Gfinity Masters teams revealed

5-5-2015 18:35

Gfinity has released the full list of participants for its Spring Masters II event.

Gfinity has decided to expand its upcoming Spring Masters II tournament from eight teams to 10 following interest from several top sides in attending the event, which will take place from May 15-17 at the British company's eSports arena, located in London.

A total of $50,000 will be up for grabs in the tournament - the second of four Masters championships that will be held until the end of the year -, with the winning side walking away with half of that figure.

Gfinity Masters will be Skadoodle's first event with Cloud9

EnVyUs will be travelling to London to defend the Gfinity title clinched in March after beating Ninjas in Pyjamas, who will also attend the event next week, in the grand final by a 3-1 scoreline.

But certainly the primary talking point ahead of the tournament is that it will mark the LAN debut of the new Cloud9 lineup, featuring Tyler "⁠Skadoodle⁠" Latham and Ryan "⁠freakazoid⁠" Abadir.

Below you can find the full list of participants for Gfinity Spring Masters II:

EnVyUs	fnatic
NiP	Titan
Null element Na`Vi	Virtus.pro
Cloud9	Team Liquid
Vox Eminor	Immunity

opachki

2015-05-05 18:35

11 replies

Where is TSM?😥😥

2015-05-05 18:43

1 reply

taking vacation bud

2015-05-05 18:44

C9 Hype

2015-05-05 18:45

5 replies

LETS GO NA

2015-05-06 02:56

4 replies

will be intressting to see who placed 9th-10th if its gonna be both NA's or one of those manages to go 1 step further and place 7th-8th xD ... tier 3 teams are so annoying

2015-05-06 09:38

2 replies

So if Titan places 7-8 they're tier 3 and so also annoying to you?

2015-05-06 23:07

1 reply

There are 2 NA teams and 2 Australian teams.. I highly doubt they will place below 6th

2015-05-07 10:42

Nah mate Oceania

2015-05-07 00:03

fake flagger detected :D

2015-05-05 18:48

1 reply

indeed

2015-05-05 19:21

lol gfinity's line up is 10x more interesting than dreamhack tours.

2015-05-06 10:32

almost n1

2015-05-05 18:36

gl nip

2015-05-05 18:36

nice

2015-05-05 18:36

no Kinguin ? sad

2015-05-05 18:36

3 replies

Like you can make a top level team in 2 weeks

2015-05-05 19:06

2 replies

kinguin would place between 1st and 6th in their current form here, no reason not to invite them at least.

2015-05-06 09:24

1 reply

hahaahHaHAhaHAhahaha

2015-05-06 10:44

2015-05-05 18:36

no tsm wtf

2015-05-05 18:36

3 replies

vacation

2015-05-05 18:41

2 replies

aww

2015-05-05 19:09

They either study or are on vacation lmao

2015-05-05 23:33

2015-05-05 18:36

Was gonna be epic if TSM win 3rd event in a row

2015-05-05 18:36

1 reply

Theyre doing the smart thing, taking a week off. :D

2015-05-05 19:55

Nice

2015-05-05 18:36

-Titan +TSM ;(

2015-05-05 18:36

1 reply

no matter how good TSM are as a team, i think that people would like to watch kenny more

2015-05-05 19:05

I like the 6-2-2 split of EU-NA-OCE

2015-05-05 18:37

3 replies

should be 10-0-0.

2015-05-05 18:38

1 reply

2015-05-06 10:44

Me too. EU will win but nice to see that.

2015-05-05 18:39

GFINITY PROTECTING TIER 2 TEAMS FROM KINGUIN

2015-05-05 18:37

5 replies

lold

2015-05-05 18:42

Haha LOL

2015-05-05 18:55

fnatic is still in the tournament.. they are also sponsored by Kinguin

2015-05-05 19:10

2 replies

he meant this kinguin team www.hltv.org/news/14880-kinguin-signs-csgo-team

2015-05-05 20:43

1 reply

o rly shithead? kinguin team would lose 0-16 every match.

2015-05-06 10:45

skaaaaaaaaaa

2015-05-05 18:37

no TSM? that's lame if you ask me.

2015-05-05 18:37

No TSM? They refused or what?

2015-05-05 18:37

2 replies

On vacation after 2 tourney wins!

2015-05-05 18:45

They have had like 6 tournaments in the last 7 weeks or so and i tihnk they will attend france next week so they might be takeing some time off

2015-05-05 20:37

no Team Kinguin, no fun

2015-05-05 18:37

The question is, will captain 'murica score a map victory in europe?

2015-05-05 18:37

haha no tsm gg

2015-05-05 18:37

Team Liquid really? Why not CLG, they are stronger...

2015-05-05 18:38

3 replies

clg had line up changes. -ptr +i don't remember but that was it if i'm not mistaken

2015-05-05 22:31

Team liquid always gets invited over CLG, but it could just be lineup stuff

2015-05-05 23:56

I'd rather have seen Luminosity or eLevate over Liquid. Either would have done better, think.

2015-05-06 23:14

no indian teams wtf

2015-05-05 18:38

5 replies

LOL

2015-05-05 18:38

1 reply

why is this funny? if na teams are there why cant indian teams be?

2015-05-05 19:00

2015-05-05 18:40

LOL

2015-05-05 18:44

lmao

2015-05-05 18:44

why Liquid and no CLG?

2015-05-05 18:38

4 replies

I'd like to ask why Liquid and no eLevate?

2015-05-05 18:42

3 replies

because if you elevate, temperature descends, therefore liquid would get frozen :|

2015-05-05 22:15

2 replies

Clouds are made out of gaseous liquid. Cloud 9 = Liquid gas

2015-05-07 01:57

1 reply

The only way to find clouds is to elevate. The height increases the luminosity and temperatures, so the liquids turn into gas.

2015-05-07 03:10

2 trash australian teams + Liquid and no TSM hahaha nice joke m8s

2015-05-05 18:38

12 replies

TSM are taking a break lol... also 2 of the best Australian teams* Sure they may not be able to compete with the likes of fnatic but they can take out NA teams as they have proven, and could potentially upset some euro teams. They aren't coming over because they think they're going to win, they're coming over because it's boosting their scene and it's a good learning experience.

2015-05-05 23:28

You're so bitter

2015-05-06 00:21

Vox Eminor bested Dignitas (top10) and Flipsid3 (top15-20) very easily at Katowice, Immunity won 2-1 over the winner of the NA FACEIT League. Face it, Australian teams are decent.

2015-05-06 00:39

9 replies

Vox's win was against different Dignitas Lineup and Flipsid3 without s1mple=irrelevant.Liquid is probably the worst NA team right now so that makes little to no sense to me actually xD

2015-05-06 00:55

8 replies

I think either way beating those teams, even having a standin shows that you don't suck. At all.

2015-05-06 01:09

7 replies

dignitas pre MSL was a fucking disaster and if u are following them u will know that.s1mple is obviously the best F3 player and the one that can single-handedly win them games.So i dont think that beating those 2 teams in a bo1 means anything at all ^^

2015-05-06 01:47

6 replies

ok silver rank

2015-05-06 14:10

5 replies

yea AUS teams are like silvers when playing EU's best XD

2015-05-06 15:41

4 replies

Bit toxic there? Sure Dignitas wasn't doing to hot but it's still the same lineup that they have now? And now they're doing better so it shows that they're decent players. Vox also took down 3Dmax with Allu and f3, and without s1mple they're still a decent team, world edit is pretty good. So stop being so bitter they deserve a spot there just as much as any other euro team that they could have invited instead

2015-05-06 22:54

3 replies

nah,they dont.

2015-05-06 22:59

2 replies

this Chill guy, lives in 3rd world, nuff said.

2015-05-07 01:15

You genuinely don't know what you're talking about, you're saying they don't deserve a spot with no evidence to back up your statement. The fact is that Vox has beaten the current Dig lineup and the Dig lineup hasn't beaten Vox. Also Vox and Imm could take out most euro t2 teams.

2015-05-07 01:53

why did NA even get 2 spots lmao, I'd rather have indians or fucking saudi arabians

2015-05-05 18:39

2 replies

you're salty

2015-05-06 02:10

1 reply

You're bad

2015-05-06 16:37

Liquid is a waste of spot

2015-05-05 18:39

+Kinguin

2015-05-05 18:39

Two Oceanic teams now! Pretty sad that NA are losing some spots in tournaments but it is a good time for the Oceanic region! GL HF Vox and immunity! :3

2015-05-05 18:40

10 replies

If liquid is the 2nd best you don't want to see the third best.

2015-05-05 18:41

9 replies

I know and you are right but I meant that it's sad that the NA region is doing so poorly right now and I hope they shape up so they have good and solid teams.

2015-05-05 18:45

4 replies

Haha, thanks. Hopefully C9 can do some damage this LAN, by far our best hope atm.

2015-05-05 18:49

1 reply

Your best hope is elevate tbh

2015-05-05 19:59

First time I've seen anyone EU not making fun of our problems. You, sir, are awesome. :D

2015-05-05 20:06

1 reply

haha I am actually quite interested of the NA scene and try to keep up to the matches that are played. I think the NA region has potential to make good cs teams but that the only problem is that all the best players in NA is playing in different teams. I liked Hiko's idea with a "super NA team" but unfortunately the IBP bans pushed the scene back super much. And no sir, you, are awesome! ;)

2015-05-05 20:25

hard to say what team is the best NA lineup atm. almost like the spot just as well could have gone to nihilum and luminosity. still, its a lot of fun with different teams from different regions

2015-05-05 18:52

2 replies

Couldn't agree more! The best team right now in NA is anyone from Nihilum, CLG, Cloud9, eLevate, Liquid and Luminosity. I do found it more weird that the oceanic region is performing better than NA at lans since the NA scene has been way more active then the oceanic. It's also embarrassing that a random Brazilian team is having a better performance than the whole of NA.

2015-05-05 18:59

1 reply

So true! it could be a matter of playstyle, maybe the oceanic region has a more suitable playstyle than the NA teams, this lan will answer a lot of questions tho, cant wait:)

2015-05-05 19:03

liquid is not the 2nd best tho.. elevate, clg > liquid

2015-05-05 21:00

2 Australian teams, that's a good thing !!! They can get more experience and they might reach the EU teams' level. Really nice move from Gfinity, GL HF all

2015-05-05 18:40

N/A teams come here lose again?

2015-05-05 18:40

1 reply

i think c9 might have a chance to win a few games, but liquid is probably just gonna lose

2015-05-10 13:02

so many fucking trash teams..... nice tier 3 shitfinity ://

2015-05-05 18:41

1 reply

Lol it's not all about the teams, it's about international exposure hence the 2 oce spots and the 2 NA spots, and there's not too many other teams they could have invited anyway.

2015-05-05 23:32

wow

2015-05-05 18:41

Wtf why not TSM? Gfinity HAHA.

2015-05-05 18:41

wow why no TSM ??? team Kinguin etc sad

2015-05-05 18:41

why liquid for fuck sake invite clg or lg

2015-05-05 18:41

4 replies

+1 lol worst invite ever

2015-05-05 18:47

+1 Liquid have done bugger all at every EU event they've been invited to. I'd rather see LG or CLG.

2015-05-05 18:56

2 replies

16-14 Flipside lmao (without s1mple)

2015-05-06 05:04

1 reply

Sure, they had one game. A lot of teams do. But with the recent roster changes, I'd rather see the new LG or the new CLG at this event rather than a tried and tested team who seems to consistently fail to produce results at LANs featuring non-NA teams.

2015-05-06 15:05

-Na -aus +EU

2015-05-05 18:42

8 replies

Lol

2015-05-05 23:33

Yeah man lets let the same group of teams win everything and not give the rest of the world a chance, that'd be great for CS!

2015-05-06 00:22

6 replies

NA and AUS teams will be free farm for EU teams anyways.

2015-05-06 06:44

5 replies

They've proved time and time again that they're improving.

2015-05-06 07:10

4 replies

I'll rather watch TSM mouz or dignitas than Na/aus teams

2015-05-06 10:27

3 replies

Watch them then, it's not like there isn't a lot of chances to watch them. Embrace the chance to watch different teams play

2015-05-06 10:35

2 replies

16-0 stomp isn't interesting enough to watch

2015-05-06 10:53

1 reply

Don't watch then? It's not like there's a shortage of EU vs EU matches to watch

2015-05-06 11:37

Looks good, time to shine straya/murica?

2015-05-05 18:42

cool :) would've loved to see the new mousesports though

2015-05-05 18:43

1 reply

no they suck dick

2015-05-06 09:19

-immunity +kinguin

2015-05-05 18:44

"Gfinity has decided to expand its upcoming Spring Masters II tournament from eight teams to 10 following" I only see 6 teams. "masters" Nice joke, 6 teams and 4 pugs.

2015-05-05 18:44

13 replies

Your lack of CS knowledge is disturbing

2015-05-06 00:25

3 replies

Sorry you're right, good luck getting 6 rounds on average again.

2015-05-07 16:11

2 replies

So why are you having a dig then? What's the problem with having a few teams outside of the EU region from time to time? I don't get the problem

2015-05-08 00:17

1 reply

I always consider any masters event, whether it's e-sports or real sports to include the best players/teams possible yet having 6 real teams and 4 "pugs" defeats the purpose of this. Just call it Gfinity Spring II then it's all good but calling it masters then inviting tier 3 teams is bullshit.

2015-05-08 15:37

+1 this aussie guy doesn't get it.

2015-05-06 15:58

8 replies

In the 10 posts above and below you, there's not a single flag.

2015-05-08 00:16

7 replies

Stupid edit button, not a single Aussie flag. You just mad I rekt you in that other discussion.

2015-05-08 00:18

6 replies

AUS is shit in csgo. I wonder how did you even rekt me.

2015-05-08 06:34

5 replies

Australia isn't shit though? They've proved time and time again that they can take maps off European and American teams. These teams being in the top 20. People like you are so ignorant to the facts

2015-05-08 07:49

4 replies

EU is far above AUS / NA. This is a fact. Everyone knows that, except you which means you are ignorant. Bo1 major groups are random so their wins aren't that great. Taking a map is not a win though.

2015-05-08 10:15

3 replies

You're stating what everyone knows that, I don't even know why you're mentioning it. You said Australia is shit at CSGO which is straight up bullshit and ignorant of you to say considering Australian teams have BEATEN (Not just taken maps off) both EU and NA teams. I don't even know what you're trying to say

2015-05-08 13:27

2 replies

You don't know that. When did an Australian team win against European in a top tier tournament in a bo3? You want to prove that Australian teams are good. They are good vs NA teams because both AUS and NA teams suck. None of the Australian and/or NA teams are even in top 15. KeyD is the only team outside of Europe in top 15.

2015-05-08 13:50

1 reply

I don't know what? You keep changing what you're saying here... Vox Eminor and Immunity have taken maps off of and beaten NA and EU teams. That's literally all there is to it. You never once before this mentioned what "Tier". Of fucking course they're not going to beating fnatic and NV on their first or second trip overseas, that's ridiculous to expect.

2015-05-08 14:51

no kinguin no party

2015-05-05 18:44

nip to lose in finals

2015-05-05 18:44

-liquid + clg

2015-05-05 18:45

Why the fuck do they keep wasting slots on C9...? I love freak and ska but the other three are so fucking baaaad.

2015-05-05 18:45

people cant be this retarded thinking they didnt invite tsm lol

2015-05-05 18:46

Unless Gfinity knows something we don't in regards to roster changes, then the Liquid spot is another wasted invite.

2015-05-05 18:46

1 reply

adreN just said on stream that changes are coming. But regardless they're still gonna get shat on at this lan.

2015-05-05 19:12

Navi is going to win this. I guarantee it.

2015-05-05 18:47

gr8, going to be an intersting lan guyz

2015-05-05 18:49

Expect delays boyzzzz.

2015-05-05 18:50

great ! team liquid to win it xDxD

2015-05-05 18:50

Why Liquid instead of a real team? :<

2015-05-05 18:51

-Liquid +CLG

2015-05-05 18:52

boring! same teams over and over every event

2015-05-05 18:53

Liquid? wtf have they achieved to warrant such an invite

2015-05-05 18:53

1 reply

Absofuckinglutely nothing big org prob

2015-05-05 19:50

-immunity -liquid +mousesports/flipsid3/ +g2/dignitas/LGB

2015-05-05 18:55

no TSM?? could be an easy win for fnatic finally .. lol

2015-05-05 18:55

2 AUS TEAMS :D

2015-05-05 18:57

LIQUID? ARE YOU KIDDING ME GFINITY MASERS??

2015-05-05 18:59

I really like NA CS but holy shit should they stop getting invited to events when they can't win shit. ps Liquid should kick daps

2015-05-05 19:01

shit finity

2015-05-05 19:02

no tsm no party

2015-05-05 19:02

liquid is fucking dogshit CLG, nihilum or elevate would be better

2015-05-05 19:03

C9!

2015-05-05 19:07

vox <3

2015-05-05 19:07

No TSM. Boooooooo.

2015-05-05 19:08

-cloud9 +kinguin plz

2015-05-05 19:14

Thank god no tsm

2015-05-05 19:19

no tms? navi ez

2015-05-05 19:20

its so hard to choose top1 team in the world if every time some team is missing, now tsm, another time nv, I want to see tournaments with all top teams :/

2015-05-05 19:22

NA confirmed last place again?

2015-05-05 19:22

10 hours delays confirmed

2015-05-05 19:23

i want immunity and vox to face off hahaha

2015-05-05 19:27

Why Liquid??? They suck on international LANs always.

2015-05-05 19:31

Actually... nice teams.

2015-05-05 19:37

liquid to get spitroasted by fnatic and immunity

2015-05-05 19:45

what a waste of 4 spots

2015-05-05 19:48

1 reply

Yeah they should have invited 4 of Japan's best teams instead.

2015-05-06 10:40

1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9.Team Liquid 10.C9 Nokappa

2015-05-05 19:48

1.---- 2.NiP 3.---- 4.---- 5.---- 6.---- 6.---

2015-05-05 19:55

Someone coordinate a pasha vs freak fight.

2015-05-05 20:14

no tsm no party

2015-05-05 20:14

no team kinguin no lyfe

2015-05-05 20:24

navi to win it all

2015-05-05 20:32

1. fnatic 2. EnVyUs 3. NiP 4. Virtus.Pro 5. Na`Vi 6. Cloud9 7. Immunity 8. Team Liquid 9. Titan 10. Vox Eminor

2015-05-05 20:33

why do they keep inviting crappy teams ?

2015-05-05 20:40

5 replies

What teams do you think would have been better? Plus they did it for international exposure.

2015-05-05 23:39

4 replies

Kinguin, LGB, Dignitas, Hellraisers, Flipsid3, Gamers2, Mousesports, Penta, KeyD, etc. Probably for

2015-05-06 09:15

3 replies

All are European teams aside from KeyD, which would not benefit Gfinity's publicity. Also Vox 16-2'd F3 (although they didn't have s1mple) however even with s1mple they still probably would've lost. Vox, Immunity and the NA teams could also take out Hellraisers, G2, possibly Mouz and Penta due to the new lineup. Also it's a bit difficult for KeyD although that would have been nice. So most of those teams are on a similar level to the NA/AUS teams, however they're all euros which makes it shitty and boring.

2015-05-06 10:28

2 replies

No it's not "shitty and boring" to invite more euro teams. It's FAIR. I don't mind having NA and AUS teams, but to be fair having two australian teams here is too much. One is enough. Liquid keeps getting invited but they fail time and time again. It sucks for some of the best t2 teams in EU that they can't attend a tournament they are good enough for, because they HAVE to invite another AUS and NA team for publicity.

2015-05-06 18:36

1 reply

More regional competition is more fun for everyone as everyone has the chance to support their own region, making it more fun. Also Vox and Immunity aswell as the NA teams have the potential to take out most euro tier 2 teams, if not all of them. The Aussies and the Americans deserve to be there as much as anyone else, although maybe the liquid invite is questionable but then again they have been good in the past.

2015-05-06 22:59

1.fnatic 2.navi 3.envy 4.vp 5.nip 6.titan 7.cloud9 8.vox 9.liquid 10.immunity

2015-05-05 20:47

N1 Gl navi Fnatic

2015-05-05 20:56

Why invite liquid? They're only the 6th best team in an already weak NA scene

2015-05-05 21:07

c9 to place 3rd. I am from the future.

2015-05-05 21:33

where is Kinguin?? kappa

2015-05-05 21:35

twitter.com/TSMdupreeh/status/5956304780.. :(

2015-05-05 21:56

1 reply

fuck them

2015-05-06 00:30

inb4 C9 get out at fucking group stages. 1-1 tie against luminosity lmao don't expect them to have improved much over that time period xD

2015-05-05 21:57

1 reply

2015-05-05 22:24

Great and interesting teams!

2015-05-05 23:12

nice

2015-05-05 23:16

Good teams, 2 NA and 2 Aus will make it much more enjoyable :D

2015-05-05 23:41

inb4 1 day delay

2015-05-05 23:42

Team Liquid another lol

2015-05-06 00:06

This is going to be NA vs Aus in close battles, and EU just stomping them into oblivion later.

2015-05-06 00:06

1 reply

Sounds about right :)

2015-05-06 00:32

No TSM = Fnatic Win

2015-05-06 00:26

When the fuck is this?

2015-05-06 00:30

1. SKT1 2. VP 3. TSM 4. Fnatic 5. Vox Faker Senpai notice me

2015-05-06 01:37

1 reply

jw best

2015-05-06 01:38

Love Skadoodle but I dont see C9 getting past group stage.

2015-05-06 02:06

-one of the aussie teams +keyd

2015-05-06 02:07

2 replies

-liquid +keyd

2015-05-06 02:36

KeyD are moving to NA to compete in ESL/ESEA league.

2015-05-06 07:50

in b4 aussie teams upset both NA squads and potentially some of the EU teams..

2015-05-06 02:14

1 reply

stfu annoying shit cunts from backwardsland

2015-05-06 09:04

2 oceanic teams is awesome! Really hope the scene starts to adapt to eu playable and start winning :D. Definitely tuning in!

2015-05-06 02:18

I'm calling it now, Vox will beat c9 and Na`Vi

2015-05-06 02:51

2 replies

they had a lineup change right? Was it worth it or did they lose strenght? I like VOX as a team, hope they beat those NA bots...

2015-05-06 09:44

1 reply

TopGun was a fantastic player, his replacement is Yam is also very good and experienced. I think over time Yam will fit in nicely and create a solid lineup but they may still be rebuilding by Gfinity, but I could be wrong and they could get some really nice results :D

2015-05-06 10:39

1.VOX 2.VOX 3.VOX 4.VOX 5.VOX 6. VP 7. NIP 8. Navi 9. Titan 10. Envyus 11. fnatic 12. immunity 13. c9 14. tl ez for VOX

2015-05-06 03:20

1 reply

Now it's happening!

2015-05-06 10:13

All Australian final, you heard it here first.

2015-05-06 04:36

2 replies

immunity vs vox or liquid vs c9 final ez

2015-05-06 07:11

1 reply

Vox vs C9 and iM vs Liquid in the semi's.

2015-05-06 07:56

lmao at these replies, vox are better than iM.

2015-05-06 05:06

1. Fnatic 2. Na'Vi 3. Virtus Pro 4. Ninjas in Pyjamas 5. EnvyUs 6. Cloud9 7. Titan (Bot KennyS to drop 10 bomb) 8. VOX 9. Immunity 10. Team Liquid

2015-05-06 09:03

hope c9 does well. Ill be happy if they get top 4, will be a huge step for amerika cs

2015-05-06 09:15

im telling you dear muricans, IF C9 AND TL END UP 9TH-10TH THEN BE READY TO DELETE THE GAME!!! last chance to deliver, you are the joke of this game so far.. if you get beaten again by both of the australians then gg, /delete /ban

2015-05-06 09:41

sooo...c9 has played 3 online matches with the new lineup and ppl think they are going to place well at a intl lan, logic of some is flawless

2015-05-06 10:03

3 replies

logic/10

2015-05-06 10:09

They will beat vox. Probably would've beaten them with the old lineup too

2015-05-06 12:03

1 reply

Wouldn't have***

2015-05-06 14:56

Lets gooooooo c9!

2015-05-06 13:39

Nip ezpz

2015-05-06 13:42

No TSM is a fucking joke

2015-05-06 13:59

1 reply

They were invited but they decided to take a break

2015-05-06 23:02

omfg is this that retarded tournament? where they have massive delays?

2015-05-06 16:40

Nice, two teams from oceanic scene. Hope they will do well and overtake NA scene

2015-05-06 18:37

yeahhh UK Lan, no UK teams in it. G Fucking G

2015-05-07 01:18

-Liquid +TSM

2015-05-08 04:36

Us australians are ready to lose again... but GO THE AUSSIES

2015-05-08 06:38

3 replies

I feel your pain. At least you won't have all the EU people rooting against you, like they do us.

2015-05-08 06:45

2 replies

True, true :)

2015-05-08 12:11

the americans complain too much about things like salary and that they cant train full time because they dont get enough money, while most american players earn more than players from fnatic and nip etc.

2015-05-10 13:07