Major problems

It's safe to say Valve's $250,000 majors have offered us the best of CS:GO so far, but major problems still lie within the system used for these events.

Since the first $250,000 major took place a year ago at DreamHack Winter, the entire scene has revolved around the community funded events taking place roughly every four months.

With major number four around the corner, we take a look at some of the biggest issues still surrounding these great events, and offer solutions on how to improve on them.

It's important we don't let these issues overshadow what's coming, but we also cannot afford to simply shrug them off as we have so far - improvements must be made by the next go-around.


Certain problems still persist at the majors 


Online qualifiers

After the most recent scandals regarding first Joel "⁠emilio⁠" Mako getting caught cheating by VAC, and then ALTERNATE's Robert "⁠sMN⁠" Fredriksson being busted by ESEA's anti-cheat, it's more obvious than ever that cheating is a massive issue in competitive Counter-Strike.

Former Planetkey Dynamics player Anil "⁠cLy⁠" Gülec was VAC banned and not permitted to take part in the majors, but due to FACEIT admins' mistakes was allowed to play in two pre-qualifiers and secure his team a spot in the closed qualifier.

Looking at sMN's statistics, it's likely he's been cheating for a while, as he had a great game in the DreamHack Stockholm qualifier to clinch a spot for ALTERNATE at the event, and then continued to perform well above his career averages in the DreamHack Winter qualifier.

Luckily his team came up short against HellRaisers in two 14-16 losses, but it's possible - if not likely - that he was also cheating then, and with a few rounds altered could have scored his team $50,000.

Following PENTA's surprising qualification to the major, thanks to a narrow victory over HellRaisers, multiple people familiar with the situation suggested someone on the team cheated to ensure their great reads in the match.

Yet another suspect is ESC Gaming's Ralf "⁠rallen⁠" Zarych, whom many assumed was cheating - and according to HLTV.org's sources that included a few admins - against Copenhagen Wolves.

Not only did his team close out two 16-14 wins versus the Danes, both times putting up huge terrorist halves on very defense favored maps, but his team also knocked out sMN's ALTERNATE, ironically.

To further add to that, there's been rumours that a friend of ESC member Jacek "⁠MINISE⁠" Jeziak is behind another huge issue that specifically bothers the Polish Counter-Strike scene - DDoSsing.

After tying the game at 10-10, Copenhagen Wolves were constantly under DDoS attacks until the Poles finally won the map 16-14 to advance in the qualifier towards a spot in Jönköping.

The match wasn't on CSGOLounge, further suggesting someone with something to gain was behind the attack. Last night, a similar thing happened in ESL Pro Series Poland matches, when finals spots were determined.

It's obvious the $50,000 in sticker money - paid out to teams in the ESL One Cologne Challengers capsule - is enough to incentivize many to cheat, when there is no anti cheat preventing them from doing so.

Fixing it isn't easy, but until someone does, there is a good work around. LAN qualifications.

It's time we stop relying on an honor system when there is no honor around. $50,000 winners can't be decided online, not with DDoS and cheating issues like they are today.

Valve must realize this is a real problem, and start hosting LAN qualifiers. Some will say it's too costly, but knowing the sticker money up for grabs, can a few thousand euros for travel be too much? I say no.

At the very least, the number of spots given out via online qualifiers must greatly be reduced, and Valve should find another way to allocate these spots at the major events.

Until a good solution to protect players from DDoS exists, and anti-cheats can catch all the private cheats, spots at the majors should be determined at LAN. Opportunity might not make a thief, but why risk it?


Did gla1ve's Copenhagen Wolves get cheated out of a major? 


Questionable format

Considering the scene now revolves around the majors and you can realistically make over $50,000 a year - per player - in sticker money alone, why should best-of-ones decide who gets invited back?

It's ludicrous to think the group stages at majors should be similar to group stages at every significantly smaller event held around the year. Two map wins should not guarantee a spot in the Legends capsule.

Now that Valve and DreamHack have decided - in a great move, by the way - to host a six day bootcamp at Inferno Online for all participants, we know it's not impossible for them to extend these tournaments.

I understand that as long as they are held at exhibitions, you are fairly limited when it comes to the number of days you can use per tournament. However, not the entire tournament has to be played there.

What if instead of a six day bootcamp, Valve gave teams three days to practice at a location similar to Inferno Online, and then used the next three days to host a big group stage?

Group stage could be two groups of eight teams where everyone plays everyone once in a best-of-three, with the top four finishers in each qualifying for the playoffs, to be held at the actual event.

Plus, this would guarantee each participant at least 14 maps of CS to learn from, as opposed to potentially traveling thousands of miles to play just two maps.

Playoffs then could reasonably be played out in best-of-five mode, truly determining who the best team in the world is - which should be the end of all goal of majors, to begin with.

Valve's The International events use a similar format for DotA 2, so it's not out of the question. Hopefully enough people push for the idea, and we can, in the future, see majors where the best team really does win.


Inferno Online could play host to a major's group stage 


In the end, this is yet another problem that only Valve can realistically tackle. It's up to the game's creators to set the rules for the organizations hosting their $250,000 majors.

Follow HLTV.org's @lurppis_ on Twitter.

Sweden Joel 'emilio' Mako
Joel 'emilio' Mako
Age:
21
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
106
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
Sweden Robert 'sMN' Fredriksson
Robert 'sMN' Fredriksson
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Poland Jacek 'MINISE' Jeziak
Jacek 'MINISE' Jeziak
Age:
20
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
120
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.72
Germany Ralf 'rallen' Zarych
Ralf 'rallen' Zarych
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Germany Anil 'cLy' Gülec
Anil 'cLy' Gülec
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
107
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.63
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Serbia Pera9
not good
2014-11-17 20:13
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Serbia vraca
what paradajIz said ! ;)
2014-11-17 20:19
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Serbia Pera9
haahhh :D
2014-11-17 21:57
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Sweden enQuiLa
Embarrassing community!
2014-11-17 20:51
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2014-11-18 14:41
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pelase leave 4 groups. its much more interesting when there is 4 not 2.
2014-11-17 21:21
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Germany eXfckn0
Yes finals will be best of 15
2014-11-18 08:19
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World Swishh
Stealing a top spot :) Lurppis should be fired from HLTV. What the heck is that, openly accusing people without evidence? Very unprofessional, HLTV.org should reconsider their role - is it to deliever news about the scene or call out potential cheaters? Most unprofessional news-site in any case I know of, you lost all respect. :)
2014-11-18 12:04
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Europe hitmaizer
+1
2014-11-18 16:20
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+1
2014-11-18 18:09
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Greece GenGiSKhaNGR
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2014-11-18 20:46
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hltv.org professional news site Kappa
2014-11-19 10:38
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#541
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Iceland eriksoN
smn,cly,emilio are not potential cheaters they ARE cheaters. you kids think pro's have some kind of angelic morality. that they will never do no wrong.
2014-11-20 10:28
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Sweden Huggis
n1
2014-11-17 20:13
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#374
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United States Cyberman321
Lurppis makes some good points, but he's completely off base in calling for centralization of power. If anything, the majors should compete with their formats to see what works best. Asking Valve to control and consolidate everything ignores basic economics which tell us that following such a path will lead to restrictive growth. If the game is to grow to it's potential, it must remain free of regulation.
2014-11-17 22:39
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United Kingdom hando
Especially as it's quite clear (at least in my opinion), that Valve will put the credibility, longevity and integrity of the game well behind their own financial interests.
2014-11-18 00:14
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United States HyperionN
Valve has a monopoly so all the standard economic principles go out the window. What we really need is an independent organization hosting crowdfunded major tournaments.
2014-11-18 02:43
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United States Cyberman321
Valve doesn't have a monopoly on tournaments, just the game itself. Crowd funding would be pretty interesting.
2014-11-18 15:38
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United States spaceghost--
Idk if you truly understand what a monopoly is, either that or you don't understand economics too well.
2014-11-18 18:12
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United States HyperionN
Anyone can throw a tournament. But only one organization is crowdfunding them. And they have the huge advantage of being able to siphon money directly from steam market sales. So right now valve has a monopoly on the "big 250k major". That means every tournament is following their rules in hopes of hosting one of them in the future. What we need is competition, which can only come from another organization doing its own crowdfunding. Is that too hard for you to understand?
2014-11-19 00:45
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United States spaceghost--
Oh, believe me, I understand what you're trying to say, but you're using the term monopoly wrong. In such a niche market (if you can even call "big 250k major" a "market", more or less just a niche of the market that is esports, more specifically lans) that term wouldn't be usedAlso, not every tournament is following the Major rules so that point is wrong too. Just because they are the only ones doing 250 k majors, doesn't mean they have a "monopoly on 250k majors." I agree, we need competition with other lans involving a prize pot at least 100k or more.
2014-11-19 02:20
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United States HyperionN
I'm sorry if that is the incorrect usage of the term professor spaceghost. Economics was not my major. what i meant by rules (for starters) is that (almost) every tournament follows the valve map pool. first it was the se maps, then it was mirage, now its cbbl and overpass. The tournaments do this to appease the players who only care about practicing the major maps and also (i believe) to make a case to valve that they could eventually host a major. So valve is essentially setting the maps for the whole scene, and also they have made it standard practice to cut vac banned players, since they cant compete at the majors which is all anyone cares about. Their retarded veto rules haven't spread to other tournaments yet, but they still have total control over the majors. And they will continue to since they control the steam market and its millions of dollars and they are the only organization that can really give 250k to a tournament and get way way more in return through increased interest in the game which translates to more market activity. What I am saying is, they are the only game in town when it comes to majors, they are the only organization that can get a good return on investment for throwing huge tournaments (market activity, sticker sales, etc). So yeah they have a sort of monopoly because there is zero competition and they control everything (directly or indirectly).
2014-11-20 02:12
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Netherlands CcARTii
heavily agree on the bigger groupstages
2014-11-17 20:21
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2014-11-17 20:52
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Luxembourg yaz
and bo5 too.. Well at least after the groupstage
2014-11-17 21:00
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World mukas17
I agree on everything. Online qualifier to determine who is worthy to attend a LAN has a huge logical disconnect. It's like playing ping pong to qualify for a tennis tournament. Only team that qualified who have a chance to win at least one map is HR and they barely made it, cos of cheaters. Others are only there for sticker money. Bigger group stages would more objectively decide who are the better teams. Winning two maps means nothing. Plus a longer tournament is more hype in general. More people would have the incentive to keep watching rather than not caring anymore once their favorite team drops out of the tournament on the first day. If the LAN stage took 3 days there could even be a loser's bracket which in my opinion makes it more exciting. Yet more viewers while their team at least has a chance to make it.
2014-11-18 11:19
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n3 hate lurpius tho
2014-11-17 20:14
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Vietnam angrycock
your name says it all ^^ Im NiP fan though xD
2014-11-17 20:36
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Ukraine petruska
NICE ONE!
2014-11-17 20:14
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Ukraine _VeTKiN_
mmm...
2014-11-17 20:14
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nice
2014-11-17 20:14
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Netherlands G1bby_
+1
2014-11-17 20:48
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Sweden afellay1023
n1
2014-11-17 20:15
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World nob123
VAC is a joke anticheat just like valve, paint guns get money ez
2014-11-17 20:16
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Brazil bandicoot
i get the money too
2014-11-17 20:31
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World stricky
7-1
2014-11-18 11:20
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homeless
2014-11-18 11:37
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Europe richgang
gg lurppis
2014-11-17 20:16
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n1
2014-11-17 20:17
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hed0r | 
Afghanistan gaIaxies
great article as always
2014-11-17 20:17
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Kyrgyzstan ^ This.
That b8 headline
2014-11-17 20:17
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Canada WooTs
Or maybe Valve can update VAC more than once a year. That would be nice.
2014-11-17 20:17
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United Kingdom dezmondo
they are always updating vac. they just don't announce it because that would be retarded. "hey hack developers, we just updated vac so better find out if we detected your cheat!" logic
2014-11-17 22:37
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Belgium maxwellz
this so much
2014-11-18 09:58
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MrFuckYou | 
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-alternate +chw
2014-11-17 20:17
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Denmark GrayDuck
+1
2014-11-17 20:54
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#373
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Germany reload.
alternate isnt even qualified
2014-11-17 22:38
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Sweden MoggeNNN
yeah they should do a 256 team lan
2014-11-17 20:18
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#205
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Slovakia harek
yeah ! And next step could be relocate all players into one midle-size city and let them play whole year around
2014-11-17 20:55
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United Kingdom vL-
nice idea
2014-11-18 00:16
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molodoy | 
Brazil Nobuga
+1
2014-11-18 01:44
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MAJ3R | 
France PouletFurtif
good read
2014-11-17 20:18
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Norway cwel
wow so many bad words about esc. why didn't u state that esc was ddosed too in match vs CW? and again... you literally made rallen cheater here...
2014-11-17 20:21
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Poland phantomkrz
many 1.6 cheaters plays CS:GO on a "high" level
2014-11-17 21:57
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#454
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Other hahadaoc
yeah just look at fnatic
2014-11-18 09:52
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#468
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Italy VoHiYo
The only player that was actually banned for cheat was schneider, so please.
2014-11-18 11:28
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United Arab Emirates cruelmaycry
rallen was banned on esl by aequitas as I remember on 1.6
2014-11-18 14:22
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Spain akproxx
nice lurppis u are really good when no hate players :D
2014-11-17 20:18
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Sweden Hajper :D
who else knew this was a lurppis thread? cuz of headline
2014-11-17 20:18
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United States T3HK4T
no fiffy hate tho
2014-11-17 20:19
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#306
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United States iLzudE
honestly i thought thoorin started writing for hltv
2014-11-17 21:37
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#506
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Europe hitmaizer
+1
2014-11-18 16:23
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Argentina awedissent
n1
2014-11-17 20:18
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Croatia VuKA
nice lurppis
2014-11-17 20:19
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Sweden NinoDno
1+
2014-11-17 20:20
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Finland AScir
yes lan qualifieres yes
2014-11-17 20:20
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Poland ESCminisesek
Lurppis, can I ask you from where did you get info about me being behind ddosing? And why you didnt mentioned that innocent was under ddos attack during whole cache, when he wasnt dropping from the server, he was playing with 100ms+, hm?
2014-11-17 20:20
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^
2014-11-17 20:23
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Chile Szymsoooon
+ 1
2014-11-17 20:24
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Poland US nero
rumours said so... lurppis, rumours are for gossip portals(or you're gossip girl wannabe?) since you have no evidence you should not insinuate anything like that
2014-11-17 20:29
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Norway cwel
his "rumours" are just probably salty CW players
2014-11-17 20:31
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#255
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Poland cAst0r
ye badian and pimp crying on twitter about it, "we want your demos ESC, 24h after our game, u were cheating etc." also heard on minise stream about pimp crying a lot on twitter on msg to innocent
2014-11-17 21:09
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#261
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Norway cwel
pimp still crying about it whenever he can i saw his tweets :D
2014-11-17 21:14
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Poland cAst0r
send me link to them;d
2014-11-17 21:15
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#398
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Poland czabi
true lurpiss have you lost your mind writing this shits without evidence ? This part of thread should be deleted by HLTV. wtf
2014-11-18 00:14
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World balls
err what? I dont think you understand what he wrote. he's not saying that he cheated but rather stating facts: IE there are rumors that those people cheated and that CW accused some of them of cheating. Those are facts. lurpis is just stating that since there are allegations of those players cheating and that other players have been VAC banned recently, you can't leave it up to online qualifiers.
2014-11-18 10:00
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France Sylver_
Relaying rumors is giving credit to the rumors and is considering them as highly possible. A major news shouldn't be based on rumors, this is nonsense. Everyone can create rumors, even the author itself.
2014-11-18 14:42
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Poland Adamas23
+1
2014-11-17 20:25
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Philippines yolo swaggin$
+1
2014-11-17 20:25
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Poland tamb
+1
2014-11-17 20:27
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#82
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Norway cwel
+1 he just presented your team in a bad light without any proofs
2014-11-17 20:27
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#99
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Poland termigo
Hes got butthurt becouse u have beat cph ;)
2014-11-17 20:33
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You or Lurppis might be right (no clue), but the strange thing is that usually his articles are based on facts or opinions. This is just a strange micture of 'rumours' together with his opinion on how to improve events. He should have just called for the better anti-cheat programs + less online qualifiers instead of adding the rumours to it.
2014-11-17 20:38
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World Mikey'Mike
Maybe CPH would have won if they focused on playing instead of whinning about Alsen's throw for 2 fucking maps. ESC were better and deserved to win. I bet lurppis's sources are himself and badian
2014-11-17 20:46
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Netherlands G1bby_
+1
2014-11-17 20:49
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MrFuckYou | 
United States lybrel
probably badiaN crying
2014-11-17 20:58
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Poland Saqe
+1
2014-11-17 20:59
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EXUS | 
Poland WariacikLSO
+1
2014-11-17 21:01
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#316
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Romania TRS1906
He never mentioned you were behind ddosing? Either that or I can't understand English.
2014-11-17 21:45
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United Kingdom grund
"a friend of ESC member Jacek "MINISE" Jeziak is behind another huge issues that specifically bothers the Polish Counter-Strike scene - DDoSsing."
2014-11-17 22:02
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#345
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Romania TRS1906
Exactly, a friend.
2014-11-17 22:06
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#347
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United Kingdom grund
It's implied that minise is involved though. And I think the first version of this article didn't mention minise' friend. It just said minise.
2014-11-17 22:07
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#348
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World Mwjk13
A friend... not minise.
2014-11-17 22:07
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#349
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United Kingdom grund
2014-11-17 22:08
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#361
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World kalelnp
"To further add to that, there's been rumours that a friend of ESC member Jacek "MINISE" Jeziak is behind another huge issues that specifically bothers the Polish Counter-Strike scene - DDoSsing". ur quote changes the entire meaning
2014-11-17 22:18
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#371
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United Kingdom grund
same quote. I'm not saying that lurppis confirmed minise' friend is a ddoser, I'm only pointing out the part where he mentions it. (I am replying to someone asking where he was mentioned)
2014-11-17 22:36
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#43
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United States marlax
lurppis casually calling rallen out
2014-11-17 20:20
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#52
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France frenchpeasant
Hahaha exactly my thoughts!
2014-11-17 20:21
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#44
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Sweden maxaki
Good post. I like you now Lurrpis.
2014-11-17 20:20
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#62
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Netherlands chicagod
U like Lurrpis but not lurppis?
2014-11-17 20:24
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#90
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Sweden maxaki
I like you
2014-11-17 20:30
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#94
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Netherlands chicagod
I like u too
2014-11-17 20:31
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pls like me i'm watching your every stream :P
2014-11-17 20:32
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#97
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Sweden maxaki
<3
2014-11-17 20:32
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but remember no homo my friend
2014-11-17 20:35
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#143
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Sweden maxaki
i'll be careful, you can trust me.
2014-11-17 20:43
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#124
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zehN | 
Finland jemmis
Lurpisii best ;d+
2014-11-17 20:39
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#47
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France frenchpeasant
lurppis_ clearly the best. WADUP NOW HLTV COMMUNITY? WOUH
2014-11-17 20:21
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#322
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Luxembourg moheLdIAbLo
wave after wave
2014-11-17 21:52
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#50
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Argentina Crotazzo
i would propose that online qualifiers are held with a mandatory more agressive/invasive official anticheat that not only scans every bit of pc memory but also provides a virtual machine enviroment to make external software harder to filter in. Its obvious that such anticheat would be illegal to use on the common user, but if you are playing an official walve qualifier you must agree to it. Do i make any sense? would it be possible? ... pls someone with more knowledge chip in.
2014-11-17 20:21
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#51
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Germany jojA
The hackusations are unnecessary, there are enough known cases to make a point without them. I agree with the groupstages tho.
2014-11-17 20:21
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#442
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Norway simen
+1 I'd replace that entire section with something like: "Rumors abound about specific peoole in the high-level scene either cheating directly, or being behind DDoS attacks. No names will be mentioned without evidence, but without taking any position on exactly whom it applies to, the laws of statistics say that some of the rumors are probably true. Given how prevalent cheating is in matchmaking, where the only award is a virtual rank, it seems highly unlikely that large monetary rewards would not incentivize some people to cheat or disrupt games to gain an edge." That paragraph gets the point across without overstepping any lines. It says more or less what lurppis was trying to say, if I understood him correctly, but it doesn't further fan the flames of rumors that have yet to be substantiated by evidence. Calling out known cheaters who were caught by anticheat and whose cases have been carefully reviewed is fair, but I have a sneaking suspicion most successful cheaters will be able to evade decisive evidence against them until either online matches lose their significance or a significantly better anticheat is developed & deployed. And so they will, as is only fair (fair to the actually innocent), remain innocent until proven guilty.
2014-11-18 06:39
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#535
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United Kingdom QNo
Yup, it's an important article, but such specific accusations without concrete evidence are bad journalism.
2014-11-19 13:12
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#55
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Portugal Xandeee
Meh
2014-11-17 20:22
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#58
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Europe acid_drinker
rallen was cheating in 1.6 =)
2014-11-17 20:23
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stop living the past, he's lan proven already.
2014-11-17 20:24
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#74
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Norway kakkopp
that dosent meen shit!
2014-11-17 20:25
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it does
2014-11-17 20:27
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#89
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Europe acid_drinker
what lan are you talking about?
2014-11-17 20:30
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couple of EPS Poland finals, he didn't got any better chances to prove himself. he'll rise at DHW hopefully.
2014-11-17 20:37
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#125
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Europe acid_drinker
I think Poland had only one EPS finals? So I wouldn't say it was "couple". VP also didn't attend.
2014-11-17 20:39
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wut? there is 10th series of EPS going on right now, vp did attend to almost all of them, except for the last one i think
2014-11-17 20:42
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#155
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Europe acid_drinker
EPS Finals are on lan. You want to tell me that in Poland you had it already 10 times? You had only one cs:go final
2014-11-17 20:45
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#186
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Poland innocent-
vp were on every eps finals in csgo so far, we had 2, on last 1 we as ESC won over ALSEN and lost to VP. We decided to pick rallen after michu left us cause he basically was carrying whole alsen for their time being, even putting 50 bombs in match against us (esc) with 2 overtimes. We though bad about him, but he proven himself in our eyes and seems like it was good decision. Shame it causes butthurt. Happens.
2014-11-17 20:50
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#209
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Europe acid_drinker
my man, I didn't say he is bad or something. I said that he was cheating in past 1.6. As you probably know, only polish people are watching EPS in Poland and nobody knows how he plays at lan. For today he isn't lan proven player. Time will show, how bad/good all your mates are. You have shit group in upcoming DH but you know that besides results you can also see how player performs. onlineJ if you know what I mean.
2014-11-17 20:56
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#230
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Poland innocent-
i havent told he is lan proven player, i told he proven himself in our eyes, as players. shame that lurpis placed only wrong side of us in article, didnt mentioned about ddosing us, that we were losing previous qualifiers because of ddos and we are not here from today, we lost final matches to qualify for all majors before, every game under heavy ddos attacks. i should write something about it soon:)
2014-11-17 21:00
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#113
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Finland JOLLEHAHA
but.. but.. emilio was lan proven ))))
2014-11-17 20:37
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#132
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Poland micronn
Still he could cheat to play with better players, many semipro players are doing like that.
2014-11-17 20:41
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#370
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Poland f0sheR
Yeah, and emilio if proof that people can cheat even on lans. So take rallen for example, you didn't attend to lans often, many people think that you are a cheater, and let's say he is cheating. So, he finally was picked by team, which wants to go to an offline tournament, if he dodged he would still be considered. So what stops him from cheating on lan, if u have a lot of experience in hiding your cheats. So basically he has three options: go to lan and choke - he is done, don't go to lan - he is done, go to lan with cheats and perform well - you're becoming "lan proved player". Isn't it worth risk? btw. I'm not accusing anyone or taking any side, but scenario I've wrote might be real in my opinion.
2014-11-17 22:34
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#513
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Poland micronn
When it's possible on eu lans it's high possible that semipro players are doing that on pl lans. I don't know why event admins don't install some kind of software to log all actions in os etc. there are many nice software there even with lan features so they can check logs form 1 pc.
2014-11-18 17:28
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#514
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Poland f0sheR
But admins have problems to start lan in time, so installing such software and then checking is out of question I guess.
2014-11-18 17:51
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#516
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Poland micronn
So they are weak admins, I've organized few years ago my last cs 1.6 tournament in Szczecin, had enought time to do everything good and I even installed logging software. I was checking all pcs from my pc and it was an easy work. The best part is that I organized alone this tournament from technical side. Computer conf, network conf, game conf, software conf etc. ___ Imo events like that should hire some admin to check the pcs logs, so there would be no cheaters etc.
2014-11-18 18:01
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#518
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Poland f0sheR
Because u did it for community, not for yourself. A lot of polish lans, especially csgames, are getting stuff from sponsors and organizers gets more than winner. I've heard some stories that even redactor on their website's got some keyboard worth more than 200z&#322;. I'm not sure about other lans though.
2014-11-18 18:11
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#59
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Iceland dayton
+1
2014-11-17 20:23
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#64
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Europe Pear_
Couldn't agree more with everything. Absolutely disgusting to think about teams potentially getting cheated from participating in a major and 50k because of someone cheating. LAN qualifiers is the only solution to this. It is obvious the format of the majors has to be altered, pointless to have a team play two bo1 matches and then go straight home. No time to prove their skill.
2014-11-17 20:24
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#66
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Chile Szymsoooon
won od ESC nooby! Denmark only can cry.
2014-11-17 20:24
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#67
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Scotland kingpug
I honestly don't think Valve care enough, they just want a basic tournament that nets them some money, they don't want to do what's right but what's more profitable. Valve are as bad as EA when it comes to being money hungry, I know they need to make money but there has to be a line drawn somewhere and with Valve and EA that line is nowhere to be seen.
2014-11-17 20:24
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#212
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United Kingdom Gumpster
Yet they share the money out with various skin makers, map makers and the orgs/players themselves. That isn't a company who simply "cares about money". The biggest issue is cost vs reward and the fact that they don't run these majors themselves, they have partners in the form of DreamHack & ESL currently who run the majors for them, so it's a little more difficult on what Valve can/cannot do with the events that are put on. For example, ESL One Cologne was at another event, so it isn't up for grabs in terms of renting space out for a longer period of time. The bootcamp is a great idea, but whether this leads to further use at 2015 events, considering some events won't be in Sweden, which means additional costs if they were to use Inferno Online and then fly them to another country. The current event format means that it is incredibly profitable for all parties involved, but costs could spiral if they were do as Lurppis suggests which is something to put into an argument/debate.
2014-11-17 20:57
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#533
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United Kingdom hipsterci
+1
2014-11-19 11:38
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#68
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Sweden zayNN
+1
2014-11-17 20:25
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#71
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Poland aeles
Good read and well argumented. I'm with you on this one.
2014-11-17 20:25
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#76
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Vietnam Onomatopoeia
Good content, not much of it though.
2014-11-17 20:26
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#77
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Belgium JerCkysMini0n
calling out rallen & then to accuse minise of DDOSING...... lurppis wtf.... anyways i do agree with the fact that everytime there is money involved we see suspicious plays being made for individuals and that we need to do something about online qualifiers for such events
2014-11-17 20:26
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#78
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Norway kakkopp
its safe to say some teams got cheated of for spots at dh
2014-11-17 20:26
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#86
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Brazil bandicoot
who the fuck has time to watch a cs game over 5 hours? and thats just one match and not even final? other I agree
2014-11-17 20:29
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#88
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United Kingdom spart-
Dis gun be gud
2014-11-17 20:30
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#95
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Germany R3TR0G077
"Following PENTA's surprising qualification to the major, thanks to a narrow victory over HellRaisers, multiple people familiar with the situation suggested someone on the team cheated to ensure their great reads in the match." Lurpiss unprofessionalism at its best. :D so retarted :D
2014-11-17 20:36
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+1 this is the worst article from lurppis. that words at PENTA and ESC sounds just like someone being salty no idea why.
2014-11-17 20:38
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#181
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Germany R3TR0G077
he just has something against penta, who occasionally one against teams like verygames when they were still alternate. they won against the most incosistent top tier team and suddenly its hacks. He's just so butthurt, just let them get a little bit of lan experience even though they'll probably not do any damage. At least we can see krystal spiidi and maybe denis give some headshots against top teams. Since its the only german team that has a little bit of talent and doesnt consist of idiots. Same for esc, just because someone says they hack, doesnt make it true...
2014-11-17 20:49
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#520
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Portugal antCB
we will see them playing on lan, then. I do not believe in everything that's written in HLTV. But I've seen Penta play online, and they're just TOO GOOD to be true.
2014-11-18 19:44
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#522
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Germany R3TR0G077
how are they too good? they rarely beat a good team
2014-11-18 20:20
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#228
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Finland siloquez
And why you get so emotional about that shit? If it didn't bother you why rage so much? Maybe there is truth behind it after all...
2014-11-17 21:00
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Where am i raging m8? It's just kinda annoying to read such a bullshit from such a nice guy like lurppis.
2014-11-17 21:10
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#100
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Denmark eduardo689
'To further add to that, there's been rumours that a friend of ESC member Jacek "MINISE" Jeziak is behind another huge issues that specifically bothers the Polish Counter-Strike scene - DDoSsing.' - eh, it was known for a long time. + 1 lurppis for that.
2014-11-17 20:33
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do you have any source? :) or just salty cause of some n00bs getting out of quals?
2014-11-17 20:34
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#137
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Denmark eduardo689
Yep, I do have, but i will not talk about it on hltv. Just sayin' that lurppis is right. Maybe one day there will be other news about that.
2014-11-17 20:42
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17 replies
kappa no proof = you're wrong
2014-11-17 20:46
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#165
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Denmark eduardo689
proof = I don't have to share it with u.
2014-11-17 20:47
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because u don't have it.
2014-11-17 20:48
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#339
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France Ga5huX
Or you don't want to admit it could be right. I don't think lurppis would take the risk to say this in an official article without proofs.
2014-11-17 22:00
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Nah m8 he's clearly lying with his "evidence". That childish attitude "i know but i won't tell" says everything :)
2014-11-18 10:24
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#161
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Poland -Furi.
haha really? like seriously, really? dude I have a source confirming that you are going to shit yourself soon but I'm not willing to share the information when its gonna happen you just have to wait and create a thread saying how bad it was ok?
2014-11-17 20:46
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#176
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Denmark eduardo689
Ok, I'm waiting for that thread. Guys, srsly, I'm not mad or smth, just saying that lurppis is right about that - maybe you should ask HIM for proof?
2014-11-17 20:48
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#188
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Poland -Furi.
Why would we ask him if he is the one spreading rumours and u are apparently the one that knows the truth? stop being a shitbag and dont state bullshit without proof where its not needed. Your reasoning for not sharing it just proves that you have no clue about this topic
2014-11-17 20:50
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#216
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Denmark eduardo689
I'm not the only one that knows the truth. I think that you are one of his fans who believed that he did not bet on alsen vs eliminacja, eh...
2014-11-17 20:58
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3 replies
he did bet, so would you do in his situation, don't be hypocrite.
2014-11-17 21:01
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#252
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Denmark eduardo689
Yes, but he said about 20 times on his stream that he didn't bet, and of course 90% of his viewers believed him... I'm not a hypocrite, just saying that he is lying his viewers.
2014-11-17 21:06
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#247
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Poland -Furi.
But you are the one that has spoken that know it for no reason other than to annoy people :) Im not a fan I just know who he is from being a standin in vp and playing for poland
2014-11-17 21:03
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#168
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Poland kRAMERO
let me know this source... pleas prv msg :)
2014-11-17 20:47
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#184
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Denmark eduardo689
Sorry, nope. I don't know you.
2014-11-17 20:49
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#269
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Poland kRAMERO
so stop talking bullshit naps
2014-11-17 21:18
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#285
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Poland WariacikLSO
whats wrong with you? if you share evidence with us, you will only be proud of yourself by deleting unfair player/team from esport! otherwise you are just pathetic liar and moron, do you really think that people would believe in the froth spilled by mr. nobody?
2014-11-17 21:24
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okay bro DDOS confirmed bb internet
2014-11-17 21:40
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#183
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Poland endron
Cadian is that you ?
2014-11-17 20:49
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#194
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Denmark eduardo689
Yes, it's me and I have created that acc only for blaming ESC. Eh, I see that minise has many Polish fans.
2014-11-17 20:52
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#213
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Poland apEEl
You are defending CPHW and we are defending ESC, what is so hard to understand? You don't wanna show source? Then stfu, you are not creditable
2014-11-17 20:58
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#219
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Denmark eduardo689
stfum? sorry, could u explain what does it mean?
2014-11-17 20:58
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#235
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Poland apEEl
the "M" is next to comma on keyboard, I've already edited it 30 seconds before your reply.
2014-11-17 21:01
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#229
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Poland endron
Are You suprised? He isn't that well known outside Polish scene. I am just a little bit annoyed with your kindergarten attitude("I know but I won't tell") and accusations about Polish player without giving any hard proofs. I have watched both maps in CPH vs ESC match and all I can say is that both teams were ddosed, both were BM. It was a typical online game with an outcome influenced by ddos but spewing nonsence is just not fair. At least give a proof so I can change my opinion on that subject.
2014-11-17 21:00
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#244
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Denmark eduardo689
Danish flag on my profile &#8800; I'm Danish
2014-11-17 21:02
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#498
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Brazil bandicoot
&#8800;? sorry, could u explain what does it mean?
2014-11-18 15:34
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#232
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Denmark eduardo689
Ok, I won't talk with u guys anymore. I believe that lurppis will find information about minise. Hopefully he will write other news about it. SEE YA.
2014-11-17 21:00
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#284
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Norway cwel
yeah but for now just deal with it that CW just crying like a babies without proof and you embrassing yourself :(
2014-11-17 21:24
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#110
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Brazil willbiceps
a solution for qualifiers, is embarking on lan, not online, even on lan has fewer teams but always be 100% reliable, so that more guys like Cly, emilio and smn not appear, also eliminating DDoS attacks and others.
2014-11-17 20:37
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#115
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Poland Mdv
Stop talking bullshites Lurpis :)
2014-11-17 20:37
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#119
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Poland micronn
I agree. Plus Valve should do smth about 16tick demos: hltv.org/blog/8930-16tick-demos
2014-11-17 20:39
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#121
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Russia razortw
Pretty much same things I'd say in this case.
2014-11-17 20:38
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#123
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Bosnia and Herzegovina NY033
Even in groups of 4 the bo3 would be nice...
2014-11-17 20:39
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DAMN, i thought Lurppis is ok guy but now i see that he like to lick Cadian ass hardly :-/ Crypenhagen Wolves thats all.
2014-11-17 20:39
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#131
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Norway cwel
same
2014-11-17 20:40
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#130
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Germany lpSykl
Well atleast there are no hints he wants Fiffy to reriere anymore....
2014-11-17 20:40
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#134
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United Kingdom Swannaz
+1
2014-11-17 20:41
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#135
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United States stratmatt
Am I the only one whose first thought was "Lurpis" as soon as they saw a headline that said "problem" in it, lol.
2014-11-17 20:41
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#153
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Iceland alex!
Well lurppis is the only one who writes articles like thesee so its not hard to connect the dots :)
2014-11-17 20:44
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#344
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France Ga5huX
Because fixing "problems" is more useful and make media more productive than wanking on everything going fine like articles about NiP drinking coffee or NiP going to the beach.
2014-11-17 22:05
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#456
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Other deeFuh
your the only one sherlock
2014-11-18 09:59
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Thanks for speaking out that their format is crap. I appreciate it :)
2014-11-17 20:43
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#159
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Canada xb0y
Good read
2014-11-17 20:46
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#166
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Sweden tupac-
+1 lurpp u are KEY for cs scene . stay this way
2014-11-17 20:47
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#171
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Czech Republic [>'.']>
LOL @ smn's recent stats
2014-11-17 20:48
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#173
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Poland SeeeQ
Nice info lurppis <kappa>
2014-11-17 20:48
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#189
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Denmark emptyslot
Lurppis didnt mention the biggest problem: the fact that 8 teams from previous major get a spot is outrageous! You only have to win two matches in order to get easy 50k in the next major, thats not fair at all...
2014-11-17 20:51
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he did mention it at the beginning of the second chapter
2014-11-17 20:53
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#204
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Norway kakkopp
he did
2014-11-17 20:54
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#190
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Sweden SWAGM
Nice article, agree with everything, as I've come to expect from you lurppis!
2014-11-17 20:51
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#208
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Bangladesh aayman
How are the LAN gaming centers at the regions participating in the majors? LAN qualifiers might not be feasible, but pre-approved gaming centers from which players play their qualifiers online might be possible.
2014-11-17 20:56
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"To further add to that, there's been rumours that a friend of ESC member Jacek "MINISE" Jeziak is behind another huge issues that specifically bothers the Polish Counter-Strike scene - DDoSsing." +1, it's true :D
2014-11-17 20:58
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#226
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United States zkipa
n1 lurppis. i agree with all points. you are right
2014-11-17 20:59
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#238
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France The Joy
Nice article, spot on.
2014-11-17 21:01
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#243
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Serbia nutcracker
gj lurp
2014-11-17 21:02
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#248
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Poland Keruzz
great article 10/10
2014-11-17 21:04
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#249
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India transformer
"Group stage could be two groups of eight teams where everyone plays everyone once in a best-of-three, with the top four finishers in each qualifying for the playoffs, to be held at the actual event. Playoffs then could reasonably be played out in best-of-five mode, truly determining who the best team in the world is - which should be the end of all goal of majors, to begin with." I totally agree with this concept. And Online qualifiers needs to be discontinued for future Majors.
2014-11-17 21:04
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Nice article . Valve should read this!
2014-11-17 21:06
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#258
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Europe Freezak
great article minise and rallen ddosing and hacking 2/10
2014-11-17 21:11
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basically this article is just trashtalking at couple of teams&players without any proofs and arguments, worst article from lurppis ever probably.
2014-11-17 21:14
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World Nolip
good +1
2014-11-17 21:17
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#270
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Poland PriVen
because was better than "pro" Cw? It is laugh that CW cry about ddos and cheat when admins checked a few demo from Esc players and ddoser ddos Esc too.. (mad Danish shit admins not delete this post i have ss (previous my post was deleted for nothing sure friend from Danish was mad?)~~~~`
2014-11-17 21:18
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#271
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Poland czardi
News on the main page of accused players without proofs. F**king bullshit. Lurppis justice wiil reach you. Cryhagen Dogs psychofan
2014-11-17 21:18
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GSL with bo1 is very random.
2014-11-17 21:18
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#273
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Bosnia and Herzegovina MILENKOLaka
Agreed.
2014-11-17 21:19
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#274
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World inharz
We should at least find a system where teams shouldn't travel hundreds or thousands of kilometers just to play a few BO1 games. Look at C9 or Cipangu at ESWC. 5 BO1 and let's go home. I think once you travel to a LAN, you should be able to play more games and not just group matches. Look at ESWC once more, maybe what they could have done is the first 3 of each groups goes to upperbracket and the last 3 goes to lowerbracket. I know this is costly and time-consuming, but the major would be much more interesting if teams like NIP or C9 weren't ruled out in the group stage.
2014-11-17 21:19
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#379
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France eMeRiKa
It's worse in major, 2 BO1 and let's go home...
2014-11-17 23:16
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#385
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France Jameeesss
5 BO1 is okay bro, you have time to acclimate and give your best. I mean it's C9 own fault they didn't make it Major event is way way worse and the best team in the world can go down in 2 random maps (with the nice random map pick) To me, either 6 teams groups with 5 Bo1 or 3 team groups with 2 matchs against each team is nice :)
2014-11-17 23:31
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#391
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World inharz
It was just an example of the fact that teams risk time and money to come to LAN and get dropped out in the group stage. I find it bad for the players, the viewers and Valve itself.
2014-11-17 23:51
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#403
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France Jameeesss
yes for majors it's really bad ... But i don't think orgs care anymore ! In the year to come, most of the expenses for travels will be covered by the events and majors generate shitload of money with stickers. Also Valve prefers offering 6 days bootcamp to every team rather than having a longer major
2014-11-18 00:30
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#282
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
haha i love these serious journalistic articles that lurppis writes. they talk about big issues and everyone gets mad. ahaha.
2014-11-17 21:23
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#283
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Finland Yupppi
Is it a possibility to hold qualifiers online but the teams would attend to them on overseen LAN centres? So that someone would be present while they play on LAN gear but the match is on online server. That would take out the problem of travelling too far and still have the players under some kind of control.
2014-11-17 21:24
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#286
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Sweden D1RTYY
Lurppis you don't have the rights to blame a player without any evidence. No offence but this is the truth i can't just write an article about something that happened "but without evidence" You don't even know how the players will feel after this article? moral?
2014-11-17 21:27
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#352
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France Ga5huX
He and some others guys have evidence, you can't just post evidences in an official article like this, and it's not even the point of the article. His point is: "too many cheaters in qualifiers" and he just gave examples. About the accusations, it's another story and new stories would probably come out soon.
2014-11-17 22:11
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#360
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Sweden D1RTYY
Thats a good point. He in a way he is right but i just want to see the evidence. If he is just writing this article to only make qual on lan its useless
2014-11-17 22:17
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#369
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France Ga5huX
The same thing happened during the ALSEN story. Before the official report about them, some guys had already posted on reddit (and on HLTV too) to say that ALSEN was throwing games for skins. But they couldn't just post the evidence like throwing a bomb in the crowd because they're not their jobs to denounce this kind of behavior (when you know someone is going to do it after). Few weeks later, official report on ALSEN and boom, the job was done. The thing is that the concerned players will react, it's going to be discussed and new articles about it will be posted, to deny or confirm the facts and you're going to have your evidences ^^ I don't think too it was necessary to go that far about the accusations (the emilio and smn cases were enough) but it's interesting to make the community aware of what is happening in the underground and preparing us to see more drama incoming (the kind of things I hate but I think it's legit).
2014-11-17 22:30
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#382
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Sweden D1RTYY
Let's wait and see :)
2014-11-17 23:24
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#289
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Finland darksiderTV
rallen cheating phahahah you mad?
2014-11-17 21:26
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#290
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Poland eiur
Talking about ESC and minise without even a piece of evidence makes this tiny twat even more retarded then he was. Hes opinion is not based on anything and he totally forgot that ESC got kicked out from last major by delpan emilio squad. The best part is delpan didint even play without antihack. Dont know whats the problem of lurrpis but he goes from great and deep analyzes to going after players or trashtalking without a prof. Thx god ure not getting invite to huge lans.
2014-11-17 21:28
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#380
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Poland eiur
didint even play with antihack
2014-11-17 23:17
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#291
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Finland ZoqFotPik
"Major Problems" -salute youtube.com/watch?v=fmAWIDI4ZgY
2014-11-17 21:28
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#293
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Nigeria moonman33
Great read, +1 with the eu lan qualifiers
2014-11-17 21:29
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#299
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Luxembourg moheLdIAbLo
rallen got banned on esea last year aswell ^__________^
2014-11-17 21:33
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#303
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United States alterbyme
More International slots! End Euro privilege now!
2014-11-17 21:35
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#307
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Afghanistan ratom2k
cheater nab
2014-11-17 21:39
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#309
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World dynz
Is this what 'newsposts' have become? An HLTV admin calling out players that he suspects are 'cheating'? Delivering his own idea's and thoughts as a 'newspost'. Jesus Christ, even though the players in question might cheat, an official newspost shouldnt never contain stuff like this.
2014-11-17 21:39
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#319
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Europe R4as0n
Lurpis can u make lan matches more noticeable? Most of the people even dont know when the big lans starts. And 70% info at HLTV main page is useless. All this was good 10-15 years ago. Now it's a joke.
2014-11-17 21:46
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Someone needs to smack this arrogant little finish prick for accusation without any evidence. He only shows one side of story probably because he is Danish fanboy.
2014-11-17 21:51
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#323
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Romania TRS1906
Some people need to learn the difference between an opinion article and a newspost.
2014-11-17 21:52
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#324
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United States smootie
nice read
2014-11-17 21:52
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#325
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Denmark chrns
Valve still haven't shown any interest in investing more into CS as an esport, and that's after three very successful majors. No improvement whatsoever, except maybe for that bootcamp they are planning. There would be so much stuff to do better, and since they haven't even started trying, I doubt they are planning to ever do more than throw a small fraction of the money they make off of the game back at other organisations to deal with the mess.
2014-11-17 21:54
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#333
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World alepov
agree
2014-11-17 21:57
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#337
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Sweden D1RTYY
Yea the solution is the lan qual but who can pay the costs? better to play online with cheats
2014-11-17 21:59
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#340
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Belgium Monu
Good read, we need more lurppis imo
2014-11-17 22:01
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#342
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World Ulany
Yea I watched international of dota 2 and the format was very good, hope it comes to CS:GO .
2014-11-17 22:02
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#343
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Poland Szekka12
Lurpis, when u`ll stop hating us?
2014-11-17 22:04
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#346
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Nepal Jüqreign
What about map choosing? I think it shouldn't be done randomly, there is no space for any randomness at the major tournaments. What about map list? de_train was simply buried by Valve. de_cobblestone is still too bad for competitive matches.
2014-11-17 22:07
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#355
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Poland phantomkrz
Polish CS scene is few levels below than scandinavian for an example . It's all about mentality. People think that they will have great victories without hard work. I thought that most people know who is the main polish ddoser - brx ...
2014-11-17 22:12
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#356
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United States JohnnyBme
Fiffalren explained a very nice system, lurrpis check the roomonfire vod
2014-11-17 22:13
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#357
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Ukraine dididididi
bo3 in groups, 4days tournament, will be enought think about that players who has studies\job cheaters its a problem until valve dont want to do real anticheat, its time to use lie detector before lan part )
2014-11-17 22:14
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#366
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Europe GildzZ
rotfl.. on rallen cheating.. lurpis your points are directly from ass.
2014-11-17 22:23
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#368
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Poland whOoOzAAA
pessimism at its finest.. running out of content dude.....
2014-11-17 22:30
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#376
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Spain R7744
"It's time we stop relying on an honor system when there is no honor around. $50,000 winners can't be decided online, not with DDoS and cheating issues like they are today." Bomb dropped. Totally agreed.
2014-11-17 22:52
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#381
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Sweden Heliumm
There should be a LAN in every country at the same time as the major qualifiers, so the players can play at the LAN and we will haf no cheaterinos
2014-11-17 23:24
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#387
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Poland tentego
wtf about minise ? this is a fucking joke
2014-11-17 23:40
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#388
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United Kingdom pl0p01
Calling out people as cheaters and ddossers without showing any evidence. Lurpiss you are very unprofessional, but I guess you're giving the 14 year old hltv trolls exactly what hey want to hear...
2014-11-17 23:45
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#461
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Poland analizator1g
+1
2014-11-18 10:31
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#393
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Brazil DUZ1
+1
2014-11-17 23:58
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#395
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Norway Cybban
+1 There are more, if not VAC, but bans coming the German Pro's way. Even "lower" pro teams in german have hackers in their team. Edit: Not just german, but I know one that haven't been caught yet. But it will happen sooner or later.
2014-11-18 00:03
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#411
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World heyguizes
Who
2014-11-18 00:55
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#396
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Finland RAMBATEN
About copenhagen wolves..Their coach Tobias 'aGA1NN' Skov was vacbanned and he even made introduction about coaching.. steamcommunity.com/id/geoxdesign
2014-11-18 00:02
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#397
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World alistilla123
well said lurppis. you could make a part 2 going into more bullshit that needs to be fixed as well.
2014-11-18 00:14
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#401
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Germany Ruben92
Great article and solid suggestions. I hope valve will take action soon. Good job lurppis.
2014-11-18 00:22
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#402
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France Sylver_
"To further add to that, there's been rumours that a friend of" you keep surprising me lurppis. "and we can, in the future, see majors where the best team really does win." Are you saying that NiP or fnatic or VP have stolen their trophies? Because this is exactly what this means. Also, if Valve does not pay the travel/hotel to all teams in the LAN qualifiers, there is no way this could happen. In a qualifier, there are at least 50% of teams not qualified, and these teams usually are subtops and don't have the money to move once or several times for a LAN. Furthermore, it's pretty hard to both require from players to be available in the Finales AND in at least one qualifier for each major. If money and time must be spent, it's better to focus on the source of the issues, cheaters. Cheaper and more useful.
2014-11-18 00:26
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nice article lurps
2014-11-18 00:35
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#406
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World top sniper
cly,emilo,smn,rallen ..... thats just tip of the iceberg
2014-11-18 00:38
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#407
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Belgium Sicario_
Nice article bro finally some1 speaking out loud and maybe some1 up there with the gabengod will listen. Valve making so much money with people cheating and buying new accounts but it will wreck the csgo community. People have daily frustrations on MM games and now pro after pro get caught so sad. I know allot of people who liked csgo initially but quit the game when cheating became such a big issue. And yes DDoS also so fucking bad but I'm afraid there isn't much you can do about that.
2014-11-18 00:45
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Lel, Lurpiss crying about ESC...wake up son. Why don't u talk about ESC in last qualifier? They lost to the morons Delpan and Emilio VACation squad. But it was ok right? But when your friends from CP got rekt, u're calling out ESC guys without evidences.
2014-11-18 00:58
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#412
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France -lionheaRt
you are clueless
2014-11-18 00:55
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you are mad
2014-11-18 00:59
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#409
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World heyguizes
Should be a points system earned at local lans rather than online shit like the old French scene thing in source. Can't remember exactly what it was like though
2014-11-18 00:53
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#410
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France -lionheaRt
online qualys for a 250k major is a terrible idea.
2014-11-18 00:54
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#414
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World dsfgfdgsaadf
be destroyed by minise ahAHHAahhahaHAHAh
2014-11-18 01:00
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#416
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World bovi77
would playing at internet cafes help prevent the DDOS problems? so an approved i.cafe(s) at each country where players can go to play out their matches over the internet. To require LAN only is not practical. The cost of travel & accomodation (time & money) limits gobal participation. for anti-cheat, require live video feed showing the monitor views of players taken from behind them. we should be using technology to solve this.
2014-11-18 01:20
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#419
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World implord
If you were one of the people accused of cheating without evidence you can sue hltv.org for defamation, have the article removed and probably get a settlement from hltv.org.
2014-11-18 01:47
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#420
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United States onesh0tFINCH
420|Blaze it
2014-11-18 01:56
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#425
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Denmark valz`
Big accusations in this thread. Good points throughout, hoping that this sturs some things up! Wondering how CPHW feels about all this ESC shit
2014-11-18 02:15
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#431
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United States HyperionN
Really good post, would LOVE to see bo3 round-robin groups and bo5 playoffs. Even though it would probably mean the end of C9
2014-11-18 02:46
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#435
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Portugal SantosF
Nice article, in online qualifiers is not just the hack, but some teams are impaired because of them net.
2014-11-18 03:24
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#440
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United States mah9
definitely. we need better group stages and more bo5's. hopefully the tournaments start this sooner rather than later.
2014-11-18 04:26
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#441
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United States Steady^
Great read thanks for the article.
2014-11-18 04:52
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#443
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Romania obsessionro
valve`s bad +1 :(
2014-11-18 06:40
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#444
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United States fragurass
+1 lurppis Good article. Good points.
2014-11-18 06:50
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#445
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Austria aurimasu
ddossing and cheating must be fixed first. stop doing shit about other "problems" like gun skins and fix that, something is actually needed for players. gl
2014-11-18 06:54
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#446
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Finland Dick Thunder
Good article again by Lurppis. Though I agree some of the cheater accusations based on rumours were unnecessary.
2014-11-18 07:23
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#447
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Monsen | 
Norway Piesso
Wasnt it BYOC Qualifiers on DreamHack back in the days? That would've been great. I think most people can see problems with a 256 team LAN qualifier. Maybe CS should get a ranking system, like they got in football? Then they could just invite 8-16 teams to a LAN qualifier, instead of 200 teams who never had a shot anyways.
2014-11-18 08:00
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#451
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World gyshter
Do you ever plan on becoming professional player yourself? Cuz if you do, you are contradicting yourself right there in the post.
2014-11-18 09:19
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#453
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Monsen | 
Norway Piesso
How come? If a team is good enough they will have good enough rank to be invited to qualifiers. If they don't they have a year to improve their rank. It's a pretty fair system if you ask me.
2014-11-18 09:35
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#502
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World gyshter
Yes but its a much harder way, in Italy lets say, you have Serie A, B, B1, C, C1/2 and few others. By the time you reach Serie A the game would be dead like 1.6 is. I hope you understand my point.
2014-11-18 16:05
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#525
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Monsen | 
Norway Piesso
Yeah, because CS 1.6 only lasted like 10 years.
2014-11-18 22:10
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#449
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Sweden mr-gusse
Not getting enough attention, so you have to turn to hackusations to get some? Why don't you try to actually think before you post something like that. What good is there in posting such crap without proof? Seriously.... You have some valid Points, LAN-qualifiers ok but then hackusations?? WTF!!
2014-11-18 08:47
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#450
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World gyshter
Lurppis, you are going full retard way too often my man.
2014-11-18 09:18
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#452
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Finland tobiski
I also wondered if the webcam live feed could solve the problem with cheating in online matches. One thing that comes in mind, is that opponent could see your play style and starts, but what if the webcam video feed was required to upload after the match?
2014-11-18 09:19
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lurppis is right .... to much cheaters lately because there is no good anti bann system. also alot of smurfing happening lately because all those noobs can't handle their own ranks i'm only mg1 so don't rage but on every game their is atleast1 guy in my game with less than 100 hrs
2014-11-18 10:18
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#460
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Poland analizator1g
Captain Obvious thats you? bleah
2014-11-18 10:31
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#462
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Other Zouuu
Awesome read. I like it !!!
2014-11-18 10:59
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Lurpiss actually giving solutions. I thought he was not paid to give solutions??!! Anyway, good article. Good ideas too.
2014-11-18 11:00
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#464
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World Swishh
Lurppis should be fired from HLTV. What the heck is that, openly accusing people without evidence? Very unprofessional, HLTV.org should reconsider their role - is it to deliever news about the scene or call out potential cheaters? Most unprofessional news-site in any case I know of, you lost all respect. :)
2014-11-18 11:12
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#473
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Ireland eksero
He didn't accuse anyone? He said there's rumours, which is true...?
2014-11-18 12:50
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#476
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World Swishh
Well, I just don't think it is right to call out people when there has not been evidence. He could have written "there are many romours about prominent players cheating" instead of actually calling e.g. rallen out
2014-11-18 13:08
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#465
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Poland n!ki
Well, being honest all of that is possible, but posting all that without any proofs is making this site's reputation similar to www.celebrity-gossip.net. hackusations - nice word. Simply saying, PROOFS OR DELETE.
2014-11-18 11:20
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He's right. Lurpiss speak the truth here. Maybe it's not the best way to put it, but he gives his opinion, as usual. Also, most of them are Polish, so I understand you mad.
2014-11-18 11:49
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Lurppis? Im out
2014-11-18 11:51
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#474
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World pelicannon
a major problem with the title of this thread
2014-11-18 12:56
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#475
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Netherlands JUNG13
so many butthurt Germans... while in fact it's was truly a shadow play and some genius calls from PENTA during their match with HR LMAO
2014-11-18 13:03
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#477
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Ukraine thisisit
"What if instead of a six day bootcamp, Valve gave teams three days to practice at a location similar to Inferno Online" this bootcamp idea is not rly good with the schedule of the teams playing against others already done. Half of them will be wandering around the club, observing and remembering the rounds of the oponent team, so it's very tricky and uncomfortable, since your enemy will be aware of your tactics and all you'll have to depend on will be your aiming...
2014-11-18 13:18
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Haha CPHW get kicked from DHW and crying so bad they want that stickers money hahaha but nope poles gonna take it :D Gl on DHW Esc team! I hope you will be able to beat some teams but it's hard group for you
2014-11-18 13:26
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#479
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Norway neveredgy69
What Lurppis said. You cant host 50k qual. online. Ofc ppl are gonna cheat. Especialy when the downside of getting caught is like nothing :D
2014-11-18 13:57
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#480
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World prolim
There are some rules refering to the journalists, and lurpis definitely broke one of them. In Poland false/without proofs accusing somebody about bad behaviour which can humiliate this person in eyes of society is a crime
2014-11-18 14:05
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#481
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Poland Pawel95
Instead of making a post about "How some known cheaters don't get banned even after 2 months" and asking Valve why there is no more money invested for a better Vac system, you GUESS who could cheat or ddos people, and blame them? I thought this is a serious site for cs go and I thought your reports and topics are serious aswell. However guessing that minsie COULD be behind a ddos (or pashas daughter or gaben himselves) is just totally unprofessional! If you are the first person who can detect the source of a Ddos attack, weeks after it happend, you should write an application to the NSA in the USA. Wow Mousesport won 16-14 against VP last, does that mean one of them have cheated??? If you cannot prove that rallen was cheating, please just don't write any bullshit at all and then trying to prove it with a close win and a "strong t side". If ge gets caught, you can laugh about him, make posts about him and everything else. Up to here you just picked one guy and say that he is cheating. Great, that's the level of randoms in matchmaking : "Report this guy, he is cheating. Just because I suck and I'm loosing."
2014-11-18 14:14
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#482
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Finland MiAGiiii
Bad article. Please pack your knives and go.
2014-11-18 14:17
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#484
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Poland Mister NIKI
Hey Lurppris ! Or maybe ESC ddos themselves? :D haha Hltv admins pls ban Lurppris.
2014-11-18 14:32
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#485
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Portugal wutz
VALVE do a good anticheat, put 128 svs, improve the game!!!!!
2014-11-18 14:35
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#488
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Denmark crZy
I dont get why people give lurppis a shitstorm even though he is a fucking retard - unlike most of you, he at least have the balls to confront the scene with the things players are worrying about. He is absolutely right in stating the things in that article, yeah maybe he shouldnt write about DDoS from MINISE, but it most certainly looked like every ddos attack was favouring ESC Gaming - not the other way around, even if innocent was ddosed it didnt had any impact cause the accusations against rallen with cheat, is a whole other story - and if sources reported elsewise to him, who are you to tell him not to write it in an article which doesnt reflect hltv, but lurppis opinions on the matter? That his call, and i definately think he is doing the right thing. I can confirm, that at least 1 of the faceit admins, agreed to rallen cheating, he actually was kicked from the admins team because he didnt want to let ESC go through. The other team in question is PENTA, and i couldnt agree more, just take the case with smn - raping everyone online, and i mean, i beat him with one of my first csgo teams on cph games 16-1 after they took down NiP & Titan online just a few weeks before - that kinda tells everything. PENTA , again , the only player who actually performed on lan , is kRYSTAL - and then Spiidi a little bit, but he didnt get the chance that much, though he had positive ratings from cph games 2013. r0bs3n, denis, and even fel1x is to me very dodgy, fel1x who have performed 1 good game on lan in his entire career, rest is way under average compared to his online performances - against NiP on dreamhack; hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=7323&event.. Then we have denis, a guy that never went to lan, at least not with any impact, or any recorded stats, together with his team, gets to qualify to a major and just earned his team 50.000 by taking down teams they would get absolutely wrecked by on lan - now that is something to take serious, and that is deeply disturbing to the csgo scene. #LANQUALIFIERSFORMAJORS #NOMOREONLINE :)
2014-11-18 14:46
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#501
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Other roychez
"I can confirm, that at least 1 of the faceit admins, agreed to rallen cheating, he actually was kicked from the admins team because he didnt want to let ESC go through." The admin who agreed was not part of the demo team. There were about seven others who looked at the demo and disagreed with his opinion. He was not kicked because of anything related to the ESC vs. CPH Wolves match, he was removed because he was leaking scores and GOTV IPs, while we were trying to keep it private to avoid further DDOS (again, this was in a different match than CPH Wolves and ESC).
2014-11-18 16:03
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#507
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Denmark crZy
The only thing i know Ronald, is that the admin was 100% sure cheating was the case in this matter. I dont know about any other conflicts you might have had, thats not related to this either - what is related is the "cheating accusations" against rallen specifically. On another note, glad to see it ran much smoother than last big online qualifier you had! =)
2014-11-18 16:34
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#508
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Other roychez
Just wanted to clear it up :) I think most of our qualifiers since DHW '13 have ran smoothly!
2014-11-18 16:37
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#509
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Denmark crZy
(y)
2014-11-18 16:50
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#490
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Bulgaria FoXy
"can a few thousand euros for travel be too much? I say no."...Are you serous about this Tomi? This has always been a huge problem for esports. Travelling costs for the teams, the reason why lower /mid skilled teams have to sell their asses and beg for money and "mercy" on the sponsors... And what will happen with the teams that don't have these sponsors? You can't take the fun out of esports and exchange it for money. The thing you suggested could be valid for few teams in Europe and few in America (only the pro well-sponsored teams). And if it happens it will turn the whole tournament/event concept into pay-to-play strategy and will not lead to anything good for esports. Stupid valve could spend 20,000 and pay for the development of an anti-cheat program, but they are not interested in that because they don't care for the community. The only reason they put money in CS: GO is to get more money from the community afterwards.
2014-11-18 14:48
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#491
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Denmark crZy
Cmon foxy, when there is +500.000$ in stickers money, its not too hard to make a qualifier with 50k of them securing the tournament and making it all played out on lan with more maps for all the contestants. Its useless putting money into an Anticheat which will only be bypassed again, and again, and again and again. LAN is the only way to do it.
2014-11-18 14:53
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#492
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Bulgaria FoXy
heh, and how will u pick the right teams to attend? Do you have any idea how many teams will apply when the trip is covered?
2014-11-18 14:56
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#493
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Denmark crZy
Yes i do, and that is why you make a lan qualifier with either 16 or 32 teams - the top teams are already invited, so its kinda easy if you make a LAN based ranking from 2013/14 and simply let teams earn their way. The other option is, to hold part of it online to cut the size down - but the important part in all of this, is that they still get to battle it out on LAN for the final spots. The third option is, to use the lan statistics, and hold a qualifier online which secures 2/4 spots for the LAN qualifier which then grants access to the 50.000$ prize money in stickers, if you win that is. If the next qualifier for a major tournament is online, you can be 150% to see me there. :)
2014-11-18 15:00
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#494
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Bulgaria FoXy
There are a lot of new formed teams which will not fall among the 2013/2014 charts. How will u seed then?
2014-11-18 15:03
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#495
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Denmark crZy
If the teams are formed with 3 of the old members (which in many cases are true) they should be able to maintain the rankings from the old team. If that is too difficult, then it opens up for option #3 for the newer teams - to play an online qualifier winning LAN qualifier spot. If all teams are with 5 new players, and the 2013 / 14 rankings cant be used, you simply hold PART Of it online, and let the better teams play out against the teams all of us know arent going to qualify, this way earning their way to the closed 32 teams lan qualifier. makes sense :D?
2014-11-18 15:07
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#496
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Czech Republic jYrY
why host LAN qualifiers when you have smaller LAN tournaments which can give out slots at Major to lets say top 2 finishers?
2014-11-18 15:08
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#497
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World khaaaN
+1337
2014-11-18 15:27
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#499
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Poland unlrox
lurppis r u mad m9?
2014-11-18 15:37
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#515
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Denmark  Wiccan
Good article as always, lurppis!
2014-11-18 17:51
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#521
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Poland Drimacus
Please ban this guy who wrote this article it's so unprofesional and lack of any evidences n.c Damn so low hltv
2014-11-18 20:18
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You are kidding right?
2014-11-18 20:36
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#526
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United States lynnski
Awesome read!
2014-11-18 23:27
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#527
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Sweden tylers
valve really has to rethink their strategies
2014-11-18 23:31
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#531
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Bangladesh Stoffi
Nice read. Can only agree with the content of the article. If cs:go in e-sport has to be seen as professionel - they have focus much more on lan. And for big international events - then lan qualifying-events in different countries or areas, to limit the travel expenditures for the organizations. More over - the lan events has to be professionel. If there are no technical reasons a team cant play at the planned time at a lan, they are kick from the tournament.
2014-11-19 10:52
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#537
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xseveN | 
Finland NUCL3AR
5/5 would read again
2014-11-20 00:30
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#540
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Canada Kuruption
Why doesn't Valve just create a anti-cheat for the majors?? I don't understand they created the game.. If esea and cevo can do it why cant Valve
2014-11-20 04:25
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#542
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Italy favoxhille
good read ,well justified and smart solutions for the future majors/tournaments
2014-11-21 02:05
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#543
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Finland thaizntgoud
csgo rip
2014-11-22 02:24
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