Video: f0rest vs. LDLC

30-11-2014 01:15

Highlight info

Player:	Patrik "⁠f0rest⁠" Lindberg
Match:	NiP vs. LDLC
Final result:	16:4 (11:4; 5:0)
Match date:	29.11.2014.
Map:	de_inferno
Event:	DreamHack Winter 2014
Weapon:	AK-47 Redline
Action situation:	Score tied at 2-2

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nice! great music and semmlers casting fits perfectly

2014-11-30 01:17

9 replies

completely right, the crowd + semmlers is just amazing.

2014-11-30 01:49

I hope they let semmler and another caster who has English mother tongue casting the games would be perfect. The way semmler is picking the right words at the right times is just perfect!

2014-11-30 12:03

7 replies

Semmler and Anders = RoomOnFire, English casters <3

2014-11-30 17:00

2 replies

He didn't speak about Anders...

2014-11-30 20:59

1 reply

Exactly :)

2014-11-30 21:21

semmler is french if im not mistaken.

2014-11-30 19:04

3 replies

semmler is from USA guys...

2014-11-30 19:40

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my bad, i thought he was french cuz of the massounat or sm shit.

2014-11-30 21:05

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He's half French, one of his parents is French and he speaks the language, but he has American citizenship and that's where he grew up.

2014-12-02 03:44

f0rest mvp bro

2014-11-30 01:16

Enjoy the PS4 mate

2014-11-30 01:17

1 reply

2014-11-30 02:25

BEST AIMER SORRY SCREAM

2014-11-30 01:17

2 replies

if that's scream he'd it with 1 bullet each :)

2014-11-30 01:35

1 reply

he'd hit 2 guys with 2 bullets and then die and lose a round rofl

2014-11-30 10:30

forest best cs player in history, but he didnt deserve this mvp

2014-11-30 01:18

18 replies

happy one man army all the way he was carrying his team through the shitstorm at the moments most bleak

2014-11-30 01:30

more people voted him, so yes he do deserve it. but yes happy was good too, but more people think forest deservers it more. :)

2014-11-30 02:20

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MVP of a tournament is something that awards performance, not fan base. A vote from the community isn't a good idea for this. Stats wise, Happy played better than f0rest, with a better K/D, and a better rating over the all tournament.

2014-11-30 02:27

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+1;although i m a big f0rest fan since 1.6,i voted for happy cause he deserved it,too bad kids thought otherwise.

2014-11-30 13:59

Stats ain't everything.

2014-11-30 14:12

9 replies

In order to choose the MVP? Sure it is, because the rest is just too biased.

2014-11-30 14:14

8 replies

If stats were everything, they wouldn't ask for votes. They'd just give it to the one with best K/D

2014-11-30 14:15

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They asked for votes so that viewers can play a part in the decision, that's all. It's obvious that a player like Neo or f0rest with a huge fan base will always be elected MVP as long as he reaches the final. It's completely unfair to call for a vote from the viewers in order to elect an MVP. If you're gonna ask for a vote, pro players should vote, it's not accurate enough either, but it's a lot better.

2014-11-30 14:20

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I'm a huge f0rest fan, but I completely agree. Maybe they could have two awards, the community-award and another award given out by experts/pros /KD or something.

2014-11-30 16:50

No, you have to judge the stats in context. Sure Happy had better K/D, but f0rest had almost the same KPR and he had many high-impact kills. Like in this video, single-handedly winning the round. Acing T side pistol round against HR. Eco mowdowns don't count for shit compared to a single round-winning kill, because the eco mowdown would be handled fine by your teammates and the round would be won anyway, while sometimes just one or two kills in a round make the crucial difference. For the record, I agree that Happy was the MVP of this tournament, but with f0rest as a close second. But that's considering the stats in context. Out of context stats are only tentative. Fifflaren going negative every single tournament is indicative of poor performance. 9-44 is inexcusable. But sometimes the guy who goes 19-21 has a bigger impact on the game than the one who drops a thirty bomb largely due to racking up cheap kills on anti-ecos.

2014-12-02 03:52

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Stats in context are still stats. Of course it's better if you have context, but my only point was that a vote from the community isn't an accurate way to choose an MVP, and apart from stats, there's not real unbiased way to look for the MVP of an event.

2014-12-02 12:41

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I agree with you that a community vote is a popularity context, not a good judge of who was the real MVP. However the old adage about lies, damned lies and statistics still holds. Stats are not unbiased unless considered in context. And it's almost impossible to consider stats in context without introducing bias. Thus, making an "unbiased" evaluation is almost impossible. One must simply attempt to be as unbiased as possible. If you really want to make a thorough evaluation of who was the most valuable player, you have to go through the demos of each of the probable candidates and evaluate each and every action, every frag, and consider how much each kill or death impacted the result of the game. But of course no one's going to make that effort, that's probably at least 10 hours of work. Much easier to simply point to one or two statistical numbers and call it a day. So I agree with you about the community vote, but I can't agree that statistics are unbiased. Statistics require interpretation, and interpretation almost always introduces some measure of bias. They are at best a rough guideline.

2014-12-03 01:34

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The bias in stats properly interpreted is not that big. Of course any information, once it's handled by a human, becomes biased to some degree, but the job of an analyst is to prevent the bias from growing as stats are processed, while extracting meaning out of them, and I believe it can be achieved pretty well as long as the analyst is serious enough in his task.

2014-12-03 09:28

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And my point was exactly that. Stats must be interpreted to be anything but a rough guideline, and properly interpreting them in context is hard work.

2014-12-03 18:42

most people think forest deserves it more because hes got a massive fanbase and of course they will say that :) If you look at happy, he has to igl, mad frag, awp. He truly deserved it this event. You rarely see players so complete on the top level of cs. Shame that the huge fan base of nip fluctuated the votes severely.

2014-11-30 05:26

I didn't even get a choice, went to the link it said you have already voted! (._.)

2014-11-30 03:19

neo best cs player of all time im suprised a polek said it is f0rest. and i agree happy should have won the mvp title

2014-11-30 07:04

Hard to say if neo or f0rest is the best. Neo was carrying his teammates for long time, f0rest played with stars.

2014-11-30 13:38

NICE!!

2014-11-30 01:19

Like a surgeon!

2014-11-30 01:22

f0rest-dA-k1nG <3

2014-11-30 01:23

F0rest! F0rest! F0rest! F0rest! u da real mvp!

2014-11-30 01:24

Aimbot for sure <3

2014-11-30 01:25

"And it's all headshots" -Anders @colonge Friberg vs C9 dd2

2014-11-30 01:27

2 replies

aah memories <3

2014-11-30 16:52

"And he does it again and again and again" cobblestone

2014-12-01 12:17

This is some old-school forest right there ;)

2014-11-30 01:28

so good on that posistion

2014-11-30 01:28

f0rp <3

2014-11-30 01:29

Best action of DH imo

2014-11-30 01:29

only hs <3

2014-11-30 01:30

best cs player of all time

2014-11-30 01:31

god

2014-11-30 01:37

Such a clean round by Forest, crazy player

2014-11-30 01:38

i jizzed myself when he did it

2014-11-30 01:40

f0rest's plays give me a boner

2014-11-30 01:49

i have to watch 3rd times this clip to seee the frags....wtf :)

2014-11-30 01:53

make a vid with forest pistol round ct overpass plz

2014-11-30 02:38

f0rest MVP imo !

2014-11-30 04:41

sick!

2014-11-30 04:49

SICK wOw

2014-11-30 07:18

I really didn't see that coming !!!

2014-11-30 07:22

Sickest clip i've ever seen in csgo

2014-11-30 07:24

f0rest-dA-MvP

2014-11-30 07:38

MVP

2014-11-30 07:40

This is so sexy im falling off my chair

2014-11-30 09:41

this was aaawesome best aimer atm?

2014-11-30 10:18

Great highlight

2014-11-30 11:14

f0rest and NiP have won a new fan after their performances at DHW!

2014-11-30 11:26

really would like to see the scene highlighted in which f0rest just does what f0rest does best and one of the casters screams "unreaaaaaal". gave me goosebumps.

2014-11-30 12:04

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i think it was the ct-pistol on overpass. but not sure... please highlight that.

2014-11-30 12:07

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