ESL ESEA Pro League team list

27-8-2015 17:00

ESL and ESEA have released the final list of participants for the second edition of the ESL ESEA Pro League.

Scheduled to start on September 15, the ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2 will once again feature 24 teams across two divisions. These teams will duke it out for the chance to attend the offline finals, which will take place inside ESL's Los Angeles arena, later this year.

Just like in the opening season, which saw fnatic take home the trophy and the first prize of $100,000, a total of $500,000 will be given away during the course of the season.

fnatic won the first ESL ESEA Pro League season

Below you can find the final list of participants for ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2:

Europe	North America
fnatic	Cloud9
Virtus.pro	Luminosity
Team SoloMid	Mythic
EnVyUs	CLG
Ninjas in Pyjamas	Team Liquid
Null element HellRaisers	compLexity
Null element Natus Vincere	Sponsorless
dignitas	3sUP
Titan	ex-LunatiK
SK Gaming	EnemyGG
mousesports	Method
PENTA Sports	FolloweSports

fnatic n1 again

2015-08-27 17:03

64 replies

didnt renegades move to US?

2015-08-27 17:18

20 replies

Nope, not yet. Yam said on stream they'll move in maybe a couple of weeks.

2015-08-27 17:20

9 replies

and why would they do that if they cant play in the eepl?

2015-08-27 20:16

8 replies

Renegades gaming house.

2015-08-27 22:24

7 replies

and why not go there earlier to compete in the eepl?

2015-08-27 23:54

6 replies

Many reasons. One was that ESL/ESEA didn't let them compete for the spot eLevate left when they disbanded. Another was that they were scheduled to go then. Who knows? ¯\_(o.o)_/¯

2015-08-28 00:06

5 replies

well thats kinda shitty then since all they have left to do in NA then is play scrims against mostly shit opponents and compete in cevo if they made it there. faceit too, but they coulda done that from AUS.

2015-08-28 00:14

3 replies

League rules would not really allow them to anyways unless they play in (I think)

2015-08-28 01:57

1 reply

eLevate folded so their spot in the league was up for grabs. Rather than give it to a play off between Renegades or another team, they gave it to FolloweSports.com instead... I have a feeling they're going straight down this season as well...

2015-08-28 12:01

I think the teams in NA are going to be better practice than the ones in AUS. Cloud9, Luminosity are undoubtedly better than the Australian teams they prac against and CLG is probably better than them too. Even the next 3-4 teams are going to be better than most of the teams Renegades normally plays in AUS. They also said that part of the reason for moving to NA for a few months is that it will make it easier and less expensive for them to travel to more events (presumably European events).

2015-08-28 07:45

ty for info

2015-08-28 07:51

Brazilian team in NA LOL. Brazilia is in South America

2015-08-27 18:55

7 replies

Go back to the rock you've been for the last couple years

2015-08-27 19:09

1 reply

Looool + 100000

2015-08-27 19:15

They moved to NA a couple months ago to improve and mainly because of ESL ESEA league as well .. It doesn't matter where Brazil is, but the location of where the team is living, in this case Luminosity are living in USA ..

2015-08-27 20:11

2 replies

i thought they went back to brazil after the season doe :O

2015-08-27 20:16

1 reply

They did, but they'll have to move back again to NA to compete.

2015-08-27 20:20

Omg, geography skills @ silver rank? :D or we all got you wrong! :|

2015-08-27 20:42

1 reply

He is right, Brazil is in South America, it's just that the entire team moved to Las Angeles, California to be able to play in the ESEA ESL Pro League.

2015-08-27 21:13

+RNG +GA -all other shitty tier10 teams

2015-08-28 14:51

1 reply

2015-08-29 04:04

Yeah, still stupid that it's 4 teams from both NA and EU. It should be at least 6 - 8 teams from EU. The 6 - 8 best EU teams are better or as good as LG and c9

2015-08-27 17:19

42 replies

thats not how esea is

2015-08-27 17:25

38 replies

Thats how esea should be then?

2015-08-27 17:31

37 replies

Not really, you have eu vs eu every single day and na vs na every single day. Why not want to switch it up instead of always saying eu teams are better blah blah blah, even if you've never faced most teams in na

2015-08-27 19:16

23 replies

That's so stupid it actually hurts

2015-08-27 19:33

11 replies

So basically you're saying you don't want to have eu vs na competition instead of still having a biased style of thinking saying eu always better blahblah?

2015-08-27 22:26

10 replies

WHy thiking? Do we have to compare which one deserves more slots than the other? You want a rundown of all tournaments that's been won by EU or just match up against NA teams? Hopefully CLG are a decent team so 3 slots won't be for nothing, but the 4th is definitely a waste.

2015-08-27 22:35

9 replies

How ? Liquid is now testing Hiko... i know most of the ppl hate him, but i can't believe ppl deny that he is a good player. This team has potential to become top3 NA, and maybe put on risk some EU teams.

2015-08-28 00:01

8 replies

Hiko is the 4th best player in NA right now, but nothing can save liquid from being dogshit. He should join CLG for fns if that's possible. They don't have potential to do shit, they are barely top4 NA right now, especially on LAN when you could argue even tempo storm did better lmfao.

2015-08-28 00:06

7 replies

They now have one of the best entry fraggers on NA and maybe the best lurker(not banned), if they could let nitr0 rifling and get a main awper instead of adreN(but he is the IGL so it's probably not possible).

2015-08-28 00:14

6 replies

Who's one of the best entry on NA? EliGE? Lmfao cmon?

2015-08-28 00:23

2 replies

I don't think i even need to discuss about this. bye

2015-08-28 00:58

He said NA entry fraggers and yes Elige is probably one of the better ones considering we have like 3 good ones :P

2015-08-28 02:00

If ptr joined liquid and they drop fugly, solid team right there. Bc adren has to stay for igl

2015-08-28 04:33

2 replies

Why would they drop their most consistent player? Lmao.

2015-08-29 00:11

1 reply

I don't pay much attention to liquid, I just know hiko, nitro, and elige are all super solid, and adding an awp like ptr who can make crazy plays happen would be great.

2015-08-29 06:04

because most teams in na arent worth facing?

2015-08-27 19:51

10 replies

And they'll never be if they don't get the opportunity to play better teams smart guy

2015-08-27 20:00

9 replies

+1 always the same argument ''no competition from NA blablabla'' Well if they don't get the chance to learn and compete they'll never evolve?? Stupid europeans everywhere

2015-08-27 20:11

2015-08-27 20:14

now thats just dumb my friend. u dont get better magically by playing against euros. they play against c9, luminosity and clg all day erryday and still they arent nearly as good. the EU league has a load of high calibre teams. the NA league has c9 and luminosity, clg being decent. its not fair that a league with a load of good teams gets an equal amount of slots as a league with a load of bad teams.

2015-08-27 20:19

6 replies

It doesn't matter if it's EU or Asia or whatever. There is a skill ceiling when you're constantly playing with the same skill group. You improve by playing against more skilled teams. You don't get better by playing teams worse than you.

2015-08-27 20:33

5 replies

like i said: the shit teams in NA get better by playing the 'good' NA teams (if u can call clg that). but nope, they dont. they stay shit bcs they are shit. whats like the 4th best team in NA? semphis' new team? semphis been competing against EU since 2012. hasnt gotten much better now has he? or shitzams team? u think they'll ever be as good as navi? they wont. yet they might get a slot while teams of the calibre of navi have to stay home. its fucked up. give NA 2 slots, so their best teams can compete fiercely for them. 3 if u have to. but 4 is ridiculous, unless u stack the offline finals more with like 10-12 teams.

2015-08-27 23:57

4 replies

Do you even watch NA? There are quite a few teams that have become much better after being able to play with the likes of C9, CLG and Liquid. Are they instantly going to go tier 1 and win a major? Nobody said all that. It's a process to becoming the best. But you're certain not gonna get better by continuing to play with tier 4 teams. And you used semphis for your analogy? That's a major fail.

2015-08-28 02:08

3 replies

yes, i watched loads of games of NA last season. what teams were there apart from the ones i referred to? old lg with anger and those guys? sorry, they were shit. elevate? not even a consistent roster. liquid? LOL that nihilum team? LOL that TS team wwith shitzahm? XD they get better from playing against the likes of c9? sure they do, so quit complaining and telling me they suck bcs there are not good enuff opponents. nobody said they are expected to win a major. im just saying that they are not close to the level that the next EU teams that cant qualify are on.

2015-08-28 03:03

Of course these people don't watch NA games. If they're arguing that old EU v NA bullshit then I can guarantee they're from EU and NA matches come on too late for them. They want to argue that Keyd is some monster team when they have the same skill level as a team like Mousesports or C9.

2015-08-29 00:20

1 reply

2015-08-29 06:45

No, because ESEA is an American company. It's fronting 50% of the money with ESL. This is why half the teams are from NA and the other half from EU. Sorry if you think it should be another way. If you want to front half the money then you can influence how many teams you want from each place.

2015-08-27 20:22

6 replies

Typical American way of thiking, you're dumb. What if the money came from some company in South Africa that want to invest into esports, how would that be then? Doesn't matter where the money comes from, this should be seeded, just like the Champions League slots for example. France have 2 when England have like 4 or 5.

2015-08-27 20:28

4 replies

I'm tempted to say "typical Frenchman" but I'm sure not all think as you do so won't generalize as you do. If the money came from a company in South America, then they could work out a deal so that 12 teams from South America were in it. That's how it works. This is a league, not a single tournament. If it were you could then have a better argument to suggest there should be more EU teams. Of course, by that argument the COD World Championships should only have NA and Aussie teams in it since even though EU gets 12 teams just like NA does they can't get any of the 12 to break into the playoff group of 8. Sure, NA failed to get either to the final 8 in this last Major, but they didn't have 12 teams there, only 2. In CoD at least they invited an equal number of EU teams there, even if none could make it to the playoffs.

2015-08-27 22:43

3 replies

+1000

2015-08-28 02:32

Following your logic 12 german teams should be in the league

2015-08-28 11:02

1 reply

You almost have it right. ESL is a German company and they're fronting half the money. If they wanted they definitely COULD limit it to just 12 German teams on the EU side. The problem for them is that while the ESL is a German company, its services are used by most EU players. This doesn't mandate that they must have 12 EU teams and not just 12 German teams. They could have done that, but they'd have practically pissed off a lot of EU players and very soon they'd be a German company whose only EU players signing up with their organization would be only German players. The same is the case for ESEA. It is an American company and if they wished they COULD just limit it to NA teams, but they don't. For practical purposes KeyD moved to the US (to get around latency problems), but ESEA opened it up to KeyD to participate anyway. They were under no obligation to do so, and it would have been easy for them to say "sorry, not an NA team". As ESEA is an American company, and their stated wish is to help promote the American CS:GO scene, and they front 50% of the money, as part of the negotiations with the ESL, they were allowed to input 12 American teams. Put another way, the German ESL company fronted 50% of the money to allow in the negotiations 12 EU teams instead of just German ones because that was their choice having ponied up 50%. It's really not complicated. Don't think with your own personal interests at heart, think how the companies putting the money in think. If you had your way I'm sure you'd make sure all 24 teams were EU teams. ESL could certainly put money in for a separate league and league championship that included ONLY EU teams. Most LAN's already ARE exclusive to EU teams. But, this one isn't. If you don't like the arrangement, watch a different league.

2015-08-28 22:34

and im tempted to explain to u why ur reasoning makes no sense at all. but ive done this before, remember ur fuckin name. what the heck, i'll do it again. i kinda enjoy burying my face in my hands at ur dumbass response. esea used to have their very own league before. but they had 2 divisions. one in NA, and one in EU. half the teams of the offline finals came over from EU. which means that originally, if u count esea and the old epl together, one fourth of both leagues were from NA. and now all of a sudden u think its ok if esea just neglects their EU division and wont give some of its slots to them, just bcs the main office of that company happens to be in NA. wanna have 4 teams from NA to boost the NA scene? fine, but make it at least 10 slots at the offline final then.

2015-08-28 00:02

There are a hundred more tournaments you can watch with only eu teams and maybe 1 NA team if you dont like it. Stop crying.

2015-08-28 07:07

4 replies

Sooooooo dumb but not surprsing coming from an American

2015-08-28 10:14

3 replies

Keep throwing insults at me thats about the only thing you have going for you since you cant make an arguement worth a fuck.

2015-08-28 10:54

2 replies

I have made an argument and all youve said to me is dont watch if you dont like it. It just shows how stupid you are in this case

2015-08-28 12:24

1 reply

Ya i did, NA's problem in csgo has always been lack of cs events and now we dont even have esea its partnered with esl, and now you dont want NA teams in it? Thats fucked up.

2015-08-28 16:56

No. ESEA and ESL are probably participating fifty fifty on this so they want to give the same chances to the same scenes. Even if it's not the best setting based on results.

2015-08-28 11:37

And last finals proved this statement wrong.

2015-08-27 19:17

What are you talking about? LG (old keyd not the mythic bs team) was at least the 5th or 6th best looking team at cologne. They thrashed kinguin took envyus to overtime, and had a close map against fnatic. I'm not sure why na'vi did so bad and I'm not ready to right them off, but tbh LG is probably the 6th best team in the world imo behind fnatic NV, VP, TSM, and Na'Vi.

2015-08-27 20:32

1 reply

They are definitely not the 6th best team atm, maybe watch their NA games, but they had an amazing showing at esl one Cologne, as you mentioned.

2015-09-15 23:18

yes

2015-08-27 17:03

gl LG

2015-08-27 17:04

11 replies

We have another moving to USA today, Games Academy, they will play ESL premier, maybe next season they will go to play ESL ESEA Pro league

2015-08-27 19:13

10 replies

nice!

2015-08-27 19:14

6 replies

Fnx is playing with them

2015-08-27 19:41

5 replies

they will play ESEA Main, but they can qualify to premier next season

2015-08-27 20:02

4 replies

Are you sure about that? Thought they were going to play premier this season, and could qualify to pro next season

2015-08-27 21:26

3 replies

im sure. play.esea.net/teams/84737

2015-08-27 23:46

2 replies

that sux so much, they wont be able to play pro league in a long time

2015-08-27 23:58

1 reply

that is fair, i mean; when you win open, you are moved to Main, they won Open in Brazil and i dont know how but they managed to get the NA Main spot, thats a good move from ESEA admins... in that moment you have to do your own path threw Main and premier... The other Roster, now Luminosity was lucky because they were invited to ESL ESEA Pro League in season One, but normally you have to climb till That division

2015-08-28 22:26

+1 .. Nicely done, Brazil .. Hope they can improve a lot as well .. It'd be awesome if here in Argentina could be possible to get the same opportunity :'( ..

2015-08-27 20:12

2 replies

We think the same, but in Argentina teams need to grow, maybe chile is one step front

2015-08-27 20:42

1 reply

Well, it's not just about teams, it's about sponsors and money, there's not even one decent sponsor here nor good tournaments :/ .. I think it's because of how Argentina is with eSports and in general .. Argentina didn't invest that much on 1.6 either ..

2015-08-27 21:03

No kinguin?

2015-08-27 17:04

No kinguin? RIP

2015-08-27 17:04

N1c3333333333

2015-08-27 17:04

no renegades?

2015-08-27 17:05

26 replies

+1, wheres renegades at?

2015-08-27 17:06

yes with 200 ping

2015-08-27 17:07

11 replies

They're moving to NA

2015-08-27 17:09

3 replies

for real?

2015-08-27 17:11

2 replies

yep, they have a team house in LA (hence the name LA Renegades)

2015-08-27 17:12

1 reply

#54 :(

2015-08-27 17:13

They're going to be living in USA for a few months from September.

2015-08-27 17:11

6 replies

why they decided move to NA instead of EU :(

2015-08-27 17:13

5 replies

chances to win, higher.

2015-08-27 17:13

NA org

2015-08-27 17:19

na organization, more chance to win

2015-08-27 17:59

just NA org, nothing else

2015-08-27 18:17

It's an NA organisation that already has a gaming house in Los Angeles. The move is only for a few months anyway.

2015-08-28 07:46

Why does everyone care about renegades?!?!? Wish people cared this much about every team with the potential to finish 6-8th in NA and not even make LAN finals lol.

2015-08-27 17:43

12 replies

they are better than every NA team except cloud9

2015-08-27 17:52

9 replies

eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo#/ LOL NT they are 3 spots below Liquid even. Clearly top talent.

2015-08-27 17:57

8 replies

showing that ranking as your source shows your stupidity.

2015-08-27 18:00

3 replies

The ranking from the league people are saying they should be in?? From the league they didnt qualify for and aren't even ranked above the teams that would actually go to the lan?

2015-08-27 18:06

2 replies

RNG > CLG RNG > Liquid RNG < C9 And that's about it.

2015-08-27 18:23

Lmao pretty much everyone has criticized that ranking list, if you actually looked at it you might know why. Or maybe if you looked at actual results.

2015-08-27 18:30

Nice ranking br0

2015-08-27 18:03

lol using ESL rankings? RNG/Vox Eminor has consistently beat the top NA teams - beat CLG in a Bo1 at ESWC and beat Liquid in a Bo3 at Gfnity. They've produced consistently close results against EU teams. Every time they've faced an NA team, they've beaten them.

2015-08-27 18:06

1 reply

We will see i guess if they decide to actually enter the league :p Assuming of course they get out of open and M/P first :p

2015-08-27 18:09

You're an idiot if you think these rankings are correct/more accurate...

2015-08-28 06:37

only c9 are better in NA. thats why.

2015-08-27 18:45

+1 overrated as fuck...

2015-08-27 21:57

penta over kinguin lmao

2015-08-27 17:05

2 replies

Penta qualified

2015-08-27 17:06

There was no opportunity for Kinguin to join. Spots were earned by promotion from Premier or relegation.

2015-08-27 17:06

Hmm Kinguin or SK, Kinguin or SK... Better go with SK!

2015-08-27 17:06

1 reply

sk qualified.

2015-08-27 17:15

good list

2015-08-27 17:06

-PENTA +pinguin

2015-08-27 17:07

2 replies

2015-08-27 17:12

did Pinguin qualified ? Cause if they did, they would be there... now stop crying.

2015-08-27 17:14

the half of the NA list is like average globals in MM rofl

2015-08-27 17:07

ez 4 EnemyGG

2015-08-27 17:08

all these morons saying -penta +kinguin

2015-08-27 17:08

16 replies

How are they morons?

2015-08-27 17:10

8 replies

cuz penta qualified

2015-08-27 17:12

7 replies

But it should be -Penta +kinguin but the qualifying system is shit

2015-08-27 17:42

6 replies

nothing wrong with the qualifying system and should/could/would is bullshit, it isnt

2015-08-27 18:34

5 replies

Well surely you should have the best teams in your league. Lets say the swedish scene goes to shit and this team is made: olofm GTR pronax Schneider Forest if that team has to qualify through your shitty league for 1 season then the results of the pro league in that season would be scwed by the fact at top team would be in the shitty league. Should/could/would is not bullshit and never is... ever

2015-08-27 18:42

4 replies

i disagree, i still think they should qualify through the league cuz thats fair to others and we dont know how good they will be (even tho most will think they are the bestest and the greatest)

2015-08-27 18:54

3 replies

Well i disagree with that but i think there is legitimacy for both arguments

2015-08-27 19:23

2 replies

agree to disagree?

2015-08-27 19:29

1 reply

Very well good sir

2015-08-27 19:31

They are just stating that Kinguin would be a better team than Penta, whether they could be there or not doesn't matter. Penta qualified, Kinguin didn't. Doesn't mean they aren't allowed to want Kinguin over Penta.

2015-08-27 17:37

6 replies

okey sorry i understood wrong, my bad

2015-08-27 18:01

5 replies

not everyone sees it that way. So it's not your bad bud ;)

2015-08-27 18:16

4 replies

well in that case i stick to what i said

2015-08-27 18:35

3 replies

Yup I agree with it =P

2015-08-27 19:40

2 replies

Well, that would be the reason I would say Kinguin instead of Penta. However, I do understand that there are some people who don't do it like that. :D

2015-08-27 21:17

1 reply

Yeah IK buddy

2015-08-27 22:12

Luminosity is an brasilian team, brasilia is not a part of NA :d

2015-08-27 17:09

3 replies

NA org.

2015-08-27 17:47

2 replies

I see, thank you !

2015-08-27 18:48

TSM is a NA org, so they should play in NA league? lol

2015-08-27 19:52

rip kinguin, gj they suck anyway

2015-08-27 17:09

Penta and SK lol

2015-08-27 17:10

c9 wins this time

2015-08-27 17:10

Shame to invite a team like HR and dont invite a team that goes to the major and becomes LEGEND...

2015-08-27 17:10

10 replies

hellraisers was placed top 10 or something so they guaranteed thier place for the next season

2015-08-27 17:13

8 replies

ESL and their shit rank and qualifying systems...

2015-08-27 17:19

7 replies

they got 6th last season over teams like NaVi, Dignitas, mouz etc. by winning games

2015-08-27 17:25

retard

2015-08-27 17:32

5 replies

Calm down. You mad cuz portugal rekt you? Cry me a river

2015-08-27 17:50

4 replies

top kek, another fox fanboy crying because kinguing didn't quali to esl esea :^( kinguin tier 3

2015-08-27 18:29

3 replies

lmao, who gives a fuck about kinguin?

2015-08-27 21:44

2 replies

you

2015-08-27 22:25

1 reply

rofl i hate them

2015-08-27 22:32

Well. HR is good enough to place top 8 this time to. So?

2015-08-27 22:32

get Renegades in instead of one murican team btw in an interview with SPUNJ after Cologne he said that there is a team here who violated some rule with its lineup so its possible that it will be -someone +someone from the NA side

2015-08-27 17:22

1 reply

Too many no-name american teams. Even immunity is better than 50% of those crappy pug teams.

2015-08-27 18:24

rip no renegades

2015-08-27 17:11

a bunch of no-name talentless NA teams instead of luminosity (top10 world) or renegades (top 10-15 world). really?

2015-08-27 17:11

5 replies

luminosity is there mate

2015-08-27 17:16

umm luminosity is on there lol

2015-08-27 17:16

Luminosity is there...

2015-08-27 17:17

luminosity is there

2015-08-27 17:21

kek i'm blind apparently

2015-08-27 17:34

Most boring tournament ever considering winning two bo1s at the offline finals makes you get into the top4 immediately. LOL

2015-08-27 17:11

easy to nip

2015-08-27 17:11

hahahhaha there is faking SK and no kinguin HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

2015-08-27 17:12

No Kinguin, No Ebettle? :( EB>HR

2015-08-27 17:12

1 reply

kinguin disbanding soon

2015-08-27 17:14

Denmark confirmed strongest CS nation EU

2015-08-27 17:13

2 replies

yes, online

2015-08-27 17:26

1 reply

No, Germany best Online.

2015-08-27 17:44

NA rules.

2015-08-27 17:14

Sick location

2015-08-27 17:14

Go LG!!!

2015-08-27 17:14

no games academy?

2015-08-27 17:14

Does this mean that there is finally a 500k price pool?

2015-08-27 17:14

2 replies

250k is split in online phase = 125k for NA online and 125k for EU online Rest of 250k is LAN prize Same as last season

2015-08-27 17:22

1 reply

Ah. Okay. I almost got my hopes up.

2015-08-27 17:41

[*] Flipsid3

2015-08-27 17:14

-penta -enemy +kinguin +renegades

2015-08-27 17:14

5 replies

2015-08-27 18:03

no koosta needs a chance :'(

2015-08-27 18:08

3 replies

i know but who else can be replaced? exskdc? method? renegades deserve a spot if they gonna move to NA

2015-08-27 18:10

2 replies

followesports

2015-08-27 20:15

1 reply

still better than penta

2015-08-27 20:24

SK Gaming ?! HR ?! Penta ?! LOL Free points

2015-08-27 17:15

-penta +cph -HR +kinguin -SK + spacesoldiers kappa

2015-08-27 17:16

3 replies

cph, spacesoldiers ahahahhaha

2015-08-27 17:19

1 reply

whats wrong with CPHW ?

2015-08-27 18:18

this, except SS

2015-08-27 19:26

12 t2 NA teams? wtf

2015-08-27 17:17

no kinguin no fun

2015-08-27 17:18

no dobry&gaming? ok. maybe they dont deserve

2015-08-27 17:18

no kinguin no fun

2015-08-27 17:18

go enemie gogogo want to see koosta @lan :D

2015-08-27 17:19

shame on you esl no renegades

2015-08-27 17:20

no kinguion/flipsde? the hell

2015-08-27 17:20

1 reply

f3 got relegated cause they are shit

2015-08-27 17:28

Where is F3 and Kinguin?

2015-08-27 17:20

2 replies

Flipside finished dead last in the first season and was relegated

2015-08-27 17:26

f3 had less points than anyone else. thats why f3 isnt here

2015-08-27 17:32

GamesAcademy.BR ??

2015-08-27 17:22

What happend woth efrag? Match vs mouz was postphoned

2015-08-27 17:23

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E-frag was disqualified because of dreamers VAC ban

2015-08-27 17:26

3 danish teams! whats up, sweden!

2015-08-27 17:24

ezezezezezezezezezezeezezezez mouzzzzzz <3333

2015-08-27 17:24

shit list, wheres renegades? kinguin? even immunity?

2015-08-27 17:24

And 4 of this NA list gets to go to LAN....

2015-08-27 17:25

8 replies

c9 LG and clg aren't bad

2015-08-27 17:27

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Yeah, but look at the Europe list. Only 4 of those teams will qualify. I know thats how ESEA always was, just looks kinda silly when a team like Liquid goes to LAN but one of TSM, fnatic, VP, Na'Vi or Envy has to stay home.

2015-08-27 17:30

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This isn't a tournament to have the top 8 in the world play for LAN. This is the top 4 from NA against the top 4 from EU. Every other tournament will have TSM, fnatic, vp, na'vi, and envy They don't need to be the same

2015-08-27 17:32

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I know, I'm just saying it looks silly, nothing more. I know ESEA want their 4 EU, 4 NA teams and frankly I don't really mind, because the team I want to see at LAN (mouz) has frankly no chance anyway.

2015-08-27 17:34

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mouz made it to two esea lans in a row some how. But NiP, envy, and tsm didn't even play esea those seasons. For both season 17 and 18, titan, vp, fnatic, and mouz qualified for LAN.

2015-08-27 17:39

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Yeah I know, the league was "better" then because you knew smaller teams had a chance because the big guys weren't playing. mouz beat Na'Vi twice to qualify for those iirc Now this league has 500k$ and ofc everyone is in there, so "weaker" teams have almost no chance to get top4. But I'm really looking forward to Penta and if they can beat their previous record of 2 wins and 20 losses.

2015-08-27 17:43

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If only e-frag had a sixth player on their esea lineup, they would be in professional right now instead of penta (i think) rip dream3r

2015-08-27 17:49

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Nah, e-frag had to play mouz for promotion while Penta had to play Roccat

2015-08-27 17:59

ROFL SK / Penta / HR and no Kinguin? Also where is Renegades? ESl is so shit rofl.

2015-08-27 17:25

8 replies

If kinguin would have played premier last season they would be in it now, but they didn't...

2015-08-27 17:28

2 replies

So its impossible to join Leagues without playing the first one?

2015-08-27 17:30

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It isn't an invitational... It is just like football, the bottom teams get relegated to premier while the top teams from premier get promoted. Kinguin doesn't need to play every league to get to professional, esea would for sure invite them to premier right away, and then all they have to do for promotion is get top 1, or top 2/3 and win playoff against 10/11 from professional. They didn't even sign up for premier though... stubborn cunts

2015-08-27 17:35

Renegades isnt an European or an US Team.

2015-08-27 17:31

4 replies

Well Spunj said on interviews that they try to join NA League. If ESL said yes, they would have moved to NA.

2015-08-27 17:33

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They were always moving to the US regardless of whether they were allowed to compete in the ESL/ESEA league or not.

2015-08-27 18:15

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I know that but Spunj said that if ESL said yes, they would have moved instantly.

2015-08-27 18:20

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What he actualy said was if they wanted them to play some qualifiers to get into the league they would get on a plane right away

2015-08-28 00:25

ez penguins

2015-08-27 17:28

Kinguin ftw. kappa keppe kippi koppo kuppu

2015-08-27 17:29

Most of the configs of the esl cologne can be found on our website if someone wants to try it!

2015-08-27 17:31

CHA No kinguin :)

2015-08-27 17:34

RENEGADES PLS

2015-08-27 17:34

i.imgur.com/cHCXut8.png

2015-08-27 17:36

so, we have tier999 NA trash teams but we don't get Kinguin, FlipSid3, ex-G2, LGB, CW, eBettle or E-Frag? jesus ESL...

2015-08-27 17:39

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kinguin didn't play in premier last season so they had no chance for promotion. For some dumb reason they didn't even sign up for premier this season either. flipsid3 lost almost all their games in professional last season so they got relegated. ex-gamers2 went 8-8 in premier last season, so they didn't get promoted lgb isn't a team anymore cw is the old lgb lineup, who went 6-10 last seaon, so they didn't get promoted. ebettle didn't play in esea at all last year, and are currently signed up to play in open e-frag qualified to play in premier, but because dream3r had an account with a vac ban on it, rosters were locked and they only had 5 players, so they didn't get to play in premier Have any questions? This isn't an invitational

2015-08-27 17:48

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I dont care Teams I wrote deserve a slot in this league more than 6 listed NA teams

2015-08-27 18:35

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wtf... are you dumb. They7 are two seperate leagues

2015-08-27 18:41

That awful format though.

2015-08-27 17:46

Kinguin? Flipsid3? They invited HR, PENTA, SK, that are sucking cocks, but didn't invite solid teams, that can give a fight to any top team? GJ.

2015-08-27 17:46

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No team was invited tho

2015-08-27 17:47

ez for na'vi on lan

2015-08-27 17:47

-penta +ebettle 2 german teams are in, influence of esl strong.

2015-08-27 17:47

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there is no invites you retard, penta qualified. ebettle didn't even play esea last season

2015-08-27 17:48

you do realise that there is a league under pro league, and you have to qualify for it from that one ? penta qualified that way, they weren't invited.

2015-08-27 17:54

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my bad

2015-08-27 17:58

-Penta +NerdRage

2015-08-27 17:49

efrag ez

2015-08-27 17:52

ez for titan

2015-08-27 17:52

Renegades will have to do what every other team there did. They have to play their way into the tournament. ESEA has been that way forever.

2015-08-27 17:56

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How did LG get into the tournament? I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I can't remember how they did it.

2015-08-27 18:16

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ESEA Invite used to be eight teams. When the pro-league began they increased that to twelve teams. ESEA invited KeyD, moved up two (?) additional ESEA-Premier teams, and the winner of ESEA-Main (Method). If Renegades/Vox were available at that time, they probably would've been given an invite as well.

2015-08-27 18:20

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Yeah that makes sense, thanks.

2015-08-28 08:40

go NiP go!

2015-08-27 18:00

LG only one from NA who can challenge tier2 EU teams

2015-08-27 18:00

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Because all the other good NA teams have been busy beating tier 1 EU teams.

2015-08-27 18:05

3 replies

yeah they got some good games at last major... wait never mind they didnt get out of groups

2015-08-27 18:06

misuse of plural, there is only one other good NA team.........

2015-08-27 18:11

ROFL NT

2015-08-27 19:16

F3 :'(

2015-08-27 18:08

can't wait ! such an amazing competition !

2015-08-27 18:13

-sk -penta +efrag +kinguin ffs

2015-08-27 18:15

yay no hacking mortality esports in NA. woohoo

2015-08-27 18:17

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They don't hack though LOL. Its called skill that went unrecognized until now.

2015-08-27 18:24

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LOL they hack. watch any vod of the old ignite roster. Sick and vice are so blatant.

2015-08-27 18:54

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Aha the one if anyone that hacked was yay (under a different nickname at the time) and even he didn't. So stop whining they're just upcoming talent just like Xantares.

2015-08-27 19:42

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dude. you have <3 DAVEY in your name and dont even agree with him apparently. back when they were in the RGN finals against fenix fire DAVEY told the fenix fire guys not to play because they want RGN to know they dont want to play in a league with these hackers. learn your shit before you come on here and tell me to stop whining.

2015-08-27 20:01

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Oh back off mahn why you gotta hate on everyone that's better than expected ? If that was said then why don't you show me a source.

2015-08-27 20:09

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he talked about it on his stream awhile ago. obviously you are too dumb to notice blatant cheaters when you see them. there are so many vods of sick just locking onto peoples heads through walls. im done talking to you because obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.

2015-08-27 20:25

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Obviously you don't either if you keep thinking everyone who is relatively unknown that's good is hacking. Just because a crossheir happens to stop on a head doesn't mean hacks. There are a lot of fishy instances in CS you can't just hate a certain person just because it happens to happen more to them. Also if he did on stream so what. I like him as a player, for his plays, not a streamer for what he does on those LOL.

2015-08-27 20:28

LG ez in NA

2015-08-27 18:18

penta in and fraternitas/efrag/kinguin not ? WTF IS THIS SHIT

2015-08-27 18:21

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Fraternitas rofl

2015-08-27 18:44

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yea rofl theyre 100% better than penta and kinguin/efrag also its free 10th place for penta

2015-08-27 20:19

2 replies

Online fo sho

2015-08-27 20:38

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are they playing online right ? because i doubt they would reach lan

2015-08-27 20:41

oO no Flipsid3 efrag or kinguin ? w00t ?

2015-08-27 18:35

2 replies

Flipsid3 went like 2-12 in this league last season. I still think they're a good team though.

2015-08-27 18:49

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well they qualified for esl one cologne which is also an esl event and has basicly the best teams playing so dunno why they wouldnt play in the league as well. especially with teams like sk playing in it

2015-08-27 19:10

Mythic Considered EU? Ez top1

2015-08-27 18:37

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Because they have 3 European players living in USA. Xp3 from France Devilwalk from Sweden Pyth from Sweden.

2015-08-27 22:04

yeah, losing bo2 against method... i guess so

2015-08-28 18:18

No D&G or ebettle :(

2015-08-27 18:43

i just dont know, why they invite shit teams like dignitas/HR instead of eBettle for example

2015-08-27 18:47

Mythic NA with EU flag, ok ..

2015-08-27 18:57

Where's Kinguin?

2015-08-27 19:00

-penta +kinguin = best top12.eu teams

2015-08-27 19:01

No kinguin and no Na'Vi? Interesting...

2015-08-27 19:02

Um whats with mythics flag lol

2015-08-27 19:10

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They replaced a bunch of players until they had pyth, Devilwalk, and Xp3. So now they only have two NA players in a roster of 5.

2015-08-27 19:30

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oh, forgot they had xp3, lmao

2015-08-27 21:27

More Europeans in the team

2015-08-27 19:31

Kinguin? FS? WTF?

2015-08-27 19:11

IT IS NOT A INVITATION TOURNAMENT, IT'S A LEAGUE

2015-08-27 19:11

GamesAcademy play in Main League Renegads play in Premier League nice ESL ESEA GA and RNG > FolloweSports , Method , EnemyGG , LunatiK , 3sUP , Sponsorless

2015-08-27 19:16

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They are in Premier too dude EDIT: I saw in ESL ESEA Pro League they are in Main, but Fallen said they will play in Premier :O

2015-08-27 19:57

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In the Esea site they are confirmed on Main

2015-08-27 20:00

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I ask fallen about it, cuz it's a shame.

2015-08-27 20:23

lol Penta. there's always that one team that manages to sneak their way into leagues they don't belong in.

2015-08-27 19:17

No Kinguin, booo

2015-08-27 19:25

Wow so many missing teams on bot EU and NA. What is SK and PENTA doing there?

2015-08-27 19:30

No nerdRage FailFish

2015-08-27 20:01

No CPH Wolves :(

2015-08-27 20:11

ez season for Fnatic

2015-08-27 20:18

-hr +efrag pls

2015-08-27 20:23

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HR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>efrag

2015-08-27 22:36

Am I the only one the feels the bottom tier of NA pro teams should just be moved to premier? Method... FE/SK... EnemyGG... How are any of these teams considered professional?

2015-08-27 20:29

I was hoping to see the move from Renegades to NA, but with the teams already announced I guess we can forget about it

2015-08-27 20:41

luminosity is na yes

2015-08-27 20:43

GO GO VP

2015-08-27 20:46

I'd have thought that the world flag logo would be best for Mythic no?

2015-08-27 21:07

nice no overrated pinguin shit

2015-08-27 21:10

1 reply

I love Poland ahaha.. Are the Brazilians of Europe! HU3RINOS

2015-08-29 06:25

Dis gun be guud

2015-08-27 21:19

no king of penguins.booooo

2015-08-27 21:23

such a joke that renegades isnt invited Lulz.

2015-08-27 21:50

3 replies

It's not an invite league.

2015-08-27 22:38

Nobody was invited lol. You either qualify like everyone else or you don't play, simple as that.

2015-08-27 22:54

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That wasn't the case for Keyd Stars last season.

2015-08-28 03:57

GL to ocean

2015-08-27 21:53

no renegades ? this just blows my mind ESEA WTF

2015-08-27 22:02

*LunatiK dropped lineup*

2015-08-27 22:16

Gl all

2015-08-27 22:29

-LunatiK +???

2015-08-27 23:53

2015-08-28 03:40

No Renegades FeelsBadMan

2015-08-28 03:56

where can i see the results of the qualifiers? im curious how sk and penta are there (for fks sake) but kinguin and flipside are not WTFF

2015-08-28 04:35

Renegades BEGGED, They can (and mostly have) beaten 16 of the listed 24 teams listed here, yet still not accepted, poor form ESEA... poor form

2015-08-28 09:02

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Because you have to qualify. Why is this so hard for you brick heads to understand. We get it, its the only good team from your country but, fair is fair. If they want in they have to move to NA or EU and compete in a lower Tier of the league.

2015-08-28 17:59