly messege to betters, make ddos to save ur skins, it's pays off and we've an example. It was bad decision. We need say, that Pimp was underattack too, and Device was topfragging with stats something around 24-9 when he gets ddosed permanently.

2014-11-04 22:41

lol @hltv for switching the tweet from the mad Fetish tweet to the calm device tweet :D

2014-11-04 22:41

yea dislike dignitas cuz of ddos gg retards

2014-11-04 22:42

-respect for nbk after this

2014-11-04 22:42

Remove shitbox from cs go competitive scene, pls.

2014-11-04 22:44

fuck LDLC, bunch of faggots

2014-11-04 22:46

2 replies

can u say what's your problem ?

2014-11-05 08:25

1 reply

their attitude

2014-11-05 11:36

good job dignitas! Really, fuck ddosers

2014-11-04 22:47

Why blame the organizers for ddos. It’s a rotten world filled with rotten people that will do anything for profit. It’s really sad that ddos is so simple to perform and the only solution to the problem is that the ISP’s around the world start to implement protection for it to its customers. They have the knowhow and capacity to handle it. Normal customers should not need to worry about getting flooded.

2014-11-04 22:47

1 reply

They can't cast it offstream and then record it? Assholes.

2014-11-04 22:55

sure blame admins... fucking logic.

2014-11-04 22:48

Betting sites like Egamingbets.com needs to update their fucking terms and conditions. Them giving the win to LDLC is fucking stupid. And Hitbox is not better either. Why didn't they play it off stream?

2014-11-04 22:48

2 replies

Get REKT ty for your money.

2014-11-05 00:21

1 reply

I'm sure you'll need them more than me.

2014-11-05 02:10

ldlc got lucky there, dignitas was running away with that game today

2014-11-04 22:48

DONT BLAME ADMINS -device BLAME THE FUCKING ADMINS -fetish 10/10

2014-11-04 22:48

2 replies

Thought that was funny too :D

2014-11-04 22:50

2014-11-04 22:51

Fucking idiots DDOS'ing. Dignitas please do something on that matter, you can't let it slide like that, it's just plain shit if you have to forfeit in the finals -_- Good luck on finding a solution and may the ddos'ers die in a car crash for ruining other people's life. How do you want eSport to be taken seriously if you all act like fucking retarded kids ?

2014-11-04 22:53

Hitbox admins and casters are dumb fucks, jeez.

2014-11-04 22:53

#BOYCOT HITBOX

2014-11-04 22:55

1 reply

2014-11-05 12:41

ldlc get crashed by plane, no ferplay at all. they've rly accepted victory like that? shame, bauggets

2014-11-04 23:00

2 replies

Stop all the hate and read, idiot.

2014-11-04 23:03

Did you read ? They agreed on playing on lan but csareen denied that idea.

2014-11-04 23:25

DDOS destroys this game confirmed. I normaly wouldn't troll like this but lets face it: its true!

2014-11-04 23:04

its always device getting ddost (justsayingnobanpls)

2014-11-04 23:08

4 replies

makes sense ddosing the star player, ay?

2014-11-05 02:08

3 replies

ok my point being: It is only one player (and some navi player but that does count here) so its not the admins fault, nor ldlcs, nor dignitas, only devices fault taht he cant properly protect himself! Im not aware if device said already something about it and why he cant do it or smth, but it should be possible, otherwise he has to go and play at a friendsplace or smth ;D and to the tournament not allowing it to be played off stream: It makes totally sense to not do that. Hitbox and their partners host this championship for exposure, creating hits on hitboxes site and on partner sites. Ofc they now have huge exposure due to that incident but they dont have they streamers stream on hitbox and do not have the viewers/clicks on their site :D

2014-11-05 11:30

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"it is only one player.. (and some navi player...)" Alright, let me stop you right there. It has been aizy, device and xyp9x mainly, from Dignitas. Then there is Neo, TaZ, s1mple, worldedit, fetish and a long list of other players who have been ddosed. The game could have been streamed anyway, just not life. We have seen it before in Fragbite Masters, which is why Dig eventually got to the final, because they played offline and then wouldn't get ddosed. Those games were still broadcasted by Anders and Semmler, without anyone really knowing the results of the matches.

2014-11-05 17:56

1 reply

fanboy detected

2014-11-05 18:46

omg

2014-11-04 23:08

Hitbox have always been worst stream site and admins

2014-11-04 23:10

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worst stream site? not in this world, 10x better than twatch worst admins? can't argue with that

2014-11-05 02:09

1 reply

Umm no... poor quality, and the site is shite !!

2014-11-05 09:53

Some teams - weirdly - never have a problem online. Who is to blame? I kinda hope he'd experience ddos to the same extend as dignitas.

2014-11-04 23:12

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agree, if someone really wanted to im sure they could bring his net down aswell making LDLC shit in online play, but probaly won't happend for a long time since LDLC won't be underdogs in betting.

2014-11-04 23:18

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Sure they could bring down their connections as well. If people just read a few of the tweets that some of the dignitas players put up, they'd know that they do quite a bit to try a prevent this. But of course there's all the retards coming along saying stuff like 'omg just don't use skypelol. what a bunch of n00bzzZZ'

2014-11-04 23:24

whats the point ddosing underdogs? betting on them will provide you with a way larger amount of profit

2014-11-05 00:54

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+1 either just watch the game or don't bet.. people can be such scumbags... such a pathetic waste of air.

2014-11-05 06:44

Someone felt sure that LDLC would win this easily and that Dignitas wouldn't be putting up too much of a fight, which would not give the ddos too much of an effect. Or maybe they simply didn't have the ability to find the LDLC players ip's - though I think NBK has been ddos'ed before.

2014-11-05 17:59

Were two nice protection guides posted just the other week, one being quite extensive. No excuse, stop being lazy and take the time to read and do the practical?

2014-11-04 23:18

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Are you seriously saying you don't believe that the affected Dignitas members haven't already tried that?

2014-11-05 00:08

ofcourse, because every member of the pro scene is a tech-oblivious gullible e-jock and could not have possibly ever thought about such extensive and advanced methods of protecting yourself from ddos attacks. they probably don't even know what it stands for amirite *giggle giggle nerdsnort*

2014-11-05 02:12

Fetish was being a dick towards the admins, there is no benefit for the sponsors if they play without stream or play it and broadcast later. NBK is starting to act like a diva, he keeps crying and whining and acting like a bitch.

2014-11-04 23:20

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and is there a benefit for a forfeit? even worse. then the DDoS'ers win their money, and they will continue as long as they do so. I understand Fetish reaction.

2014-11-04 23:24

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A forfeit wouldn't waste them time. Playing the rest of the games without live broadcast is useless. Assuming they pay their staff by the hour.

2014-11-05 00:29

Hitbox is a piece of crap, worst streaming platform ever. As we can see now, hitbox admins too.

2014-11-04 23:21

0 respect for LDLC and that bitch NBK , I think MissRage need more $$$ for fast food and that's why NBK want to win no matter how.

2014-11-04 23:27

I want Fetish and his team secluded for the rest of this season

2014-11-04 23:28

3 replies

are you de ddoser? lol

2014-11-05 00:09

2 replies

someone arrest him!

2014-11-05 02:13

1 reply

How hard can it be to change ip and get a proper vpn. If that doesnt work, why not change location, acc, pc. etc?

2014-11-05 20:32

yeah ok dignitas this time u forfeit but against fucking VP on mirage you continue the match and cost me my 100 dollar bet instead of forfeiting u disgraceful fucks -_-

2014-11-04 23:29

Why only dignitas have this problem? Are they retarded or seek for an atention? Wtf?

2014-11-04 23:35

Really disappointed by this decision from Hitbox. There is really no reason to have them forfeit instead of playing the match offline and then upload VODs after the game has finished. Both teams should be treated fairly.

2014-11-04 23:40

2 replies

"seek for an atention" lmao

2014-11-05 12:43

1 reply

dat english doe

2014-11-05 15:04

it is so stupid that the ddos'ers probably did this because of skins on csgo lounge but no one wins anything due to this forfeit and all items will be returned. So no gained skins for ddos but a ruined final and drama. So sad.

2014-11-04 23:41

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* saved skins.. 240$ x alt accounts.

2014-11-05 11:09

2 replies

All skins were returned due to the forfeit. So what do you mean? Nothing was gained?

2014-11-05 14:35

1 reply

? What do you mean. If the ddoser had 2000k value on LDLC at 80% down 1-0 in map.. Dont you think he/she gained alot from returns?

2014-11-05 16:53

Jpay, how many times do others have to stress that there is real money at stake in these games, and not just skins? It might be a combo of both things, or it might just even be a LDLC fanboy, the thing is that ddosing have been there always, and not just since CSGOLOUNGE set up business.

2014-11-05 18:01

NBK is such a shitkid, honestly. I don't even know how he convinced Smithzz and Shox to kill their teams to join him.

2014-11-04 23:46

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If you think I'm pulling out a dick move think whatever you want. However know that dignitas also pulled it out against another team online for the exact same reasons. - NBK

2014-11-05 00:50

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NBK: if ou disagree with that attitude, why did u do the same? the match should be reschedule..

2014-11-05 10:07

I can wait for the rape again from fnatic this weekend NBK xD

2014-11-05 00:00

NO ONE blame LDLC and admins, it`s your duty to protect yourself from DDOS.

2014-11-05 00:25

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+1 but i wish they didn't had to.. -.- Thoose DDOS pepe are pissing me off.. I miss when we could actully see a FULL match without anything.

2014-11-05 00:33

Fuck off, they try mate. I bet you don't even know what DDoS means.

2014-11-05 00:53

when the best affect in the grandfinal was DDOSer.. its rly GG.. wasting time of players and viewers

2014-11-05 00:41

Why don't you just read device's tweet and shut the fuck up you all? (people blaming everyone but the ddossers)?

2014-11-05 00:47

I watch about 90% of my material in VoDs.. so playing offstream they could just release the demo and people would still be able to try to enjoy... fuck ddoss'rs are the same lazy fucks that don't want to work for a living... CS:GO or real life bunch of wannabe pussies that can't get anything themselves.

2014-11-05 00:54

WOW, that whole DDOSing is total bs. Play offline then for fuck's sake.

2014-11-05 01:03

As u can't protect yourself from ddos, i suggest u to buy a new computer and steam account only with teammates, and setup a new internet for the new computer. u can still play MM match with random people, the new computer only for official match. i don't see any other way since u guys don't like nip/ldlc/fnatic pro.

2014-11-05 01:09

lol hitbox is the worst. proven again

2014-11-05 01:14

more like poopbox

2014-11-05 01:19

"If you think I am pulling a d*ck move, think whatever you want. However, you should know that dignitas did the same against another online team for the exact same reasons. "Some teams - weirdly - never have a problem online. Who is to blame?" thats the reason why i hate this skinny tiny MakeUpBoy (MUB - NBK) so much...arrogant justifications GG skinny ladyboy with your ridicolous wanna be "manbeard"

2014-11-05 01:29

2 replies

You show him, Bfrost!

2014-11-05 02:57

1 reply

YEAH! ò.ó

2014-11-05 02:58

Fuckjng devices change your fucking IP remove random scrubs on steam friends and whatever other program u used my 300 value gawd dammit

2014-11-05 01:35

1 reply

No one gives two shits about your 300 value

2014-11-05 09:06

Devices has been decided for like almost 2 months now your a professional cs go player change your fucking ip

2014-11-05 01:36

Dedosed

2014-11-05 01:36

2 replies

Dosia?

2014-11-05 01:51

1 reply

dDosia

2014-11-05 08:32

Surely there are some precautions they could be taking...

2014-11-05 01:49

who the FUCK blamed NBK? how the fuck did he sth wrong?

2014-11-05 02:23

huge upset was very possible anyways. Simply betting on ldlc and giving that 76% odds are just dumb move in general in ONLINE bo3. dignitas is a great team after all.

2014-11-05 02:44

it's a clever business method for the Ddossers. They contact the opposing side of an online tournament to make an offer. "We give you this win by ddosing, and you give us x% of your winnings. Win/win =) - and i see soooo many brits whiteknighting this shit crew; "Dig stupid, no protection, no precautions etc." Dig have done plenty enough trying to avoid these shitty attacks. Get a grip and stop blaming dignitas nor LDLC for this. Tho the business offer sounds viable.

2014-11-05 03:36

LDLC are so exausted to play they did like 3 lan in a row , no time to really rest + they have to prepare faceit & dhw. You have a good lan in the end of the week , and you don't want to waste the whole evening to wait someone who get ddos , (you get exaust tired from that , then you waste time that you can put to pracc or watch demos) . Admins could have change things but the only fault is fuckind ddos.

2014-11-05 05:30

Classy move would be to give both teams $4k.

2014-11-05 05:48

Online competition is turning fast into a joke. Hitbox admins took the worst possible deceision to forfeit a final and I've got no idea in what world do they think that they made the right one. Ton of bad publicity for their brand. They just contributed with their action the DDOS attackers and should be ashamed of themselves. Their casters should also learn how to act professional because they'll never go anywhere with their current attitude.

2014-11-05 05:51

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agreed. acept forfiet in a grand final? thats ridiculous and show exactly what was this tournament, a big fail

2014-11-05 10:09

Ummm... Wait wait wait. Grand final ONLINE ?

2014-11-05 05:51

Dignitas isn't the only team to get DDoSed often .. Doesn't NiP get DDoS'ed like practically every game too? Which brings me to my next question. If NiP, a premier gaming house and one of the biggest gaming teams out there in the world can't stop DDoS, why is everyone blaming Dignitas players?

2014-11-05 05:59

So aizy changed his IP 2 hours before our last online games vs. virtuspro and he used a VPN. He still got ddossed. Its honestly amazing how clueless some people are and the lack of knowledge on this matter is vast. To top it all off, the admins blamed us for being attacked. We offered to play the game off stream and let them cast the demo at a later time - as its being done in all other leagues, but for some reason the admins didnt think that was an option. I dont care about the money, but the fact that finals are being ruined by ddosserz and incompetent admins is just a joke. We play these games for the spectators and what tournament would rather have a forfeit final than a played final 0_o?!

2014-11-05 07:06

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Hitbox is a joke and will soon disappear. Also the fans think you guys are stupid enough to get ddosed for months and still not protecting urselves, pretty dumb. Anyway, this is bad for everyone, specially for dignitas who lost money on a basically won game and STILL get hate from the community for something they cant do shit about. Hope u guys can sort something out <3 Dignitas

2014-11-05 07:30

Have you tried getting a security expert to help you out? Because somehow they still get your new IP address.

2014-11-05 09:13

Well said, Fetish. It is a joke that the result of this final is a forfeit. Incompetent admins from shitty league called Hitbox...

2014-11-05 13:37

Fuck u ddoser.

2014-11-05 07:40

ofc the hitbox team won't let them play offstream. the whole tournament was about promoting the hitbox site :D

2014-11-05 07:44

I think Hitbox is the problem here. The way they handled this situation is hilariously stupid. Playing the game offline would atleast have been fair.

2014-11-05 07:59

thx ddosers, gj

2014-11-05 08:08

HITBOX those noobs cant even get decent commentators.

2014-11-05 08:15

NBK is so french. so unpolite.He's so ragechick. He's a disgrace to our country. GFY NBK

2014-11-05 08:43

This is really sad, LDLC didn't deserve to win at all. DDOS is killing this game.

2014-11-05 09:18

youtube.com/watch?v=ZOlnx7oyOTI

2014-11-05 09:19

how sad

2014-11-05 09:35

DDoS attacks successfully.

2014-11-05 10:02

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Sucks really. And NBK taking the full hit from community :D

2014-11-05 10:06

pasha pls teach NBK good manners.

2014-11-05 10:55

The problem here is who took your IPs. Could be a link, could be a skype call, could be a friend of yours trolling. You can use VPN and do the 1000 tricks, but if they have your actual IP, it's gg.

2014-11-05 11:00

retard admins... why cant end match offline wtf?

2014-11-05 11:31

sit the fuck down nbk..u got no proof

2014-11-05 11:32

Wouldn't it be possible to blacklist the ip's thats forcing too much traffic on your router/hp? Ex: Ddos guy 1; attacks your router to bring it down. If his request forces the router to lag or overload, the guy will be blacklisted immediately. -> In other words; Create a "roof" for the amount of traffic that can be requested, in order to prevent the router/inet from going down...?

2014-11-05 11:48

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The thing is that its more than one IP spamming his router with traffic. It can be hundreds or thousands

2014-11-05 11:52

First off NBKs statement makes him look even more stupid. Am i the only one noticing a slight pattern in the DDOS attacks? It seems to me that its always when a french team is loosing. If you havn't thought about that, try to keep it in mind. Have a beautiful day.. my friends and welcome

2014-11-05 11:51

Its all good. LDLC can afford to buy some tissues and painkillers after gettin rekt on stage, in Paris, without lube.

2014-11-05 12:25

"Some teams - weirdly - never have a problem online. Who is to blame?" because they can f***king protect themselves -.-

2014-11-05 14:12

FUCKBOX !

2014-11-05 14:45

Scandinavia for attitude (I hate being redirected to Stockholm servers, that's were the most retards play), Germany for hackers and French for pretty much everything. France is like your Sweden in EU West that's meant to spoil EU West gameplay. Dutch are pretty annoying too, and Russians are rude.

2014-11-05 15:16

NBK you support ddosers!

2014-11-05 15:17

Device... sorry dont blame players and admins plssss Fetish... admins with ton of brainzzzz Kappa

2014-11-05 16:26

You guys forgot one missing possibility here. The admin that refuse offline play so the game can be finish might bet a lot of money on LDLC who is obviously was in the losing side. =\ wonder if they are the one DDOSing I mean, usually when something happens.. The one supporting it benefits from it. If the game is played offline, hitbox dont get viewers for the rest of the game, but they punish the DDOSer and keep a good name. If Dig cant play it online, hitbox STILL dont get viewers and now I am hating them. If this keep going, DDOSer will keep making money off lounge and ruining it for everyone. I am boycotting hitbox thanks

2014-11-05 18:52

nbk ...

2014-11-05 21:37

It's not LDLCs obligation to bend over backwards and fuck their schedule to appease another team. It sucks, but you can't blame LDLC for any of this. They are professionals and they have other obligations to other tournaments. Dig has a serious problem and I don't know the solution, but it isn't blaming your opponents.

2014-11-05 22:05