Cobblestone undergoes major tweaks

5-2-2015 04:37

Valve have made big changes to de_cbble in a recent update.

The map has been a central point of discussion lately, particularly around the map's perceived one-sidedness, and this update reflects Valve's attempt to give the map an overhaul.

For weeks the community has tried to convince Valve to drop the current de_cbble and instead bring in maps like de_season or de_tuscan. Valve have responded by giving cobblestone a complete makeover, thus keeping it in the competitive map pool.

Various other changes in today's update included fixing perceived sound issues as well as other small fine tunings.

MISC

Reduced latency of voice audio.

Community servers now can show viewer counts when players are streaming their match.

Fixed regression in Deathmatch Bonus mission evaluation.

Fixed a Deathmatch exploit where players could maliciously cause the server to run out of entities.

Fixed buymenu's Accurate Range weapon stats being computed incorrectly.

Fixed AWP viewmodel rendering when zoomed.

Added flavor text to Arms Deal Case 1 and fixed typos in previous flavor text.

Positional sounds spatialize to within 15 inches of the player and no longer "spread" to stereo when nearby.

MAPS

Major changes to Cobblestone

Bombsite A:

Made bombsite A courtyard smaller

Removed spiral stairs at back of bombsite A

Pushed forward side-balcony at bombsite A, making it easier to check corners before jumping down

Added a static door to entrance to connector from bombsite A

Shortened battlement in long A, making it easier to check

Raised wall around bombsite A slightly, to give some cover when out in the open

Added additional cover in bombsite A

Removed balcony at CT side of long A

Added an additional chest-height wall at A ramp

Removed large boulders in A site

Bombsite B:

Made bombsite B courtyard smaller

Rerouted T main entrance to bombsite B

Made it easier to throw grenades into B site from a safe position as T

Added some cover on T platform in bombsite B

Moved bombsite B more to the middle of the courtyard

Flattened ground at bombsite B

Removed back of B area

Hut at back of B can now be shot through

Added a static door to entrance to bombsite B from connector

Other:

Removed stairs and overpass route from dropdown room

Widened upper dropdown passage

Added a ramp to dropdown to make it easier to peek into lower

Players can now jump up via flowerbed in connector to get into dropdown room

Removed walls in T tunnels

Removed CT sniper room

Added a static door to CT side of water room

Tweaked layout of water room slightly

Removed double window room near T spawn

Moved T spawns forward a bit

Added a direct ladder to T sniper tower

Various optimizations

Increased player visibility

Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned

[MISC]

Reduced latency of voice audio.

Community servers now can show viewer counts when players are streaming their match.

Fixed regression in Deathmatch Bonus mission evaluation.

Fixed a Deathmatch exploit where players could maliciously cause the server to run out of entities.

Fixed buymenu's Accurate Range weapon stats being computed incorrectly.

Fixed AWP viewmodel rendering when zoomed.

Added flavor text to Arms Deal Case 1 and fixed typos in previous flavor text.

Positional sounds spatialize to within 15 inches of the player and no longer "spread" to stereo when nearby.

[MAPS]

Major changes to Cobblestone

[Bombsite A]

Made bombsite A courtyard smaller

Removed spiral stairs at back of bombsite A

Pushed forward side-balcony at bombsite A, making it easier to check corners before jumping down

Added a static door to entrance to connector from bombsite A

Shortened battlement in long A, making it easier to check

Raised wall around bombsite A slightly, to give some cover when out in the open

Added additional cover in bombsite A

Removed balcony at CT side of long A

Added an additional chest-height wall at A ramp

Removed large boulders in A site

[Bombsite B]

Made bombsite B courtyard smaller

Rerouted T main entrance to bombsite B

Made it easier to throw grenades into B site from a safe position as T

Added some cover on T platform in bombsite B

Moved bombsite B more to the middle of the courtyard

Flattened ground at bombsite B

Removed back of B area

Hut at back of B can now be shot through

Added a static door to entrance to bombsite B from connector

[Other]

Removed stairs and overpass route from dropdown room

Widened upper dropdown passage

Added a ramp to dropdown to make it easier to peek into lower

Players can now jump up via flowerbed in connector to get into dropdown room

Removed walls in T tunnels

Removed CT sniper room

Added a static door to CT side of water room

Tweaked layout of water room slightly

Removed double window room near T spawn

Moved T spawns forward a bit

Added a direct ladder to T sniper tower

Various optimizations

Increased player visibility

Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned

It remains to be seen if these changes will impact the statistics of cobblestone's usage in tournaments.

about time

2015-02-05 04:38

3 replies

FIX FUC*** MATCHMAKING, WHY SO MANY NOOBS IN HIGH RANKS? WHY YOU ALWAYS PLAY 4v5 JUST BECAUSE AT LEAST 1 GUY WILL BE FULLY RETARDED, IS IT FAIR, VALVE?

2015-02-05 15:44

2 replies

2015-02-05 17:20

opponent gets a retard too. Don't cry. As for me, i am absoloutly fine with my teammates at SMFC (maybe i am low for them xD)

2015-02-06 20:25

-cobble +season

27 replies

-cobble +cso map

2015-02-05 05:05

7 replies

-cbl +tuscan

2015-02-05 05:26

6 replies

2015-02-05 09:29

2015-02-05 10:56

Tuscan ONELOVE. Played it in workshop once, was laggy as shit....Actually they have just optimize it a bit and change textures. Vouala. Map is ready

2015-02-05 11:10

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2015-02-06 22:30

imgur.com/a/Ce9F9 new cobble screenshots

2015-02-05 06:51

17 replies

nice wrk m8

2015-02-05 07:14

Thx

2015-02-05 07:26

thx

2015-02-05 07:56

2015-02-05 08:15

have no idea what im looking at

2015-02-05 08:52

ty for sharing

2015-02-05 08:55

2015-02-05 09:39

2015-02-05 09:44

What's your resolution and crosshair settings? Looks so great <3 thanks in advance

2015-02-05 09:46

I use 1280x960 stretched. crosshairsize 3 gap 1 colour green thickness 1 (i think) crosshair outline 1 and style 4 (not at home atm so can't confirm)

2015-02-05 11:32

1 reply

Thank you very much once again <3

2015-02-05 14:40

ty!

2015-02-05 10:01

2015-02-05 10:28

A useful post on hltv? Thx man!

2015-02-05 11:05

My screenshots! Stealing my Karma ya bastard.

2015-02-05 11:33

sry man :D u did great job, credits to this guy

2015-02-05 14:43

thx !

2015-02-05 12:35

-cobble +net code fix

now nip cant win major

You're an idiot

2015-02-05 04:44

2015-02-05 04:55

-Cobblestone +tuscan

2015-02-05 04:39

5 replies

well tuscan is still brutes property so if he doesn't get his shit together that will not happen :( and the map beta in the workshop is honestly not much better than cbble

2015-02-05 09:07

the layout of tuscan is not brutes property he didnt even design it

2015-02-05 11:47

I heard toscan is pretty good But of course brute doesnt let his ripoff to be ripped off lol

2015-02-05 13:43

With csgo smokes and molotovs Tuscan might not be that T sided either I guess. But just a guess.

2015-02-05 10:39

the tuscan i played in cevo league was fucking garbage THAT map needs a major overhaul de_tuscan_b5 - sucks

2015-02-05 18:04

This is shit, updating it means Volvo are reluctant to remove it, which is what that should be doing

2015-02-05 04:40

25 replies

Why should they? Remember before Cobble and Overpass the only map played at the big tournaments where inferno, inferno and inferno. now teams need to veto cobble making it so we can watch more nuke, mirage, casch etc.

2015-02-05 05:58

24 replies

Because we have de_season and de_bazaar, both of those are 100x better than Cobble. It's been shit since CS was released, it was shit at the first majors and it's still shit.

2015-02-05 06:41

23 replies

thats opinion no facts. many play cbble on mm and valve cares about all players, not only 1% top players, like it or not but thats how it is...

2015-02-05 07:22

19 replies

I don't know anyone in the competitive scene that likes it. That is fact. From open level players to top players that attend majors, I don't know anyone that likes it. Fact is that it's fucking shit and always has been

2015-02-05 07:42

14 replies

Actually CopenhagenWolves play Cobble, Itt is one of their best maps.'

2015-02-05 07:53

A team having it as one of their best maps that no one plays doesn't have anything to do with this conversation.

2015-02-05 08:18

4 replies

I quote "I don't know anyone in the competetive scene that likess it".

2015-02-11 12:25

Not relevant to this at all, my old team was good at Inferno but that doesn't mean we liked to play it

2015-02-11 12:34

Why would anyone play something they dislike, that is like drinking vodka just to say they did it.

2015-02-14 00:59

If you want to take CS seriously, you need to be good at all of the maps. Of course you can VETO maps out but there'll always be times you're forced to play them.

2015-02-14 01:19

i also like it.. your world is small

2015-02-05 08:05

You're the first person I've ever heard of liking it, congratulations

2015-02-05 08:19

Still didn't provide us any facts :) Facts would link to statements from top players. Gl hf

2015-02-05 08:14

You're a moron... Or silver

2015-02-05 08:20

Global Elite. So i quess I'm a moron :D But nice try smart guy!

Well you don't know the difference between a G and a Q so I guess so?

2015-02-05 12:11

It wasn't a good map, sure. Now that huge changes have been made, you should stop being angry at it and observe how it plays before jumping to conclusions. Saying "it's shit" before any game has been played on it is premature and makes you lose credibility.

2015-02-05 09:21

That doesn't mean they can't change it to be good. Forge was good.

2015-02-05 14:16

People on mm plays what valve wants them to play. End of story. Add de_fistfuck to active duty mappool and people will play it and praise it. No matter how much your ass bleeds when you start the map.

2015-02-05 09:22

jeez just deal with it, cbble is here to stay and doesnt matter how much u whine or hate it, just don't play it if u don't like it. if you are a pro then veto it, simple..

2015-02-05 11:24

You're failing to realize the point. There's 2 maps that are 100x better that are completely viable for competitive play yet they just ignore them. Bazaar being one and the other is Season which is tried and tested instead of consistently fucking with Cobble

2015-02-05 23:54

true

2015-02-05 12:36

de_season? de_bazaar? Both are shitty and boring maps. As long as I can understand that for some de_season can appear as potential tournament map, I cant understand how anyone could say good words about de_bazaar - it is one of the worst maps in last update :O Cbble at least have history in cs and is worth efforts to save it.

2015-02-05 09:13

Have you played bazaar? Not just in one MM either, in a couple of games. They layout has CS written all over it, there's a lot of wallbangs, the skyboxes are great for smokes but you can easily enough split and pick. It is a hybrid of dust2 and Inferno, it's a great map

2015-02-05 09:17

K, I got Your point. In fact my first impression of this map was terrible and didnt change a bit, but wallbanging at bazaar is indeed a lot better than on other maps.

2015-02-05 09:24

¡WE WANT TUSCAN!

Use "I".

2015-02-05 05:03

2015-02-05 11:57

who plays cobble anyways haha

I miss de_dusk :P also 747

2015-02-05 07:47

But de_dust exists

2015-02-05 12:12

de_dusK not dust :)

2015-02-06 07:24

LOL my bad anyway cuz I realize now I meant de_storm :P sry

2015-02-06 07:28

Np m8 :)

2015-02-06 07:32

Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned. WOW

2015-02-05 04:41

That's because kfc fried more chickens

2015-02-05 05:06

Next update: Added boiler to chicken pen on B site cobblestone

2015-02-05 07:41

Thank god. I was about to quit on that game breaking bug

2015-02-05 09:45

Still -cobble +season

+9999999

2015-02-05 05:43

season = shit

2015-02-05 06:49

still a bad map

2015-02-05 04:43

Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned Chicken HYPE!!!!!

Chicken top priority

2015-02-05 05:02

No Matter what they do. I don't think anyone will be playing it. Instead, make Season, and Tuscan a competitive map, like all good times CSS, & 1.6.

cbble sucks horse dick

2015-02-05 04:45

I really like the changes they made at B.

2015-02-05 04:46

This gonna be gud.

2015-02-05 04:47

rip cobblestone:)

- Cbble + Tuscan

2015-02-05 04:48

Sound is still bugged and has a strange sound effect in certain situations :/ Oh and Cbble is very T-sided now!

2015-02-05 04:49

That's a bad thing?

2015-02-05 05:41

Valve have to make it fair to both side(t and ct), by doing so, they have to switch it up a bit to very t-sided map. LOLOLOLOLOL

back tuscan

2015-02-05 04:57

Gonna be honest, Cobble is actually decent now. This should be it's last chance though, if it turns out to be shit in the long run just replace it.

2015-02-05 04:58

tuscan <3 cobblestone is crap

2015-02-05 05:01

this version of cobble looks like it's going to be a complete clusterfuck

2015-02-05 05:04

My question to Valve is: What does this car even do? gyazo.com/76520b4e7045fee4ef58c7be7a02b3.. Why is there chickens running around on the map, why are there flower pots in the middle of nowhere? Why all these stupid fucking props that makes no sense appear on every map so far in CSGO except dust 2.. gyazo.com/15dd09692aa8fa501e5c588a03747d.. gyazo.com/cead7017725c6387b57568d928c728..

2015-02-05 05:21

The car give u a clue that CT drive there instead of walk there...LMAO

2015-02-05 05:53

This, it's important to know that.

I remember in beta 5 or 6 they made it so that you could drive the APC on one of the maps... It was a disaster :D

2015-02-05 09:56

It wacs_siege where cts had the car, which later on got removed around 1.3 :-D

2015-02-05 10:52

Was cs_siege*

2015-02-05 10:54

Yeah that's the one :) i remember cts using the tank as mobile cover, ww1 style, except that you couldn't drive the damn thing without having your head sticking out so the driver usually didn't last long :D

2015-02-05 11:23

A ramp also looks like a choke point and easier to control as ct? Fuck valve. Instead of nerfing P90 and Tec9, improving the fucked up movement, they go full retard as always.

2015-02-05 05:54

Valve, Please stop trying to polish shit. Just replace cobble with season. Thank you

never gonna give it up

Never gonna let it down

2015-02-05 09:47

Never gonna run around and desert it

2015-02-05 10:03

Never gonna make it change Never gonna say "Cobble, hi"! Never gonna veto map and play it! ___________ Just some shitty rhymes, don't make a poet of me, or smth like that

2015-02-05 15:31

"For weeks the community has tried to convince Valve to drop the current de_cobblestone and instead bring in maps like de_season or de_tuscan. Instead, they responded by giving de_cobblestone a complete makeover, thus keeping it in the competitive map-pool." and all the fangays thought they could get swag unbanned. Your opinions are worth about as much as a vanguard case.

2015-02-05 05:22

ahahaahahahahahaha +1

2015-02-05 05:36

+9001

2015-02-05 11:21

volvo cares about chickens <3

2015-02-05 05:37

i arent think that

Still shit. +season

still steel steal

2015-02-05 05:44

volvo pls what are you doing STAHP Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned

2015-02-05 05:50

R.I.P

2015-02-05 06:07

Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned Volvo: I don't give a flying fuck of what you guys have complained. This is my game so welcome to my troll HAHAHA

2015-02-05 06:08

NO TOILET BOOTH???

nip`s tears

2015-02-05 06:13

volvo pls. we don't want ur cubblestone ffs. we want cpl_mill or season or train to map pool !!!1 GabeN plz

2015-02-05 06:17

Voice latency fix.. finally.

2015-02-05 06:25

and together with "Positional sounds" fix, could it be, I can turn up my volume again ? :P

2015-02-05 17:00

This means we'll DEFINITELY have cbblestone at katowice

2015-02-05 06:40

it really seems that they will never let cbble go... they will rather remake it twenty times over

You can't polish a turd. I don't know why they just don't introduce de_season or even de_bazaar, that map is sick and really well thought out.

2015-02-05 06:42

atleast something good Fixed AWP viewmodel rendering when zoomed. :D

2015-02-05 06:48

-cobble +de_rats

2015-02-05 07:01

-cobble +old train or tuscan

2015-02-05 07:06

Hey, dumbells, check this stats out: blog.counter-strike.net/ Cbble seems pretty balanced to me.

2015-02-05 07:13

The stats were taken from the top level players. I guess it includes higher mm level games too. Stats doesn't give you a perfect picture if you are not considering the reasults where two actual teams are playing. I am sure that stats will be a bit different than what we can see here.

2015-02-05 08:36

stats are only taken from high level mm games

2015-02-05 10:31

1st map to drop = cobblestone

-De_cbble +Fy_poolday Volvo plis

2015-02-05 07:18

+ cs_mansion!

2015-02-05 07:52

best times

2015-02-05 09:01

Smearing around poop with a stick will not make it stink less. Pleasevolvo just remove this shit map.

+1 You can't polish a turd. It's been shit since CS existed and it'll never be good, no matter what you do to it. I have no idea why they keep trying to force it on us when we have Season and Bazaar as perfectly good maps just sitting there

2015-02-05 07:43

quite good changes, well we'll have to see, but now the rotation time for ct's is shorter

2015-02-05 07:51

True, i dont think they accounted for that :)

2015-02-05 09:26

where's tuscan？

The changes are an improvement, but there are still some major problems with the map. - Get rid of the little window allowing Ts access to the space between A and B. - Get rid of the big block in the middle of B blocking the CT view from doors to the main B entrance. - Remove at least half of the new wall turning the main path to B into a giant hallway. Ts can get to within 10 meters of the bombsite before getting shot at for christ's sake.

2015-02-05 08:00

Exactly my thoughts( although I am yet to see the map). It always seemed that it is impossible for the ts to enter B, and it is only possible if the cts make a mistake. And if ts gets bombsite b, it is even harder for the cts to retake it. In a nutshell, mis area needed rework for safer rotation for both ts and cts. Hope that safe nade room changes fixes it.

are you dumb? then its the discussion of "omfg too ct sided volvo do smth" all over again

That little window makes it easier for terrorists to fake and execute tactics. But yea, they should make the big block in the middle B smaller.

2015-02-05 09:25

I prefer it the way it is, it's more T sided that way which is great for a change

2015-02-05 10:29

fuck this map this is the most important uptade: "-Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned"

2015-02-05 08:10

This map is not played very often so I don't really care about this update.

still shit maybe worst now... -cbble + tuscan

2015-02-05 08:26

google.gr/search?q=de_cbble+cs+1.6&espv=.. bbthxbye

2015-02-05 08:27

bye bye thx bye k den

2015-02-05 09:09

That map was so CT sided that it made no sense. We dont want that map back, even if it had good textures.

The major changes should make it to Cobblestone II like Dust and Dust II

2015-02-05 08:29

They didnt fix that de_nuke pixelwalk from catwalk and silos? :/

they did, i just tried it, it didnt work on reddit also someone said they fixed it

2015-02-05 18:21

de_crown pls

2015-02-05 08:30

cobble > cobble confirmed

2015-02-05 08:31

when servers in china, korea and japan?

2015-02-05 08:35

+1 china servers plz

2015-02-05 10:46

Season > Tuscan > Bazaar > Bagra > Gwalior > Overpass > CBBLE Such an utter shit map. They even needed to make map selection random to get anyone to play it. We don't want your stupid shit maps, Volvo. And get rid of the chickens already.

2015-02-05 08:37

+1 And ye kill of the fucking chickens. I would want to hear valve say why they implemented these fucking chickens in the first place and why thy have Not been removef yet.

2015-02-05 09:08

NiP sucks at the map, gets tweaked..

2015-02-05 08:51

When commentators start wishing on a live stream that the third map ISNT cobble (in a bo3 match).. Thats when you know cobble has to be changed.

2015-02-05 09:23

WE WANT TUSCAN YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2015-02-05 08:56

If Valve still wants to keep CBBLE thats fine as long as they make the map interesting, which I think the new update has potential to do, at least partly. I have yet to play the new version but at first glance it seems to be the most T-sided map in the game - which is preferable (in the bigger picture) since the competetive gaming is so ct-sided.

For how long have they been working on a de_tuscan remake now?

Give us tuscan ffs. These greedy bastards just want cbble bcz its their own shitmap.

2015-02-05 09:05

I think cobble look and feel much better now, wp Volvo

2015-02-05 11:44

... pointless cobble was never often played competetively (yes we all remember cpl) , truth is that teams just didnt play that much not in 1.6 not in source this map fixing is pointless , still doesnt change that much how the map works - which is why its not favorite all we need to get better map pool is to get tuscan

with this changes, it works in other ways. now you can keep cts where u want them. just use your imaginations. they have long ways to go and dont see so much.

"Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned" ABOUT THIS VALVE; OMG

now it is shits

De_train plz come back like 1.6

2015-02-05 09:55

RIP Copenhagen Wolves

i.imgur.com/RhhOPOm.jpg i.imgur.com/MFJhX3H.jpg i.imgur.com/upO5dbQ.jpg i.imgur.com/qpa35VE.jpg

2015-02-05 10:15

fnatic will pay you if you remove these... :D

2015-02-05 16:16

-cobble + bazaar

2015-02-05 10:17

colle best comp map nice

Someone got an overview pic of the map?

2015-02-05 10:59

Fucki this train-season-overpass-cobble.

"Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned" youtube.com/watch?v=hYJIAHpDRMs rip

2015-02-05 11:03

- de_cbble + 32_aztecworld And btw, chickens help gameplay. More there are better it is.

2015-02-05 11:12

"Fixed a bug where very few chickens were spawned" For this reason alone I will now queue up cobblestone.

2015-02-05 11:22

Bring back the old cbble!!! (from 1.6) :D

2015-02-05 11:26

I don't really know what is your problem guys. I've just walked through whole map and IMO all the changes should improve this map alot. They've managed to make a pretty decent map from completely shit one - that's something. :D

2015-02-05 11:37

Too late for edit: maybe except that police car on A. Like wtf.

2015-02-05 11:53

Actually it removes the possibilities to have multiples angles from the back of A side, like with AWP you watched long and ramp, pick one and wait for your teammates. Now you definitely can't and that's interesting.

2015-02-05 14:42

For me the main problem with that car is its shape and size. I'd much rather have there something smaller with even edges which can prevent pixelsize spots, mostly for AWPers. Those trucks already ruined (at least from my point of view) great concept of reworked A-site on Overpass and I'm worried they will do the same here.

2015-02-05 15:28

I can agree with that. But in the theme of the map, I think it would be weird to have boxes or a fountain in the middle of the spawn. But yeah they could have found better.

2015-02-05 17:22

bring exact source cabble or drop it to tuscan. this map just dont feeeel right.

2015-02-05 11:38

jesus just drop this fckin map and fix more important things. like that stupid super spot on spray instant crouch.

2015-02-05 12:10

chickens the most important imo

2015-02-05 12:27

Tuscan !

2015-02-05 12:28

omfg this is maybe the worst update ever

2015-02-05 12:29

Omg chicken spawn increased, yes!

2015-02-05 12:53

TUSCAN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2015-02-05 12:58

Just delete the map

2015-02-05 13:03

to be honest...it was better before...

2015-02-05 13:05

Season = utter crap Cbble = decent map Tuscan = Still in final beta

2015-02-05 13:10

When is Valve gonna update a real ct-sided map that causes cancer? *krhm* nuke

2015-02-05 13:17

fucking chickens

2015-02-05 13:22

Holy shiat. First time in my life a might actually give this piece of crap a chance. I dont like the basic set up of the map , but as it looks now it could actually be interseting to see how it plays out. gj valve

2015-02-05 13:36

Why does it seem like this map is looking less and less like cbble? Also you can plant bomb at B on top of flower pots to conceal it...

Hard to believe the game devs can breathe with their heads so far up their own asses

What's wrong with de_train? Back in the day, it was always in the map pools.

2015-02-05 13:46

still sucks...

gj gaben

2015-02-05 13:47

much better now, great update

2015-02-05 13:48

Remove CBBLE pls!!

2015-02-05 13:49

fix hitboxes!!!

2015-02-05 13:57

wowwwwwwwwww!! amazing changes!!

2015-02-05 14:04

They basically remodeled a whole map and the only thing the average HLTV user focus on is chickens? And yet you wonder why Valve doesn't listen to the community? This is just beyond me. On topic, cbble actually seems playable now. I at least like the changes and look forward to seeing this being played and play it myself.

ye the map looks playable now, but im still not sure about that car on A, like wtf?

2015-02-05 14:13

What about it?

whats the point of having a huge car in that position ?

2015-02-05 14:49

so the cts actually can do something if they wanna pass into the open to the spot smartass. Normally you dont last long .

2015-02-05 17:30

Pretty much the same as every other box/car or whatever in the game.

2015-02-05 19:48

There's only one solution to this situation... remake de_prodigy >:)

2015-02-05 14:10

A lot of good changes on cbble. Removed a lot of unnecessary angles, corners and camp spots. I think gameplay should now be better on it, but I somehow don't like that huge Long Hall to B.

2015-02-05 14:12

-cbble +season

2015-02-05 14:24

Many people here seem to hate cbble, but I really like playing it with friends on mm

2015-02-05 14:39

NiP cryboys are satisfied now I guess.

-cobblestone +tuscan

olofstone

It'll take time to learn the nuances of the new Cobblestone, but the changes look good. In my opinion, they make it more competitive and a bit closer-combat.

2015-02-05 14:58

the water in water room still absorbs HE damage, so you can basically stand in the water and if a nade falls inside it you won't get any damage. idk if it should be that way, but it's kinda OP.

2015-02-05 15:04

The map looks so much better now,but i still think it should be removed and +season (even tho i hate the new Season) -Cobblestone or +train -cobblestone

2015-02-05 15:06

its still bad

i fucking loved cobble.. no idea why others didnt.. but NOW.. it looks terrible.. or 'even' worse for everyone else

2015-02-05 15:39

Please just get rid of cbble and bring back old train into the map pool.

2015-02-05 15:41

The new cobble is actually fun to play. No idea how it will play out in the pro matches tho

2015-02-05 15:43

Very nice! AySoDoHo approves!

Unfortunately, such teams as CPH Wolves and ESC are fkd up with that update:they played de_cbble very well, but now they don't probably stand a chance. At least for a few weeks until they prepare it to be played.

2015-02-05 15:45

I like the feel of new cobble, have not had time to try it in comp though. I think it's a kinda good map, and should stay in cs. But i think that it shouls not be in the active duty group aka. the competetive map pool. -cobble +train or season. Or maybe +tuscan when(if) it comes out.

2015-02-05 15:46

2015-02-05 16:26

I hope that sound issue is means that some issues were fixed since the sounds at times are horrible. So many times it has occurred that I though someone was coming from front of me and then they are on my back which is BS! That should never happen.

2015-02-05 16:34

even more CT sided after the update!

2015-02-05 17:24

but the map is really shit and worst from maplist. waiting to see new version on stream in real match

2015-02-05 17:47

CPLMILL / TUSCAN Why are not valve adding this ? Stop creating sh*t maps and give us the good map we ALL want !!!!

2015-02-05 17:54

dude, Valve knows better When cbblestone and overpass was added, everyone hated them and said "we don't more maps than d2,inf,nuke,train" now everyone loves cbble and overpass Samething with skins, first everyone hated them, now 90% love them. Trust Valve, trust higher power !

2015-02-05 18:31