fnatic, TSM to face off in Fb Showdown

29-8-2015 13:05

As a teaser for the upcoming season, Fragbite have invited fnatic and TSM to face off on LAN in a Masters Champions Showdown on September 5th as the last two champions of Fragbite Masters.

Many were eager to see TSM and fnatic duking it out in the ESL One Cologne grand final - or at least at some point in the tournament -, but EnVyUs robbed TSM's fans of that match-up.

To make up for that, Fragbite announce Masters Champions Showdown, where fnatic and TSM, the two most recent champions of Fragbite Masters, will get to play a best-of-five on LAN.

TSM and fnatic to face off after ESL One Cologne

A total of 100,000 SEK (~$11,820) will be distributed among the teams depending on which maps they won, and the winner will go home with a direct invite to Season 5 LAN Finals. Keep in mind that even if the victor is decided after three or four maps, the remainder will be played anyway.

Map #1 - 15,000 SEK (~$1,770)
Map #2 - 15,000 SEK (~$1,770)
Map #3 - 20,000 SEK (~$2,360)
Map #4 - 20,000 SEK (~$2,360)
Map #5 - 30,000 SEK (~$3,550)

Fragbite Masters Showdown will take place on September 5th at 16:00 in Fragbite's studio in Stockholm, Sweden, with RoomOnFire duo Auguste "Semmler" Massonat and Anders Blume bringing you the action on-stream.

ez 4 fnc

2015-08-29 13:05

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I Arent Think that, fnc Wind tho

2015-08-29 13:42

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they woneded

2015-09-05 22:13

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lyke i sayed friend

2015-09-05 22:15

With you time for some ezzz skins

2015-08-29 16:08

1 reply

ez skinzz ez lyfe

2015-08-29 21:18

2015-08-29 13:05

Will be epic.

2015-08-29 13:05

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I dont think so. Free money for TSM. Fnatic always lose vs. TSM.

2015-08-29 13:19

40 replies

was a long time ago we last saw em, and fnatic have looked better lately.

2015-08-29 14:21

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FNC insane on major,after that kinda good, and again insane on major:D So I think 55/60-45/40 for TSM

2015-08-29 14:24

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They were not insane at all. They looked much worse than they did in Katowice. That's the only period, IMO, in which they could rightfully be called 'the best team in the world'. They were only lucky in Cologne. VP had 14-10 on the second map and choked and EnvyUs had 15-8 or something like that on dust and they choked as well. They were also lucky enough to not face TSM at all.

2015-08-29 14:58

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fnatic magic bruh

2015-08-29 15:22

Let's hear the experts opinion of who is rightfully the best team in the world then. Preferably with explanations.

2015-08-29 15:36

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lol he is right tough, I dont know how you cant see that... A lot of people said fnatic were not in a good form this event. And tbh a more experienced NV would have won the final.

2015-08-29 16:01

Skill wise and strat wise: either EnvyUs or TSM. These guys' only problem is their mentality. That's why they are choking or throwing matches they should win. Yet again. VP choked. If it wasn't for that choke Fnatic wouldn't have even reached the final. Then looking into the final. Envy should have easily won dust. Cobble would've gone fnatic's way anyway and after that Envy would've destroyed fnatic on inferno. And yet again... I said it before: they haven't played against TSM at all. My guess is that TSM would've destroyed them as they always do. Fnatic doesn't look like the best team in world at all. You have pronax who skill wise is probably the weakest tier 1 player in the scene, JW who's sadly doing really bad rat the moment, Olofmeister who is fragging a lot but not efficiently and he also had some matches in which they needed him badly but he was bottom fragging and you only have KRIMZ and Flusha who are constantly performing. They also have a very limited AWPing capacity. Their mentality as well as some pretty solid strats from pronax and some godlike plays by krimz and flusha are the facts that made them win this one. You can't have 2 guys stepping up their game massively when your 2 star players (JW and Olofmeister) are under performing and call yourself the best team in the world. You can't rely on your opponents to make mistakes in order to win an event and call yourself the best team in the world. This looks like a mess, not the best team in the world to me and to anybody with some common sense,

2015-08-29 16:05

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vp choked stopped reading there. later, gypsy...

2015-08-29 16:21

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If losing when you had 13-8 and the economy of the ct's shaking on inferno is not a choke then I dunno what is. They were unable to close the map when they had an overwhelming advantage. So it is a choke. Besides that how do you know that I'm part of a community numbering 620,000 people out of a 16 million people population? Funny how you're stereotyping when you have the flag of your country hidden. So manly. So where are you from?

2015-08-29 18:04

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im from germany bitch. so just let it go. losing when ur up in the score =/= choking. both teams played great till the end. u cant single out where VP choked. they just received an amazing comeback by fnc. thats it.

2015-08-30 00:52

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I have have German roots myself so you let it go as well. moron. Also, considering your past you might not even want to try to be racist in any way. Not only that but you're looking like an ignorant as well, just saying. Have you even got any idea about the inferno economy? Once one side gets the economy rolling the way that VP did, at the time when VP did, they should be snowballing until the end. They had momentum, they had better equipment and the possibility to re-buy whenever they wanted. Everything was going their way and considering the fact that you're talking about a major event's semi-final, between 2 of the best teams in the world then yes you're talking about a choke, because considering their experience as well as their strats and skill level, this comeback shouldn't have ever happened. And what Envy did on Dust 2 was even worse.

2015-08-30 01:27

I'm sorry, but if you don't find Olofm consistent I think we will have a hard time getting any further in this argument. It doesn't really matter if TSM beats fnatic if they can't even reach that stage of the tournament - i'm saying this as a TSM fan. We agree that JW isn't at his peak - imagine if he were. The fact that he isn't just solidifies the fact that fnatic is the best team in the world - they can go all the way with him underperforming. Until they don't show up at a major, there should be no real doubt which team is number one. As you mentioned: solid strats, 4 ppl able to make big plays and the best mentality you can have in a game - yup they are number one.

2015-08-29 20:32

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If you refer to Olofmeister as a consistent fragger then he really is. But as in any team based game, and especially in the pro scene, you will most likely have people who are not necessarily top fragging but they are they actual carries of the team. If you think that the top fragger is the one and only carry of the team then further arguing with you makes no sense as well. Take the ESL ESEA group stage game between TSM and Fnatic for example. It ended 16-14 for Fnatic, with olofmeister being the top fragger and flusha the bottom fragger. Yet I can't recall a single round in which olofmeister did a clutch play or anything like it. However, I do remember that flusha had 2 or 3 rounds in which they were all using pistols against a fully equipped TSM and he got 2 or 3 kills with the CZ in each round. That's basically the round difference that one them the game and kept them in the tournament. Yes, Olofmeister does a lot of fragging and he does it consistently. But very little of his frags do matter. Personally, I got this confirmation during the game against NiP on Train, in the same competition. Olofmeister dropped a 40 bomb yet the game ended 16-14 for Fnatic, with them obviously in danger of losing it. Compare him to Device. He dropped a 40 bomb on CLG at IEM and the game ended 16-7 or something like that. A game in which a player had 40 frags shouldn't go beyond 16-8. When JW was as his peak, him and KennyS were some of the best players in the world. They were both messed up by the AWP update even though JW initially seemed to have gotten used to it but right now barely hits anything with anything. And no, that's not what I mentioned. I said that pronax is very weak as a player but is a great strategist; olofmeister is an inefficient frag machine; JW is maybe the most talented in that team but right now he's only a shadow of his former self and then you get Krimz and Flusha who are the actual MVP's of the team. And I also said that compared to all other tier 1 teams, their AWP-ing is very limited now that JW is not really on point and Olofmeister is either going god mode either missing all shots. I do agree, however, that their mentality is by far the best and even though there are older players than they are, in the scene, they seem to be the most experienced team. But yet again: you can't be number one just because you have a great mentality and a lot of experience. When it comes to Cologne, though, you can't deny the fact that they were extremely lucky as well.

2015-08-29 21:12

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Flusha's clutch plays wouldn't have mattered if fnatic hadn't gotten a lot of "normal rounds" in which there's no real big clutch, just solid play all around. Most rounds aren't decided by insane clutches. You may think that a big fragger doesn't have any impact plays, but it's ridiculous to say that the sum of many ordinary frags doesn't have a huge impact. If a player drops 40 frags and it's still a close game, that's on the other players, not the madfragger. He does his job, which is to frag, and he does it to near perfection. There was no way he could've played his role any better. And I don't get this "only their mentality saved them, so they're not the best" crap. Who's best is decided by who is able to win the most and most important games against other tier1 teams. Doesn't matter if it's strats, mad frags or mentality. Whatever it is that's giving them the edge, they consistently prove that they're better than the other teams at winning. WINNING is what determines who's the best team in the world. Not individual skill, strats, tactics, clutch plays, mentality. All these things just play into a whole and it's the results that matter. "Oh, if I didn't get nervous I could totally beat you." Yeah well, you didn't beat me, so fuck off. I just demonstrated I'm better than you, doesn't matter what factor led to my victory. That's fnatic. Two consecutive majors and they're not the best team in the world. Moronic.

2015-08-30 12:40

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So in your opinion 20 frags out of which 15 were made during clutch plays are less important than 30 frags out of which 20 were eco clean-ups / exit frags. Now that's some retarded thinking. You see CS:GO is a shooter. In a shooter EVERYBODY IS FRAGGING. This is not League of Legends in which the guy with the most kills is by nature the carry of the team. In CS:GO the carry is the guy who has the most high-impact frags not the most frags. The device vs olofmeister example is the proof of my theory. A guy with 40 kills gives his team by default an 8 round advantage. This does not apply only when one guy makes those 40 frags while he and his team are working towards a comeback (see VP's game against Na'Vi on Train). In the Fnatic vs NiP Fnatic had an 8-0 lead, won both pistol rounds and the 2 following rounds in each case. They also had a guy with 40 frags and 2 others with 20 frags. There's no way that game should have ever gone past the 16-8 scoreline. This just shows how inefficient most of their fragging actually is. As I mentioned before: Fnatic were by far the best team in world during ESL ONE Katowice. There's no way anybody could deny that. But right now their game sucks. That's why I said that they did not deserve Cologne and they do not deserve being called the best team in the world. Fnatic is only able to win tournaments that TSM do not attend or in which they get taken out by others. Relying on other teams to take your nemesis out or winning tournaments in which your rivals are not playing doesn't make you the best team in the world but a very pathetic one. Relying on your opponents' chokes in order to win a a major makes you even more pathetic.

2015-08-30 14:13

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> So in your opinion 20 frags out of which 15 were made during clutch plays are less important than 30 frags out of which 20 were eco clean-ups / exit frags. No, in my opinion you should stop putting words in my mouth. Go fanboy somewhere else, because you don't belong in this reality.

2015-09-01 20:04

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I'm not 'putting any words in your mouth'. That's the conclusion that I drew, based on what you said. If you meant something else than you explain it yourself as you make unclear statements that you fail to explain. Since you're now making it personal, calling me a fanboy without even knowing the team that i support or if I'm supporting any, as I made no such statement, I assume that you realized that your point made no sense, which is a good thing, because it really made no sense as you didn't prove anything. If i have a different point of view but I am able to bring forward relevant facts (which I did), it doesn't mean that I'm delusional in any way. It only means that I have a different point of view and that I'm also able to further develop it, with true facts. Your statements were shaky, some did not make sense and some even proved me that I'm right in some ways. Since you're not able to make a strong point of view, that would make sense, it's funny that you're calling me delusional since you are backing away and calling me a fanboy when you have nothing left to say. It's actually the other way around.

2015-09-01 20:43

Obviously you can't win this many majors without luck aswell - It's a part of any "sport". In what world is it Olofm's "fault" that they don't close out a game in which he makes 40 frags earlier. Imagine if he hadn't made them. There's no such a thing as an inefficient fragmachine, it is contradictory in every way possible. I never said Olofm is the only carry. If you read, what I said were: "fnatic has 4 people able to make big plays". At no point did I say that olof is the only carry, I jsut said that it's plain wrong to call him inconsistent.

2015-08-30 19:21

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Out of your 4 people able to make big plays I only pointed out 2: Krimz and Flusha, who are the only ones that, IMO, are the only ones able to do big play CONSISTENTLY. I'm not saying that it's all on Olofmeister, I'm not saying that they lack carries. Sure olofmeister and JW are able to do that as well. But in JW's case these plays are a rarity when compared to what he used to do and, as I pointed out in the Fnatic vs NiP case, he shows some reliability issues. If he hadn't hit that 40-bomb my guess is that the result would've been the same. They had 6 rounds by default (they won both pistols and the 2 following rounds) and at some point in the game they had an 8-0 advantage. So my guess is that they would've won the game 16-14 anyway but I used this match to point out that olofmeister can at some point do a lot of inefficient fragging. This is not the only game in which it happened, I've noticed it in several games, but this one is the most obvious and concerning one of them all. And yet again. In all of those matches they were not the ones who were struggling. So even though it might not make sense to you, apparently there are players who can be inefficient frag machines. But to me it doesn't sound strange at all. This game gives a chance to the guy with more clutch plays to have a higher impact towards the outcome of a match, than the guy with the most frags. And if one manages to do them both, it only makes this game much more exciting to watch and play. And I never said that you shouldn't be lucky when doing a sport or e-sport, I said that you shouldn't rely on it, especially when you want people to consider you the best team in the world. It's a huge difference.

2015-08-30 20:09

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It's not even a discussion... Inefficient and fragmachine can't exist in the same sentence unless the sentence is: "there's no such thing as an inefficient fragmachine". It's not even about opinion, it's just straight up facts. A frag is a frag, it has to be made whether it's a clutch or not. What about the 5 rounds you win before the clutch round where you have to get the frags aswell, but without ending in a clutch? What you are saying just doesn't make sense. And fnatic aren't relying on luck. All teams have a "nemesis" until they beat them again. Might aswell have been in cologne, since TSM played sub par anyways.

2015-08-30 21:28

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I've just proved that there CAN be inefficient frag machines and there ARE inefficient frag machines. It's the game's economy, rewards system, format EVERYTHING that allows this to happen. it makes a lot of sense since yet again the game ALLOWS this to happen. Yet again... read with attention: Is in your opinion a guy with 30 frags out of which 20 are eco clean-ups / exit frags more efficient than a guy with 20 frags out of which 15 are entry frags / clutch play frags? And I only said that they relied on luck in Cologne. And TSM did very well . The only mistake they did was losing on cache the ct side after having a 5-1 advantage. But they snowballed on dust and inferno wasn't going to be their map anyway.

2015-08-30 22:21

There are so many wrong things in your post i dont know where to begin. And if a team chokes (and your definition of choke is bad), and chokes again its a bad team. If you throw all of your matches against other teams because of choking it means your team is shit.

2015-08-30 11:40

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Oh please teach me the definition of choking.

2015-08-30 12:04

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Choking is when you almost got a game by a large margin 10-15, 10-14 etc, and because of immense pressure you begin to suck and throw away the game. If you comeback from 4-10 or something its because the other team has been read and their tactics suck, and they lose. And another point, if Fnatic sucks, how can they make almost every team ,,choke" when they come close to fnatic. Mind you these are T1 teams. Any other lesser team gets dominated by fnatic. A win is still a win, if you choke you suck.

2015-09-01 15:45

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Most people that it has to be a huge difference in order to call a comeback of one time a choke of the other. This is not true. Considering that both EnvyUs and VP had their economies making that of Fnatic shake really bad, yet they still ended up losing. Don't forget that we're talking about dust and inferno. On these 2 maps any side can be snowballing, it depends on who has the better economy. In this case both VP and Envy were snowballing.

2015-09-01 16:29

What do you mean? At katowice they nearly lost 2 - 0 to nip if it wasn't for that tec9 rush on short on dust 2 at 14 - 14 where allu missed those 2 shots

2015-08-29 16:39

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Are you telling me that NiP looked overall better than Fnatic in Katowice? They nearly lost to TSM who weren't that great at the time, in the quarter finals.

2015-08-29 18:16

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No, I'm not. I'm telling you that fnatic didn't look better at katowice

2015-08-29 18:21

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Fnatic dropped 2 maps this tournament and only one, in the final, in Katowice. The competition was also better in Katowice as most of those teams, except for Vox and Fside were actually performing quite well.

2015-08-29 18:25

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You are right, I'm just telling you that they nearly lost to nip

2015-08-30 14:59

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Well yeah it was a major final. That final was actually very entertaining to watch. The one in Cologne was so boring.

2015-08-30 16:09

Nearly lost, yes and how many times NIP nearly lost because of Fnatic missed some shots? Dont be a butthurt fanboy. Everytime it gets close fnatic still win.

2015-08-30 11:43

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I'm not a nip fanboy. My point is that those shots actually looked like they hit and it was because of hit register. Who knows what would have happened if they had hit.

2015-08-30 14:55

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Yes, every team has these shots, no need to single them out...

2015-09-01 15:47

1 reply

of course, cause the game is shit.

2015-09-01 16:22

fnatic ez. you're a faggot, case closed

2015-08-30 05:13

2 replies

Good thing you're not retarded...

2015-08-30 10:14

1 reply

Can't say the same thing about you... sorry

2015-08-30 19:39

It was 5 days before Cologne and TSM won 16-4 on de_inferno and 16-10 on de_dust2

2015-08-29 14:54

haahaahahahahah, tsm cant even win against nv

2015-09-01 15:44

First

2015-08-29 13:05

2015-08-29 13:06

By the looks of prize money distribution this is not a bo5 format, it looks like that they will play all 5 maps no matter of score, so could end up like 4-1. Is this correct? If that's the case, it's not BO5. More like winners takes all format. Also money distribution suggest that it will be fixed for 2:2 score before 5th map. If that's not case, then why some maps worth more? Here's strategy: You pick your worst two maps against particular opponent and bank all on last 3 maps, you potentially could get 70k SEK instead of 50k.

2015-08-29 13:15

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Hope so, and should be like that :)

2015-08-29 13:09

They'll play all five maps no matter what. One team can win 3-0 and they'll still have to play the last 2 maps. The one winning 3 maps however will be through to the season 5 LAN final.

2015-08-29 18:11

Woa cool

2015-08-29 13:07

Fnatic to loose first two maps, then win last 3, calling it now

2015-08-29 13:11

4 replies

Why win 3 maps, why not win them all? They'll play all 5 maps anyway.

2015-08-29 13:13

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No, they won't. It's regular bo5 rules, they're trying to make it so that the closer the series gets, the bigger the stakes, while giving the loser a chance to get some $ as well

2015-08-29 13:22

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The match isn't over when one team wins 3 maps. They'll play all five maps no matter what.

2015-08-29 17:22

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Ah, I can't even read. My bad. That's stupid.

2015-08-30 00:57

Rofl if TSM win,free invite undeserved.TSM cant beat ENvy navi TSM,can only beat fnatic,not fair imo.

2015-08-29 13:12

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Fnatic and tsm were the last fragbite Champions, would be undeserved if envy or navi would be invited since havent made it

2015-08-29 13:25

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+1 also navi and envy cant beat fnc only tsm so thehy dont deserve it either. logic.

2015-08-29 14:38

lol about NV you are right, about Na'vi and all the other teams it goes like this. TSM beats Na'vi 10 times, loses 1 = Cant beat Na'Vi. Beats VP 10 times, loses 1 = Cant beat VP. So yeah I dont understand that logic.

2015-08-29 16:03

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Rofl,TSM beats VP 1 time,loses 20 times,you got your stats all wrong mate. TSM has beaten VP 1 time on lan in last 1-1.5 years,and maybe 2-3 times online in total. Dont believe me? go dig up the stats lol,TSM beating VP is like a "once in a blue moon" event.

2015-08-29 16:52

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yeah I remember now usually TSM loses to VP, even when they were in their best form they struggled vs VP.

2015-08-29 17:25

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Exactly :)

2015-08-29 19:27

I hardly consider a victory against the best team in the world as a "free invite", regardless of performance against certain teams. (keep in mind TSM was only invited for winning a previous Fragbite tournament as well, which they worked for)

2015-08-29 21:02

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Surprisingly, TSM have fnatic's number,but struggle against VP everytime and other teams occasionally . NIP are the ones who are always invited.

2015-08-29 21:17

winner get qualified for fragbite masters without having to do the online qualifer stage with like 15+ games atleast, its pretty good price

2015-08-29 13:14

Nah....still.cannot beat they hype of a TSM fnatic major final :D

2015-08-29 13:14

2015-08-29 13:15

Cool

2015-08-29 13:25

Facebook showdown? Fighting more most likes, ez TSM

2015-08-29 13:27

Not ez but TSM WON THIS

2015-08-29 13:38

Oh snap.

2015-08-29 13:38

"torunament"

2015-08-29 13:44

Sweedish dollars you say?

2015-08-29 13:45

So obv there will be some throws because its good for both teams to play 5maps, so no 3-0

2015-08-29 13:51

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Read again before you even dare to talk about throws... All 5 maps will be played, it doesn't matter if one team already won.

2015-08-30 11:38

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Oh, my mistake

2015-08-30 12:08

easy for the best team in the history of cs.

2015-08-29 13:52

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yes. ez for tsm

2015-08-29 13:53

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sorry they won no major ever.. fnatic won 3.. 0 to 3.. 0 majors, 0, 0 majors, tsm have won 0 majors, TSM 0 majors, how many finals have tsm been in the major oh 0, so they have won 0 majors and been in 0 finals of majors, nice team. real nice, 0 majors

2015-08-29 15:09

4 replies

you seem like a machine about to explode...

2015-08-30 08:42

You fell so hard for the bait :D

2015-08-30 16:09

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i'm the one that baits people lol, I must have just been baked to shit and wanted to rant, most fun thing to do when stoned, talk shit C:

2015-08-31 05:18

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Then i got baited :D

2015-09-01 13:01

12 year old detected.

2015-08-29 15:01

13 replies

been playing cs longer then that haha.

2015-08-29 15:08

12 replies

You should've gone to school instead..

2015-08-29 15:18

5 replies

Don't be a fucking dickhead on a forum thinking you know shit. Jesus christ. What the fuck does school do for you in life lol. ohhh learn 1+1.. grats.

2015-08-29 15:45

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Your spelling would probably be a bit better, first of all

2015-08-29 18:01

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says someone who had to edit their shit to get their point of view across that didn't have anything to do with anything in the first place, just wanted to say something for the hell of it to be cool, grats man.

2015-08-31 05:19

2 replies

Someone's mad. EDIT: Just for the edit

2015-08-31 07:47

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i don't get it, whos mad?

2015-08-31 15:08

Too hard to believe it. You're a Fnatic fanboy as well as an olofmeister fanboy. Worst combination I can think of.

2015-08-29 15:29

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I support fnatic yes, have since 2006, it's like supporting a football club and sticking too them till the end, you know loyalty, not a retard like you?

2015-08-29 15:46

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Great achievement being the best ever on a game with 2 and a half years. lmao.

2015-08-29 16:04

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wtf are you on about idiot? Why are you replying to me with something so dumb it hurts my brain to read.

2015-08-29 16:16

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Dumb? lol. The longer the years of the game the more contest for the best team ever. There was only like 2 periods of dominance in cs go lol.

2015-08-29 17:27

How do you know that I'm not loyal to the team that I support?

2015-08-29 18:06

12 K Prize Pool.. Throws inc..

2015-08-29 13:56

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And then winner is directly invited to FB masters, therefore can skip the online qual stage which is about 10 games. And all five maps will be played anyways. No Fucking reason to throw...

2015-08-30 11:42

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HMM you are right but i think some throws inc this tournament..

2015-08-30 22:39

would rather see Fnatic vs nV tbh

2015-08-29 13:59

2ez4fnatic

2015-08-29 14:00

diz gun bi gud

2015-08-29 14:00

This is some good shit ;)

2015-08-29 14:06

Although one team may lose the series, it doesn't necessarily mean they go home empty-handed. To keep the intensity of the match, and to make it logical for the teams to finish the whole series, all maps will have its own prize pool that gradually increases the longer the match goes. In other words, even the team that lose the best of five itself can still get quite a good chunk of money for their efforts.

2015-08-29 14:41

This > some random event

2015-08-29 15:14

ez fanatikus fulsharino gg tsm no chance my frends

2015-08-29 15:20

Ez rigged Ofcthey will agree to play more maps=more cash fragbite mafia

2015-08-29 15:22

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rofl dumbass even if one team wins the first 3 maps, the last two will still be played (clearly says it if you know how to read) in that case why agree to throw a map or two, would actually be less cash

2015-08-29 16:16

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Omg so blind How can you not see fragbite mafia So delusional Semmler clearly half-italian mafioso Anders tryhard polishes the pistols for mafia bosses because inhuman scrape ability Clueless burger Learn to READ BEHIND THE LINES!!!

2015-08-29 22:46

5 maps inc.

2015-08-29 15:54

YAY Facebook showdown

2015-08-29 16:04

Anders&Semmler HYPE

2015-08-29 16:15

Damn hopefully I get to see it live

2015-08-29 16:40

5th map confirmed lol, they want money$$$

2015-08-29 16:46

fnatic ez win, sry guys

2015-08-29 16:49

TSM as always. Doesn't matter if you win a major when you don't change your playstyle at all

2015-08-29 16:55

Nice so after TSM got owned by Envy 4 0 at IEM we will now see them go down 5 0 to fnatic. Gonna be a good show

2015-08-29 17:11

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you must be new here

2015-08-29 22:49

Man this showdown would be even more sick, instead of bo5 why not raise the bar for all current active maps being played out? that would be freaking sweat, sure it would be a marathon, but after 4 maps they can make a break of 1h if players agree so!

2015-08-29 17:39