ESL Dubai event group draw

2-9-2015 16:07

The group draw for the ESL ESEA Pro League Invitational in Dubai has taken place, with the eight participants having learned their fate in the competition.

ESL and ESEA will be hosting from September 10-12 a $250,000 invitational tournament in Dubai as part of GAMES 15, an annual expo dedicated to the video gaming industry.

The competition will see the eight participants split into two groups of four teams, who will compete in a best-of-one, double-elimination stage.

Cologne champions fnatic will take on Titan in the first round

The top two sides from each group will automatically advance to the single-elimination playoffs, which will use a best-of-three format in the semi-finals and a best-of-five format in the title decider.

Below you can find the group draw in full:

Group A	Group B
EnVyUs	fnatic
Virtus.pro	TSM
NiP	Null element Na`Vi
Cloud9	Titan

Meanwhile, ESL has revealed the complete prize distribution for the three-day tournament, which will see the winner take home $100,000 - the exact same prize that the winner of a major gets.

The full prize breakdown is the following:

1. $100,000
2. $60,000
3-4. $25,000
5-6. $12,500
7-8. $7,500

fnatic ez

2015-09-02 16:08

40 replies

TSM > fnatic Kappa. jk no Kappa

2015-09-02 16:10

16 replies

Hehee , anyway very interesting groups

2015-09-02 18:39

14 replies

interesting? fnatic, tsm nv, vp they are making it so clear, they put the top2 teams of the groups on top still hltv kids cant see it LOL. fnatic nv final once again if they dont face each other in semis.

2015-09-02 21:46

11 replies

Maybe you are that "hltv kid" Fnatic fanboy lol gj Why do you think navi couldnt beat fnatic or tsm? And maybe cloud9 will suprise again? I personally dont trust nip magic kappa But still , every team has a chance to win. Maybe you should learn that

2015-09-02 22:01

Going to lough so hard when NiP get's through the group as #1. ;)

2015-09-02 22:43

7 replies

Nip is going to win the whole shit, they kill fnatic in semis and ruin nV in the final. Allu will finally step up now that he really doesnt give a fuck anymore Gtr going to take his dick out when he touches the trophy and all the guys get a good laugh and gtr gets pedophilia charge. You heard it here first, thank me later

2015-09-03 00:01

5 replies

Keppo

2015-09-03 07:27

pedophilia charge in dubai , i dont think so m8.

2015-09-03 15:12

1 reply

2015-09-06 14:01

I think we told them what was going to happen. ;)

2015-09-11 18:32

1 reply

Yes:D we changed the future.

2015-09-12 11:27

that's what nip fangays thought about nipple at the esl cologne 2015

2015-09-05 14:52

umm, ofc nip vs vp

2015-09-03 15:09

thats way too Judgemental... its CS bro.. anyone can win :)

2015-09-03 19:20

no LG no interesting xd

2015-09-03 00:06

1 reply

I doubt they would beat any other team than Titan.

2015-09-03 17:10

fnatic ez tsm has no change

2015-09-02 20:23

We will see. Envy might beat them

2015-09-02 16:09

10 replies

Kenny crys again

2015-09-02 16:17

1 reply

hahahahaha

2015-09-02 16:23

flusha gonna make kenny cri again

2015-09-02 16:28

5 replies

fnatic gonna get flusha'd down the toilet by envy lmao

2015-09-02 17:38

4 replies

orly? cuz that have happened before rite?

2015-09-02 17:51

3 replies

yes. DH winter + MLG x-games ))))

2015-09-02 22:01

2 replies

dh winter. failfish

2015-09-02 23:22

1 reply

huge fail xD fnatic raped them at DHW

2015-09-03 08:58

haha kenny gonna drag down whole team again m8

2015-09-02 17:22

will be interesting to see new nv vs c9

2015-09-02 23:42

nv ez

2015-09-02 16:24

rip c9, we hardly knew ye

2015-09-02 16:24

ez vp

2015-09-02 16:27

Obviously if VP go through group stage, they'll face Fnatic. Written by polish faggot

2015-09-02 20:10

yep. my list of who could win most likely to least likely 1. Fnatic 2. EnVyUs 3/4. TSM/VP 3/4. TSM/VP 5. NaVi 6. C9 7. NiP 8. Titan

2015-09-03 07:28

6 replies

fanboyism inc. its more likely that nip wins than c9 just because they are EU*

2015-09-03 08:59

c9 > TSM/VP

2015-09-04 10:14

4 replies

Man... that's just... being a big fanboy lol C9 are not that good... they managed to beat some good teams recently, including fnatic, just because they surprised them. They knew how the others teams play and c9 made counter-strats...that's it... Now the best teams which are participating in this tournament know how to play vs c9 and can beat them. In Cologne mouz won against c9. VP almost got to the finals of Cologne and TSM made it to the semi-finals. C9 couldn't go there. That's my opinion.

2015-09-04 11:10

2 replies

c9 beat mouz at cologne though...

2015-09-05 19:34

1 reply

oops my bad :D

2015-09-07 17:28

VP is the NA's cryptonite but KDEN

2015-09-04 11:46

pakistan for the win

2015-09-06 07:34

NICE

2015-09-02 16:08

great story

2015-09-02 16:08

nice

2015-09-02 16:08

difficult groups for all teams tbh

2015-09-02 16:08

14 replies

they're supposed to be the top 8 teams in the world so yeah

2015-09-02 16:21

13 replies

titan not top 8 imo

2015-09-02 16:41

12 replies

True, but they can thank shox and SmithZz for getting that spot. ^^ Who should have gotten it instead of Titan? Mousesports/Dignitas?

2015-09-02 16:43

11 replies

Mouz, dignitas, kinguin, lg but im happy that titan is there

2015-09-02 16:48

9 replies

I don't agree on Kinguin, but yea, the other three seems to be quite good. But any of these teams would probably get destroyed against these teams anyways, so what ever. ^^

2015-09-02 16:51

8 replies

Dignitas over Kinguin? nt dane

2015-09-02 17:10

6 replies

its based on esl ranking u moron kinguin is way below dig

2015-09-02 17:18

Ehh? Yes, they are way better than Kinguin, lel.. Mousesports are also better than Kinguin..

2015-09-02 19:25

2 replies

Rofl biased danish, Dignitas didn't even make it through the qualifiers after losing to kinguin, and mouz got rekt at the event itself. no h8 m8 just stating facts.

2015-09-03 00:10

1 reply

I'm not a fan of dignitas, nor a fan of tsm. I am a Titan fan, and I've been that even before csgo came out. But Dignitas and Mousesports are two better teams, I don't know why you would argue with that, but you'll figure it out in the future.

2015-09-03 11:58

DIG is way better than kinguin. kinguin is shit.

2015-09-03 13:58

As of right now i would say that Dignitas is still above Kinguin all though Dignitas has been rly off lately but so has Kinguin or at least kinda unstable with some of their latest performences. With that being said i wont be surprised if Kinguin will slowly stabilize at the top of tier 2 together with Mouz and HR. And who knows mby Titan can make a comeback to the top of tier 2, they have definitely been doing better lately.

2015-09-03 14:04

I surely respect your opinion but kinguin showed that they are able to play vs any team... Its hard to say but its pretty sad that these teams dont have an opportunity to play this event (mouz, digni, lg and kinguin)

2015-09-02 22:52

Luminosity imo

2015-09-02 16:48

Let's go Titan!!

2015-09-02 16:08

Titan gon get rip

2015-09-02 16:08

titan? rly?

2015-09-02 16:08

better luck TSM

2015-09-02 16:08

Titan and EnVy not in the same group wattafak

2015-09-02 16:08

1 reply

Ha.

2015-09-02 23:57

EnVy VirtusPro Fnatic NaVi Very interesting groups Kappa

2015-09-02 16:09

"Wtf am i doing here" -Titan

2015-09-02 16:09

Poor Titan :,(

2015-09-02 16:09

bo1 groups and bo3 playoff :/

2015-09-02 16:09

[*] Titan

2015-09-02 16:09

Envy, Virtus pro and C9 in 1 group fucking expected

2015-09-02 16:09

1 reply

2015-09-02 17:24

holy shit Group A looks insane NiP vs Cloud9 HYPE ! pls make bo3 in groups

2015-09-02 16:10

1 reply

Both groups are obvious. A: nV, VP B: Fn, TSM

2015-09-02 21:43

RIP C9

2015-09-02 16:10

holy shit edit: rip nip

2015-09-02 16:10

1 reply

ye I love NiP but it's not NiP's time yet, they have a lot of work to do to take on most of these teams. So ye, rip nip

2015-09-02 23:25

c9 vs nip hype

2015-09-02 16:10

rip nip Kappa

2015-09-02 16:10

ez titan xD

2015-09-02 16:10

OMG WHY

2015-09-02 16:10

There will come a day when VP and C9 are in different groups, but that day is not today

2015-09-02 16:10

4 replies

lol nip also has been whit vp and c9 many times

2015-09-02 16:11

1 reply

not really, nip played like once vs c9, and vp-nip never played in groups

2015-09-02 16:23

Every god damn time ! it can't be random

2015-09-02 17:14

1 reply

It seems set up for sure

2015-09-03 06:34

NiP always the easiest group they said

2015-09-02 16:10

4 replies

Group A is easier

2015-09-02 16:11

it is the easier group LOL tsm fnatic navi > vp clown9 envy us

2015-09-02 16:22

erm their group is easier, again so... yeah need a gun?

2015-09-02 16:39

but still 1,EnVy 2.VP 3.NiP 4.C9

2015-09-02 18:55

final^ titan - nip

2015-09-02 16:10

dayum

2015-09-02 16:10

Why is Titan even in this mouz will destroy them with niko

2015-09-02 16:10

so tsm got in thanks to the crying spree?

2015-09-02 16:11

mouz should play there instead of titan. the are way better. tuck fitan

2015-09-02 16:11

1 reply

Yeah, mouz is better than titan imo.

2015-09-03 00:36

when is this event?

2015-09-02 16:11

Ez group for envy NA fangays to cry when c9 get out in groups without taking a single map

2015-09-02 16:12

Group A and Group B seem pretty tough.

2015-09-02 16:12

bo1 again wtf

2015-09-02 16:12

Bo1 groups again?

2015-09-02 16:12

Na'Vi lucky group as always Kapp(a)chino

2015-09-02 16:13

nice!

2015-09-02 16:13

Nip ez group as always

2015-09-02 16:13

1 reply

But NV,VP & C9 > NIP

2015-09-02 16:22

TSM, fnatic, EnvyUS and VP, should make pretty good semis.

2015-09-02 16:13

Group A Envyus VP Group B Fnatic TSM/Navi Tsm has problems playing against navi :p

2015-09-02 16:13

envyus vs cloud9 omg cant wait opening match

2015-09-02 16:13

5 replies

I'm kinda expecting VP vs C9 first match because these 2 teams seem to be attracted to each other ^.^

2015-09-02 16:21

4 replies

Site esl the first matches will be envyus vs cloud nip vs vp fnatic vs titan tsm vs navi

2015-09-02 16:27

1 reply

oh didn't know they announced the match-ups, thanks. Should be a fun match. Guessing it comes down to train, dust or overpass

2015-09-02 18:59

? C9 isnt attracted to anyone dont be delusional

2015-09-02 16:31

1 reply

c9 is attracted, against VP.

2015-09-02 17:32

yes! tsm doesnt face nv- ez group for them

2015-09-02 16:14

i'd like to see c9 break their slump and at least make it out of groups, but i doubt it will happen tbh. same with nip. i think it's fair to say VP, Envy, TSM, Fnatic will make the semis

2015-09-02 16:16

why is vp always with cloud9 D:

2015-09-02 16:17

1 reply

and envyus lol so many times @ gfinity.

2015-09-02 16:23

RIP NIP

2015-09-02 16:18

1.....fnatic 2.....envyus 3-4...tsm,vp 5-6...navi,c9

2015-09-02 16:18

ez fnatic, but there are 8 teams...and still bo1's lol maybe if c9 somehow avoided vp, i'm not getting my hopes up, but it's bo1 so who knows

2015-09-02 16:24

Damn! Those groups. RIP NiP I guess. If only we had Mouz for Titan instead. Would love to see Niko against TSM, Fnatic and Na'Vi. I think Mouz and Kinguin should've been here though.

2015-09-02 16:19

3 replies

Kinguin? no bro :(

2015-09-02 16:24

1 reply

Well I'm obviously biased cuz I'm a Maikelele fan, but still they are a interesting side and their unorthodox style of play is very amusing to watch, plus they have a pretty large following who would love to see them play.

2015-09-02 18:33

kinguin? they are a joke.

2015-09-03 14:08

SEMIS VP vs TSM EnVy vs fnatic FINAL VP vs fnatic - RIP VP

2015-09-02 16:20

I predict the same final four from Cologne. Agreed? Will VP do the unthinkable? Will nV show why they are the new flavor of the month? Will TSM finally get a huge deserved win? Or will fnatic show us once again why we hate watching three day events? XD "You can basically predict the top 4 already" -flushykins

2015-09-02 16:21

2 replies

Do u ever stfu?

2015-09-02 16:33

1 reply

Umad?

2015-09-02 18:23

vp and c9, forever together <3

2015-09-02 16:20

c9 and vp in same group again as expected hahah xDD

2015-09-02 16:21

rip vp

2015-09-02 16:22

so many 250k tournaments happening in such a short space of time!

2015-09-02 16:22

group b of death

2015-09-02 16:23

vp with c9 again wtf is dis

2015-09-02 16:23

1 reply

ESL just wants to see vp rape america hard.

2015-09-02 16:25

does anyone know roughly what times the matches will start and end in europe?

2015-09-02 16:23

Sick draw for TSM, ez wins against fnatic & Titan, might struggle against Na`Vi

2015-09-02 16:24

2 replies

Matches gonna be TSM vs Titan ez TSM Fnatic vs NaVi ez Fnatic then TSM vs Fnatic ez TSM

2015-09-02 16:26

1 reply

fnatic vs titan tsm vs navi cloud9 vs nv nip vs vp site esl

2015-09-02 16:35

Omg this tournie will be amazing xD

2015-09-02 16:25

VP, NiP, Fnatic, Navi ;)

2015-09-02 16:25

rip nip

2015-09-02 16:26

if titan go through this i will rape myself with a stick

2015-09-02 16:28

c9 hype

2015-09-02 16:28

Seriously, VP drawn with C9 again. Saying that i wouldnt like them to be in Group B as they would come last if swapped with titan.

2015-09-02 16:28

Are they seriously gonna fly 4 teams to Dubai to play 2 BO1s? Why not just remove NIP, C9, Titan, Navi and save the plane tickets?

2015-09-02 16:28

1 reply

only fly and meet dubai is awesome

2015-09-02 16:34

nV, VP, fnatic, TSM

2015-09-02 16:29

what a suprise 2 find NiP in group A, nah. EnVy - fnatic cu

2015-09-02 16:31

lol rip titan and nip

2015-09-02 16:31

8 teams, 250k and bo1? what the fuck esl, what the fuck

2015-09-02 16:32

1 reply

yeah, its a huge joke they keep doing bo1. im gonna boycut ESL if they dont change it up soon(no i wont obv. but sure feel like it). FFS ESL.

2015-09-03 14:12

nip always getting easy group >.<

2015-09-02 16:32

C9 might not show up at all in this tournament, the other group would have Been better for them

2015-09-02 16:32

rip titan and navi xD

2015-09-02 16:32

ez for nip

2015-09-02 16:33

8 highly competitive teams. This should be really entertaining to watch.

2015-09-02 16:34

Group B OP

2015-09-02 16:34

vp and c9 in same group? expected

2015-09-02 16:35

wait wait ! what did i miss . TSM and titan werent in the tourney at first, only top 6 teams !? hltv.org/news/15612-dubai-to-host-250000..

2015-09-02 16:36

2 replies

they expanded to 8 teams

2015-09-02 16:39

1 reply

aaaa find it :) hltv.org/news/15794-tsm-titan-invited-to..

2015-09-02 16:42

its major or not?

2015-09-02 16:37

1 reply

major will be dreamhack cluj

2015-09-02 16:40

rip Cloud9

2015-09-02 16:37

damn the tournament will be exciting!

2015-09-02 16:39

best of 1 zzzzzzzz

2015-09-02 16:42

I can only see C9 going to playoffs if they win 2-0.

2015-09-02 16:44

Group A is waaaay harder and this should be looked into cause it's becoming ridiculous; NV,C9 and VP are ALWAYS in the same group, especially C9 and VP.

2015-09-02 16:48

2 replies

Groub A harder? smart guy right here:)

2015-09-03 14:15

1 reply

We'll see smartass :)

2015-09-03 15:20

Why in the world would there ever be bo1 when there's only 8 teams and an entire weekend to play this tournament?

2015-09-02 16:49

By motar2k

2015-09-02 16:49

Again c9 will fly for vacation. Nice place for a holiday.

2015-09-02 16:51

1. nV 2. VP 3. NiP 4. C9 1. TSM 2. fnatic 3. Na`Vi 4. Titan

2015-09-02 16:53

Gg nip and c9 out in groups

2015-09-02 16:54

I actually think Envy will take this.

2015-09-02 16:56

more like "Cologne champions fnatic will rape Titan in the first round"

2015-09-02 16:56

lol group B so ez for fnatic & TSM Group A 4tighter teams

2015-09-02 16:57

ez group for cloud9 cry about your skins later france

2015-09-02 16:57

c9 and vp :D ALWAYS

2015-09-02 16:59

Group A - Group of Death

2015-09-02 17:01

bo5 grand final

2015-09-02 17:03

GO TSM!!!!!!!!!

2015-09-02 17:06

Hope nV wins this, they deserved.

2015-09-02 17:06

All maps are T sided in Dubai... goold luck C9

2015-09-02 17:06

Ez navi

2015-09-02 17:08

final: fnatic x envyus fnatic win

2015-09-02 17:08

Rip titan lol

2015-09-02 17:09

ENVY VP AND C9 IN SAME GROUP AGAIN! #RIGGED

2015-09-02 17:14

Nicely Stacked. One of the only time going out in groups is not totally a shame.

2015-09-02 17:14

ez c9

2015-09-02 17:14

AGAIN C9 with VP in same group..

2015-09-02 17:15

C9, NiP and VP in the same group, boy ESL sure knows how to get the fanboys watching ayyyy

2015-09-02 17:16

fnatic out in groups for sure, after a team wins a major they suck a few months xD

2015-09-02 17:24

again nip in ez group

2015-09-02 17:24

Lol rip titan

2015-09-02 17:27

VP, C9 and nV Why I'm not surprised

2015-09-02 17:29

swap vp and tsm and it's 10 times better

2015-09-02 17:31

1 reply

+1.5

2015-09-02 17:34

free 7500 for titan and c9

2015-09-02 17:34

Envy vs fnatic again.

2015-09-02 17:35

c9 always in group with VP, concidence? I dont think so. 1.Envy vs TSM 2. VP vs fnatic final: fnatic vs Envy fnatic gg

2015-09-02 17:39

rip everyone that plays fnatic

2015-09-02 17:40

group a intresting group b should be ez for fnatic and tsm

2015-09-02 17:40

Fnatic in group with Titan and Navi again, C9 in group with VP and nV. Nothing new here.

2015-09-02 17:41

RIP C9/NIP

2015-09-02 17:42

NiP ez group again?

2015-09-02 17:43

maybe this time we will see VP vs Fnatic in semis ! . . . OH WAIT

2015-09-02 17:45

c9 out in groups again

2015-09-02 17:45

titan out in groups. :')

2015-09-02 17:46

2 replies

It is hard to get out of groups when there is the top3 teams in your group 1fnatic 2tsm 2navi

2015-09-02 17:47

1 reply

thanks captain

2015-09-03 08:31

rip nip

2015-09-02 17:52

top top top champ!

2015-09-02 17:53

-Titan + Kinguin

2015-09-02 17:56

esl easily gonna profit cuz lowest price is 100 dhs lol

2015-09-02 18:00

BO1 once again FUCKING RETARDS

2015-09-02 18:01

A VP NV B FNATIC TSM/NAVI

2015-09-02 18:02

What's up with C9 always being in VP's group?

2015-09-02 18:07

Is there a teamspeak POV ? looking forward to it...

2015-09-02 18:07

Finally some good groups

2015-09-02 18:10

group b is like 3 best teams in the world and titan

2015-09-02 18:14

1 reply

n0pe VP and nV > Na'Vi , TSM

2015-09-02 18:17

C9 HAHA

2015-09-02 18:16

A 1 NV 2 VP 3 C9 4 NiP B 1 Fnatic 2 Na'Vi 3 TSM 4 Titan

2015-09-02 18:16

Na'Vi fans' reaction FAK

2015-09-02 18:19

1 reply

That would be Titans reaction. Frankly i want to see these match ups, if na'vi want to get out group they need to step up and beat fnatic/tsm.

2015-09-02 23:36

i see vp vs envy

2015-09-02 18:22

This is the stupidest format in the world. They should have just made it into a double elimination bo3 bracket. No bo1 groups bullshit. Its sad that One of Fnatic Navi and Tsm arent going to be past groups. Atleast now teams wont be mad to lose they get to explore dubai. and they get a paid trip there so orgs lose nothing. and they get 7k for 8th place So i guess its a win/win

2015-09-02 18:25

1 reply

ESL never do double elim

2015-09-02 19:47

Anyone but fnatic, pls ;-;

2015-09-02 18:31

My three favorite teams are in the same group (In order: NiP/C9/VP)! :(

2015-09-02 18:34

C'mon Titan! ShoxEzPzLmnSqz! :)

2015-09-02 18:36

rip titan xd

2015-09-02 18:39

RIP CLOWN9

2015-09-02 18:45

c9 nightmare

2015-09-02 18:49

GO NiP!!!

2015-09-02 18:50

What if ESL trade C9 and Titan, I mean always the same fcking matches C9 vs VP, C9 vs nV. And this time I believe that C9 is not going to win even vs nV, apex is on point and kennyS is decent atm, although they could win against NiP because they are sucking right now.

2015-09-02 18:58

Hahahaha NV paid how much to play in this so easy group ? Titan so unlucky have to play top 1 top 2 and top 3 world

2015-09-02 19:11

3 replies

to Titan it doesnt matter, they would get raped in any group they play.

2015-09-02 19:13

2 replies

It would have been easy in first group C9 and Nip r not better than titan and they can beat NV as they perfectly know them

2015-09-02 19:17

1 reply

That's a horrible reason for why a team can beat another. Envy also knew Titan before and Titan could never beat them, ever, even though all or most of them were from the french scene and knew one or the other in at least one way. On top of that, the current line-up for Envy is really working out for them in terms of teamwork, Apex and Kenny are in good forms with them too. They're much stronger than Titan atm, and just because "they know them" means nothing. Happy could easily be concealing new strats that the old members from Titan don't know about for Majors, just like how the other teams could be as well.

2015-09-04 13:20

Hahah again again and again Clown9 with VP anyway VP nV NaVi TSM Final VP NaVi Winner VP ggwp Fnatic sucks hard Guardian and cajunb gonna rape them

2015-09-02 19:11

Wow free 100k for Fnatic again lel

2015-09-02 19:12

1 reply

That would make their tournament winnings about $700,000 just this year (I think...). That's fucking insane.

2015-09-02 19:28

-c9 +kinguin

2015-09-02 19:17

NiP and Titan should've been switched

2015-09-02 19:18

lol navi will be top 1 on this major

2015-09-02 19:19

VP vs fnatic in semis again.

2015-09-02 19:33

ENVYUS ez

2015-09-02 19:45

another ez tournament for fnatic

2015-09-02 20:06

but why bo1 in groups? cmon

2015-09-02 20:08

Group A:Envy,VP Group B:Fnatic,TSM Semifinals:VP vs Fnatic EnVy vs TSM Final:EnVy vs Fnatic so ez Fnatic Interesting event is coming

2015-09-02 20:10

an other ez 100k for fnatic :D

2015-09-02 20:45

Lmao Titan are gonna get blown the fuck out

2015-09-02 20:55

c9 is fucked :C

2015-09-02 20:56

1. fnatic 2. TSM 3. EnVyUs 4. Na´Vi 5. Virtus.Pro 6. NiP 7. Cloud9 8. Titan, although Kinguin deserves the spot.

2015-09-02 20:58

GO VP !

2015-09-02 21:07

Really, Top 3 teams in one group. Shit seeds.

2015-09-02 21:17

a best-of-one, double-elimination stage..... Eight fucking team... 8!!!! And you still can't fucking do BO3!? GTFO

2015-09-02 21:24

should be easy for nip

2015-09-02 21:34

[*] Titan

2015-09-02 21:41

ez nip

2015-09-02 21:41

great prize and great competition

2015-09-02 22:07

So obvious ESL is stopping NA from winning a big tournament purposely putting them with VP in every group. We are on to you ESL and just accept NA is better

2015-09-02 22:08

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LOL

2015-09-02 23:12

Honestly don't see that much of a difference. Even if C9 swapped with one of the teams from group B, they'd still have to face Fnatic/TSM/Navi, TSM/Navi/Titan, Fnatic/TSM/Titan, Fnatic/Navi/Titan. The only team they have a supposedly "actual" chance to beat is Titan. And they still won't get out of Groupstage because either way they'll have to face either Fnatic, TSM or Navi at least once and maybe even all of them more then once.

2015-09-04 13:33

c9 and vp together what a surprise jk always

2015-09-02 22:15

rip C9

2015-09-02 22:25

Can we get dropped souvenir packages or no?

2015-09-02 22:26

Jesus christ WORST GROUPS EVER! i cri everitiem for you organizers.. jesus.. full time job and still do this bad groups..

2015-09-02 22:31

rip c9 looking forward to them vs nip hopefully

2015-09-02 22:36

What the fuck BO1 again?

2015-09-02 22:49

R.I.P Titan again. =[

2015-09-02 23:18

best-of-one, double-elimination stage.

2015-09-02 23:20

Calling it! NV will win Group A. TSM will win Group B.

2015-09-02 23:21

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2 Teams will go on from both groups. total of 4 from EU and 4 from NA.

2015-09-04 13:45

bo1 zzzzz

2015-09-02 23:27

8 teams and no bo3,you cant make this stuff up hjhahahah

2015-09-02 23:36

fnatic tsm navi all in the same group LMAO @ESL youtube.com/watch?v=sZ6H4DuJgMU&feature=..

2015-09-02 23:41

Meh. So many tournaments this year. Almost getting tired of watching CS. I'm guessing Fnatic, or TSM (if they don't choke in the groups again) will win this as usual when all the top teanms are there.

2015-09-02 23:46

No offence though, this event will be won by any of the top 4 teams, fnatic are hard favorites. But TSM, VP, Envy, Navi might upset fnatic and win it

2015-09-02 23:50

boooring rerun from cologne nv and vp fnatic and TSM semis: fnatic>vp and nv>tsm final: fnatic>nv bo1 group stages is the only thing in profesional csgo scene right now that can produce any kind of upsets.

2015-09-02 23:56

Bad format in groupstage considering the low amount of teams.

2015-09-02 23:59

was taken away nip and titan and put LG and mouz, would be the eight best teams in the world

2015-09-03 00:13

#GONINJAS Please dont be eliminated on quarter-finals... wut

2015-09-03 00:34

i think nip has no chance here

2015-09-03 00:37

c9 vp, fnatic tsm

2015-09-03 00:40

Paid 7,500$ to participate. nice

2015-09-03 01:10

Not expecting Cloud9 to make it out of groups sadly, but I actually can't remember an international LAN event that they have attended with VP where they were in separate groups since Cologne '14. Anyone else noticing that or just me? Not trying to sound whiny just confused as to why VP and Cloud9 are paired up so often. Also, NiP/Titan 7/8, Cloud9/TSM 5/6, nV/Na'Vi 3/4, Fnatic 2, Virtus Pro 1. Not a VP fan, just calling the upset.

2015-09-03 03:18

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There has to be something going on in the scenes, the odds literally were 1/8, 1/8, 1/4 etc

2015-09-03 06:38

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Actually ever since ESWC 14 they have been in the same group, this is almost the eighth fucking time in a row VP and C9 are in the same group

2015-09-03 15:05

Maybe they like to give VP free wins? VP pretty much destroys C9 on LAN every time. You can't counter strat the plow, and Neo/TaZ play insanely good against C9 for some reason everytime hard game for them. Fnatic or nV will win most likely, upset maybe Na'vi or VP.

2015-09-03 08:01

These groups are a joke. Swap NiP with either TSM or Navi.

2015-09-03 03:58

ESL promoting slavery by going to dubai,

2015-09-03 04:20

TSM win

2015-09-03 06:20

Some serious cash up for grabs here. I think Valve needs to step it's game up for the majors....

2015-09-03 08:12

EZ 4 C9 JK plz pray for NA

2015-09-03 08:39

Allu to carry all

2015-09-03 08:57

Prize money for everyone in an invite tournament...

2015-09-03 09:45

To be honest, i think the only team who whould have deserved really more the Titan' slot is Luminosity. Kinguin sucks right now, Titan lost a BO3 (1-2) but won 2-0 a BO2 vs Dignitas lately, and the game won by Titan was really more convincing than the close game Dignitas won. Mouz is slightly better than Titan but not that much, so all i can say is the fact Titan is playing is not that absurd. Mouz is improving with Niko, but i feel like Titan can improve more, so since the current level of these two teams is pretty close, even though Mouz is the better team, giving the slot to Titan is still fine. Only LG would have a real chance to win games in that tourney if they were playing instead of Titan, even though Titan can beat Na'Vi (i think the first game is Titan vs Fnatic, and TSM/NaVi - so TSM should win - and then the losers game between Titan and NaVi and Titan would have a decent chance vs NaVi. So yeah : Titan slightly better than Dignitas, probably close to Kinguin too, slighty weaker than Mouz, (really) weaker than LG but LG exposure isn't strong enough to also attract casual viewers like Titan can do IMO.

2015-09-03 12:15

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Titan beating Navi? Nawh, I don't think that's happening in a big tourney like this. Especially since Navi is known to prepare alot against the teams, so they'll probably get real serious there. People are saying top 3 teams on Group B, well that made me wonder what did that make Envy and VP then, but even still, Navi is indeed top 5 for sure. It doesn't seem to be as close as you're saying.

2015-09-04 13:52