zonic's zoom: Gaming Advanced

You guys voted for Communication this week, and I’ve been taking a good look at how I can help you.

I’m going to tell you guys about how we communicate in mTw.

We have a rule in mTw which is:

DEAD -> SHORT PRECISE INFO -> WHINE -> SCHH

Many of you guys probably think; why on earth is he writing "Whine" in the rule.

It's a simple answer, I'm not saying he should whine in like 25 minutes, but we had a sports-psychiatrist on the team back in 2007, and he was studying psychology in sports, and we tried to use his skills on us. Anyways, bottom of line is, that he actually meant whining were good for a player, not that you should scream in Ventrilo so it became even worse for a team, but just get his frustration out in the air. It would somehow "restart" his brain for the next round, but he had to work with it aswell.

Short precise info is probably the most important thing, we in mTw calls different things on the map for either numbers or short words, so it’s easy to pronounce or just makes the sentences shorter when a guy dies. A problem people have on de_nuke is the vents from Upper site to Lower site.

People call them "Left vent or Right vent" in Denmark, but what if you are on the different side from what the guy who is giving the info is. Then his left vent is your right vent, and it can cause a lot of problems.

Example

Split b1 - Terrorist

1 guy in yellow/hut is spotting a guy at the vent near the door, and he is screaming "1 guy at the right vent!!!"
Then 2-3 guys coming from main/gate (outside yard) into b1 and the guy on Ventrilo is saying "1 guy at the right vent!!!" The 3 guys are rushing into b1 looking at the vent near CT spawn.

In mTw we have made it simple:

The vent near the door = 2
The vent near CT spawn = 1


Another great thing in communication is to use your teammate’s names, for example if Sunde is covering popdog in yard on train and they smoke him and he can't cover the connection/link – (The link between b1/b2). Then instead of saying "I don’t have link" or "hey can go link" – then he says "Danny, watch out for link".

He highlights me, because if I'm 100% focused on b2 because Muhamed heard someone in there, and there is a lot of noise, then I won't hear what they are talking about in b1, unless they call my name. It's important you highlight your teammate’s names.

So if I need to summaries some great rules to get you starting in your team it goes like this:

1) Short precise info
2) Name different spots, but make them short like "ave spot" instead of "the 3 boxes where you can boost"
3) Whine is allowed, but useful whine, it’s allowed to get your anger out, as long as it not harming your team
4) Highlight your teammates names if the info is specified just for them
5) Loud & Clear
6) Highlight important info like if they are rushing ramp, then speak a lot louder than if you only were seeing 1 guy towards ramp.


I could write tons of things you could use in Communication, but I’ve decided to write down the important things, on the other hand you can ask questions in the news and I will answer as many as I can.
So state your problem in your clan, and I'll try to give you guys a solution.

#1
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Germany BackY
Thank you mate :))) no question for now :D
2008-04-24 00:15
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#2
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Lithuania kpc
Ghm,if 2 teammate’s with same name? o_O haha The vent near the door = 1, the vent near CT spawn = 2 :bbb
2008-04-24 00:17
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#3
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Switzerland bRk^
i got a question. Do you think it's important to say where the enemy is when you are fighting with him? Or just say when you die or don't fight anymore with him. probably becaue of push to talk at the voice. i hope you know what i mean
2008-04-24 00:18
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#9
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France MagmatiCz
i agree with your question, i need the answer too ;p
2008-04-24 11:10
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#12
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Denmark zonic
Yeah I do, well I don't use push to talk on Ventrilo, so for me it's no problem. But yes, if you believe it would be much harder if you have to say where he is while you are shooting at him, then don't say anything and wait until he is dead. But if you can talk while shooting, do that :)
2008-04-24 12:53
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#16
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Faroe Islands s1carius
So they can hear you breathing? that's kinda creepy. :o
2008-04-24 15:18
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#23
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Russia imsohigh
awesome, thank you so much =)
2008-04-24 17:41
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#36
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Austria Scyrox
there is a sensitivity setting in ventrilo, so it won't react to just breathing
2008-04-25 14:10
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#4
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Estonia NOSSUftw
n1ce topic by zonic once again ... My question : If for example its a slow attack and youre CT and your on the ramp with someone from your team and both teams have guns... terrorists throw nades and stuff and you both get lots of damage (20 hp or so left) BUT terrorists don't come to ramp and you just yelled in ventrilo :"Ramp,Nades!!" and your other guys from the team are running towards the ramp to help but the Terrorists go From the yellow at the same time. So finally... how to avoid this kind of situations? Do I have to train the team so they dont run and help us? Or like allways wait before your pretty sure that their gonna go Ramp and then call for backup...which takes time and the team might be too late or something ... I am sorry if my english is not understandable :) . btw GG vs "playzone"
2008-04-24 00:43
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#13
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Denmark zonic
Well, i see your point :D We have 5-6 CT setups at B1, and every tactic is trained with if they go ramp, who is giving backup from b1, who is staying if it's a fake. I for instance is always staying b1 even if 3-4 guys is out ramp. At your example, i would probably put 1 of the guys at ramp who is low, just spotting if they are coming towards ramp, the other guy who is low could go b2 and be ready to boost the guy who is spotting on ramp. If they come ramp, the guy goes to b2 and get boosted on the rocket from his teammate down in b2, then you are almost 100% secure to get atleast 1-2 guys
2008-04-24 12:57
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#31
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Albania aLien -.-
Agree !!!
2008-04-24 23:03
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#5
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Greece saviour
good job. nice topic.
2008-04-24 03:12
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#6
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Germany Wii
agree with #5
2008-04-24 07:20
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#7
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Finland bruft
Looking froward to that standard tactic that i've requested next week. Btw good job on this one
2008-04-24 09:35
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#8
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Faroe Islands s1carius
Question: I thought Sunde had xray cat eyes and immortal bad ass power. How can't he hold the link?! Agree on that name calling thing, people normally don't respond unless you give them a bumb on the noggin by yelling their real names.
2008-04-24 10:20
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#10
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Germany M1n1M3
ahahahaha it was just an example for sure can Sunde hold the link >)
2008-04-24 11:39
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#38
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Portugal sharpp
LOL xD
2008-04-26 15:10
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#11
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Croatia m0rtus
in my team we call vent that is closer to ct spawn "ct vent" and the other "t vent" Think that is better than numbers but hey, that's just me :D
2008-04-24 11:52
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#14
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Austria Scyrox
always a question of what you are used to.
2008-04-24 13:36
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#15
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Poland mieTK
yet another great tutorial, thanks zonic!
2008-04-24 15:03
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#17
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United Arab Emirates mrcooldude007
Hey Zonic...ssup... I gt a question... i thought u arent supposed to talk or speak to ur team mates aftr u r killed in tourneys.. bt u say to gv out a short but specific location or situation where u died.... Plz explain...
2008-04-24 15:32
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#18
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World DrgnZor
also thought something like that .. ON lan only captain is allowed to speak or something
2008-04-24 16:00
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#19
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Portugal 192000
Well, I'm not entirely sure how it works cuz it's different from tournament to tournament but, after you die there is a ~2 seconds time where you can see the area you died. In that time you can talk to your teammates and say where you died. Hope it helped.
2008-04-24 16:14
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#21
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France NaGasH
You can speak on LAN. Imagine the panic if admins would have to check if one of the 500 playing dudes is not giving information after he is dead ... That would be impossible to handle with. Ghost talking is allowed on LAN.
2008-04-24 16:39
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#24
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Denmark zonic
Well, you are allowed to talk until your screen turns black (fadetoblack)
2008-04-24 19:17
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#43
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Portugal 192000
that's what I said, but in WCG when a flashbug happens and your screen doesn't fade to black, it counts as a 2~3 seconds time when you can speak to you teammates
2008-06-14 20:10
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#20
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World kolon_s
Do you use Ventrillo at LAN? Why? Is it good?
2008-04-24 16:25
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#22
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Denmark Nomad - HLTV.org
Sometimes they do if there is a lot of noise.. :)
2008-04-24 17:31
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#25
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Denmark zonic
Well like Nomad says, if there is a lot of noise we have to use Ventrilo, otherwise we can't communicate :)
2008-04-24 19:31
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#29
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World kolon_s
Do you use it while you are dead ingame? :)
2008-04-24 21:03
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#33
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Russia bS
2008-04-25 06:38
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#26
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Albania MpD#
Its too latee for this topic:S round 7 hours ago i finished my match where i was hoping some tactic for nuke from you could help me but its too late like i said we lost 26-18:S
2008-04-24 20:51
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#27
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Norway inchie
easy like this: went near ctspawn = ct vent the vent near door = t vent same with hallways underground. mixing numbers into all these names makes it confusing :D
2008-04-24 20:52
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#34
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Denmark zonic
not if you get used to it :P
2008-04-25 13:44
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#35
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Austria Scyrox
that's what I said @ #14 btw how about some tactic again for next week some CT side setups maybe btw gg vs Gravitas
2008-04-25 13:53
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#28
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India Fzr
err........i didn't get that last bit.....wats a Ventrilo ???? also do u use the push to talk feature 2 communicate in-game? or do u just shout out loud on LAN ?
2008-04-24 20:55
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#30
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Denmark Danny D3
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventrilo
2008-04-24 22:01
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#32
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North Macedonia vilmkd
Ventrillo = TeamSpeak
2008-04-25 02:44
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#41
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Portugal tuga_soul
This ca help a lot ! Thank you very much broo ... :p
2008-04-29 12:36
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#42
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Denmark teth
Great initiative zonic :) And I like the way your explaining things, not taking anything for granted and take a situation into perspective so each person is getting the hang of the point... Keep it up champ :)
2008-05-04 22:21
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