ESL ESEA Pro League team list

ESL and ESEA have released the final list of participants for the second edition of the ESL ESEA Pro League.

Scheduled to start on September 15, the ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2 will once again feature 24 teams across two divisions. These teams will duke it out for the chance to attend the offline finals, which will take place inside ESL's Los Angeles arena, later this year.

Just like in the opening season, which saw fnatic take home the trophy and the first prize of $100,000, a total of $500,000 will be given away during the course of the season.


fnatic won the first ESL ESEA Pro League season

Below you can find the final list of participants for ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2:

Europe North America
Sweden fnatic United States Cloud9
Poland Virtus.pro Brazil Luminosity
Denmark Team SoloMid Europe Mythic
France EnVyUs United States CLG
Sweden Ninjas in Pyjamas United States Team Liquid
Null element HellRaisers United States compLexity
Null element Natus Vincere United States Sponsorless
Denmark dignitas United States 3sUP
France Titan United States ex-LunatiK
Denmark SK Gaming United States EnemyGG
Germany mousesports United States Method
Germany PENTA Sports Canada FolloweSports
#2
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Portugal darKelele
fnatic n1 again
2015-08-27 17:03
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#80
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mzinho | 
World clipse
didnt renegades move to US?
2015-08-27 17:18
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#94
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World HungDaddy
Nope, not yet. Yam said on stream they'll move in maybe a couple of weeks.
2015-08-27 17:20
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9 replies
#314
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Russia DilDoFaggins
and why would they do that if they cant play in the eepl?
2015-08-27 20:16
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8 replies
#370
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Ireland DuckMoriarty
Renegades gaming house.
2015-08-27 22:24
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#386
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Russia DilDoFaggins
and why not go there earlier to compete in the eepl?
2015-08-27 23:54
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#391
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Ireland DuckMoriarty
Many reasons. One was that ESL/ESEA didn't let them compete for the spot eLevate left when they disbanded. Another was that they were scheduled to go then. Who knows? ¯\_(o.o)_/¯
2015-08-28 00:06
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#394
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Russia DilDoFaggins
well thats kinda shitty then since all they have left to do in NA then is play scrims against mostly shit opponents and compete in cevo if they made it there. faceit too, but they coulda done that from AUS.
2015-08-28 00:14
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#400
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Austria Megrr
League rules would not really allow them to anyways unless they play in (I think)
2015-08-28 01:57
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1 reply
#432
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Ireland DuckMoriarty
eLevate folded so their spot in the league was up for grabs. Rather than give it to a play off between Renegades or another team, they gave it to FolloweSports.com instead... I have a feeling they're going straight down this season as well...
2015-08-28 12:01
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#420
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Australia Vayatris
I think the teams in NA are going to be better practice than the ones in AUS. Cloud9, Luminosity are undoubtedly better than the Australian teams they prac against and CLG is probably better than them too. Even the next 3-4 teams are going to be better than most of the teams Renegades normally plays in AUS. They also said that part of the reason for moving to NA for a few months is that it will make it easier and less expensive for them to travel to more events (presumably European events).
2015-08-28 07:45
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#422
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Australia BCP
ty for info
2015-08-28 07:51
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#251
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Estonia RcwzX
Brazilian team in NA LOL. Brazilia is in South America
2015-08-27 18:55
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7 replies
#263
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North America Jumz
Go back to the rock you've been for the last couple years
2015-08-27 19:09
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1 reply
#272
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United Kingdom fr057
Looool + 100000
2015-08-27 19:15
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#309
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suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie
They moved to NA a couple months ago to improve and mainly because of ESL ESEA league as well .. It doesn't matter where Brazil is, but the location of where the team is living, in this case Luminosity are living in USA ..
2015-08-27 20:11
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2 replies
#315
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Russia DilDoFaggins
i thought they went back to brazil after the season doe :O
2015-08-27 20:16
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1 reply
#320
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United States Fleshleaves
They did, but they'll have to move back again to NA to compete.
2015-08-27 20:20
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#339
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Latvia shtx
Omg, geography skills @ silver rank? :D or we all got you wrong! :|
2015-08-27 20:42
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1 reply
#346
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United States MikulkaCS
He is right, Brazil is in South America, it's just that the entire team moved to Las Angeles, California to be able to play in the ESEA ESL Pro League.
2015-08-27 21:13
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#435
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Australia cuntroll
+RNG +GA -all other shitty tier10 teams
2015-08-28 14:51
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+1
2015-08-29 04:04
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#86
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NiKo | 
Denmark GrayDuck
Yeah, still stupid that it's 4 teams from both NA and EU. It should be at least 6 - 8 teams from EU. The 6 - 8 best EU teams are better or as good as LG and c9
2015-08-27 17:19
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#103
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United States aBerK
thats not how esea is
2015-08-27 17:25
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Thats how esea should be then?
2015-08-27 17:31
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#274
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United States Mohica
Not really, you have eu vs eu every single day and na vs na every single day. Why not want to switch it up instead of always saying eu teams are better blah blah blah, even if you've never faced most teams in na
2015-08-27 19:16
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That's so stupid it actually hurts
2015-08-27 19:33
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#372
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United States Mohica
So basically you're saying you don't want to have eu vs na competition instead of still having a biased style of thinking saying eu always better blahblah?
2015-08-27 22:26
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WHy thiking? Do we have to compare which one deserves more slots than the other? You want a rundown of all tournaments that's been won by EU or just match up against NA teams? Hopefully CLG are a decent team so 3 slots won't be for nothing, but the 4th is definitely a waste.
2015-08-27 22:35
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#389
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Canada lHazard
How ? Liquid is now testing Hiko... i know most of the ppl hate him, but i can't believe ppl deny that he is a good player. This team has potential to become top3 NA, and maybe put on risk some EU teams.
2015-08-28 00:01
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Hiko is the 4th best player in NA right now, but nothing can save liquid from being dogshit. He should join CLG for fns if that's possible. They don't have potential to do shit, they are barely top4 NA right now, especially on LAN when you could argue even tempo storm did better lmfao.
2015-08-28 00:06
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7 replies
#395
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Canada lHazard
They now have one of the best entry fraggers on NA and maybe the best lurker(not banned), if they could let nitr0 rifling and get a main awper instead of adreN(but he is the IGL so it's probably not possible).
2015-08-28 00:14
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6 replies
Who's one of the best entry on NA? EliGE? Lmfao cmon?
2015-08-28 00:23
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2 replies
#398
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Canada lHazard
I don't think i even need to discuss about this. bye
2015-08-28 00:58
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#401
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Austria Megrr
He said NA entry fraggers and yes Elige is probably one of the better ones considering we have like 3 good ones :P
2015-08-28 02:00
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#416
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United States Mohica
If ptr joined liquid and they drop fugly, solid team right there. Bc adren has to stay for igl
2015-08-28 04:33
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#447
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United States SparksFX
Why would they drop their most consistent player? Lmao.
2015-08-29 00:11
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1 reply
#454
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United States Mohica
I don't pay much attention to liquid, I just know hiko, nitro, and elige are all super solid, and adding an awp like ptr who can make crazy plays happen would be great.
2015-08-29 06:04
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because most teams in na arent worth facing?
2015-08-27 19:51
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#299
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United States admiralsid
And they'll never be if they don't get the opportunity to play better teams smart guy
2015-08-27 20:00
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#310
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Denmark jac0b^hSk1nG
+1 always the same argument ''no competition from NA blablabla'' Well if they don't get the chance to learn and compete they'll never evolve?? Stupid europeans everywhere
2015-08-27 20:11
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#312
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shox | 
United States Jayycatz
+1
2015-08-27 20:14
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#319
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Russia DilDoFaggins
now thats just dumb my friend. u dont get better magically by playing against euros. they play against c9, luminosity and clg all day erryday and still they arent nearly as good. the EU league has a load of high calibre teams. the NA league has c9 and luminosity, clg being decent. its not fair that a league with a load of good teams gets an equal amount of slots as a league with a load of bad teams.
2015-08-27 20:19
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#333
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United States admiralsid
It doesn't matter if it's EU or Asia or whatever. There is a skill ceiling when you're constantly playing with the same skill group. You improve by playing against more skilled teams. You don't get better by playing teams worse than you.
2015-08-27 20:33
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#387
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Russia DilDoFaggins
like i said: the shit teams in NA get better by playing the 'good' NA teams (if u can call clg that). but nope, they dont. they stay shit bcs they are shit. whats like the 4th best team in NA? semphis' new team? semphis been competing against EU since 2012. hasnt gotten much better now has he? or shitzams team? u think they'll ever be as good as navi? they wont. yet they might get a slot while teams of the calibre of navi have to stay home. its fucked up. give NA 2 slots, so their best teams can compete fiercely for them. 3 if u have to. but 4 is ridiculous, unless u stack the offline finals more with like 10-12 teams.
2015-08-27 23:57
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#405
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United States admiralsid
Do you even watch NA? There are quite a few teams that have become much better after being able to play with the likes of C9, CLG and Liquid. Are they instantly going to go tier 1 and win a major? Nobody said all that. It's a process to becoming the best. But you're certain not gonna get better by continuing to play with tier 4 teams. And you used semphis for your analogy? That's a major fail.
2015-08-28 02:08
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#410
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Russia DilDoFaggins
yes, i watched loads of games of NA last season. what teams were there apart from the ones i referred to? old lg with anger and those guys? sorry, they were shit. elevate? not even a consistent roster. liquid? LOL that nihilum team? LOL that TS team wwith shitzahm? XD they get better from playing against the likes of c9? sure they do, so quit complaining and telling me they suck bcs there are not good enuff opponents. nobody said they are expected to win a major. im just saying that they are not close to the level that the next EU teams that cant qualify are on.
2015-08-28 03:03
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#450
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United States SparksFX
Of course these people don't watch NA games. If they're arguing that old EU v NA bullshit then I can guarantee they're from EU and NA matches come on too late for them. They want to argue that Keyd is some monster team when they have the same skill level as a team like Mousesports or C9.
2015-08-29 00:20
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#456
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United States admiralsid
+1
2015-08-29 06:45
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#323
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United States Fleshleaves
No, because ESEA is an American company. It's fronting 50% of the money with ESL. This is why half the teams are from NA and the other half from EU. Sorry if you think it should be another way. If you want to front half the money then you can influence how many teams you want from each place.
2015-08-27 20:22
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Typical American way of thiking, you're dumb. What if the money came from some company in South Africa that want to invest into esports, how would that be then? Doesn't matter where the money comes from, this should be seeded, just like the Champions League slots for example. France have 2 when England have like 4 or 5.
2015-08-27 20:28
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#381
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United States Fleshleaves
I'm tempted to say "typical Frenchman" but I'm sure not all think as you do so won't generalize as you do. If the money came from a company in South America, then they could work out a deal so that 12 teams from South America were in it. That's how it works. This is a league, not a single tournament. If it were you could then have a better argument to suggest there should be more EU teams. Of course, by that argument the COD World Championships should only have NA and Aussie teams in it since even though EU gets 12 teams just like NA does they can't get any of the 12 to break into the playoff group of 8. Sure, NA failed to get either to the final 8 in this last Major, but they didn't have 12 teams there, only 2. In CoD at least they invited an equal number of EU teams there, even if none could make it to the playoffs.
2015-08-27 22:43
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#409
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United States admiralsid
+1000
2015-08-28 02:32
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#428
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syrsoN | 
Germany PhoenixD!!!
Following your logic 12 german teams should be in the league
2015-08-28 11:02
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#444
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United States Fleshleaves
You almost have it right. ESL is a German company and they're fronting half the money. If they wanted they definitely COULD limit it to just 12 German teams on the EU side. The problem for them is that while the ESL is a German company, its services are used by most EU players. This doesn't mandate that they must have 12 EU teams and not just 12 German teams. They could have done that, but they'd have practically pissed off a lot of EU players and very soon they'd be a German company whose only EU players signing up with their organization would be only German players. The same is the case for ESEA. It is an American company and if they wished they COULD just limit it to NA teams, but they don't. For practical purposes KeyD moved to the US (to get around latency problems), but ESEA opened it up to KeyD to participate anyway. They were under no obligation to do so, and it would have been easy for them to say "sorry, not an NA team". As ESEA is an American company, and their stated wish is to help promote the American CS:GO scene, and they front 50% of the money, as part of the negotiations with the ESL, they were allowed to input 12 American teams. Put another way, the German ESL company fronted 50% of the money to allow in the negotiations 12 EU teams instead of just German ones because that was their choice having ponied up 50%. It's really not complicated. Don't think with your own personal interests at heart, think how the companies putting the money in think. If you had your way I'm sure you'd make sure all 24 teams were EU teams. ESL could certainly put money in for a separate league and league championship that included ONLY EU teams. Most LAN's already ARE exclusive to EU teams. But, this one isn't. If you don't like the arrangement, watch a different league.
2015-08-28 22:34
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#390
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Russia DilDoFaggins
and im tempted to explain to u why ur reasoning makes no sense at all. but ive done this before, remember ur fuckin name. what the heck, i'll do it again. i kinda enjoy burying my face in my hands at ur dumbass response. esea used to have their very own league before. but they had 2 divisions. one in NA, and one in EU. half the teams of the offline finals came over from EU. which means that originally, if u count esea and the old epl together, one fourth of both leagues were from NA. and now all of a sudden u think its ok if esea just neglects their EU division and wont give some of its slots to them, just bcs the main office of that company happens to be in NA. wanna have 4 teams from NA to boost the NA scene? fine, but make it at least 10 slots at the offline final then.
2015-08-28 00:02
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#418
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United States ODIEkriss!
There are a hundred more tournaments you can watch with only eu teams and maybe 1 NA team if you dont like it. Stop crying.
2015-08-28 07:07
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4 replies
Sooooooo dumb but not surprsing coming from an American
2015-08-28 10:14
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3 replies
#427
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United States ODIEkriss!
Keep throwing insults at me thats about the only thing you have going for you since you cant make an arguement worth a fuck.
2015-08-28 10:54
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2 replies
I have made an argument and all youve said to me is dont watch if you dont like it. It just shows how stupid you are in this case
2015-08-28 12:24
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1 reply
#436
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United States ODIEkriss!
Ya i did, NA's problem in csgo has always been lack of cs events and now we dont even have esea its partnered with esl, and now you dont want NA teams in it? Thats fucked up.
2015-08-28 16:56
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#431
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France Vilsa
No. ESEA and ESL are probably participating fifty fifty on this so they want to give the same chances to the same scenes. Even if it's not the best setting based on results.
2015-08-28 11:37
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#277
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United States Jerk1_
And last finals proved this statement wrong.
2015-08-27 19:17
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#332
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United States chr1spe
What are you talking about? LG (old keyd not the mythic bs team) was at least the 5th or 6th best looking team at cologne. They thrashed kinguin took envyus to overtime, and had a close map against fnatic. I'm not sure why na'vi did so bad and I'm not ready to right them off, but tbh LG is probably the 6th best team in the world imo behind fnatic NV, VP, TSM, and Na'Vi.
2015-08-27 20:32
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#466
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Germany Jesusplays
They are definitely not the 6th best team atm, maybe watch their NA games, but they had an amazing showing at esl one Cologne, as you mentioned.
2015-09-15 23:18
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#4
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Norway exsecutor
yes
2015-08-27 17:03
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gl LG
2015-08-27 17:04
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11 replies
#270
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
We have another moving to USA today, Games Academy, they will play ESL premier, maybe next season they will go to play ESL ESEA Pro league
2015-08-27 19:13
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10 replies
nice!
2015-08-27 19:14
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6 replies
#292
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
Fnx is playing with them
2015-08-27 19:41
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5 replies
#304
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sickLy | 
Colombia sickLy
they will play ESEA Main, but they can qualify to premier next season
2015-08-27 20:02
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4 replies
#352
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Canada favelab0y
Are you sure about that? Thought they were going to play premier this season, and could qualify to pro next season
2015-08-27 21:26
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3 replies
#384
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sickLy | 
Colombia sickLy
2015-08-27 23:46
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2 replies
#388
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Canada favelab0y
that sux so much, they wont be able to play pro league in a long time
2015-08-27 23:58
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#443
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sickLy | 
Colombia sickLy
that is fair, i mean; when you win open, you are moved to Main, they won Open in Brazil and i dont know how but they managed to get the NA Main spot, thats a good move from ESEA admins... in that moment you have to do your own path threw Main and premier... The other Roster, now Luminosity was lucky because they were invited to ESL ESEA Pro League in season One, but normally you have to climb till That division
2015-08-28 22:26
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#311
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suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie
+1 .. Nicely done, Brazil .. Hope they can improve a lot as well .. It'd be awesome if here in Argentina could be possible to get the same opportunity :'( ..
2015-08-27 20:12
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#338
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
We think the same, but in Argentina teams need to grow, maybe chile is one step front
2015-08-27 20:42
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1 reply
#343
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suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie
Well, it's not just about teams, it's about sponsors and money, there's not even one decent sponsor here nor good tournaments :/ .. I think it's because of how Argentina is with eSports and in general .. Argentina didn't invest that much on 1.6 either ..
2015-08-27 21:03
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#6
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oskar | 
Finland ANTER0
No kinguin?
2015-08-27 17:04
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#9
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World Intellex
No kinguin? RIP
2015-08-27 17:04
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#12
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s1mple | 
Bangladesh NyAn_NeKo
N1c3333333333
2015-08-27 17:04
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#13
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Europe swag_minister
k
2015-08-27 17:04
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#16
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Australia snyper
no renegades?
2015-08-27 17:05
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26 replies
+1, wheres renegades at?
2015-08-27 17:06
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#24
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
yes with 200 ping
2015-08-27 17:07
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11 replies
#34
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aurora | 
Australia omag
They're moving to NA
2015-08-27 17:09
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3 replies
#47
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
for real?
2015-08-27 17:11
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2 replies
yep, they have a team house in LA (hence the name LA Renegades)
2015-08-27 17:12
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1 reply
#57
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
#54 :(
2015-08-27 17:13
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#48
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Australia Vayatris
They're going to be living in USA for a few months from September.
2015-08-27 17:11
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6 replies
#54
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
why they decided move to NA instead of EU :(
2015-08-27 17:13
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5 replies
#58
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Spain Ayrr
chances to win, higher.
2015-08-27 17:13
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#83
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aurora | 
Australia omag
NA org
2015-08-27 17:19
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#168
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Turkey glamdr1ng
na organization, more chance to win
2015-08-27 17:59
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#203
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Chile Cristoff
just NA org, nothing else
2015-08-27 18:17
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#421
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Australia Vayatris
It's an NA organisation that already has a gaming house in Los Angeles. The move is only for a few months anyway.
2015-08-28 07:46
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#142
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United States Swifty82
Why does everyone care about renegades?!?!? Wish people cared this much about every team with the potential to finish 6-8th in NA and not even make LAN finals lol.
2015-08-27 17:43
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#159
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
they are better than every NA team except cloud9
2015-08-27 17:52
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9 replies
#166
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United States Swifty82
eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo#/ LOL NT they are 3 spots below Liquid even. Clearly top talent.
2015-08-27 17:57
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#170
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Turkey glamdr1ng
showing that ranking as your source shows your stupidity.
2015-08-27 18:00
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#180
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United States Swifty82
The ranking from the league people are saying they should be in?? From the league they didnt qualify for and aren't even ranked above the teams that would actually go to the lan?
2015-08-27 18:06
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#212
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United Kingdom SmallPenis
RNG > CLG RNG > Liquid RNG < C9 And that's about it.
2015-08-27 18:23
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#219
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United States SwantanamoJ
Lmao pretty much everyone has criticized that ranking list, if you actually looked at it you might know why. Or maybe if you looked at actual results.
2015-08-27 18:30
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#175
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jOELZ | 
Russia Joel Wave
Nice ranking br0
2015-08-27 18:03
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#177
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World BillyMaysRIP
lol using ESL rankings? RNG/Vox Eminor has consistently beat the top NA teams - beat CLG in a Bo1 at ESWC and beat Liquid in a Bo3 at Gfnity. They've produced consistently close results against EU teams. Every time they've faced an NA team, they've beaten them.
2015-08-27 18:06
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#185
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United States Swifty82
We will see i guess if they decide to actually enter the league :p Assuming of course they get out of open and M/P first :p
2015-08-27 18:09
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#417
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New Zealand flam3zcsgo
You're an idiot if you think these rankings are correct/more accurate...
2015-08-28 06:37
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#237
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United Kingdom tiimo
only c9 are better in NA. thats why.
2015-08-27 18:45
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#359
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Brazil gigios
+1 overrated as fuck...
2015-08-27 21:57
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#18
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Sweden Donger89
penta over kinguin lmao
2015-08-27 17:05
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Penta qualified
2015-08-27 17:06
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There was no opportunity for Kinguin to join. Spots were earned by promotion from Premier or relegation.
2015-08-27 17:06
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#19
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Sweden eafn
Hmm Kinguin or SK, Kinguin or SK... Better go with SK!
2015-08-27 17:06
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#71
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Germany Langkornreis
sk qualified.
2015-08-27 17:15
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#20
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Other 121212123
good list
2015-08-27 17:06
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#25
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Belgium ibrahim689
-PENTA +pinguin
2015-08-27 17:07
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#55
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Poland MalborBoss
+1
2015-08-27 17:12
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#66
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Canada lHazard
did Pinguin qualified ? Cause if they did, they would be there... now stop crying.
2015-08-27 17:14
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the half of the NA list is like average globals in MM rofl
2015-08-27 17:07
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#29
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Poland HajperCSGO
ez 4 EnemyGG
2015-08-27 17:08
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#32
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
all these morons saying -penta +kinguin
2015-08-27 17:08
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#38
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Europe Pear_
How are they morons?
2015-08-27 17:10
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#50
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
cuz penta qualified
2015-08-27 17:12
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#139
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United Kingdom Kzati
But it should be -Penta +kinguin but the qualifying system is shit
2015-08-27 17:42
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#221
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
nothing wrong with the qualifying system and should/could/would is bullshit, it isnt
2015-08-27 18:34
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#231
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United Kingdom Kzati
Well surely you should have the best teams in your league. Lets say the swedish scene goes to shit and this team is made: olofm GTR pronax Schneider Forest if that team has to qualify through your shitty league for 1 season then the results of the pro league in that season would be scwed by the fact at top team would be in the shitty league. Should/could/would is not bullshit and never is... ever
2015-08-27 18:42
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#250
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
i disagree, i still think they should qualify through the league cuz thats fair to others and we dont know how good they will be (even tho most will think they are the bestest and the greatest)
2015-08-27 18:54
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#280
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United Kingdom Kzati
Well i disagree with that but i think there is legitimacy for both arguments
2015-08-27 19:23
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#284
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
agree to disagree?
2015-08-27 19:29
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#289
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United Kingdom Kzati
Very well good sir
2015-08-27 19:31
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They are just stating that Kinguin would be a better team than Penta, whether they could be there or not doesn't matter. Penta qualified, Kinguin didn't. Doesn't mean they aren't allowed to want Kinguin over Penta.
2015-08-27 17:37
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#173
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
okey sorry i understood wrong, my bad
2015-08-27 18:01
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#200
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
not everyone sees it that way. So it's not your bad bud ;)
2015-08-27 18:16
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#225
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
well in that case i stick to what i said
2015-08-27 18:35
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#291
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
Yup I agree with it =P
2015-08-27 19:40
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Well, that would be the reason I would say Kinguin instead of Penta. However, I do understand that there are some people who don't do it like that. :D
2015-08-27 21:17
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#367
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
Yeah IK buddy
2015-08-27 22:12
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#35
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Finland 0100cs
Luminosity is an brasilian team, brasilia is not a part of NA :d
2015-08-27 17:09
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NA org.
2015-08-27 17:47
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#243
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Finland 0100cs
I see, thank you !
2015-08-27 18:48
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#296
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Brazil hegium
TSM is a NA org, so they should play in NA league? lol
2015-08-27 19:52
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#37
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Tunisia wizzem
rip kinguin, gj they suck anyway
2015-08-27 17:09
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#39
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Denmark James m9
Penta and SK lol
2015-08-27 17:10
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#40
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Canada Elizahbeth
c9 wins this time
2015-08-27 17:10
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Shame to invite a team like HR and dont invite a team that goes to the major and becomes LEGEND...
2015-08-27 17:10
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#59
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Israel HLTVAC
hellraisers was placed top 10 or something so they guaranteed thier place for the next season
2015-08-27 17:13
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ESL and their shit rank and qualifying systems...
2015-08-27 17:19
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#104
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World Heeze
they got 6th last season over teams like NaVi, Dignitas, mouz etc. by winning games
2015-08-27 17:25
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#124
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Switzerland Reizzz
retard
2015-08-27 17:32
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5 replies
Calm down. You mad cuz portugal rekt you? Cry me a river
2015-08-27 17:50
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#218
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Switzerland Reizzz
top kek, another fox fanboy crying because kinguing didn't quali to esl esea :^( kinguin tier 3
2015-08-27 18:29
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lmao, who gives a fuck about kinguin?
2015-08-27 21:44
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#371
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Switzerland Reizzz
you
2015-08-27 22:25
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rofl i hate them
2015-08-27 22:32
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#376
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World chlenixon
Well. HR is good enough to place top 8 this time to. So?
2015-08-27 22:32
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#42
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Australia havmen
get Renegades in instead of one murican team btw in an interview with SPUNJ after Cologne he said that there is a team here who violated some rule with its lineup so its possible that it will be -someone +someone from the NA side
2015-08-27 17:22
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#213
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United Kingdom SmallPenis
Too many no-name american teams. Even immunity is better than 50% of those crappy pug teams.
2015-08-27 18:24
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#43
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Israel HLTVAC
rip no renegades
2015-08-27 17:11
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#45
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United Kingdom vanqu1sh
a bunch of no-name talentless NA teams instead of luminosity (top10 world) or renegades (top 10-15 world). really?
2015-08-27 17:11
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#75
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Canada favelab0y
luminosity is there mate
2015-08-27 17:16
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#76
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NAF | 
Canada bongsmoker1337
umm luminosity is on there lol
2015-08-27 17:16
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#77
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El Salvador spence120
Luminosity is there...
2015-08-27 17:17
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#95
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Dominican Republic Narniaat
luminosity is there
2015-08-27 17:21
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#128
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United Kingdom vanqu1sh
kek i'm blind apparently
2015-08-27 17:34
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#46
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World runnr
Most boring tournament ever considering winning two bo1s at the offline finals makes you get into the top4 immediately. LOL
2015-08-27 17:11
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#49
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f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP
easy to nip
2015-08-27 17:11
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#52
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Bosnia and Herzegovina T-Show
hahahhaha there is faking SK and no kinguin HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
2015-08-27 17:12
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#56
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Poland maverik94
No Kinguin, No Ebettle? :( EB>HR
2015-08-27 17:12
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kinguin disbanding soon
2015-08-27 17:14
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#60
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New Zealand kingfish
Denmark confirmed strongest CS nation EU
2015-08-27 17:13
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#108
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Sweden Silance
yes, online
2015-08-27 17:26
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1 reply
#144
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Vodka | 
Reunion fuck_niggas
No, Germany best Online.
2015-08-27 17:44
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#61
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Canada Captain Black
NA rules.
2015-08-27 17:14
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#62
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World dontfightearl
Sick location
2015-08-27 17:14
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#63
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Other YH!one
Go LG!!!
2015-08-27 17:14
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#64
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South Africa malefecks
no games academy?
2015-08-27 17:14
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Does this mean that there is finally a 500k price pool?
2015-08-27 17:14
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#96
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United Kingdom ishyk786
250k is split in online phase = 125k for NA online and 125k for EU online Rest of 250k is LAN prize Same as last season
2015-08-27 17:22
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Ah. Okay. I almost got my hopes up.
2015-08-27 17:41
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#69
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Reunion ponkotsu
[*] Flipsid3
2015-08-27 17:14
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#70
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Sweden tupac-
-penta -enemy +kinguin +renegades
2015-08-27 17:14
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5 replies
#174
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United Kingdom dl33tac
+1
2015-08-27 18:03
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#184
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Australia riotbz
no koosta needs a chance :'(
2015-08-27 18:08
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#187
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Sweden tupac-
i know but who else can be replaced? exskdc? method? renegades deserve a spot if they gonna move to NA
2015-08-27 18:10
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#313
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Denmark jac0b^hSk1nG
followesports
2015-08-27 20:15
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1 reply
#326
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Sweden tupac-
still better than penta
2015-08-27 20:24
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#72
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Poland Dilbert
SK Gaming ?! HR ?! Penta ?! LOL Free points
2015-08-27 17:15
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#74
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Sweden Iswayodds
-penta +cph -HR +kinguin -SK + spacesoldiers kappa
2015-08-27 17:16
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#89
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Austria anschar
cph, spacesoldiers ahahahhaha
2015-08-27 17:19
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1 reply
#206
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
whats wrong with CPHW ?
2015-08-27 18:18
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#283
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Europe razzthekid1
this, except SS
2015-08-27 19:26
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#78
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Estonia m8k
12 t2 NA teams? wtf
2015-08-27 17:17
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#79
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Turkey syL0w
no kinguin no fun
2015-08-27 17:18
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#81
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Poland arcticmonkey7
no dobry&gaming? ok. maybe they dont deserve
2015-08-27 17:18
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#82
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Portugal dandreeee
no kinguin no fun
2015-08-27 17:18
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go enemie gogogo want to see koosta @lan :D
2015-08-27 17:19
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#90
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Slovenia yung_voodoo
shame on you esl no renegades
2015-08-27 17:20
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#91
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Ukraine iMaTa
no kinguion/flipsde? the hell
2015-08-27 17:20
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#111
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United States aBerK
f3 got relegated cause they are shit
2015-08-27 17:28
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#93
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Russia VladimirJam
Where is F3 and Kinguin?
2015-08-27 17:20
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#107
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World Novamb
Flipside finished dead last in the first season and was relegated
2015-08-27 17:26
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#125
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Rioborn | 
World tkelmm
f3 had less points than anyone else. thats why f3 isnt here
2015-08-27 17:32
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#97
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Brazil pedro77
GamesAcademy.BR ??
2015-08-27 17:22
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#99
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Georgia aliosha
What happend woth efrag? Match vs mouz was postphoned
2015-08-27 17:23
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#109
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World Novamb
E-frag was disqualified because of dreamers VAC ban
2015-08-27 17:26
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#100
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Ireland sekke
3 danish teams! whats up, sweden!
2015-08-27 17:24
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#101
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f0rest | 
Germany Gloin
ezezezezezezezezezezeezezezez mouzzzzzz <3333
2015-08-27 17:24
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#102
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Sweden eastonx
shit list, wheres renegades? kinguin? even immunity?
2015-08-27 17:24
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#105
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World Novamb
And 4 of this NA list gets to go to LAN....
2015-08-27 17:25
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#110
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NAF | 
Canada bongsmoker1337
c9 LG and clg aren't bad
2015-08-27 17:27
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7 replies
#117
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World Novamb
Yeah, but look at the Europe list. Only 4 of those teams will qualify. I know thats how ESEA always was, just looks kinda silly when a team like Liquid goes to LAN but one of TSM, fnatic, VP, Na'Vi or Envy has to stay home.
2015-08-27 17:30
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#126
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United States aBerK
This isn't a tournament to have the top 8 in the world play for LAN. This is the top 4 from NA against the top 4 from EU. Every other tournament will have TSM, fnatic, vp, na'vi, and envy They don't need to be the same
2015-08-27 17:32
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#131
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World Novamb
I know, I'm just saying it looks silly, nothing more. I know ESEA want their 4 EU, 4 NA teams and frankly I don't really mind, because the team I want to see at LAN (mouz) has frankly no chance anyway.
2015-08-27 17:34
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#136
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United States aBerK
mouz made it to two esea lans in a row some how. But NiP, envy, and tsm didn't even play esea those seasons. For both season 17 and 18, titan, vp, fnatic, and mouz qualified for LAN.
2015-08-27 17:39
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#141
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World Novamb
Yeah I know, the league was "better" then because you knew smaller teams had a chance because the big guys weren't playing. mouz beat Na'Vi twice to qualify for those iirc Now this league has 500k$ and ofc everyone is in there, so "weaker" teams have almost no chance to get top4. But I'm really looking forward to Penta and if they can beat their previous record of 2 wins and 20 losses.
2015-08-27 17:43
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#156
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United States aBerK
If only e-frag had a sixth player on their esea lineup, they would be in professional right now instead of penta (i think) rip dream3r
2015-08-27 17:49
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#169
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World Novamb
Nah, e-frag had to play mouz for promotion while Penta had to play Roccat
2015-08-27 17:59
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#106
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World Intellex
ROFL SK / Penta / HR and no Kinguin? Also where is Renegades? ESl is so shit rofl.
2015-08-27 17:25
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#114
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United States aBerK
If kinguin would have played premier last season they would be in it now, but they didn't...
2015-08-27 17:28
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2 replies
#118
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World Intellex
So its impossible to join Leagues without playing the first one?
2015-08-27 17:30
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#132
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United States aBerK
It isn't an invitational... It is just like football, the bottom teams get relegated to premier while the top teams from premier get promoted. Kinguin doesn't need to play every league to get to professional, esea would for sure invite them to premier right away, and then all they have to do for promotion is get top 1, or top 2/3 and win playoff against 10/11 from professional. They didn't even sign up for premier though... stubborn cunts
2015-08-27 17:35
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Renegades isnt an European or an US Team.
2015-08-27 17:31
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#127
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World Intellex
Well Spunj said on interviews that they try to join NA League. If ESL said yes, they would have moved to NA.
2015-08-27 17:33
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#197
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Australia TotalEclipse
They were always moving to the US regardless of whether they were allowed to compete in the ESL/ESEA league or not.
2015-08-27 18:15
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#207
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World Intellex
I know that but Spunj said that if ESL said yes, they would have moved instantly.
2015-08-27 18:20
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#397
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jks | 
Australia Dancing Panda
What he actualy said was if they wanted them to play some qualifiers to get into the league they would get on a plane right away
2015-08-28 00:25
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ez penguins
2015-08-27 17:28
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#115
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Portugal jO7A
Kinguin ftw. kappa keppe kippi koppo kuppu
2015-08-27 17:29
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Most of the configs of the esl cologne can be found on our website if someone wants to try it!
2015-08-27 17:31
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#129
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Lithuania karkeris
CHA No kinguin :)
2015-08-27 17:34
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#130
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Australia ambaLAD
RENEGADES PLS
2015-08-27 17:34
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#133
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Sweden Hangeki
2015-08-27 17:36
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#135
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Poland sajlent
so, we have tier999 NA trash teams but we don't get Kinguin, FlipSid3, ex-G2, LGB, CW, eBettle or E-Frag? jesus ESL...
2015-08-27 17:39
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#152
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United States aBerK
kinguin didn't play in premier last season so they had no chance for promotion. For some dumb reason they didn't even sign up for premier this season either. flipsid3 lost almost all their games in professional last season so they got relegated. ex-gamers2 went 8-8 in premier last season, so they didn't get promoted lgb isn't a team anymore cw is the old lgb lineup, who went 6-10 last seaon, so they didn't get promoted. ebettle didn't play in esea at all last year, and are currently signed up to play in open e-frag qualified to play in premier, but because dream3r had an account with a vac ban on it, rosters were locked and they only had 5 players, so they didn't get to play in premier Have any questions? This isn't an invitational
2015-08-27 17:48
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#222
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Poland sajlent
I dont care Teams I wrote deserve a slot in this league more than 6 listed NA teams
2015-08-27 18:35
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1 reply
#229
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United States aBerK
wtf... are you dumb. They7 are two seperate leagues
2015-08-27 18:41
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#146
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method | 
United States f0xes`
That awful format though.
2015-08-27 17:46
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#147
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Macau Ex6TenZ retire pls!
Kinguin? Flipsid3? They invited HR, PENTA, SK, that are sucking cocks, but didn't invite solid teams, that can give a fight to any top team? GJ.
2015-08-27 17:46
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#148
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NAF | 
Canada bongsmoker1337
No team was invited tho
2015-08-27 17:47
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#149
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
rugrat | 
Hungary Therealkabumm
ez for na'vi on lan
2015-08-27 17:47
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#151
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Poland eiur
-penta +ebettle 2 german teams are in, influence of esl strong.
2015-08-27 17:47
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#154
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United States aBerK
there is no invites you retard, penta qualified. ebettle didn't even play esea last season
2015-08-27 17:48
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#163
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Hungary bantuftw
you do realise that there is a league under pro league, and you have to qualify for it from that one ? penta qualified that way, they weren't invited.
2015-08-27 17:54
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#167
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Poland eiur
my bad
2015-08-27 17:58
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#155
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Aleksib | 
Finland y0nes
-Penta +NerdRage
2015-08-27 17:49
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#160
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Mongolia Schnappi07
efrag ez
2015-08-27 17:52
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#161
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Europe selbi
ez for titan
2015-08-27 17:52
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Renegades will have to do what every other team there did. They have to play their way into the tournament. ESEA has been that way forever.
2015-08-27 17:56
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#199
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Australia TotalEclipse
How did LG get into the tournament? I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I can't remember how they did it.
2015-08-27 18:16
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ESEA Invite used to be eight teams. When the pro-league began they increased that to twelve teams. ESEA invited KeyD, moved up two (?) additional ESEA-Premier teams, and the winner of ESEA-Main (Method). If Renegades/Vox were available at that time, they probably would've been given an invite as well.
2015-08-27 18:20
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#423
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Australia TotalEclipse
Yeah that makes sense, thanks.
2015-08-28 08:40
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#171
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Czech Republic malda
go NiP go!
2015-08-27 18:00
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#172
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jOELZ | 
Finland stubey
LG only one from NA who can challenge tier2 EU teams
2015-08-27 18:00
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Because all the other good NA teams have been busy beating tier 1 EU teams.
2015-08-27 18:05
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3 replies
#181
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jOELZ | 
Finland stubey
yeah they got some good games at last major... wait never mind they didnt get out of groups
2015-08-27 18:06
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#189
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Australia riotbz
misuse of plural, there is only one other good NA team.........
2015-08-27 18:11
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#275
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World Jolly Roger
ROFL NT
2015-08-27 19:16
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#182
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Portugal 69_mL
F3 :'(
2015-08-27 18:08
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#195
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France ZaDJk
can't wait ! such an amazing competition !
2015-08-27 18:13
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#198
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France JoeyGuerreva
-sk -penta +efrag +kinguin ffs
2015-08-27 18:15
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#202
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sh1ro | 
United States ewo
yay no hacking mortality esports in NA. woohoo
2015-08-27 18:17
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7 replies
#214
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
They don't hack though LOL. Its called skill that went unrecognized until now.
2015-08-27 18:24
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#249
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
sh1ro | 
United States ewo
LOL they hack. watch any vod of the old ignite roster. Sick and vice are so blatant.
2015-08-27 18:54
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#293
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
Aha the one if anyone that hacked was yay (under a different nickname at the time) and even he didn't. So stop whining they're just upcoming talent just like Xantares.
2015-08-27 19:42
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#303
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
sh1ro | 
United States ewo
dude. you have <3 DAVEY in your name and dont even agree with him apparently. back when they were in the RGN finals against fenix fire DAVEY told the fenix fire guys not to play because they want RGN to know they dont want to play in a league with these hackers. learn your shit before you come on here and tell me to stop whining.
2015-08-27 20:01
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#307
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
Oh back off mahn why you gotta hate on everyone that's better than expected ? If that was said then why don't you show me a source.
2015-08-27 20:09
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#321
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
sh1ro | 
United States ewo
he talked about it on his stream awhile ago. obviously you are too dumb to notice blatant cheaters when you see them. there are so many vods of sick just locking onto peoples heads through walls. im done talking to you because obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
2015-08-27 20:25
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#329
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United Kingdom LandzY0-KKS
Obviously you don't either if you keep thinking everyone who is relatively unknown that's good is hacking. Just because a crossheir happens to stop on a head doesn't mean hacks. There are a lot of fishy instances in CS you can't just hate a certain person just because it happens to happen more to them. Also if he did on stream so what. I like him as a player, for his plays, not a streamer for what he does on those LOL.
2015-08-27 20:28
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#205
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Chile Cristoff
LG ez in NA
2015-08-27 18:18
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#211
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Slovakia VerySloVACGuy
penta in and fraternitas/efrag/kinguin not ? WTF IS THIS SHIT
2015-08-27 18:21
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4 replies
#235
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Germany ayy lmao.
Fraternitas rofl
2015-08-27 18:44
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3 replies
#318
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Slovakia VerySloVACGuy
yea rofl theyre 100% better than penta and kinguin/efrag also its free 10th place for penta
2015-08-27 20:19
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2 replies
#334
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Germany ayy lmao.
Online fo sho
2015-08-27 20:38
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1 reply
#336
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Slovakia VerySloVACGuy
are they playing online right ? because i doubt they would reach lan
2015-08-27 20:41
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#224
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Germany DerMitDemBlunt
oO no Flipsid3 efrag or kinguin ? w00t ?
2015-08-27 18:35
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2 replies
Flipsid3 went like 2-12 in this league last season. I still think they're a good team though.
2015-08-27 18:49
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#266
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Germany DerMitDemBlunt
well they qualified for esl one cologne which is also an esl event and has basicly the best teams playing so dunno why they wouldnt play in the league as well. especially with teams like sk playing in it
2015-08-27 19:10
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#227
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Denmark Krin
Mythic Considered EU? Ez top1
2015-08-27 18:37
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#365
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United States KingK
Because they have 3 European players living in USA. Xp3 from France Devilwalk from Sweden Pyth from Sweden.
2015-08-27 22:04
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yeah, losing bo2 against method... i guess so
2015-08-28 18:18
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#234
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Snax | 
Poland ogrood5k
No D&G or ebettle :(
2015-08-27 18:43
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i just dont know, why they invite shit teams like dignitas/HR instead of eBettle for example
2015-08-27 18:47
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#253
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Lithuania WetPenguin
Mythic NA with EU flag, ok ..
2015-08-27 18:57
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Where's Kinguin?
2015-08-27 19:00
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#258
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Estonia rYm
-penta +kinguin = best top12.eu teams
2015-08-27 19:01
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#259
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Canada blehmann1
No kinguin and no Na'Vi? Interesting...
2015-08-27 19:02
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#265
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Norway apEZ
Um whats with mythics flag lol
2015-08-27 19:10
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#287
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United States Aflimacon
They replaced a bunch of players until they had pyth, Devilwalk, and Xp3. So now they only have two NA players in a roster of 5.
2015-08-27 19:30
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#353
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Norway apEZ
oh, forgot they had xp3, lmao
2015-08-27 21:27
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#288
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aurora | 
Australia omag
More Europeans in the team
2015-08-27 19:31
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#268
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia Aleksis
Kinguin? FS? WTF?
2015-08-27 19:11
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#269
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
IT IS NOT A INVITATION TOURNAMENT, IT'S A LEAGUE
2015-08-27 19:11
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#273
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Brazil woody77
GamesAcademy play in Main League Renegads play in Premier League nice ESL ESEA GA and RNG > FolloweSports , Method , EnemyGG , LunatiK , 3sUP , Sponsorless
2015-08-27 19:16
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#297
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
They are in Premier too dude EDIT: I saw in ESL ESEA Pro League they are in Main, but Fallen said they will play in Premier :O
2015-08-27 19:57
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2 replies
#300
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Brazil woody77
In the Esea site they are confirmed on Main
2015-08-27 20:00
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1 reply
#324
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Brazil Aniquilad0r
I ask fallen about it, cuz it's a shame.
2015-08-27 20:23
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#276
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Norway spytt
lol Penta. there's always that one team that manages to sneak their way into leagues they don't belong in.
2015-08-27 19:17
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#282
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Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
No Kinguin, booo
2015-08-27 19:25
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#286
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Norway beastin
Wow so many missing teams on bot EU and NA. What is SK and PENTA doing there?
2015-08-27 19:30
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#301
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
No nerdRage FailFish
2015-08-27 20:01
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#308
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Norway GNVRToxic
No CPH Wolves :(
2015-08-27 20:11
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ez season for Fnatic
2015-08-27 20:18
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#325
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Russia asddi
-hr +efrag pls
2015-08-27 20:23
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1 reply
#379
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World chlenixon
HR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>efrag
2015-08-27 22:36
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#331
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United Kingdom kESKY
Am I the only one the feels the bottom tier of NA pro teams should just be moved to premier? Method... FE/SK... EnemyGG... How are any of these teams considered professional?
2015-08-27 20:29
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#337
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GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
I was hoping to see the move from Renegades to NA, but with the teams already announced I guess we can forget about it
2015-08-27 20:41
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#340
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Finland Baconguy
luminosity is na yes
2015-08-27 20:43
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#342
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Poland Joltson
GO GO VP
2015-08-27 20:46
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#344
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Ireland DuckMoriarty
I'd have thought that the world flag logo would be best for Mythic no?
2015-08-27 21:07
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#345
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Poland retardelele2
nice no overrated pinguin shit
2015-08-27 21:10
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1 reply
#455
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coldzera | 
Cyprus s1mple_jonson
I love Poland ahaha.. Are the Brazilians of Europe! HU3RINOS
2015-08-29 06:25
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#348
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Germany LANDWHALE
Dis gun be guud
2015-08-27 21:19
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#350
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aizy | 
World icyprinc3
no king of penguins.booooo
2015-08-27 21:23
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#355
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World Chill^
such a joke that renegades isnt invited Lulz.
2015-08-27 21:50
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#380
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North America Foxaika
It's not an invite league.
2015-08-27 22:38
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#382
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United States Ociov
Nobody was invited lol. You either qualify like everyone else or you don't play, simple as that.
2015-08-27 22:54
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1 reply
#413
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Finland jayss
That wasn't the case for Keyd Stars last season.
2015-08-28 03:57
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#358
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World memeextreme
GL to ocean
2015-08-27 21:53
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#362
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Bakerino
no renegades ? this just blows my mind ESEA WTF
2015-08-27 22:02
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#369
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia havmen
*LunatiK dropped lineup*
2015-08-27 22:16
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#373
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f0rest | 
Iran JKWoWiaN
Gl all
2015-08-27 22:29
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#385
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Canada lHazard
-LunatiK +???
2015-08-27 23:53
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#411
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World Young Blood
nV
2015-08-28 03:40
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#412
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Finland jayss
No Renegades FeelsBadMan
2015-08-28 03:56
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#415
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Romania Nazgul19
where can i see the results of the qualifiers? im curious how sk and penta are there (for fks sake) but kinguin and flipside are not WTFF
2015-08-28 04:35
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#424
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Australia 99in1
Renegades BEGGED, They can (and mostly have) beaten 16 of the listed 24 teams listed here, yet still not accepted, poor form ESEA... poor form
2015-08-28 09:02
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#437
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United States Swifty82
Because you have to qualify. Why is this so hard for you brick heads to understand. We get it, its the only good team from your country but, fair is fair. If they want in they have to move to NA or EU and compete in a lower Tier of the league.
2015-08-28 17:59
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#425
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Turkey powergs
No SS :(
2015-08-28 10:02
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#453
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Korea OGKoala
Bo1 underdog season incoming. Im really gonna try to save my skins up for this again. 20% and below is the best way to profit on lounge
2015-08-29 04:24
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#465
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Slovakia wew lad
no kinguin?
2015-09-15 18:42
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