Cloud9 weigh up Europe move

2-3-2015 23:31

Cloud9 member Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert has revealed that his team is considering the possibility of moving to Europe.

Since signing for Cloud9, in August, the former compLexity team's results have been mixed, with a top-eight finish at ESL One Cologne being followed by a group exit at DreamHack Winter.

The North American team managed to qualify for ESL One Katowice after beating INSHOCK and mousesports at the offline qualifier, but their chances of progression into the knockout rounds of the upcoming major look thin after being paired with Virtus.pro and Team SoloMid in the group stage.

Cloud9 could move to Europe soon

Prior to DreamHack Winter, Cloud9 underwent an intensive three-week bootcamp in Stockholm to cut out their mistakes from ESWC and FACEIT, but the team could soon take their training regime to a whole new level as a permanent move to Europe is currently under consideration.

"We have some pretty cool news, we might be moving to Europe this year," Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert said during the All Work All Play podcast.

"In the next couple of months we will decide."

Jordan "⁠n0thing⁠" Gilbert went on to say that the city of Berlin is a strong possibility for his team to move to, which would allow them to take part in the biggest European leagues and to practice constantly against the top sides in the continent.

lol

2015-03-02 23:32

10 replies

wat

2015-03-02 23:36

9 replies

magic i guess

2015-03-02 23:37

8 replies

wat are magic

2015-03-02 23:38

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its magic! That would be awesome to see c9 in berlin :D

2015-03-03 02:45

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they would just get more destroyed by european teams i am afraid. They are not even winning in Muricunt so...

2015-03-03 09:19

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That's the whole point. Getting more exposure to better teams.

2015-03-03 15:35

HLTV User's posts since forever. "NA Teams get rolled because they can't practice with Euro teams and learn euro style of play." An NA team might move to Europe to do just that and the response? This will never work, they will get rolled by the big Euro teams.. Holy freaking God. I hate most of you. Edit: Good luck in Europe fellas, this can only make you >.

2015-03-03 17:42

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they accuse americans of being too patriotic or proud people.. granted americans do get overboard... but, the fact is, they themselves are some of the most snobbish and extreme ethnocentric people on the internet.. and the most amazing part is, they show 'patriotism' for their continent, Europe, for the most part whereas americans are just proud of their nation.. internet hypocrisy is truly amazing

2015-03-03 18:08

sry m8, they move to Finland, i hear this from a trust source

2015-03-03 11:40

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Sweden would make more sense although there is already allot there. i think a big thing about moving to Berlin is that its almost in the middle of europe

2015-03-04 14:09

please do that, we know NA only destroys any potential teams have.

2015-03-02 23:32

that would be great

2015-03-02 23:32

first nice read

2015-03-02 23:32

expected

2015-03-02 23:32

6 replies

dat 9th sense

2015-03-02 23:53

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It actually was expected. I've even mentioned that they should move to Sweden a month or so here on HLTV. hltv.org/news/14023-hiko-i-am-a-free-age.. #148

2015-03-03 00:54

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haha good call

2015-03-03 01:08

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I'm the new Thorin

2015-03-03 01:13

Actually i would have thought they'd pick Sweden or Finland as a destination. Not sure what would be easier for them with visas though, i doubt "playing counterstrike" will be recognised as a legit job :(

2015-03-03 02:37

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I'm pretty sure that would be considered a legit job in Sweden. Many casters etc lives in Sweden, Semmler for example moved from US to Sweden for esport reasons. Sweden has really good internet and good infrastructure etc

2015-03-03 02:40

yaaa move to berlin and go to berghain party all night cs all day currywurst all the time

2015-03-02 23:32

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Is that the nightclub?

2015-03-03 00:11

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It's THE nightclub.

2015-03-03 00:21

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Do you think they'd get in?

2015-03-03 00:28

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Well you never know there.

2015-03-03 00:30

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sean and shroud fasho, shahzam and semphis prolly not, nothing maybe

2015-03-03 05:39

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It can really be random, up to the bouncers mind.

2015-03-03 12:38

Don't think it would be such a bad move as there are so many leagues atm so there is money involved!

2015-03-02 23:32

top20 europe

2015-03-02 23:32

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Top1 germany

2015-03-04 14:14

did this almost kill the team last time?

2015-03-02 23:32

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It was a boot camp under less than ideal circumstances, there's a big difference.

2015-03-02 23:43

o_O

2015-03-02 23:32

- Shahzam + Maikelelelelelelelelele

2015-03-02 23:33

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Shahzam out awped Misselele at MLG. I think Shahz is better in my book

2015-03-03 02:16

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Lol do you even watch CSGO? Or are you too busy sucking ShahZam's dick? He's not as godly as you wish him to be. Wake up from the dream you're in.

2015-03-03 17:11

name checks out.

2015-03-04 08:38

Hahaha

2015-03-02 23:33

kStars are actually doing the same thing going to Sweden after Katowice to train a bit, but they wont stay like c9 is trying to do, but gl c9 tho

2015-03-02 23:34

4 replies

Keyd deserves to stay in better scene

2015-03-02 23:42

damn keyd must be a pretty nice org ^^

2015-03-02 23:46

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REAL Snute? :O

2015-03-03 00:07

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Fuck no lol

2015-03-03 00:13

having trouble beating NA teams but want to go EU? sorry c9 ur dumb

2015-03-02 23:33

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they cant play vs eu teams online you dumb fuck,everyone knows eu has the best teams,meanwhile usa sucks D @csgo +/- .

2015-03-02 23:36

muricano, u know nothing. dont compare ur tier5 muricano shit teams to european competition. losing random league matches against some scrubs that never do anything but admire the best NA team and antistrat them means nothing, as long as they qualify for the lan finals anyways, which they have every fuckin time. and then u see em at katowice raping good european teams.

2015-03-02 23:38

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inb4 another gruop exit

2015-03-02 23:40

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yea tru dat, iwas talking abbout the qualifiers. that they can prevail against tsm and vp ( i think) is unlikely.

2015-03-03 00:21

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lol, where is isreali scene? To busy bullying the palestinians i guess.

2015-03-03 00:35

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whats that got to do with things? also i am not israeli, im just an hltv user who chose to wear an israeli flag so that the admins may not ban me as quickly for any racist banter i might post from time to time.

2015-03-03 00:47

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Rofl, best comment I've seen all week

2015-03-03 01:17

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All month, even.

2015-03-03 06:58

i c i c british fake flagger. nice one, british scene still garbage tho.

2015-03-03 02:22

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not british.

2015-03-03 02:38

That's not going to work.

2015-03-03 02:23

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u were not supposed to read that one

2015-03-03 02:31

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Damn, I foiled his plans!

2015-03-03 02:32

well judging from how quickly i got banned for every shit before its been working so far :) its just banter man, why do u guys always ban so quickly...

2015-03-03 02:39

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You claim it's just banter, but there are threads in the exact same time claiming there's too much flaming and bullying going on. Can't have it both ways you know. Not everyone takes your comments with a smile on their faces.

2015-03-03 02:40

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well from reading these forums daily i must say ur kinda missing the central thread if u wanna prevent flaming and bullying xd

2015-03-03 03:13

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Virtually impossible to prevent flaming and bullying, can only lighten the blow with bans and hope that people can grow up on their own accord. Unfortunately, having everyone grow up simultaneously is almost as impossible as my first point.

2015-03-03 03:23

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Hoping people will grow up? That'll take years!

2015-03-03 12:58

maybe its about time to close the forum section and leavy only comments in the news section. either way reddit acts like a cs forum these days.

2015-03-03 15:14

Banned? Maybe because your a douchebag. Stop being a douchebag.

2015-03-03 02:41

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theres so many morons on these forums that at times its getting quite hard not to be a dick towards them.

2015-03-03 03:14

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Kinda true. You can't fix stupid, but you can definitely make fun of it.

2015-03-03 07:00

Oh and bullying dumb people is going to solve the issue, also you must respect the difference of opinion.

2015-03-03 12:26

Damn, we have a trolling mastermind here

2015-03-03 02:41

10/10

2015-03-04 08:48

"where is isreali scene?" IRL. And they're Global Elite at it too. Absolutely based.

2015-03-03 08:38

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palestine t side good. isreal t side and especially ct side too good irl.

2015-03-03 09:13

?? rofl dat logic.. they can easily beat any NA team on lan .. since ithrowpower is no more..they dont even take most online matches seriously unless it threatens their lan spot .. lemme guess you spend most of your time on reddit l3l fedoratipper

2015-03-02 23:57

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clg > c9 right now

2015-03-03 03:55

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no. end of discussion.

2015-03-03 04:49

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yes, actually lol

2015-03-03 05:47

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2015-03-03 12:59

go to EU = practice against EU teams who gives a shit about being best in NA, the actual competition is overseas. they can stay here and what, compete in 5k cevo leagues with bottom feeders like elevate?

2015-03-03 19:44

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When they are struggling at this level, why go to a higher level?

2015-03-04 02:33

expected

2015-03-02 23:34

INB4 OUT IN GROUPS

2015-03-02 23:34

Nice!! GL guys :D

2015-03-02 23:35

move to Stockholm cuz of ping :-D

2015-03-02 23:35

I like it.

2015-03-02 23:35

yeah that worked out so well last time. i think the americans really need their surprise factor to be succesful in european lans.

2015-03-02 23:35

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a boot camp isn't really the same as a living there. 3 weeks is not a lot of time, and it's possible teams will not want to give out strats and not play them with full effort so that they can easily counter them later at the tournament they are obviously all preparing for but if you live there, you have more time-- months and multiple tournaments to really gauge their tactics and skill while still being able to continuously practice against the best teams in the world. they can play all the teams repeatedly in qualifiers and online tournaments for money/spots where teams are less likely to throw for counter strats. i think it could make a big difference i think this will be extremely interesting at least

2015-03-02 23:59

damn enjoy europe

2015-03-02 23:35

well, there will be no more NA jokes about Cloud9 :(

2015-03-02 23:36

Unless they pickup hiko and skadoodle I really don't see the point. They're barely staying on top in NA.

2015-03-02 23:36

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2015-03-03 06:50

living in a gaming-house is a guaranteed way to kill a team. This is such a bad idea.

2015-03-02 23:36

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Yeeeeeeeep. I haven't seen bring any established team any success at all. It might help for a new line up to play at a LAN centre for a bit, but after communication and positions are established, everyone does better either at home or in an actual competitive environment like a proper LAN event.

2015-03-02 23:44

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nip lived together for a while before the first major i believe

2015-03-03 00:23

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And they lost that major and haven't lived together since. While showing up when it at least mattered the most.

2015-03-03 00:25

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They still do.

2015-03-03 00:56

tell that to the best korean sc2 teams / chinese dota 2 teams, you just need someone around to make sure everything is running well and players are doing what they are supposed to do.

2015-03-03 00:05

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To be fair, Korean and Chinese teams tend to be more like farms rather than organizations. The players are seen as interchangeable parts and the results are the only thing that matter. Esports outside of the high level SC2 world is a much more human affair.

2015-03-03 00:25

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totally agree, but my point was that just because you are in a team house it doesnt have to be negative towards the team IF you are willing to work out your differences and have set goals.

2015-03-03 01:06

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and the asian gaming scene is in a way more "passionate" about living off gaming and they´ll pretty much do anything to be a pro. European scene isnt as devoted = gaming houses fail if they live in them 24/7. also that is why we see more bootcamps from here instead of complete living in GH.

2015-03-03 05:21

LoL teams do it aswell.

2015-03-03 02:10

I don't know if you remember, but NaVi started to play in a gaming house and rolled over any team during 1 year !

2015-03-03 10:33

eu > na confirmed??????

2015-03-02 23:36

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should have been confirmed after all EU smashes on majors XD

2015-03-03 00:04

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Fnatic keeping the dream alive. NiP is shit unfortunately.

2015-03-03 01:40

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wouldn't say that, NiP have been more then decent and we all know they wake up on majors. then there is VP and nV that might contest the champion crowning.

2015-03-03 05:18

Reaching finals at every single major. Even winning 1. Totes shit man.

2015-03-03 09:21

YES PLEASE <3

2015-03-02 23:37

inb4 all NA move to europe

2015-03-02 23:37

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And all spanish to NA

2015-03-03 00:00

I do wish some of you would leave. Preferably the men.

2015-03-03 01:41

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What do you mean? Not like there are any Spaniards in America.

2015-03-03 02:20

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Dont take it too serious K A P P A B O Y S

2015-03-03 06:46

Nice!!

2015-03-02 23:38

WHY Thier trash, they will exit in groups while they have shazham and semphis, they have no starts and thier based on thier aim which is pretty bad comared to top 10 european team.

2015-03-02 23:38

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nice english

2015-03-02 23:44

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sorry for writing too fast due to thier stupidity *their *compared *teams

2015-03-02 23:48

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still wrong

2015-03-03 00:01

They're* (they are) Example for each: they're trash because their strats are bad and they will fail over there.

2015-03-03 00:32

I like this idea because that means that Cloud9 will consistently be able to play against top euro teams plus I'll be able to watch more of their matches as they play considerably late (10-11 pm + delays) in the eastern us time zone.

2015-03-02 23:38

if an na teams gets out of groups gonna get a tattoo of a bald eagle.

2015-03-02 23:38

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I'm writing down your name. if it happens I want pics.

2015-03-02 23:45

Bookmark for when it happens :D

2015-03-02 23:47

You got to do it now.

2015-03-03 00:58

Bookmarked, pics if it happens haha

2015-03-03 04:54

top 3 N/A to top 20 EU but glhf

2015-03-02 23:39

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I see what u you did there N/A

2015-03-02 23:43

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;DDDDDDD

2015-03-02 23:45

nice

2015-03-02 23:39

Would be great for the competition in fact. Not much to do for cloud9 in NA while i think in EU they can improve a lot.

2015-03-02 23:39

This IMO is a crazy idea that in reality wouldn't work. As much as I love the C9 guys, I doubt this will happen :(

2015-03-02 23:40

with that lineup...LOL

2015-03-02 23:40

rip NA

2015-03-02 23:41

inb4 Cloud9 best German team ever.

2015-03-02 23:41

C9 now is a EU team! RIP NA csgo!

2015-03-02 23:42

rip NA

2015-03-02 23:42

RumorTV.ORG

2015-03-02 23:42

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"cloud9 weigh up europe move", which is actually what they are doing as stated by one of their members. Behave yourself kiddo

2015-03-03 14:06

rip

2015-03-02 23:43

we soon gonna see HyperX house tour? PogChamp

2015-03-02 23:43

but leave shahzam in NA and sg, and take scream + maikelele

2015-03-02 23:43

come to poland pls :D:DDDD

2015-03-02 23:44

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tbh wouldn't be bad place for them, it would be really cheap to live there for them and its shroud motherland sooo :p but i don't think so cuz they said something about berlin

2015-03-02 23:49

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If they moved to Poland, shroud would probably be able to visit his mother fairly regularly, which is obviously something he can't do in Canada.

2015-03-02 23:54

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His mother lives in Poland xD ?

2015-03-03 00:11

Please choose England or Sweden instead, guys. Germany is only convenient for your sponsors, that's it. I think they would be depressed and feel like shit after a while and disband or move back in Berlin.

2015-03-02 23:44

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Why ? Theres good beer and good german food. And good inet and these things are all they need !

2015-03-03 00:02

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No CS culture, very different culture overall from what they're used to, also a very different language spoken by everyone outside their Gaming house so they won't be able to communicate with some people, thus they won't feel very much at home. They likeliness of 5 Americans being happy in Berlin when they have never lived very far from home before, is very slim imo. Probably have to be German and feeling happy about a good team coming over to think otherwise, or be a bit naive about cultural differences. But hey, they might be much more adaptable than I think. But in the end there's tonnes more advantages from living in Sweden.

2015-03-03 00:13

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Berlin is probably the most international city in europe and one of the best cities for people to go party etc. There's literally no city in europe where 5 young international people will feel better at. They can also reach all the cs events in europe really comfortable, because they're so central there. Also ESL is based in germany. Berlin will also be way more exciting than stockholm or sth, just because it's a way bigger city. A friend stayed in Berlin for a year, couldn't speak a single word of german. It was just like paradise to him, very exciting city, girls, lots of party... cool city, central, esl close = best choice tbh

2015-03-03 12:32

2015-03-02 23:44

and ScreaM getting in.

2015-03-02 23:45

I'm no expert, but I think they should first figure out how to beat NA teams.

2015-03-02 23:45

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they already know how to do that in important matches...

2015-03-02 23:51

They havent even dropped a map to an NA team, at LAN with this roster

2015-03-02 23:52

Indeed you are no expert.

2015-03-03 03:32

It would be nice, close to Szczecin :D

2015-03-02 23:51

plz, c9, live in my house!

2015-03-02 23:56

did the north american players in the famous NoA lineup live in europe or bootcamp repeatedly in EU to practice for tournaments, or where they primarily NA based? is this the first time an NA team has done this?

2015-03-03 00:00

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There is a huge difference, half NoA was Norwegian.

2015-03-03 17:20

that would be cool and they could improve themselves

2015-03-03 00:00

yes, move to europe and be a tier 2-3 team xD c9 wont be a good team as long as they keep both gares and semphis, they truly dont add up to a tier1 team sry (not sry).

2015-03-03 00:00

Honestly, I wouldn't expect to see any difference in their play style. But whatever works for them i guess. Best of luck to them

2015-03-03 00:05

R.I.P. Shroud stream

2015-03-03 00:09

Would be cool

2015-03-03 00:09

nice one

2015-03-03 00:10

Move to EU, -sgares -semphis and add two decent EU players and maybe they'll have a chance.

2015-03-03 00:10

would be great news if it were about Hiko, skadoodle and co., they could easily team up with ScreaM and all the top leftovers around the european scene

2015-03-03 00:11

-Semphis +ScreaM??? but seriously this isn't going to help C9 is basically a tier 2 NA team now.

2015-03-03 00:11

= worst eu team

2015-03-03 00:12

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and worst NA team

2015-03-03 00:12

Would be cool, obviously need some changes they current lineup has not potential, only shroud and n0thing have the power

2015-03-03 00:12

= net even top 10 EU team BUT the pracc and shit in EU can make them top 5 easy

2015-03-03 00:13

bootcamp for a month, then lose in group stage Kappa

2015-03-03 00:14

4 replies

I wonder how many group stage exits they need before C9 drops them.

2015-03-03 00:16

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I agree, they aren't even the best NA team at the moment. Hiko was right to leave this sinking ship.

2015-03-03 00:24

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Just sad to see Shroud finally blossoming like the possibly best NA player while still in this team right now.

2015-03-03 02:19

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I'd like to see hiko/ska in for sean/semphis, but who'd be an IGL? I don't think any good ones are available.

2015-03-03 07:54

ScreaM needs a spot - kick anyone. chrisJ maybe for Shahzam..

2015-03-03 00:18

Please dont come here

2015-03-03 00:26

wow

2015-03-03 00:27

haha NICE TRY :DD beat CLG first a couple of times then say there are no teams in NA /c9 wasted tag

2015-03-03 00:27

WOAH!!! That would be the best thing ever to happen.. I'd be super happy, but NA scene will keep on choking :D

2015-03-03 00:32

Its not like it will change the fact that several players on their team is not skilled enough.

2015-03-03 00:34

Cloud9 just needs to get a real strat caller, or a coach. They always do amateur stuff like force buying every other round, or making sloppy pushes.

2015-03-03 00:37

like thats gonna help lol, inb4 getting rkt in eu mm and coming back lol

2015-03-03 00:40

waste of money

2015-03-03 00:41

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No, its cheaper to do that since they wont have to tavel back and forward all the time.

2015-03-03 00:48

This lineup seriously doesn't have the firepower required to compete consistently against the best teams, only reason they win games on lan against good teams is due to having a different style of play which wouldn't be the case if they'll stay in europe.

2015-03-03 00:41

Smart move.

2015-03-03 00:48

Cool idea tbh, would be interesting to see what would happen if they decide to move :p

2015-03-03 00:53

would be greate.

2015-03-03 00:55

Lol cloud9 didnt realize they wont achieve anything with shahzam yet.

2015-03-03 00:58

would be nice. however, i dont think they will actually pull the trigger

2015-03-03 00:59

okey this is very stupid

2015-03-03 00:59

1 reply

why?

2015-03-03 22:10

Why Berlin and not UK ? I mean, in UK they actually speak the language and they won't need to ask someone for translation every ten minutes.

2015-03-03 00:59

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for better ping/no good uk teams

2015-03-03 02:44

dude, serious lee. germans are not french. they are able speak more than 1 language! i know, its hard to understand for a frechnie. of course they also want to stay in a save country. germany is usa of europe. so they go there. they are a bit paranoid you feel me breh? lets get back to germans: their females are actually pretty nice humans if you talk english to them. i often pretend to be from somewhere to get laid by drunken apres ski bitches. works e v e r y f u c k i n g t i m e.

2015-03-03 03:09

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We (Germans) suck at English.

2015-03-03 04:41

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I've been to Germany and many of them speak English perfectly fine... especially in Berlin lmao.

2015-03-03 09:09

If they are serious about continuing to play CS:GO competitively for a long time, than moving to Europe is a great way of getting better. But otherwise, it will be just a waste of money and time.

2015-03-03 01:08

90% of people can speak english in germany, so thats no problem.

2015-03-03 01:12

4 replies

why do german football players like ozil find it hard then?

2015-03-03 01:18

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cuz he is kebab : D like the half of today's germany population.

2015-03-03 01:40

cause his english sucks maybe?

2015-03-03 03:28

Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

2015-03-03 06:03

ScreaM inc

2015-03-03 01:40

Will move back within a year. Marginally better cs is not worth a worse lifestyle.

2015-03-03 01:43

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worse lifestyle? are you kidding me? usa is fucking boring. go to a proper berlin scene club and enjoy the fucking time of your life.

2015-03-03 03:12

Move in EU but do not take shahzam and semphis with you. +skadoodle&hiko if you don't want to be top 25 EU

2015-03-03 01:48

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Yeah, there's no doubt this is the right move. The perfect move is to only bring n0thing and shroud of course, and to take a European 5th. But semphis in particular and maybe even sgares seem to have too much control over the team for their own good. Semphis is out to defend himself because he sees his position being threatened. Can't blame him or sgares of course, just sad for those of us who want the team to have the best placings possible and don't care about the rest.

2015-03-03 02:10

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i dont understand how or even why they kept sgares and semphis for this long. and shazam? I still think thats a temporary move or some kind of joke that I just dont get. hiko skadoodle shroud nothing and +1 player better than shazam then this team could worry some top10 teams potentially

2015-03-03 03:18

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I'd love to see hiko/ska on for sean/semphis, they'd just need to find an IGL available/willing to go to C9 in Europe.

2015-03-03 07:52

If they played EU ESEA for like a week I can guarantee they would quit.

2015-03-03 01:51

1 reply

they can beat half the teams EU invite... ur ignorant

2015-03-03 04:35

Well, probably one of the better career moves for a NA team.

2015-03-03 02:07

No results and they think they can move with that line-up? No chance. Where's my vince mcmahon boys

2015-03-03 02:16

but they cant weigh up they dont have hiko

2015-03-03 02:24

- America + Europe

2015-03-03 02:31

l2p fucking trash9, and then think about bootcamp.

2015-03-03 02:35

Top 5 INC

2015-03-03 02:35

cloud9 can't get out of groups with this lineup, even if they live in europe IMO. hiko and/or desi would help them a lot imo.

2015-03-03 02:43

so they will move just for play online matches with less ping against top EU teams ?

2015-03-03 02:54

Too little too late now. First they need to get everyone on board with the idea of putting in serious practice, then maybe consider moving.

2015-03-03 02:57

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If they moved to Europe to play Counter-Strike I imagine they'd start putting in serious practice.

2015-03-03 04:06

You don't move like that and then don't practice, that's retarded. It's their career.

2015-03-03 07:49

NO HIKO, NO PARTY, as simple as that, move even to mars if you want, your team needs a roster change

2015-03-03 03:17

C9 is going to get shit on so hard when they move to EU. Mark my words in 2 months C9 will lose their contract and that whole roster will have to resort to playing MMing their whole career. C9 best Nova4 MMing team EU 2015. #RIP

2015-03-03 03:21

if ur on pro level you pracc A LOT daily, then having 10 ms vs. 70 ms is a BIG FAT HUGE ASS MONSTER DICK difference. european internet is close to lan sometimes, thats just not possible with usa's endless distances. now imagine you come into a european lan, freakin 1 million dollar tournament, without having any jetlag at all, having pracced daily under lan like conditions, against the best teams the world has to offer ... dont you think your chances of winning are higher? cloud9 HAS to move if they want to make any impact in this scene anytime soon. otherwise their days are over. if the US scene recovers, they can move back. but thats not gonna happen in the next 1-3 years ...

2015-03-03 03:21

if you get hiko and skadoodle then it could be a good move

2015-03-03 03:46

They couldn't handle Kabum anymore, so they're calling it quits.

2015-03-03 03:53

Move shroud, shahzam and n0thing to EU, let them make a team with ScreaM and Maikelele - have n0thing ingamelead. There's no fucking reason to move sgares and semphis to europe, they are trash in NA - they are even more trash in europe.

2015-03-03 04:00

Nice, good luck n0thing my friend!

2015-03-03 04:01

they should move to sweden... stockholm or something... sweden internet > world

2015-03-03 04:32

Took you 3 hours to write a 1 page story. I guess I'll have to write the article in 5 minutes for you to see the news should come sooner.

2015-03-03 04:39

OK, so they are moving to Berlin, but Stockholm is still a possibility, and will stay there indefinitely from sometime after Katowice in preparation for the ESL Cologne 500k$ major in August. That 250k$ self-funded price pool wasn't meant to be announced yet, and the likelihood of Valve matching it is like 90% I think. Hopefully they won't just match it though.

2015-03-03 04:39

C9 can barely beat tier 2 NA teams and now they are thinking of moving to Europe? Fucking hilarious.

2015-03-03 05:26

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There are no enemies which u can pracctise against in NA, I guess they want to evolve and if u want to evolve u need better enemies to also get better, if they will move to europe i guess they can become a top 10 team even, but they need some small changes in their line up

2015-03-03 05:47

why would they want to stay here? moving to EU means they can actually scrim. right now they basically have to beg for scrims. the NA scene is stagnant for the time being, this is the best possible outcome for the team. nice typical kneejerk hltv response though, really shows how dense the majority of the userbase here really is.

2015-03-03 19:50

Are they changing their name to CloudNein aswell?

2015-03-03 05:51

Their team is terrible so it doesn't matter whether they'll move to Europe.

2015-03-03 05:52

Shroud ChrisJ nothing hiko scream

2015-03-03 06:07

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Not bad.

2015-03-04 10:54

Chico must be cryin right now :D

2015-03-03 06:23

There is no future for them with Shahzam. It was strange that they took him after one good lan, even when he was always underperforming there compared to his online level.

2015-03-03 06:39

Cloud9 have no future in EU bcs they suck a dick, even Orbit can beat them

2015-03-03 06:40

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wow you couldn't sound more lame. "they suck a dick" wow man... Is this the demeanor of must users here? Just excessive shit talking without a trace of constructiveness?? God help you son, get an education, stay in school. ANYWAY! Cloud 9 would benefit from playing in Europe because they would be able to boot camp versus the best teams obviously. Now the logistics of moving some Mericans' to Europe to play higher tier CS sounds kind of crazy but I like it.

2015-03-03 06:48

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it doesnt sound crazy it sounds stupid.

2015-03-03 09:36

that's good

2015-03-03 06:51

nice

2015-03-03 07:23

Thats nice

2015-03-03 07:24

$$$$$

2015-03-03 07:48

they are shit they cannot do anything.

2015-03-03 07:54

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2015-03-03 08:01

big waste, just pick up Ska + Hiko, make some changes, move them to Europe and watch the money flow .. With this lineup nothing's gonna happen (^_^)

2015-03-03 08:01

April, Breaking news: The whole Cloud9 team deranked to DMG.

2015-03-03 08:18

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+1 :D

2015-03-03 09:51

The Australian VOX embraced their Australian playstyle, don't see why cloud9 can't do the same with their American playstyle.

2015-03-03 08:20

Would love to see this, hope its going to happen!

2015-03-03 08:27

Finally a top Team with residence in Germany? :D

2015-03-03 08:32

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thought the same :P

2015-03-03 14:47

unexpected :)

2015-03-03 08:47

haha yeah come to Berlin mate :D

2015-03-03 09:13

oh, so they wanna finally relize how wasteful the whole cloud9 project is at this stage and disband because they cant achieve anything with the current roster? yeah, okay, come to europe

2015-03-03 09:18

n1!

2015-03-03 09:23

none of the good teams permanently live together under 1 roof for extended periods of time. in lol it seems to work but cs not, some people need time to rewind in peace and quiet. this seems like a desperate move by c9, rather change the roster and get rid of bad players like n0thing and whatnot.

2015-03-03 09:35

if they will move to Europe it will be good decision

2015-03-03 09:50

eLevate best NA team atm, imho.

2015-03-03 09:52

Would be a fail of the century.

2015-03-03 09:57

true professionals

2015-03-03 10:05

Wouldn't the best teams be in Sweden or France?

2015-03-03 10:17

n0thing said on stream that his first option was sweden and i also know n0thing loves sweden so that makes it even more possible even tho this says berlin

2015-03-03 10:35

Who remember NAVI ? A bunch of player slacking in the top 50.. This is the opportunity to C9 to "WORK" like NaVi did in the past. I hope they take this really seriously and we may see soon a big change in their game that will shut the fuck up of those hltv "pro gamer" without any lan in their history. Go C9 !

2015-03-03 10:39

I don't see this working tbh. NiP tried the gaming house solution full-time and then reverted that option because it wasn't working. Shox and some other french players hated the verygames/titan gaming house. Even if they improve ingame it will end up breaking the team in the long run imo. Let's see.

2015-03-03 10:46

nice move, american stage not good

2015-03-03 10:57

There are already enough Shahzams in Europe. Please don't leave your BurgerTacoLand.

2015-03-03 10:59

They still need to replace semphis to even have a shot at taking home an european tournament.

2015-03-03 11:39

they need to replace semphis and sgares if they want to succeed. And shroud needs to stop choking against good teams. They should make an all-star team of the best US players if they want to compete with the best in Europe.

2015-03-03 12:27

Ez move with shroud & n0thing's stream monies

2015-03-03 13:23

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nah ez with C9 monies

2015-03-03 15:40

welcome

2015-03-03 13:46

-sean -semphis -shahzam +hiko +tarik +skadoodle Make it happen

2015-03-03 15:30

-unskilled Shahzam and you're ready, guys!

2015-03-03 16:54

So they could get asses kicked in mm vs european silvers

2015-03-03 18:13

Note to csgolounge staff please remove all na matches because they are useless after shroud9 leaves

2015-03-03 18:13

They have really good players and I think this will make them much better! Go C9!

2015-03-03 19:03

more tourneys in eu, more prizemoney.

2015-03-03 19:11

good, maybe they can actually find a scrim for a change. NA scene is absolutely shit, and probably will be for another full season. moving is the best possible option for c9.

2015-03-03 19:51