stfN unbanned; returns to UX Gaming

26-6-2015 19:05

Stefan "stfN" Seier has returned to UX Gaming after his ESL ban was overturned.

Stefan "⁠stfN⁠" Seier had come under fire after being banned by ESL pending the outcome of an investigation into claims that he had use an alternate account to play on ESL, which goes against the German tournament organiser's rules.

Despite maintaining his innocent, the player was immediately given his marching orders by UX Gaming, whose Competitive Gaming Operator, Thomas "tomseN" Zwietasch, admitted to being "disappointed" to see the organisation involved in an alleged fraud case.

stfN has earned his place back in the team

Earlier on Friday, UX Gaming completed their active roster by recruiting former myRevenge player Bahadir "⁠j1n⁠" Dilbas. However, after learning that stfN's ban had been revoked they gave the ex-MnM player his place back in the squad.

"I am glad that the issue got resolved and that I can start competing with my team again;" Seier told HLTV.org.

UX Gaming, who finished second in the last EPS Summer Cup, now have the following lineup:

Sebastian "⁠xenn⁠" Hoch

Christian "⁠reamux⁠" Wolf

Kevin "⁠keev⁠" Bartholomäus

Oliver Maximilian "Minato" Heck

Sebastian "⁠xenn⁠" Hoch
Christian "⁠reamux⁠" Wolf
Kevin "⁠keev⁠" Bartholomäus
Oliver Maximilian "Minato" Heck
Stefan "⁠stfN⁠" Seier

Bahadir "⁠j1n⁠" Dilbas (backup)

gl bro'

2015-06-26 19:05

cheater

16 replies

He is legit you retard. thats why he got unbanned

2015-06-26 19:41

3 replies

He just had good hax, he is fucking german dude, everyone knows that germans are too good to be legit. Kappa

2015-06-26 20:24

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nokappa

2015-06-26 21:17

noKappa

2015-06-27 00:28

ESL set an absolutely horrible precedent. Something that should never have happened. There is a saying "innocent until proven guilty". This should NEVER happen. When you get banned you can only get banned because whatever you were doing wrong was done without any reasonable doubt. Obviously they weren't 100% certain if they unbanned him 1 day later. I would love to see ESL open up and apologize and assure us this will never happen again but I highly doubt this will happen... Your comment proves this perfectly.

2015-06-26 21:13

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ESL basicly only suspended him for the time of the ongoing investigation. He was never actualy banned, only the community is too stupid to realize that. The steps taken by ESL were OK in my mind. On the other hand the reaction of UX was completely retarded.

2015-06-26 22:07

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2015-06-27 00:12

Exactly.. dont know anything about j1n but more than likely he left his team to join these guys and now has no spot at all since stfn is back and probably wouldnt be welcomed back to his old team and will have to sit on the UX bench. What a cockup

2015-06-27 01:24

That's exactly what I meant. +1

2015-06-27 10:08

i was free agent , so everythings fine :D

2015-06-27 13:32

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nice guy j1n. I think it's more that UX gaming didn't handle this properly.

2015-06-27 20:02

Agreed, UX ridiculed themselves.

2015-06-27 04:52

by MIRAA "stfN handed ESL ban"

2015-06-27 22:56

You can't take everything literaly. When you read those articles, then you understand that it wasn't any "real" BAN.

2015-06-28 10:25

tomseN is a retard, he should apologize to stfN

2015-06-27 08:45

stupido

2015-06-26 21:51

WHAT A JOKE

nice

dcp esl

2015-06-26 19:06

funny how fast everyone was to judge

;Ddd

2015-06-26 19:07

that's just human nature

2015-06-26 19:08

"the lottery" by shirley jackson is a good short story on this topic

2015-06-26 19:18

expected cuz german

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Yes, expected to get VAC banned next week.

but france have more vac's...

2015-06-26 19:49

yeah german vac but french more vaccest

2015-06-26 19:58

cant be. german only hax noone ever hax. no nations are hacking only german.

2015-06-27 02:21

lol rekt everyone

Nice! :)

Lol

nice joke. we know he's cheating

Can you tell us how are you so sure Sherloc Holmes?

2015-06-26 19:10

What about hard evidence?

2015-06-26 19:11

br > na

bad b8 m8 i rate 0.5/8

2015-06-26 20:25

ESL at its best. Banning someone for 10 years to revoke it 2 days later. gg.

Pending investigation a player is always banned until proven innocent or until the issue at hand is settled.

7 replies

Well because of that he is "marked" now and everyone is calling him a cheater or whatsoever. They basically ruined his "career".

2015-06-26 19:24

Hes proven innocent and thus should still be trusted even if we take his past into account

2015-06-26 19:34

That's actually incorrect! You are always innocent until proven guilty, like real life law.. ESL = noobs

2015-06-26 20:21

But you can still be imprisoned for the time of ongoing investigation or trial.

2015-06-26 22:10

Fucking stupid, that's what it is.

2015-06-26 20:37

I stated this in many comments before, the randomness of esl admin decisions is rly unprofessional.

2015-06-27 00:10

nice, guilty until proven innocent maybe esl should consider moving to north korea then

2015-06-26 21:06

lool hes cheating and is prooven

where ?

2015-06-27 13:04

vocaroo.com/i/s0Ijb2g66JpL

cheater cheater pumpkin eater

expected unban cus esl german, still cheater

expected, inb4 cheat ban tho

xDDDDDDDD <3 glad for him :)

kebab eater got benched so fast LOLz

same situation happend to Gamers2

yay my second favorite player is back <333

2015-06-26 19:09

whos your favorite player? I have NO idea.

2015-06-26 20:01

Domyyy

2015-06-26 20:02

it's probably cArn

2015-06-27 12:01

minato is kzy

German

hurensohn unbanned

well was German are by default cheaters ,he will be banned later this year dont worry !

welcome back

<3 stfN

ESL worst org EU.

WAAAZUUUP now haters? Suck Ba... :D

fcking joke paid for unban

As every German - innocent!

#NOTGUILTY

ESL is at it again.

2015-06-26 19:13

I still dont have a clue who it is?

2015-06-26 19:14

who the fucking cares, who are those randoms

2015-06-26 19:15

better than you 100x times

glad that most of community can feel retarded now for judging without any kind of evidence just because they live a miserable life

2015-06-26 19:17

i bet they don't even remember, most hltv users have the braincapacity of a goldfish..

2015-06-27 12:02

hltv - 0 germans - 1

ESL gj by destroying his reputation. It remembers me of the witch hunts hundreds of years ago... Excuse by ESL? Wait for it,

2015-06-26 19:19

"We knew from the start about the rumours and the history of every player on the team" "Nevertheless, we still decided to take them under a contract." "We thus part ways with Stefan with immediate effect." N1 Move Ux Gaming

good for him, still very dodgy player

LOlll, I would sya fuck that org. If you aint with me when I'm under attack why should you be with me when I'm not.

2015-06-26 19:20

hmm.. Good luck if he wasnt guilty it seems

2015-06-26 19:21

Germans 1 ESL 0

well, ESL is german. xD

Let me fix it: Cheater 1 ESL 0

2015-06-26 19:45

Is kzy really changing is nickname?

2015-06-26 19:22

why da fuq did the dude go back to his team, considering how quick they were to wash their hands of him, woulda be like "yeahhh fuck you bitches, I knew i was innocent"

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It was the organisation and not the players who kicked him

2015-06-26 19:25

Yeah but the ORG should have at least waited to see the outcome of his appeal 1st before just kicking him instantly

2015-06-26 19:28

fair point, but coming back to the team is coming back to the organisation so my point is still valid. the team coulda said some shit to keep him in it or been like "i know hes legit, so I won't play for you, if he gets booted" you know.

2015-06-26 19:29

contracts

2015-06-26 20:23

That sucks, especially when they booted you without even getting it definitively proven first.

2015-06-27 11:58

kzy wtf dude xD

awkward

wtf, UX fucking pussies for releasing him in the first place

2015-06-26 19:33

who?

2015-06-26 19:37

Great PR, how I can pay for that news about my person?

2015-06-26 19:50

+1 xD

2015-06-26 20:35

best promotion ever now he's famous

2015-06-26 19:54

Nice PR stunt. xD

germans always clean

stop posting about tier 4/tier 5 teams hltv

2015-06-26 20:04

i still think he cheats :)

2015-06-26 20:15

stfu Kappa

UX knew about his actions all along. Don't be fools.

2015-06-26 20:22

"Despite maintaining his innocence" or "Despite maintaining, he's innocent? Not a mix of the two :/

2015-06-26 20:28

so many typos

lol

2015-06-26 20:36

gj valve

2015-06-26 20:39

let's unban KQLY and smn plz VOLVO

2015-06-26 20:40

2015-06-26 20:43

If I was stfN I wouldn't feel very secure in this organisation - they threw him under the bus with no real evidence

LOL germans organisation fire their players as soon as a rumour come , they didnt even wait for the outcome of the investigation .. no faith in their players , what a shame on the org !

2015-06-26 20:44

i love that anyone can pay their way out of a ban :D yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

2015-06-26 20:48

lol alt to check hack status and offsets, germans =] lol

2015-06-26 20:50

I really don't know why the org kicked a player if he wasn't really banned, now they got 6 players..

2015-06-26 20:53

might as well unban sF and kqly

2015-06-26 20:58

dat witchunt!!

2015-06-26 21:02

So does this article really sum up all the info on this situation? Don't they feel any need to say why they banned him and why in the end he was exonerated? IOt looks like they were either paid off or they just took the players word for it; i.e. "It was my little brother!"

2015-06-26 21:05

I highly suggest you take a look at my structured analysis on that topic, portraying the facts. hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=821410

2015-06-27 01:40

hahaha nice :D

2015-06-26 21:15

If I recall this isnt the first quick unban by ESL. Is someone taking the law to their own hands in there again or what?

2015-06-26 21:38

One more ESL blunder I guess, although I rather they make mistakes then let cheaters walk freely. Apart from a few days, nothing really happened in this incident and Im happy for the outcome.

2015-06-26 21:46

Rofl, so unprofessional from the orga. I hope he got some compensation for coming back.

2015-06-26 21:59

It was an ESL suspension. And UX Gaming org was acting retarded, you suspend your player, you don't kick him during the investigation you fucking morons.

2015-06-26 23:07

maybe KQLY and swag get unbanned next?

2015-06-27 00:26

I don't really get how anyone would want to hold on to a player who cheated his whole life competitively. But yeah, at least 1 more guy of his team is, too, and everyone knows. check out the facts on stfNs ban history here: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=821410

2015-06-27 01:42