adreN handed two day ban by ESEA

Liquid player Eric "adreN" Hoag has been handed a two-day ban from ESEA for a "Pro League Conduct Policy Violation," in this case excessive pausing of an official ESEA ESL Pro League match.

In a world where DDOS attacks are a recurring and daily phenomenon, in-game pauses occasionally go beyond their desired limit as affected players seek ways to reconnect to the game.

However, with tournaments such as the ESEA ESL Pro League increasingly depending on streamlined schedules in order to appeal to viewers who are expecting on-time matches, the amount of leeway given to pauses is usually only limited to ones relating to a tactical nature.

The ESEA League rules themselves specify teams being "limited to 1 pause per each regulation period and 1 pause per each overtime set," but it is not fully clear if these rules directly extend to the Pro League itself.


adreN receives a two-day ban from ESEA 

In any case, issues relating to DDOS and match pauses came to an unfortunate head last night, when a match between Liquid and eLevate saw Liquid player Kyle "⁠flowsicK⁠" Mendez suffer from connection issues.

As a result, Liquid captain Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag attempted to pause the match more than once, which eLevate agreed to in word. However, ESEA decided to ban the player for the pauses, which can be seen on adreN's profile as a "Pro league Conduct Policy Violation."

*Update* ESEA have come forward with clarification on the matter, indicating that the issue and reason for the ban was Liquid receiving a warning during communication with the game admin that they would not be able to pause anymore. The team chose to ignore the warning and go ahead with another pause, and hence the punitive action from ESEA.

United States Kyle 'flowsicK' Mendez
Kyle 'flowsicK' Mendez
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
58
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.71
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
119
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.65
#1
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Andorra Joshr2824
lol.
2015-06-10 15:33
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World Ek0noma
I thought it said "Pro League Conduct Policy Vacation" lelelel
2015-06-10 15:48
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i thought it said "Pro League Conduct Policy Violation" oh yea its right, yea i can read, i must be one of the few in hltv who can properly read!
2015-06-10 16:21
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#177
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World Ek0noma
Are you stupid? Learn some basics about how the brain intercepts things while reading. It's not like i have downs like you and take an hour to read the text. I just skimmed through.
2015-06-10 17:10
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#187
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I guess youre the one who is stupid, if u take things on hltv serious. lelelel
2015-06-10 17:24
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#189
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World Ek0noma
Same
2015-06-10 17:28
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2015-06-10 17:31
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2015-06-10 17:48
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#258
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Germany Jesusplays
You know that there is a huge difference between skimming and reading? And not everybody needs a long time to actually read something. BTW why are you so aggressive?
2015-06-10 23:24
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#261
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World Ek0noma
Bitch get your jesusshit out of here.
2015-06-10 23:57
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Germany Jesusplays
Pray the Lord he is our savior! Kappa
2015-06-11 18:36
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You sir play too much CSGO
2015-06-10 16:50
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#206
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Mexico hu5h
More like not enooooooough
2015-06-10 17:57
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#238
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North America tyyche
First offense will result in a 48 hour Professional Conduct Policy ban, which will prevent you from visiting any website in the ESEA Network, but will allow you to participate in league matches, unless stated otherwise.
2015-06-10 20:28
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#252
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World Ek0noma
No one asked? And it's pretty obvious what it means.
2015-06-10 22:16
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Finland Lleeroy
Follow the rules next time.
2015-06-10 15:33
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nt lpkane
2015-06-10 15:38
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haha
2015-06-10 16:36
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ahahahahaha
2015-06-10 17:35
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nt ipkane
2015-06-10 16:14
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#136
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United States smiggles
Its LPKANE for those who cant read english
2015-06-10 16:37
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#145
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United Kingdom Malto
well when its put lpkane and ipkane with certain fonts it looks exactly the same, plus no one gives a flying fuck about his little nickname.
2015-06-10 16:45
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#154
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nt lpkane
2015-06-10 16:48
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#159
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United Kingdom hando
*coin
2015-06-10 16:51
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#173
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Sweden Busfisk
Ok, LPCOIN
2015-06-10 17:06
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#176
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France YLQK
why say Lpkane when its easier to say ipkane. Also names usually start with a big letter, and he writes his name lpkane which looks like Ipkane, so its not our fault
2015-06-10 17:09
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#210
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United States ODIEkriss!
Its ipkane, because he has a small dick .i.
2015-06-10 18:18
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Finland Smoonah
who?
2015-06-11 17:18
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#109
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Norway Hektisk
Rules are made to be broken.
2015-06-10 16:15
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like people
2015-06-10 16:34
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Serbia chupe
+1
2015-06-10 16:34
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meant*
2015-06-10 16:42
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#178
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France YLQK
Rules are made to be broken.
2015-06-10 17:10
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Pretty sure you can say "made". Such a stupid thing to correct anyways...
2015-06-10 17:21
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#222
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United States sishbabe
Funny thing is the phrase is "Rules are made to be broken" dude is prolly a fake flagger trying to look legit :/
2015-06-10 19:12
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#230
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Norway Hektisk
Sry bro, proud norwegian. <--- Legit as fuck.
2015-06-10 19:46
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Think he meant the other guy :))
2015-06-10 21:09
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#243
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Norway Hektisk
I kinda realized that after I posted it, and I cant edit it now :( Sishbabe, i didnt mean to be so offensive <3
2015-06-10 21:16
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#251
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United States sishbabe
Its k, Im used to taking shit on HLTV lmao <3
2015-06-10 22:14
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Yeah dude, but luckily most of the native English speaking countries are not like the rest of the EUs who ALWAYS have to pinpoint mistakes in others English grammar to make themselves look better.
2015-06-10 21:04
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+1
2015-06-10 22:07
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kek 1
2015-06-10 15:33
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rekt
2015-06-10 15:33
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full yolo
2015-06-10 15:33
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1s
2015-06-10 15:33
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:D
2015-06-10 16:05
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xD
2015-06-10 16:15
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rip in ripperonis
2015-06-10 17:46
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world. kek
2015-06-10 18:34
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Naughty.
2015-06-10 15:34
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Walrus
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France Twicky
XD This joke.
2015-06-10 15:34
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Wow lol
2015-06-10 15:34
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Sweden Sanoii
This is becomming a fucking joke, DDOS rules online-CS.
2015-06-10 15:35
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Betting rules online-CS
2015-06-10 15:54
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Does anyone know if this ever went anywhere? reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/38..
2015-06-10 16:25
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+1
2015-06-11 00:16
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E S E A B O Y S
2015-06-10 15:35
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Fifflaren | 
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Shiit
2015-06-10 15:35
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Brunei NotTrolling
ESEA is becoming a joke lol
2015-06-10 15:36
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It always was.
2015-06-10 16:49
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top kek
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ESEA get a grip
2015-06-10 15:36
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rekt
2015-06-10 15:36
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#25
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United States sishbabe
ESEA proving what morons they are once again.
2015-06-10 15:36
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#26
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Europe HeicPy
ahahahaha cant pause game ok im leaving
2015-06-10 15:36
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ESEA pull your head out of your fat ass.
2015-06-10 15:37
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Morocco urachicho
Rofl.. pls
2015-06-10 15:37
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World CaptainAllen
nice joke ESEA
2015-06-10 15:38
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Netherlands s4uce-1g-
omg report valve plz
2015-06-10 15:38
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Finland YoYoMa
E S E A is a complete and utter joke
2015-06-10 15:38
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#33
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World sauti
omg two days :(((
2015-06-10 15:38
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#43
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Bangladesh Spuff
2 days=2 important games, so yea is a big deal, if you thing about it
2015-06-10 15:41
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forsaken | 
Liechtenstein thedalking
-esea +vac4
2015-06-10 15:38
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#35
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Faroe Islands theejay
ESEA is like a country in the middle-east.
2015-06-10 15:38
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Poland whybanbro
GG CHEATER
2015-06-10 15:39
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France Aarma
This is actually unfair. I watch the match, and it is unfair.
2015-06-10 15:40
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#42
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Italy maapo
2 days ban haha fkin jokers
2015-06-10 15:40
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#108
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2 important matchs mate they gonna lose the league cuz of this probably
2015-06-10 16:15
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#158
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United States Tsyolin
If you were smart and did your research you would know Liquid doesn't have any games within the next two days. Nice try though.
2015-06-10 16:51
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#272
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Finland Smoonah
where's your genie now Aladdin
2015-06-11 17:20
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rest in bagels
2015-06-10 15:43
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United States CiToX
LOL ESEA, WHAT A JOKE!
2015-06-10 15:43
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Denmark cabronnn
esea rulez
2015-06-10 15:44
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Portugal JTV08
Adren NOOB , no one cares
2015-06-10 15:44
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#49
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Denmark partydodger
What is the point of two days ban? Better take 10% away from their prize pool, of course, if they win.
2015-06-10 15:44
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#93
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Europe ortisss
Yeah man... let's take 10% of their prize pool away for pausing the game. Do you think before you type such dribble?
2015-06-10 16:06
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#50
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Sweden ohmygodlaser
wow
2015-06-10 15:44
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Yeah lets start banning people because of DDoS pauses when both teams are alright with it. The DDoSers are gonna keep doing it and now when they can ban people with it. It will only be worse. Gj ESEA.
2015-06-10 15:45
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#52
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Czech Republic Tunky
Why do they ban adreN when he was not the reason for the pausing? He just acted as a team captain.
2015-06-10 15:46
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#66
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United States lnflnlty
he got a ban for pausing multiple times after an admin told him to stop. the ban is a "professional conduct" ban. disobeying an admin is not professional conduct
2015-06-10 15:50
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#53
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Argentina Sanhuan
Nice I hate AdreN anyway. He should stop being so cocky about the game being broken when his team is much more broken - at his command.
2015-06-10 15:46
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#79
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Canada Kane,
Where is he cocky
2015-06-10 15:58
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#115
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Germany Chris Walker
He just said the ladders on train are broken, which is true.
2015-06-10 16:24
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#135
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Canada Kane,
Misread that haha. Regardless if the team is broken, a bug as big as that in a game like cs should never exist. Anybody has the right to be cocky about a game breaking bug.
2015-06-10 16:37
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tr1p | 
United States brento
how so? haven't played the map yet
2015-06-10 18:58
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Germany Chris Walker
2015-06-10 19:00
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#221
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tr1p | 
United States brento
oh yes, i did hear about this. thought you meant something wrong with movement on ladders
2015-06-10 19:07
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#164
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United Kingdom hando
"He should stop being so cocky about the game being broken" - the game IS broken, fuckwit.
2015-06-10 16:54
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Is it the games problem that they can't win against european teams than? It seems many teams work around the "broken" game. This is why Liquid are so trash, being led by a person who doesn't see the issue within themselves and blame the game. See about the ban... its unfair to ban him because of DDoS issues. And what is sad is that there wouldn't be the trouble with pauses if CS wasn't controlled by a large moneymarket. Trying to keep up with streaming schedules means less viewership therefore less people will will be introduced to the sponsors, sponsors not getting their quota, streams not getting their quota less money etc. I didn't explain it well but in-short CS is just one huge market and that's all it is.
2015-06-11 15:05
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Denmark OIJM8
oh yeah so wanting to improve the game makes him cocky. nice.
2015-06-10 17:39
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#55
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Sweden schopaunhaur
respect the rules bad person adreN! !
2015-06-10 15:47
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#56
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Canada Captain Black
money>anything
2015-06-10 15:47
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#57
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Luxembourg OfficialJsP
so he got ban for trying to pause when one of the players in his team had network issues? if so that is some bs
2015-06-10 15:48
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#58
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New Zealand Tiffany!
Okay, so when we get so many pauses and breaks during the games you guys lose your shit over it. When there is a rule present to prevent that and is actually enforced you guys cry about it too. There is no pleasing you guys, there is always something wrong to cry about. He got banned for whole 2 days. Calm yourselves.
2015-06-10 15:48
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Not the same people. But this only encourages DDoSers and is plain stupid when both teams were okey with it.
2015-06-10 15:50
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#104
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Canada BananaTugger
They have two maps scheduled in the league over the next two days that would decide playoff spots.
2015-06-10 16:14
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#155
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New Zealand Tiffany!
Next ESEA-related match for adreN is on 16th of june iirc
2015-06-10 16:49
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Cyprus JoOoOohNy
main news really?
2015-06-10 15:48
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#61
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United States lnflnlty
directly disobeyed an admin. deserved.
2015-06-10 15:49
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#62
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Finland jayss
What a bastard, you get stoned to death in some countries for that, he's lucky.
2015-06-10 15:49
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Denmark partydodger
'stoned to deaht' damnnn..ganja <3333333333333333
2015-06-10 15:52
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#64
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
ESEA is a joke. What they did to keyd is also bs
2015-06-10 15:50
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#77
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North America Foxaika
It's not the job of the league to protect teams, to be fair. That's the job of the team. I understand the frustration, but it's not as if ESEA has some sort of obligation to all the teams in that regard. It's up to Keyd to protect themselves and make sure they can't receive DDOS attacks. Now I am not saying ESEA is right-I don't think that necessarily. But I can't see anything here as "wrong" in regards to obligations they have towards anyone. They're just doing their jobs essentially.
2015-06-10 15:56
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#86
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
That's not what I'm talking about. Keyd played more than 10 matches before that, and they never needed to delay any of them. FalleN just wanted to delay 2 matches from yesterday and play them today, because they got DDoS protection today(or they'll get in a few hours). Just 2 matches, just 1 day difference, but ESEA didn't agree
2015-06-10 16:02
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#90
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North America Foxaika
And that's my point. ESEA has no obligation to agree to delays even if they haven't had delays prior just because Keyd can't protect their players.
2015-06-10 16:04
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#97
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Yeah, like it would hurt someone to delay 2 matches for 1 day later... they have no obligation, that's right, but what kind of problem would they have accepting it? That would just benefit the league
2015-06-10 16:09
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#140
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North America Foxaika
They keep a tight schedule. They value that more than more than one individual team's problem that is that team's responsibility.
2015-06-10 16:39
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#149
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Yeah, good job from them, they're just getting hate from the community and the pros doing the things they're doing. 1 day delay wouldn't hurt them, it would only benefit the league, since they would have fair matches instead of a match forfeited after only 3 rounds, we couldn't even see which team was better just because ESEA didn't accept a 24h delay
2015-06-10 16:47
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#163
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North America Foxaika
Let's put it this way: there are four more matches to be played tonight. To do what you suggest would mean reshuffling other matches(Keyd is playing tonight as well), playing earlier(might not be easily done if you want a stream), or perhaps at best playing two at once. That's a lot of hassle over one team having an issue completely unrelated to ESEA itself.
2015-06-10 16:54
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#167
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Is this all because they wouldn't play all games on ESEA's stream? They could play with no ESEA stream, bida would stream these 2 games instead. They didn't even played vs. tempo, only 3 rounds. We didn't even had a game
2015-06-10 16:59
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#244
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United States iLzudE
Yea so lets have some random guy stream it, who more likely than not will speak Portuguese and then they lose have their audience. Oh im sure esea and their sponsors would agree to that....
2015-06-10 21:26
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#248
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Better than having a match forfeited on the 3rd round, there's not even audience
2015-06-10 21:46
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#123
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Switzerland CHEDEL
The fact is if the other team is ok to delay there's no problem involved.
2015-06-10 16:31
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#137
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North America Foxaika
It throws off the scheduling of other matches, so there isn't no problem whatsoever.
2015-06-10 16:38
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#193
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Switzerland CHEDEL
No really because if those 2 teams delays their match to a "safe" day...
2015-06-10 17:32
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1 reply
#208
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North America Foxaika
There aren't just those two teams playing on any given day. They would need to allocate resources to getting those games played that they wouldn't otherwise.
2015-06-10 18:01
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deserved ban, totally correct decision
2015-06-10 15:52
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#70
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United States hammerdt2
I think the rules need to be readdressed. They were probably written long before skin betting became huge & ddos became a bigger issue than it was.
2015-06-10 15:53
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#71
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North America Foxaika
Not sure there's much to complain about here. He broke the rules, and I can't see it as wrong that they want to keep a schedule. If he did not know the rules I could see, but I believe he was informed.
2015-06-10 15:53
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#73
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden Xoxogossipgirl
rules are rules, so I guess if no ban then we can take acid, kill people, blow up USA. no that's no the rules so accept it and move on ugly kid.
2015-06-10 15:54
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#74
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GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
If someone on your team is getting ddosed play 4v5 or we will ban you for pause the match. Please receive our best regards, ESEA
2015-06-10 15:54
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n1 joke from ESEA
2015-06-10 15:56
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#76
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Macau tarpenseen
ESEA showed again how bad company they are. Forcing teams to play 4v5 for sake of no delays. Every team gets DDOSed or they was, and its not their fault. True to be told, they can protect themselfs, but not every provider have option for dynamic ip, or not every provider will help in the same minute. Ipcoin being ipcoin
2015-06-10 15:56
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#142
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Canada eoNsGOD
protect yourself from ddos, its not hard.
2015-06-10 16:43
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3 replies
#147
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Macau tarpenseen
Ofc it is, thats why pro players got ddosed almost every game, no matter what team
2015-06-10 16:46
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1 reply
#245
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United States iLzudE
To be honest its happened to mostly teams/players that are new to the scene. Freak,flowsick,keyd. People who probably havent had to deal with ddos before.
2015-06-10 21:29
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#247
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Europe  Skaarj
It is easy against script kiddos. If protection against serious DDOS would be easy then there would be no need for whole farm solutions etc. ESEA procedure make serious DDOS profitable in case of high stakes matches.
2015-06-10 21:34
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#78
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France Orcoh
Very smart admins.
2015-06-10 15:57
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#80
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Europe nigguh20
How can we continue to support ESEA... Bitcoining greedy bastards
2015-06-10 15:59
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#81
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Tunisia arslN1g
fuck the rules.
2015-06-10 15:59
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#82
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Finland AsssauuuhDUH
Kinda bullshit ban.
2015-06-10 15:59
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#84
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Slovakia Dragon[E5]
Looks like an illogical decision at first glance, but if this happened on a regular basis it would force players to learn how to protect themselves against DDoS attacks. I mean there's no other way of enforcing this.
2015-06-10 16:00
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#85
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Finland Sizz - <3 ex-LGB
fuck ESEA fuck lpkane
2015-06-10 16:01
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#87
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fRoD | 
Other KlNG
zero fucks given
2015-06-10 16:03
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#88
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United Kingdom tomtmh
esea bois
2015-06-10 16:03
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#89
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Tunisia wizzem
deserved.. :)
2015-06-10 16:03
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#92
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Denmark Cred1ble
... With this logic, then you might wanna ban people's just by getting ddosed.
2015-06-10 16:06
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#94
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Australia gh0stname
The ban is an incentive for players to have proper DDoS protection.
2015-06-10 16:07
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#96
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Belgium ViKOZAURUS
WHAT? 2 DAYS? WHATS HE GONNA DO NOW
2015-06-10 16:08
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#112
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MrFuckYou | 
United States lybrel
Miss two important games?
2015-06-10 16:19
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1 reply
#131
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Belgium ViKOZAURUS
I was jumping on the bandwagon
2015-06-10 16:35
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#98
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World n0n0n0
ddosers wins !
2015-06-10 16:09
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#100
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Denmark Wolfztar
Follow the rules - its not up to ESEA to protect the players from DDOS. Does it suck that players gets ddosed? Of course it does. But if they want to play on a top level, they have to protect themselves. Tournaments cannot adhere to the players, when they want to create a more professional scene and in the long run try to become mainstream. Fuck delays, we all hate them and more often than not, its the organizers that make the mistakes, but the players can do their part.
2015-06-10 16:10
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#101
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Brazil mth^
ESEA = joke
2015-06-10 16:12
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#102
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bangladesh l12Hastatus
I don't know who is more stupid - leagues banning for pauses or retards who manage to get DDoS'd.
2015-06-10 16:12
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#103
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World RuThLeSSiNHO
one more time i convinced that ESEA full of morons
2015-06-10 16:13
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#116
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Norway splooge
ESEA is fucking stupid.
2015-06-10 16:24
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#117
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
Lithuania despotz
"Pro League Conduct Policy Violation," k bitcoin miners. fucking stupid NA league
2015-06-10 16:25
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#119
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Ireland DuckMoriarty
...But he paused so a teammate could rejoin the game . GG ESEA. GG.
2015-06-10 16:26
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#120
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United Kingdom endtime
esea=one big mother trucing joke
2015-06-10 16:28
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#122
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Denmark OPINIONATOR
expected, esea always has and done this stuff
2015-06-10 16:29
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#124
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Europe  Skaarj
Heh, nice way to make DDOS official way to destroy matches... GJ. Go ahead, stick longer to ESEA to see more such pictures.
2015-06-10 16:31
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#125
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World MatthewCarry
i want to see a tutorial by him to how to pause. i would pay for it 50bucks
2015-06-10 16:31
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#132
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Sweden Roin
So.. this means someone can DDOS someone 2 days before and get them banned for the match the DDOSer really wants to bet on.. Enforcment of this rule with result in atleast 3 things 1) more DDoS attacks 2) Teams not playing with their full rooster due to bans 3) playing 4v5, 3v5 etc due getting a stand-in to join or the victim to reconnect i really hope NA teams boycott ESEA if they dont revoke this ban
2015-06-10 16:36
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#133
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World LXP
typical americans and dont say I'm a cheater, I'm not even German and never used one so stfu in advance :)
2015-06-10 16:36
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#138
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Europe nima1
hahahaha esea ... /facepalm
2015-06-10 16:39
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#144
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Moldova MajesticGL
lol
2015-06-10 16:44
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Bit stupid. The fact elevate were alright with it means there should be no problem.
2015-06-10 16:45
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#148
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World electricfr0g
dumb bcoz this ultimately supports the victim blaming ideology which is repulsive and should never be accepted.
2015-06-10 16:46
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#150
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Sweden Chris =DD
ESEA is a Fokin joke mate
2015-06-10 16:47
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The teams should make an arrangement not to play that shitty league anymore. But they are too greedy for the money. So they shouldnt complain.
2015-06-10 16:48
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#153
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Norway billson
I actually like this. There is way too many problems with pro players all the time. Its your job, get your stuff straight.
2015-06-10 16:48
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#162
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Europe  Skaarj
Its easy to defend against script kiddies, it will be impossible to defend against coordinated attacks if outcome is predictable by rules and can give money.
2015-06-10 16:53
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#160
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World Scova
Oh no two day ban for pausing waow
2015-06-10 16:52
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#165
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Finland fr0zeNid
lolololololololol
2015-06-10 16:56
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#166
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Canada fragM
just be thankful Hitler didn't hand you a longer ban
2015-06-10 16:56
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#168
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Slovakia Matt1s
CEVO>ESEA
2015-06-10 16:59
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#169
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
k0mplex | 
Europe R4as0n
Just wonder how many bitcoins ESEA client could mine for 2 days?
2015-06-10 17:03
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#170
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World idinahui
esea is a joke
2015-06-10 17:03
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#171
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway coolguy123
srsly? banning someone for essentially just getting ddosed? fuck CSGOL and bad job by esea ;//////
2015-06-10 17:03
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#172
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Canada fragM
I honestly think cevo just needs to improve a few things and they could become the next esea in terms of quality
2015-06-10 17:06
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#175
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Portugal unnamed_99
ESEA ONE MORE FUCKUP - joke league
2015-06-10 17:09
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#179
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France YLQK
what a yoke DanielsGame
2015-06-10 17:11
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#180
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany erazer_cs
Bought it once, was bullshit in my opinion. Dont like this league, would either pay for FaceIt.
2015-06-10 17:11
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#181
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Portugal skantra
WHAT A JOKE!
2015-06-10 17:12
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#182
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany Heiliger Bimbam
ESEA retard platform confirmed. and LPKANE is the leader of the retards. retard-leader confirmed.
2015-06-10 17:14
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#183
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Korea jetrooo
Couldn't agree more. Next up: 15 min buffer for games to start, if one team fails to ready up -> defwin for the opposing teams -> RIP delays
2015-06-10 17:15
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#184
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NEO | 
Poland LGf
is this really news worthy ?
2015-06-10 17:18
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The only true solution to this problem is to find the DDOSers and hang them by their dick. I was going to say testicles but we all know they don't have any.
2015-06-10 17:21
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#188
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Aleksib | 
Finland Kanezki
expected,,mmn...
2015-06-10 17:26
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#194
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United States boots
haha esea has no chill
2015-06-10 17:34
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#202
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teco
esea=stalin
2015-06-10 17:48
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Hooray let's ban the victims of the ddos --> more ddos attacks --> more players banned for pausing --> what NA scene were u talking abt again?
2015-06-10 17:49
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#204
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kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
This is not a scrim, who cares if some silly boys are "ok" with it, pathetic!
2015-06-10 17:53
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#205
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Germany DerMitDemBlunt
lol more power to the DDoSers I guess ... now if a ddos kicks a player once off the game and the team pauses till he reconnects and than he gets kicked again they either play 4v5 or teamcaptain gets banned for 2 matches ... what a joke
2015-06-10 17:56
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#207
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
what is worse for viewers and sportsmanship, few min pause or 4v5 rape fest? esea best
2015-06-10 18:01
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#209
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Brazil EddieG
Well law is a law, but this one is clearly fucked up. If guys are playing a match let them play it, both sides agreed on the pause because clearly they want fair play.
2015-06-10 18:07
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#213
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Netherlands blwJESUSxxx
incompetent esea admins ftw!
2015-06-10 18:33
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#216
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England azrl
Fact is he broke the rules, so he gets banned. Whether or not the rule needs to be changed is a different story.
2015-06-10 18:45
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#235
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
and envy paused games in same day without any bans, dont see anyone complaining about that
2015-06-10 20:03
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#219
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United States Gowy
esea powerplays continue
2015-06-10 19:03
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#220
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Norway t k z
Expected
2015-06-10 19:03
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#223
Faceit level 7 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dracø
LOL this was fucking retarded xD
2015-06-10 19:12
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#224
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United States [jayfour]
ESEA and FACEIT are complete rubbish.
2015-06-10 19:12
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#225
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Sweden Zitron
Stupid admins this league is so bad.
2015-06-10 19:19
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#226
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Denmark aNzooo
adreN is a boss :D
2015-06-10 19:25
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#227
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United States darkun
players are constantly bad mouthing the admins.. I think its fair for ESEA to set an example every now and then.
2015-06-10 19:35
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#229
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Europe  Skaarj
Really? Adren is that kind of guy? Anyway, rules are rules, right, but this kind of rule is dangerous for CS scene. This is grist to the mill for DDOSers.
2015-06-10 19:44
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#228
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Turkey LU7HER1No
rip
2015-06-10 19:36
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#231
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Portugal Hugo9191
>2014+1 >Still using paid botnets to play It's like you like to get your rights inflicted.
2015-06-10 19:50
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#232
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Australia schterlo
esea sucks anyway, teams should band together and boycott esea until they rewrite their bad rules
2015-06-10 19:58
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#234
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Reunion ramowarr
+1
2015-06-10 20:01
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#233
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World Jolly Roger
So Adren is banned until 6/12/2015? Gonna be two long days until December
2015-06-10 20:00
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#255
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Sweden mightY007
im not sure if you know, anyway in US its mm/dd/yyyy format.
2015-06-10 22:47
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#239
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North America tyyche
First offense will result in a 48 hour Professional Conduct Policy ban, which will prevent you from visiting any website in the ESEA Network, but will allow you to participate in league matches, unless stated otherwise.
2015-06-10 20:29
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#242
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United States LCB_KK
esea is becoming a facism
2015-06-10 21:09
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#246
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United States iLzudE
Im pretty sure he can still play in matches
2015-06-10 21:32
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#249
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Brazil luaudesign
Will the team have to play any matches while adren is in the gulag?
2015-06-10 22:00
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#253
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Switzerland terygas
stupid badren
2015-06-10 22:43
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#254
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Canada neverc
esea is about to become the new cpl, fuck the team, fuck the prizepool, fuck the viewr lets put all the money in ceo pocket
2015-06-10 22:44
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#256
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Monsen | 
Norway Piesso
bitcoins
2015-06-10 22:57
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#268
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World jestic
yea and fuck the subscribers' gpu while their at it too.
2015-06-11 07:51
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#257
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Sweden nETEX
haha ok? :D
2015-06-10 22:58
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#259
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Brazil luaudesign
EAEA
2015-06-10 23:27
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#263
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Brazil dUdUb44-
suffered attacks in several matches
2015-06-11 01:04
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#264
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Ant1ka | 
Poland Abanks
2 pause=2 days ban. ez
2015-06-11 01:06
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#265
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Australia GO_Tor
LOL boohoo, take it like a man you whiny bish
2015-06-11 01:35
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#267
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World Havok69
Wow. Sure, ESEA has no obligations to protect the teams, but this is a bit too much. Like people have said, if they're just script kiddies, sure DDoS protection isn't hard. But if they're serious DDoSers, big matches with ALOT at stake can have it's flow disrupted by this, on top of that, with that ban all they did was encourage the DDoSers to do it more when the stakes are high. It's extremely unfair that they even got a ban to begin with, but the fact that they did it only because they have a schedule to keep, their attitude being "Fuck the teams, we have too many matches". That's NOT how you run such a big tournament, on top of the teams in it being unhappy, even the fans/people watching feel the same way. That's how you mess up faith in the organizers. Sure it'll go on because there's no way the teams will leave willingly just because of that(plus the big prize pool), but for future tournaments, I'm sure i'm not the only one hoping that ESEA *NEVER* holds another one and that organizers like ESL do not partner up with them ever again. It's just like holding any event, the organizers might just be there to enforce the rules, but when you just don't give a single fuck even when people are there to compete in your event and are getting screwed-up by external human-made issues, EVERYONE gets pissed off. Even the viewers. It's the same thing with KEYD, from how some people said it, all they asked for was to move the matches 1 day later, yet it was apparently too hard for them. Anyone know what that's called? *LAZY*. Basically it would take some manpower and/or planning to move some matches around etc sure, but you know you're a SHITTY organizer when you don't give a damn what happens to TEAMS coming to play in YOUR event. "No responsibility for what happens to teams during the tournament?" That's what irresponsible, lazy, money-faced, power-abusing assholes will say. I feel like I'm watching some TV show, some organizers invite people to their tournament at a big house. A group arrives, people who disliked that group also came to the house, started fucking with them in like 10 different ways, totally messing their experience there up. The group complains to the organizers about it and all they could say was "That's non of our business, m8. You have to take care of yourselves and any problem you might encounter while here, we're not here to give a shit about you, we just care about the $$$". Like seriously? Classic scumbag responses. That is NO WAY to act as hosts of an event, no matter what might be the case. I mean I'm not even in it and I can just feel the rage, the utter anger and just all the disappointment for how the hosts are treating them. Instead of trying to help them against people disrupting against matches, they're turning around and screw with the team even further. Wow, just, Wooow. Now that I have a clear view of what kinda organization ESEA are like, I'd just like to say fuck them and their money-facedly uncaring ways, and whatever the hell they stand for, and I hope they go Bankrupt in the near future, so pros who've made it this far in their career, won't have to get buttfucked by them, ever again. Unbelievable. I've got nothing to do with this and even I feel the anger seeing how the pro players are treated. Fuck's sake.
2015-06-11 07:43
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#269
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United States Klowney
get paused bruh
2015-06-11 14:40
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