KILLERFISH react to Lounge ban

KILLERFISH have issued a statement to react to the team's ban on CSGOLounge.

On Monday, the popular betting website announced an embargo on KILLERFISH after detecting suspicious betting activity in several matches involving the German team.

The news was met with widespread criticism as the team had already been accused of match-fixing at the start of the year, when they were playing under the name myRevenge.

Back then, the players rejected all accusations, but that did not stop Valve from disqualifying the team from the offline qualifier for ESL One Katowice as it conducted an investigation into the matter - whose outcome remains unknown to this date.

Contacted by HLTV.org, Antonin "⁠TONI⁠" Bernhardt has now put together a statement about the latest controversy surrounding his team, which you can find in full below:

Since the news of our alleged involvement another match-fixing case threatens the careers of the players and the reputation of KILLERFISH, I would like to stand up for my team and the organisation and make a comprehensive comment on this matter as quickly as possible.
"Some of you might remember the match-fixing scandal in which we were involved the beginning of the year, when we were named myRevenge. We got banned from CSGOLounge and disqualified from the ESL One Katowice offline qualifier by Valve as a result of CSGOLounge's decision. After this drama there was no proof of us throwing matches for skins and we are not banned from future Valve tournaments. As a result, we were able to continue playing, CSGOLounge reversed our ban and our matches were once again featured on the platform a few weeks later.
 
Since this first match-fixing scandal is officially still under investigation by Valve since there has not been any official statement about it, I highly doubt Valve will punish us for this case since they apparently do not need nearly a half a year to investigate a serious matter like this. I contacted the people in charge at Valve back then with an extensive letter to explain our situation and they did not punish us, which we are really grateful for since it was the only right decision.
Now, this whole disaster happens again as we are accused of being involved with a nameless bettor who unfortunately places insanely high bets on a high amount of CSGOLounge tracked matches of us. Since this single bettor apparently made so many max bets with over 100 accounts from the same ip and had a 100% winrate in our matches, we can understand CSGOLounge's worries. My team and I kindly ask CSGOLounge to provide more information about this bettor: for example, how many of our matches he bet on and preferably his name, so that we can get in contact with hi. Moreover, we kindly ask everyone who reads this to provide information about the person behind the crazy bets or maybe the bettor himself can help us out by saying we have no ties with him. We would be highly grateful for it.
Since we were innocent the first time around, I would like to make it clear that we can say with a clear conscience that we are innocent this time again. I can understand that is it not the easiest thing to believe in, but I can say that this is the truth. My team and have dedicated half of our lives to Counter-Strike and we put enormous effort into the game since we are a professional team that is contracted. I would just like to mention that it would be stupid and careless after the first scandal to risk our careers and names or even get into legal trouble because we are signed by a professional organization.
About the recent accusations: We are not the best team in world, so we can lose against top tier teams. When we lose we are not throwing. Besides, some of our recent matches had cash prizes involved. The latest matches that we lost and that we are accused of losing on purpose were really close, like 14-16 and lost in overtime. Furthermore, we were also winning matches against good teams in which this crazy bettor was betting on us. This time, my team was accused of cheating during the match against nerdRage. Either we are throwing or we are cheating. It is a bit crazy, is it not?
I would also kindly ask CSGOLounge and even Valve to investigate our case right down to the smallest detail. Check our inventory histories, the IP of every player, our betting activities (there are none) and the alleged arrangement with the bettor. No one on the team or in KILLERFISh even knows the name of the bettor, let alone has been in contact with that person. Since this is an incredibly frustrating situation in which we find ourselves again while being completely innocent, we want our case to fully investigated by CSGOLounge and Valve. We are suffering from the injustice and back luck of being a target of a bettor with incredible results.
My team and I are available to prove our innocence. In the name of my team I can be reached via e-mail, Steam or by phone to provide every information CSGOLounge needs from us to pick us up on their platform again.
 
I hope the community stops the hate until there is a final verdict by CSGOLounge or Valve.

Since the news of our alleged involvement in another match-fixing case threatens the careers of the players and the reputation of KILLERFISH, I wanted to stand up for my team and the organisation and make a comprehensive comment on this matter as quickly as possible.

Some of you might remember the match-fixing scandal in which we were involved at the beginning of the year, when we were named myRevenge. We got banned from CSGOLounge and disqualified from the ESL One Katowice offline qualifier by Valve as a result of CSGOLounge's decision. After this drama there was no proof of us throwing matches for skins and we are not banned from attending Valve-sponsored tournaments. As a result, we were able to continue playing, CSGOLounge reversed our ban and our matches were once again featured on the platform a few weeks later. 

Since this first match-fixing scandal is officially still under investigation by Valve since there has not been any official statement about it, I highly doubt Valve will punish us for this case since they apparently do not need nearly a half a year to investigate a serious matter like this. I wrote an extensive letter to the people in charge at Valve back then to explain our situation and they did not punish us, which we are really grateful for since it was the only right decision.

Now, this whole disaster happens again as we are accused of being involved with a nameless bettor who unfortunately places insanely high bets on a high amount of CSGOLounge tracked matches of us. Since this single bettor apparently made so many max bets with over 100 accounts from the same ip and had a 100% winrate in our matches, we can understand CSGOLounge's worries. My team and I kindly ask CSGOLounge to provide more information about this bettor: for example, the number of our matches he bet on and preferably his name, so that we can get in contact with him/Her. Moreover, we kindly ask everyone who reads this to provide information about the person behind the crazy bets or maybe the bettor himself/herself can help us out by saying we have no ties with him/her. We would be highly grateful for it.

Since we were innocent the first time around, I would like to make it clear that we can say with a clear conscience that we are innocent this time again. I can understand that is it not the easiest thing to believe in, but I can say that this is the truth. My team and I have dedicated half of our lives to Counter-Strike and we put enormous effort into the game since we are a professional team that is contracted. I would just like to mention that it would be stupid and careless after the first scandal to risk our careers and names or even get into legal trouble because we are signed by a professional organization.

About the recent accusations: We are not the best team in world, so we can lose against top tier teams. When we lose we are not throwing. Besides, some of our recent matches had cash prizes involved. The latest matches that we lost and that we are accused of losing on purpose were really close, like 14-16 or lost in overtime. Furthermore, we were also winning matches against good teams in which this crazy bettor was betting on us. This time, my team was accused of cheating during the match against nerdRage. Either we are throwing or we are cheating. It is a bit crazy, is it not?

I would also kindly ask CSGOLounge and even Valve to investigate our case right down to the smallest detail. Check our inventory history, the IP of every player, our betting activities (there are none) and the alleged arrangement with the bettor. No one on the team or in KILLERFISh even knows the name of the bettor, let alone has been in contact with that person. Since this is an incredibly frustrating situation in which we find ourselves again while being completely innocent, we want our case to fully investigated by CSGOLounge and Valve. We are suffering from the injustice and back luck of being the target of a bettor with incredible results.

My team and I are available to prove our innocence. I can be reached via e-mail or Steam or by phone to provide every information CSGOLounge needs from us to pick us up on their platform again. 

I hope the community stops the hate until there is a final verdict by CSGOLounge or Valve."

Germany Antonin 'TONI' Bernhardt
Antonin 'TONI' Bernhardt
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#14
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United States kdgang
you should be happy no bet is on your team. Less likely to get ddossed and hate spam on hltv
2015-06-02 04:16
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#70
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Sweden rollerc
Well if there is no real evidence they've throwed games they can't really be banned. :O
2015-06-02 06:15
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2 replies
100 max bet accouns with 100% accuracy only betting on KF - I completely agree with CSGOL's statement "by not feeling comfortable hosting CSGOL matches."
2015-06-02 08:39
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1 reply
#189
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World kolo2
I d be not surprised if it was out of csgolounge ass for free add. There is no way to verify it so csgolonge can say whatever they want.
2015-06-02 11:24
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#161
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World staramper
this it's a dream come true for any team to not be put on csgolounge since they are protesting, it shows they did actually bet. So they want to save their profits and think they can't find evidence
2015-06-02 09:52
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#21
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Belarus Starvoid
k, cya
2015-06-02 04:17
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#22
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Australia DFM-
Great response, of course it may seem suspicious but its probably purely a coincidence. Banning and accusing a team of throwing without evidence is not the way to work around the issue...
2015-06-02 04:18
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11 replies
#46
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United States spaceghost--
There is evidence.
2015-06-02 04:54
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9 replies
#48
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Australia DFM-
Where?
2015-06-02 04:55
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8 replies
There isnt kids on hltv wanna sound smart and accuse any team they lose agenst eather to be cheaters or throwers.
2015-06-02 05:19
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4 replies
#73
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World 65 WAT
so basicly you dont have any evidence
2015-06-02 06:24
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2 replies
that's what he said. just put a . (DOT) between isn't and kids
2015-06-02 09:19
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1 reply
+1
2015-06-02 17:26
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#75
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Ukraine ("___")
What?
2015-06-02 06:28
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#316
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United States spaceghost--
"Since this single bettor apparently made so many max bets with over 100 accounts from the same ip and had a 100% winrate in our matches" ^^^ evidence.
2015-06-02 19:30
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2 replies
#344
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Australia DFM-
Invalid, there is no evidence this bettor was connected to any of these players in any way.
2015-06-03 04:03
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1 reply
#353
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United States spaceghost--
lol
2015-06-03 16:57
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#355
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Germany Dok1
CSGOLounge has never been known to be professional...
2015-06-03 18:07
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#25
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Costa Rica Gomezio
No one cares. Have fun getting 20 viewers max on all of your matches.
2015-06-02 04:22
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Innocent the first time???? WOT? They're talking about myrevenge vs volgare, right? How the fuck can they say they are innocent there. O_o Csgolounge even confirmed one of myr players maxbet the opponents...
2015-06-02 04:25
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#29
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Finland  jOELZ
I don't really believe this to be honest ;D they can easily get paid by that bettor through third party program and valve & csgl can't get any info about it.
2015-06-02 04:25
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8 replies
#54
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United States pyrocentury
Right? Don't use steam messaging system, get paid through paypal or in person. These guys could be doing a number of things that Steam and Lounge wouldn't have jurisdiction to investigate.
2015-06-02 05:08
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3 replies
#59
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Finland  jOELZ
Indeed
2015-06-02 05:34
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That doesn't mean we should ban them LOL. Technically ANYBODY could be doing this. But there is no proof so no reason to ban my friend.
2015-06-02 18:17
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1 reply
#319
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United States pyrocentury
The reason is there, just no evidence. That's why lounge is just did what they could within their power, which is to remove any of their games from lounge.
2015-06-02 19:44
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#104
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Austria dnL0)_(0
yeye, well did u get paid for the throw against rndm swedes?
2015-06-02 07:55
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2 replies
#110
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Finland  jOELZ
how much?
2015-06-02 08:00
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1 reply
#111
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Austria dnL0)_(0
yeah how much did u make?
2015-06-02 08:03
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#115
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World kottschhhh
and you chose to not believe them for what reason exactly? you have a personal agenda against them? just wondering. saying you dont believe them is a strong statement since you're basically saying they are criminals! :)
2015-06-02 08:21
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#32
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Germany OverTime!
Such a shame that oskarish is in a team with such asses.
2015-06-02 04:29
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#33
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ZywOo | 
Zimbabwe Vizions
i believe them Kappa
2015-06-02 04:29
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The thing they forgot to mention is, they don't discuss the bets on steam and they are paid on paypal real money for the throw, Not skins. Ask for their paypals if you want to show their innocence. Of course they won't do that. Believe me or not, I know this to be fact.
2015-06-02 04:31
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8 replies
#93
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Peru unfaithful93
If we see some PayPal info, these guys will RIP.
2015-06-02 07:15
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#123
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Germany citb77
if they show paypal, the get sued not just by hltv useres, i mean thats a crime even in germany.
2015-06-02 08:42
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6 replies
#206
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Iceland fatboislim
why would it be a crime to show your own paypal history?
2015-06-02 12:10
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5 replies
#232
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Germany lloyd6077
no but if it would show us some proof they matchfixed, then thats a crime "even in germany"
2015-06-02 13:38
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4 replies
#275
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Germany Clemens
The problem is i dont think that here in germany someone is caring about a cs go bet
2015-06-02 15:59
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3 replies
#285
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Germany lloyd6077
ne privatperson kann die auch anklagen :D
2015-06-02 16:38
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2 replies
#297
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Germany citb77
and i would but i didnt bet on them these little cocksuckers, im drunk thats why i m sway
2015-06-02 17:33
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1 reply
#298
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RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077
so kawaii
2015-06-02 17:34
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#37
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United States BigAK
oskarish quick jump ship to rallen's team
2015-06-02 04:34
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1 reply
Rallens team also threw at least the first game vs Kfish a few days ago, and I'm not kidding.
2015-06-02 04:35
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#42
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Germany 1train
Confused as to why teams care if people are betting on their games.
2015-06-02 04:42
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3 replies
#137
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ZywOo | 
France Lifant
No betting on ur match -> u can't throw for skins.
2015-06-02 09:13
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1 reply
#289
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Finland lydman
+1
2015-06-02 17:02
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One of the reasons is publicity.
2015-06-02 11:25
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#43
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Finland Nurmis
Disqualify them from Acer Predator Masters already.
2015-06-02 04:44
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#44
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United States d3vx
Someone who is innocent doesn't react with a 8+ paragraph statement just to say 'we are innocent'..
2015-06-02 04:49
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Or tell you to look at their betting history or IPs...when they were paid on paypal to throw ;d
2015-06-02 04:52
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Yes they do, because if they issued a small or no response at all people would think they did it and they are living with it.
2015-06-02 06:38
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5 replies
#106
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United States d3vx
You obviously haven't had much experience confronting people about things that you knew they were guilty of and seeing how they responded.. People almost ALWAYS overreact when they have something to hide; like, 99% of the time. Does it make ANY sense at all that they are pleading for the person who made the bets to contact them, personally? Thing about that one. What reason could they possibly have for wanting to directly intervene in the investigation? Example: you are a suspect in a murder, just by the fact of being in the room it happened in. A police statement says they are working with a key witness who saw it happen. Now, you KNOW you are innocent. Do you post an 8 paragraph statement to the internet/news/etc explaining every detail about how and why it wasn't you? And then, even worse, ask for that key witness to contact you directly? Of course not! The only reason you would want to talk to that person before anyone else would be to destroy evidence, get stories straight, etc. I.E. only guilt on at least some level would motivate that desire.
2015-06-02 07:55
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are u involved in a murder case, cuz ur response is pretty long xdddd
2015-06-02 08:42
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1 reply
#130
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United States d3vx
Shhh! I'm innocent.
2015-06-02 08:49
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#164
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France pheno71
Dont respond => they are guilty Respond in 2 lines => they are guilty Respond with a walltext => they are guilty Hmmm ok
2015-06-02 09:59
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1 reply
#231
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United States d3vx
No, you missed the point. A paragraph would have been fine. Here, i'll google how to tell people are lying for you and post something relevant from someone whose job it is to spot a liar.. Took me 2 seconds, here: Dr. Lillian Glass, a behavioral analyst and body language expert who has worked with the FBI on unmasking signals of deception, says when trying to figure out if someone is lying, you first need to understand how the person normally acts. ... 5. They provide too much information. "When someone goes on and on and gives you too much information — information that is not requested and especially an excess of details — there is a very high probability that he or she is not telling you the truth," writes Glass. "Liars often talk a lot because they are hoping that, with all their talking and seeming openness, others will believe them."
2015-06-02 13:35
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#140
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Germany Zure
What if they were innocent in the MyRevenge case (which is probably true, no one really knows). They also got banned in this case. If I would be banned while being innocent and half a year later the same thing begins to happen again, ofc I would react with a long statement aswell. I'm not judging them by saying they are innocent or guilty, but your argument is something a kid would say ;)
2015-06-02 09:20
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2 replies
#272
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Germany Herp
2015-06-02 15:55
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#357
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United States d3vx
No, it's actually what an FBI expert on signals of deception DID say. But, you know, MAYBE she is a kid? At heart? YOLO! There ya go, something a kid would say.
2015-06-04 12:14
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#47
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k0mplex | 
Europe R4as0n
When i have a good morning a always placing some extra 25k$ to some random 4th tier team. Why not?
2015-06-02 04:55
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1 reply
#150
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Belgium maxwellz
haha :D
2015-06-02 09:27
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#49
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Denmark Beckk
OK
2015-06-02 04:55
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#50
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United Kingdom alexE-
doesn't matter, toni and oskarish both cheating, really obviously aswell. Get banned, get rekt and get fucked.
2015-06-02 04:56
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#51
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Sweden hagganity
Idk why but i have hard time trusting CSGOLounge sometimes
2015-06-02 05:04
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#52
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World bjc_sp
^[since]+&
2015-06-02 05:05
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#55
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France cedd
Toni, why does it matter so much to you if your matches are on csgolounge or not ? seems fishy.
2015-06-02 05:11
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5 replies
#84
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Portugal acidq
this make sense
2015-06-02 06:46
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#152
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Belgium maxwellz
Because it brings viewers :)
2015-06-02 09:30
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#159
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kendo | 
Latvia kendo-
It's not about the matches on lounge, it's about the reputation of the organization and players. Use logic before you post nonsense, please.
2015-06-02 09:49
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#162
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Germany Chris Walker
I don't think it's about being on CSGL or not, it's about justice (being called a thrower for nothing). Btw not taking sides.
2015-06-02 09:52
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cos of publicity :)
2015-06-02 11:27
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#58
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Germany Rosal
Interesting how they care so much about that ban if they dont bet on csgl. Selfbusted haha
2015-06-02 05:23
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tl;dr
2015-06-02 05:37
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2 replies
#61
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Australia ZeGerman27
You got to it first....>-<
2015-06-02 05:43
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#249
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Australia BCP
tl;dr killerfish are being accused of throwing matches when they lose and accused of cheating when they win just because theres some kid who has 100% bet accuracy when it comes to their games. csgolongue banned killerfish and killerfish are asking for unban because they are saying they are innocent and there isnt even any proof. csgolongue didnt even say who the better is, how many games he bet, who else does he bet on etc.
2015-06-02 14:33
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easy to investigate if killerfish actually want to be transparent - get their bank statements for the past year bet that will reveal all their gay german porn subscriptions, payments for their private cheats and the bribes they've taken for throws illusion of transparency isn't transparency toni you mongoloid
2015-06-02 05:47
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3 replies
#135
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Slovakia The Edge
Well, they would probably use separate bank accs for that, so that would still not prove anything.
2015-06-02 09:04
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2 replies
#153
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United Kingdom cabdriver
They got caught twice. We are dealing here with some super stupid species of people. So I really doubt they did.
2015-06-02 09:30
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1 reply
#246
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Denmark diOnysos
+1
2015-06-02 14:21
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#63
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World idinahui
leave killerfish alone
2015-06-02 05:56
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#64
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United States $ven$k
cant remember which player but one of the kfish guys have a knife named after a known NA bettor so ya. this statement is bullshit.
2015-06-02 05:58
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2 replies
#78
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World 65 WAT
so your conclusion is that this statement must be a lie because of the nametag on one of their player's knife?
2015-06-02 06:30
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1 reply
#79
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United States $ven$k
"we have no ties with him/her."
2015-06-02 06:32
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#65
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United States T_Maister
How to not get caught be CSGOLounge: Steps: 1. Find a relative, send him a letter or contact him on phone (so players can say its an invasion of privacy if someone checks it) to tell them about a throw, or get a the relative's friend who happens to play CS to bet on them or against them. 2. Get winnings to OPSkins, sell all of the skins, make PayPal money off of transactions and redeem. 3. Transfer money to the PayPal, then to bank. 4. If organization questions it, all they have to do is say checking their bank is unnecessary because skins are apparently unequal to money.
2015-06-02 06:03
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#66
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World MatthewCarry
Typicalgerman get caught and still lyin
2015-06-02 06:03
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#67
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United Kingdom Giepettho
tl:dr version?
2015-06-02 06:07
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2 replies
#251
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Australia BCP
tl;dr killerfish are being accused of throwing matches when they lose and accused of cheating when they win just because theres some kid who has 100% bet accuracy when it comes to their games. csgolongue banned killerfish and killerfish are asking for unban because they are saying they are innocent and there isnt even any proof. csgolongue didnt even say who the better is, how many games he bet, who else does he bet on etc.
2015-06-02 14:34
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1 reply
#279
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United Kingdom Giepettho
you da real mvp
2015-06-02 16:15
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#71
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Dosia | 
North America kqpr0
lol
2015-06-02 06:16
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#72
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Estonia Snowwyy
2015-06-02 06:22
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#74
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Other Frizaa
Fuck them
2015-06-02 06:27
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#77
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masq | 
United States Kermit879
I call bullshit. again.
2015-06-02 06:30
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#82
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World MatthewCarry
They talked with the bettor on skype not on steam and then valve cant investigate it. And they get the money in paypal or bitcoin or any other shit. Vavle and csgl cant investigate this. Thats why they said so easily "no proof". Very known in the german scene how robsen and co work.
2015-06-02 06:45
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#85
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tarik | 
United States jjh
human scum
2015-06-02 06:52
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The disturbing part is I know of at least 2 more T2 teams who have 100% thrown as well. Paid with money the same as these.
2015-06-02 06:59
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#128
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Germany citb77
+1
2015-06-02 08:46
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#89
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Romania Nikolas47
Dr; lol
2015-06-02 07:07
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#92
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United States iceweaselbz
How exactly do you have 100% winning percent when you win a game. Does this mean the other team is throwing and letting Killerfish win? The only way you can have 100% correct betting percentage is if your the best team in the world who can never lose unless you throw. I believe them.
2015-06-02 07:14
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#94
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Finland KamiPenguin
Not to say if they are innocent or not but lol at all the people here who are like "why they care about lounge" etc. *sigh*. Obviously they care about their reputation, who will take them seriously if they aren't proven innocent anyway (many still won't tho I guess D:...), it might even lead to them having problems with their organization too.
2015-06-02 07:15
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#96
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United States EdenGamin
NEVER bet on t3 or lower, Killerfish are around tier 4 soooo... who gives a flying fuck, keep them banned forever, only germans who you can trust are Mouz (penta too when they become better)
2015-06-02 07:19
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#101
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Turkey sharnV
than ban every tier4-5 teams just keep the best. nice logic from murican
2015-06-02 07:49
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1 reply
#103
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United States EdenGamin
Nahh, I'm saying it's stupid to bet on t3 or lower and it's obvious these dudes are scum, obvious. Thanks for trying to put stupid words in my mouth bud.
2015-06-02 07:51
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#138
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ZywOo | 
France Lifant
+1 but Penta is love, kRYSTAL would never throw.
2015-06-02 09:16
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#97
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TRAVIS | 
Sweden jodmod
These guys just went professional in throwing for skins not even CSGOlounge can find enough evidence
2015-06-02 07:24
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#98
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World MatthewCarry
Hope volgare banned too
2015-06-02 07:31
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#102
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World c0baincss
Try dodging this fat ass gap-between-his-teeth r0bs3n.
2015-06-02 07:50
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#108
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Albania CLACKZiLLA-
Killerfish banned but volgare still not :D
2015-06-02 07:58
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1 reply
they won on purpose... they should be also banned
2015-06-02 08:31
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#112
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Portugal Kapa1337
What a stupid lier,I had Tahsin on my steam and I knew he was always throwing matches on purpose,Kfish always wanted matches to look closer in order to hide the throw
2015-06-02 08:08
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#118
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France Nogara
This statement is full of bullshit, this is some next level of throwing (having the skin hold from somebody else, he sells them and give them money, so the skin never come in one of the player account)
2015-06-02 08:32
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#119
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World norther23
H O W M U C H O O - - - O O W - W - W - W M - - M - - M U - U - U - U C C - - - C C H O W M U C H
2015-06-02 08:34
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2 replies
#156
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Belgium maxwellz
I would write my how much cube for you but I'm 100% sure I would get banned for pastabuse again
2015-06-02 09:32
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1 reply
#157
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World norther23
yeah, I failed, edit button did not work, so gr8
2015-06-02 09:38
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#122
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Germany whateverest
lol again? these guys are a shame. ban them everywhere and permanently, they wasted 2 chances.
2015-06-02 08:40
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#125
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United States dingusman
Sounds pretty obvious when they were the underdogs by a large margin they cheated and when they were the faves they threw. If I guy wins 100% with 100 account on this one team it's pretty clear they are involved.
2015-06-02 08:42
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#126
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China elite423
Good to hear it. Ban more shitty teams pls.
2015-06-02 08:43
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#127
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United States dingusman
So sad that cs go betting has ruined the game. Only bet on lans!
2015-06-02 08:43
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1 reply
#132
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Germany citb77
ithink even a 5k lan is not enough to prevent this, as long there is ways to get 50k+ from one match... also why is lounge even allow 100 bets from one ip its kinda obvious something is going on there
2015-06-02 08:51
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#129
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Portugal danielmota8
expected
2015-06-02 08:47
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#131
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway ForfA
CSGL sad about having to do so many payouts, rip :(
2015-06-02 08:50
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#141
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United Kingdom Jonex
The article stated that the original ban made at the beginning of the year remains unresolved, and yet KILLERFISH state they were found to be innocent? Which one is it?
2015-06-02 09:22
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#142
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tabseN | 
France shoxAttorney
BIG TIME ALERT "My team and I kindly ask CSGOLounge to provide more information about this bettor: for example, the number of our matches he bet on and preferably his name, so that we can get in contact with him/Her." later though "Furthermore, we were also winning matches against good teams in which this crazy bettor was betting on us." nt TONI
2015-06-02 09:22
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#146
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United Kingdom Jonex
The real problem is that even if they found this bettor, there's no way they can prove he isn't affiliated with them. If I was scamming my own fans, I would distance myself from the actual person placing the bets as well.
2015-06-02 09:24
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#144
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United Kingdom D1rtyBoy
I am sorry, CSGO Lounge is not stopping the team from playing in matches or tournaments or accused them of hacking. All they have said is that they wont be hosting their games for betting on CSGO Lounge. So what is the big deal??? Less chance of DDOS, less excuses to throw, more reasons to play well and make a difference.
2015-06-02 09:24
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#149
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United Kingdom Jonex
The big deal is that when people think of team KILLERFISH, they think of players who can't be trusted to play a fair match.
2015-06-02 09:27
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1 reply
#241
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Sweden Aw fuk bye
you mean the reputation they already had when these news where irrelevant?
2015-06-02 14:07
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#163
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Panama Tyson Grey
RIP Tier 10000 team
2015-06-02 09:58
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#166
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria DSL-
they should be banned from cs scene, not just lounge and some events
2015-06-02 10:04
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#167
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Germany TONI`
We are also ready to provide CSGOLounge with our personal PayPal and bank account transaction history, so we can proof that we didn't make any profit with the unknown bettor, since we haven't ever been in contact with this guy. I should have added this in the statement. Why we care so much being on CSGOLounge? Without CSGOLounge Matches got not even 10% of its viewers, we won't get any invites anymore because of this bad reputation and why should we leave a serious accusation like this when we are innocent? Time will tell the truth guys, after all that I look forward to see an apology.
2015-06-02 10:06
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#169
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Czech Republic ceptor
nt
2015-06-02 10:16
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#170
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World MatthewCarry
Its 1minute to register a paypal account dude. You dont need to get the money to your main paypal. Lyin again and you cant able to stop it.
2015-06-02 10:17
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#168
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Indonesia OnlineJW
TL,DR They want to get back to CSGL so they can throw again
2015-06-02 10:09
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#172
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany whateverest
100% throw trying to knife, buying negev and shit. fk off you losers, no one wants you back.
2015-06-02 10:21
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#175
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World hauskamies
I have a feeling that they cheat also
2015-06-02 10:33
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#176
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Slovakia RParadoX
clear
2015-06-02 10:36
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#177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Iceland G2.ScreaM
VP Ban?
2015-06-02 10:37
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m.facebook.com/myRevenge.eV/posts/757315.. Your old orga knew better. "But yesterday night the management received some screenshots, which clearly proof that players who performed against Volgare told their friends on facebook and steam that they are going to throw the game and suggested them to bet against the own Team. That's why we got seperated from the team this morning."
2015-06-02 10:40
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2 replies
got em
2015-06-02 10:48
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#314
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Montenegro jackALL
but they are innocennnnnnnnnnnnnt. Hell, maybe Toni isn't even in on it himself but certainly other players of his team. Deserved for rekt.
2015-06-02 18:56
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#181
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United Kingdom 4llsopp
Normal german cheats to be expected really lol
2015-06-02 10:55
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#182
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World ExKey
ofc they didnt bet against themselves cuz they`r not so stupid.Some1 just paid money to them for throwing.
2015-06-02 10:57
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#183
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Pakistan Deemu
Killer " fishy "
2015-06-02 10:59
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#274
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Germany Herp
haha :D
2015-06-02 15:58
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#185
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Russia jobs!
nt guys
2015-06-02 11:07
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#187
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Romania Cuntstantin
I am the crazy bettor, my plan worked, I got you banned, just for the lulz
2015-06-02 11:22
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1 reply
#210
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Europe Agawein
+1
2015-06-02 12:26
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#194
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Australia decap
the org is in on it for sure
2015-06-02 11:35
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#196
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World MatthewCarry
Hey its me, your bettor.
2015-06-02 11:36
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#197
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia Kedo2
I don't believe in coincidences
2015-06-02 11:42
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#198
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Panama Tyson Grey
You get what you deserve.
2015-06-02 11:42
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#201
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo
nice try fucking retards, why would you even care ? throwing scum and possible cheaters. germans and turks enough said
2015-06-02 11:52
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#202
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Netherlands manhacker
jajajajaj blablabla prove our innocence my ass. got caught and you should burn for this, bums... trying to win a few euro by giving up your hobby :) idiots i hope you get banned by valve
2015-06-02 11:53
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#203
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Europe selbi
lol
2015-06-02 12:00
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#204
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World alepov
"Either we are throwing or we are cheating. It is a bit crazy, is it not?" No, lol, that's exactly what scum would do. Cheat to win the occasional underdog game and lose the rest so it doesn't get too obvious that they're cheating.
2015-06-02 12:04
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#205
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World yeahok
nice try germans
2015-06-02 12:08
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#207
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Zana | 
Portugal sennsei
Who do you think you are to ask for his name? CSGL is in charge of the investigation, you have no business interfering.
2015-06-02 12:13
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#211
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World runnr
statement is bullshit, the fact that over 100 accounts maxbetting from the same IP is just not happening without knowing the team will win or loose
2015-06-02 12:34
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#215
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Faroe Islands vatarn
It's one of those matchfixing guys who was fucked by OnlineBots when they screw him over. These guys will tell you to lose on purpose so he can win tens of thousands of $ and split it in some way with you. I'm sure all players of KILLERFISH threw and received a fair amount of skins, probably a thousand dollars worth each. Also TONI is the scum of CS with his blatant cheating, probably paying the monthly fee for his cheats using the money from skins. They are a mediocre onliner team, they will never get to the top so at least make it worh while you can is it? Your statement made me laugh and I'm sure you know who that bettor is, sadly you can't give him away or else he would drag you along with him. If CSGL decide to unban you I'll say they're complete morons.BTW you did a nice job covering up your tracks but don't underestimate Valve, they'll catch you eventually.
2015-06-02 12:56
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#216
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World numberguy1
lol nice bullshit excuses, can you please make a blog about your teammate killerfish toni using wallhack aswell and tell me about that hahahah
2015-06-02 12:58
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#219
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KARMY | 
Ireland skend
scumbag players and scumbag org. gg
2015-06-02 13:11
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#220
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Lithuania TyrannosaurusREKT
TL; DR anyone?
2015-06-02 13:12
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2 replies
#252
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Australia BCP
tl;dr killerfish are being accused of throwing matches when they lose and accused of cheating when they win just because theres some kid who has 100% bet accuracy when it comes to their games. csgolongue banned killerfish and killerfish are asking for unban because they are saying they are innocent and there isnt even any proof. csgolongue didnt even say who the better is, how many games he bet, who else does he bet on etc.
2015-06-02 14:35
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#254
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Lithuania TyrannosaurusREKT
thx
2015-06-02 14:42
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#221
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United States dingusman
Killerfish are scumbags ban them all for life!
2015-06-02 13:15
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German team... nuff said. throwing games, getting paid for it using real money so its untraceable. probably also hacking
2015-06-02 13:15
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#223
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United States dingusman
Germans have never won shit. No wars and no cs! keep cheating you douchbags!
2015-06-02 13:16
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and murica? ;) won NOTHING aswell germany was rly good in 1.6 while murica was struggling
2015-06-02 17:53
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#224
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dingusman
They need Hitler back to smack some sense in to them.
2015-06-02 13:16
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#225
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dingusman
To bad valve does not ban all betting sites but I guess that's not possible. Betting has ruined cs. Only bet on lans.
2015-06-02 13:17
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#226
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dingusman
Isn't betting illegal anyway? I can't play poker online from America because it's illegal and banned. How can we gamble on cs? Someone needs to report it.
2015-06-02 13:18
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#228
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dingusman
I was just in a game with a spin botter and two of my teamates said he was legit. They were calling me a noob. That's how crap is these days. If you ain't cheating you ain't trying.
2015-06-02 13:23
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#229
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United States dingusman
The minute the word smurf came up then all the cheaters say they are smurfs and all the retards just assume the cheaters are smurfs.
2015-06-02 13:24
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#234
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United Kingdom -Joe
Fuck off
2015-06-02 13:53
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#238
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany davidthek1ng
Tldr
2015-06-02 14:00
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2 replies
#253
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Australia BCP
tl;dr killerfish are being accused of throwing matches when they lose and accused of cheating when they win just because theres some kid who has 100% bet accuracy when it comes to their games. csgolongue banned killerfish and killerfish are asking for unban because they are saying they are innocent and there isnt even any proof. csgolongue didnt even say who the better is, how many games he bet, who else does he bet on etc.
2015-06-02 14:36
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1 reply
#280
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Germany davidthek1ng
thx captain here is your medal
2015-06-02 16:16
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#239
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Sweden kLIMAX
"Either we are throwing or we are cheating. It is a bit crazy, is it not?" Welcome to Interwebs. Dont forget that everyone has fucked each others moms as well -_- This is so childish.
2015-06-02 14:03
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8 replies
#270
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Germany Herp
you do not mind if i borrow your mom today again? Kappa
2015-06-02 15:49
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7 replies
#281
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden kLIMAX
Yeah; you germans have that wierd MILF fetish god knows what she will be in for a treat today...
2015-06-02 16:20
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6 replies
#284
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Germany Herp
and what kind of fetish do you guys have? meatballs? oh god
2015-06-02 16:30
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5 replies
#303
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Sweden kLIMAX
Better then some old fucking grandma nailing a 15 year old you sick jew gasing fuck ;x
2015-06-02 17:46
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4 replies
#324
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Germany Herp
for someone having such sick thoughts you didnt got mine. weird
2015-06-02 20:19
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3 replies
#334
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Sweden kLIMAX
Im just saying; you have issues if you like some fat old fart fucking a youngster kid hardcore porn. Thats just sick, ya feel?
2015-06-02 21:14
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2 replies
#338
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Germany Herp
i am not sure if you wanna point out that child pornography is wrong or that taste can not differ? at least you didnt hinted into gay porn yet :D
2015-06-02 23:06
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1 reply
#339
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Sweden kLIMAX
Like I just said; its a standard in your country ;x Im not ready to discuss german hardcore gay porn yet. ;x
2015-06-02 23:11
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#244
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Germany davidthek1ng
sv_brotherwasbetting "1"
2015-06-02 14:09
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1 reply
#250
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Denmark diOnysos
sv_brotherwasbetting 1 no need for the + ;)
2015-06-02 14:33
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#247
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World LOLintro
+100 bets with 100 accuracy, but it can't be traced back to you.. you could have easily got money deposits or paypal deposits how the fuck would valve know?
2015-06-02 14:30
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4 replies
#257
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Australia BCP
where does it say there was 100+ bets? am i missing something?
2015-06-02 14:49
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3 replies
#258
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World LOLintro
"with over 100 accounts max betting either for or against them - and winning the bet with 100% accuracy." on the csgolounge topic.
2015-06-02 14:55
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1 reply
#265
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Australia BCP
i thought by 100 bets you meant 100 matches. yeah it was 100 accounts, but that isnt that ridiculous if it was only 3-4 matches, but csgolounge wont say how many matches this is in...
2015-06-02 15:24
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#259
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Dosia | 
Europe ff3
hltv.org/news/15083-killerfish-banned-fr.. "What we found was very suspicious activity, with over 100 accounts max betting either for or against them - and winning the bet with 100% accuracy."
2015-06-02 14:56
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#248
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United Kingdom vL-
i am u'r bettor. just pure luck guys.. unban germans. KAPPA
2015-06-02 14:32
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#260
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia inkix
why they should even care about lounge ban? they do not get anything from that but reputation
2015-06-02 14:59
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#276
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Bangladesh Jutzhy
cuz if they get banned from there they HAS been match fixing, and then volvo will ban them from every event
2015-06-02 16:00
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To be honest, they should also investigate ESC. I know they lost their first game vs Kfish on purpose.
2015-06-02 15:01
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#262
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World eNjiin
#joke - it was my grandma... *innocent eyes*
2015-06-02 15:02
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#268
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Germany Herp
the only thing he replaced in that exusement letter is "i did not cheat" with "i did not bet" :D
2015-06-02 15:44
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#277
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia @sL4Mtv
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA ! BAN! Please!
2015-06-02 16:08
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#278
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World electricfr0g
maybe you shouldnt throw for skins then this wouldnt be a problem
2015-06-02 16:13
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#286
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden ilikesmurf
play.esea.net/users/513621 still no games since esea update, why? CHEATERS.
2015-06-02 16:48
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#287
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Snax | 
Poland MIX352
2015-06-02 16:52
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#288
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Cyprus eClipz-AU
This is just disgusting, trying to deny a blatantly obvious scam. But then, cheaters NEVER admit to cheating, what's new.
2015-06-02 17:00
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#290
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North America oldshoe
what a crock of shit. they were busted cold, each of them is guilty as fuck of match-fixing.
2015-06-02 17:05
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"Moreover, we kindly ask everyone who reads this to provide information about the person behind the crazy bets or maybe the bettor himself/herself can help us out by saying we have no ties with him/her. We would be highly grateful for it." whoever is he, don't do anything, just let those fags get banned =DDDDD
2015-06-02 17:33
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#307
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Afghanistan papa tyrant
At some point they are right if there is no evidence how can you blame the organization for throwing the match.
2015-06-02 17:57
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#308
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Switzerland Sylleo
in other esports germans are totally fine but in csgo it's like they try their hardest to do fishy things wtf
2015-06-02 18:00
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#309
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United Kingdom panther.
you have like 2 turks in your team, one polak and 2 germans lmao yes definitely innocent
2015-06-02 18:11
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#311
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Portugal CHEMyyy
sure :)
2015-06-02 18:18
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#312
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World LeHartx
How about you return our skins first?
2015-06-02 18:39
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That's long text with bullshit written all over it
2015-06-02 18:51
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#315
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Australia SUNSPY
CSGL can't really do anything except this. Proof or no proof, the circumstances are far too convenient to give the benefit of the doubt, they have a responsibility to protect people who use the site to bet. Germany.. home of countless hackers and writers of malicious software. The history of German malware for profit goes back to the very beginning of profiting from such online crimes.. only the Russian online crime gangs have a deeper involvement. Given this history, it is EXTREMELY LIKELY German and Russian groups have branched out into other online crime for profit, and CSGO betting existing is like a huge welcoming party for profit based crime. OVER HERE, EASY MONEY, NO ANTIVIRUS TO EVADE. Only basic anonymity knowledge required. Sadly, this is still only the beginning of the story. Let's say it's true, it was them. So they got caught ? no proof, no punishment. BUT now they know they pushed the limit, and what caused the activity to be spotted. Next step for our dirty criminals is simple.. hide it better.. not 100 on same IP.. not 100% win record, take some losses to look legit.. and well, then we're F***ED. Well done to CSGL.. but this is more worrying than positive if you ask me.
2015-06-02 19:01
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#330
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Germany citb77
u know whats funny u never in ur little kangoroolife played with a fucking german, so why the fuck u talk about countless hackers and shit, and ur german and russians conspiracy fuck und can take in ur ass spit out again and swallow. dont fuck around in hltv ok and stick to the topic fucking throwers need to be punished and not and countries.
2015-06-02 20:50
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#332
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Germany citb77
any i mean i cant edit atm, still ur post is retarded anyway.
2015-06-02 20:54
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#340
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Australia SUNSPY
lol ok, this is FACTUAL information you could easily research and verify yourself, but have a cry and get angry all you like
2015-06-02 23:29
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#322
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Latvia Aridus
This is CSGL better logic: if a team loses it's throwing, if it wins it's hacking
2015-06-02 20:04
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#323
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Canada `Conspiracy
i remember that thrown game with myRevenge on cbble. It was an obvious throw, i remember them buying negevs and spraying like they just wanted the game to end so they can get their skins.
2015-06-02 20:15
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#326
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United States VACcusations
I did not have financial relations with that bettor.
2015-06-02 20:31
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#327
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Portugal dracø
I stopped reading when he said that they were innocent the first time. Fuck this, everyone is in denial about everything. KQLY never cheated, area never cheated, emilio's friend cheated on his account, iBP never throw, epsilon never throw...... So many innocent people getting punished for no reason by evil volvo.... HO WAIT NOP :D
2015-06-02 20:31
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i bet that bettor is supex0. quote is 85-15
2015-06-02 20:37
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#329
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Sweden Karakar
things like this should count as fraud
2015-06-02 20:41
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#335
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United Kingdom phlox
"we want to get in contact with the bettor" why? so you can get your share of the skins from the matches you threw? :D
2015-06-02 21:17
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#343
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Sweden nETEX
can we say that this is actually fraud?
2015-06-03 02:36
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so many obvious cheaters in their roaster, how can they even act surprised?
2015-06-03 16:19
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#356
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Netherlands Quakzz
+1
2015-06-03 21:04
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#354
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United States WilbuRsson
It's not crazy.
2015-06-03 17:25
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#358
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Norway SUPERKALLE
Sorry for stealing your skins kids, just too pro at betting
2015-06-04 16:41
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#362
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Brazil kadotA
bump it!
2015-07-30 17:21
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