Hiko joins Liquid

4-9-2015 02:19

Team Liquid have bolstered their lineup with free agent Spencer "Hiko" Martin, who has been trying for the team in the last two weeks.

Following Spencer "⁠Hiko⁠" Martin's departure from Cloud9 in December last year due to disagreements, the American star went through a period of unsuccessful attempts to make a new promising team in the North American scene.

Joining with iBUYPOWER back then went into shambles when most of the lineup got banned indefinitely for match-fixing, which resulted into Hiko taking a break from competitions.

Hiko finds a new home in Liquid

Later on he tried his luck in Nihilum, as he was unable to form a dreamteam with Tyler "⁠Skadoodle⁠" Latham within the North American scene, but that spell didn't last long either.

After a one-season attempt with Maximum Effort, one of North America's best in 2013 joins up with Liquid, who boast some of the players Hiko wanted to form a team with a few months ago.

The lurker has been trying out for the last two weeks, as he was seen in a few official matches in RGN and CEVO. Now the move is official and comes with an extensive statement, shedding light on Hiko's road since joining forces with Nihilum:

Today I am excited to announce a new chapter in my CS:GO Career. I am now a permanent player on Team Liquid.

I want to first talk about my time in Nihilum. I knew it was a risky move and I wanted to get my foot back into the competitive scene. When I first joined them, I was contacted by Semphis who was very confident that the team had huge potential and that we could possibly be a top team in the USA. Immediately it seemed apparent there were many problems with the team that existed in their core before Semphis and I even joined. We tried to make things work by making everyone feel comfortable and having their main spots but our roles were really messed up and we had two conflicting styles of calling which made us very inconsistent. Nihilum dropped us two weeks before the ESL Cologne qualifiers and the timing couldn’t have been worse because it killed our motivation heading into the event knowing we had no organizational support afterwards.

After failing to qualify for ESL Cologne I felt really bad and I think it sparked the passion that I had throughout most of my career. Looking around at my options, it seemed obvious that Liquid was my first choice but I wasn’t sure they were going to make a roster change after the qualifier. Everyone assumed there would be a big roster shuffle but nobody really knew what teams were going to change players. Fortunately for me, an old teammate and longtime friend of mine, James, ended up landing a coaching role with Liquid. He called me on the phone and asked what my plans were, and if there happened to be a spot on Liquid would I take it. The answer was immediately yes, and since I wasn’t contracted to Nihilum anymore there were no problems to just make the switch.

I’ve been standing in with the Liquid guys for about 2-3 weeks now and I’m happy to be able to call these guys my teammates. In this process however, people have branded me as a greedy person and I would like to explain a little as to why there were delays in this happening. Firstly, I assure you I am not making “2.5x or more” than the other players on my team. Secondly, I have personal deals and sponsorships that need to be honored, so it was a very slow back and forth process to figure out how to handle everything. I also want to address the idea that I kill teams or cause unnecessary drama in my teams; I have always and will always value long lasting rosters over team hopping.

I know I have previously said big organizations are a bad thing for players and they usually don’t treat players well, but I have worked with both owners of Liquid and I believe I will be much happier here than I was in previous teams. There’s a certain level of transparency I believe an organization needs to have, and I think Liquid has gone above and beyond what I’ve experienced in the past. It seems to me that Liquid treats their players very fair, and I respect them a lot for doing so. My heart and passion is still with the game and there’s only one thing I want moving forward: A Championship Title. I am excited to see what we are able to achieve with having such a solid organization behind us and I cannot wait to prove all of the haters wrong.

Thank you for all of your continued support, I cannot wait to see what we can achieve under the Liquid brand!

Today I am excited to announce a new chapter in my CS:GO Career. I am now a permanent player on Team Liquid.

I want to first talk about my time in Nihilum. I knew it was a risky move and I wanted to get my foot back into the competitive scene. When I first joined them, I was contacted by Semphis who was very confident that the team had huge potential and that we could possibly be a top team in the USA. Immediately it seemed apparent there were many problems with the team that existed in their core before Semphis and I even joined. We tried to make things work by making everyone feel comfortable and having their main spots but our roles were really messed up and we had two conflicting styles of calling which made us very inconsistent. Nihilum dropped us two weeks before the ESL Cologne qualifiers and the timing couldn’t have been worse because it killed our motivation heading into the event knowing we had no organizational support afterwards.

After failing to qualify for ESL Cologne I felt really bad and I think it sparked the passion that I had throughout most of my career. Looking around at my options, it seemed obvious that Liquid was my first choice but I wasn’t sure they were going to make a roster change after the qualifier. Everyone assumed there would be a big roster shuffle but nobody really knew what teams were going to change players. Fortunately for me, an old teammate and longtime friend of mine, James, ended up landing a coaching role with Liquid. He called me on the phone and asked what my plans were, and if there happened to be a spot on Liquid would I take it. The answer was immediately yes, and since I wasn’t contracted to Nihilum anymore there were no problems to just make the switch.

I’ve been standing in with the Liquid guys for about 2-3 weeks now and I’m happy to be able to call these guys my teammates. In this process however, people have branded me as a greedy person and I would like to explain a little as to why there were delays in this happening. Firstly, I assure you I am not making “2.5x or more” than the other players on my team. Secondly, I have personal deals and sponsorships that need to be honored, so it was a very slow back and forth process to figure out how to handle everything. I also want to address the idea that I kill teams or cause unnecessary drama in my teams; I have always and will always value long lasting rosters over team hopping.

I know I have previously said big organizations are a bad thing for players and they usually don’t treat players well, but I have worked with both owners of Liquid and I believe I will be much happier here than I was in previous teams. There’s a certain level of transparency I believe an organization needs to have, and I think Liquid has gone above and beyond what I’ve experienced in the past. It seems to me that Liquid treats their players very fair, and I respect them a lot for doing so. My heart and passion is still with the game and there’s only one thing I want moving forward: A Championship Title. I am excited to see what we are able to achieve with having such a solid organization behind us and I cannot wait to prove all of the haters wrong.

Thank you for all of your continued support, I cannot wait to see what we can achieve under the Liquid brand!

After the move, Liquid now boast:

Eric "⁠adreN⁠" Hoag
Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski
Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella
Jacob "⁠FugLy⁠" Medina
Spencer "⁠Hiko⁠" Martin

The team are participating in CEVO Professional Season 8, where they are currently sitting at first place with three wins and a tie. They will also soon clash with CLG in the PGL Season 1 North American bracket.

Expected

2015-09-04 02:19

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2015-09-04 02:21

9 replies

RIP LIQUID. They just added captain toxic!

2015-09-04 03:47

6 replies

Yep, money whore is going to kill another team.

2015-09-04 12:25

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Hiko isnt a 'money whore'. He just dosen't want to join a team that dosen't have the same sponsors as he does. If you think Hiko is a so called 'money whore' you are fully retarded and haven't been in the CS sceen for a long time. Full video: youtube.com/watch?v=W03eMSXEN0I

2015-09-04 14:09

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i beg to differ as his previous actions and rumors surrounding him states otherwise. he obviously isn't disclosing what really happens in the backstage and i gotta admit he knows a thing or two of PR and damage control so he can be manipulative. if he was as candid as you sell him he would've joined Liquid along with ska back then as opposed to kill Liquid by stealing adren and nitr0. luckly for the former they decided not to leave. also, what's up this 'either go with the flow and worship hiko or be retard' stuff even mean? sorry but I LOL'd at that.

2015-09-04 14:19

3 replies

TIL rumors = facts

2015-09-04 16:08

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he tried to kill liquid and form a new "super team" along with ska adren nitr0 and possibly naf-fly. no one said anything but has been hinted that hiko didn't wanted to accept joining liquid because he wanted to be part of all future negotiations regarding sponsorships and salaries. just search on hltv and you'll know what happened later.

2015-09-04 18:53

dude you are so right.

2015-09-04 18:28

Is it just me or is Hiko more consistent online?

He definitely thrives at Lan also. YouTube Hiko top 5 plays and they are ask LAN's except I think against Netcode which might have also been a LAN.

2015-09-04 06:10

Hiko could have been on the best team in America if he was not so greedy and toxic.

2015-09-04 03:43

hiko had personal issues with cloud9 org.... FailFish

2015-09-04 11:35

RIP

rekt.

Ayy

2015-09-04 03:18

old

hello

a roster that has potential, yay.

no. give up hope.

2015-09-04 10:57

very little potential, but i guess u muricanos are glad for every last bit nowadays.

2015-09-04 11:00

you're clueless

2015-09-04 17:55

lol nice

NICE

2015-09-04 02:20

AYYYYY

WOOOO GO HIKO!

2015-09-04 02:42

give them time and they'll be #2 in NA. this line up has a lot of potential

confirmed on dazed's stream 2 weeks ago

cya liquid

xpeked

tier 50

why does he need to make an hour long stream or 300 lines posts every time he does something

Maybe because he cares and these words are not just bold words...............

2015-09-04 03:35

He doesn't need to, its a personality trade. Also he has a big fanbase that likes to know what is going on and having that fanbase in turn earns him more money, so why not put in that extra effort. Why do Lucasnoisettes have to ask questions without thinking first?

2015-09-04 09:05

He is really big attention whore, he loves drama

2015-09-04 10:58

ofc he does. we already knew this.

expected from fat gold digger

roles still suck in liquid. going to go the same way as all hiko's recent teams. liquid are a mess themselves.

wrong adren at the bottom of article

2015-09-04 02:22

oh, AdreN joins Liquid???

2015-09-04 02:23

Inb4 Hiko leaves Liquid

2 replies

That's adren from NA not from HellRaisers

2015-09-04 02:25

First of all u replied to the wrong person and second of all he just trollled u even if he says otherwise :))))

2015-09-04 03:38

Liquid > Clown9/Choke9 4Head

rofl

2015-09-04 02:24

Plox Ska9> rekt liquid Kappa

wasted XD

-Fugly +pyth dream team

no -Elige +pyth, Fugly is their best player before Hiko joined.

2015-09-04 04:49

And elige is the biggest talent in the NA scene, would be stupid to throw him away now. -any talk about pyth.

2015-09-04 09:07

Ez all my skins on liquid

Rip your skins.

2015-09-04 03:44

Lold at admins removing comments

expected

2015-09-04 02:27

gl hf Liquid!

2015-09-04 02:28

1st

disband inc , thx mr hiko

HF, I hope they get better and are able to compete with Europeans but I doubt it.

2015-09-04 02:32

liquid to disband in 1 month

nice

2015-09-04 02:33

ayyyy my boy hiko!

2015-09-04 02:34

Hiko is a great addition. If Liquid weren't a contender before(I would argue they were), they definitely are now. Hiko adds a layer of skill and experience that is not easy to find in North America. Looking forward to seeing how things progress with the team.

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thanks for your honest opinion

2015-09-04 03:42

Thank you for reading.

2015-09-04 04:13

It's getting exciting at the top now. Enough competition to push the NA teams skill ceiling. Who knows, maybe far enough to contend with those got damn Europeans.

2015-09-04 05:06

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Indeed. I hope there's a bit more competition at the top. Getting sick of the same teams winning everything. I want to see some new blood in finals at large tournaments.

2015-09-04 05:27

see thats the thing right there. u think this roster change would change anything about the team. its hard to see what that would be though. hiko is not a strat caller. not at all in fact. he is the new guy in a team that already likes to think they are good. is he gonna be the one fixing the roles in the team? is he gonna take calling away from adren, who is absolute shit at it? is he gonna awp for them so that they'll have an awper that can compete with the best awpers in the world? nah man, hes just gonna play a similar role to what flowsick had, just with more skill (as flowsick admittedly was ultra shit). they wont be competing on big stages, thats just utopian thinking of NA fanboys.

2015-09-04 11:11

There is a lot of assumption in your post.

2015-09-04 13:37

i just cant see any of the massive problems they had which i could see and which were also outlined by other top players and analysts being fixed, bcs i have no reason to assume that, as hiko fits pretty well into flowsicks roles and he is the new guy in the team. hard to see how hes gonna stop nitro and elige from stats patting and adren from calling crappy.

2015-09-04 13:41

Honestly, I think you exaggerate Liquid's problems in general(it's not as if they have been an absolute horrible team or something), but even if I don't believe that, your response to my post is rather curious anyway. My initial post said that Hiko adds skill and experience, and make Liquid better. You then accuse me of "uptopian fanboy thinking", which lord knows how you get from "Liquid could be more of a contender" to me thinking "The roster change will change anything about the team". You yourself admitted that Hiko does add a positive over flowsick, so in essence, you have already agreed to what I said. Regardless, to respond to what you are supposedly responding to what I said: As I noted, you are making plenty of assumptions in saying they won't contend. And your reason for those assumptions is another assumption: that they won't change anything except for swapping Hiko in for Flowsick simply because they had the same roll and such. I don't see why I should accept this as true. Who is to say that the team will not change at all, if the supposed problems you have pointed out persist? It's one thing to not want to assume something, but in order to believe what you do, you have to make an assumption. That assumption being that they will be content due to the fact that Hiko thinks they are good and he fits into the missing role. I just as well could say that Hiko's additional experience could change the team positively. I don't find that to be any less rational than "he is the new guy in a team that already likes to think they are good".

2015-09-04 14:01

well to be fair, ur post #159 makes it sound like u have really high hopes for the team and i cant see this happening. also ur saying mimi its not like theyve been absolute trash before.. uhhm, what? they could even qualify for eepl against crappy NA competition. every time they went to lan, especially against euros, they got completely smashed. and all that for one of the best paid teams in the world, with 3 big NA talents on the roster and a very well known streaming and yt personality in adren, who releases tons of great stuff about csgo, but cant get his shit together in the actual game? they were absolute trash. hiko adds more skill, but its not like flowsick was an inexperienced player. and hiko has a very defined playstyle, that fits into flowsicks roles quite well. as for the new guy thing what i mean is that it may be hard for him to just come in and change a bunch of stuff that he doesnt agree with. lets be real here: he joined liquid bcs he cant bank on the hope that there will be a team with ex ibp in january and even if so, that would be next season, not this one. besides that he has no othr options.

2015-09-04 14:11

I hope they play well, that's a lot different from thinking that they will play well. And you not being able to see it as a possibility is completely different from it not being a possibility. Sure, they've played poorly before. But they at one point were basically considered the second best team behind Cloud9. They were often tier toughest opponent. They've had problems internationally no doubt, but I would hardly say that overall, they have been completely awful. But let's move away from what is surely to become semantics. I see what you are saying about Hiko fitting in well and all, but I think it is an assumption to say that they will simply play the same way plus Hiko. He joined Liquid because they give him the best chance to win right now, outside of getting into Cloud9 somehow.

2015-09-04 14:34

If only old ibp got unbanned

2015-09-04 09:50

hiko is adding toxicity and baiting to his teams lol

2015-09-04 10:52

Not really much reason to say Hiko has toxic. I really don't understand how anyone can say that from his tenure with C9 and Nihilum.

2015-09-04 13:38

cuz i believe rumors to be atleast partially true

2015-09-04 19:33

2015-09-04 02:35

good luck Hiko!!!

top3 usa, will never win anything, release from liquid or disband in next 6 months. you heard it first!

2015-09-04 02:38

+1 Good pick up, but won't change the fact that C9 and CLG are top 2 in NA. I doubt Liquid will still have a csgo team by winter.

2015-09-04 02:48

-adreN +ptr

Whos out liquid?

2015-09-04 02:39

surprise surpirse who would have thought

2015-09-04 02:40

hiko overhated

1/20 in clutching this year 2015. Good pickup

2015-09-04 02:45

Who gives a shit.

2015-09-04 02:47

2015-09-04 02:51

That's good news for Liquid & I love that org. since a long time ago (Starcraft 2) so I'm happy they picked up hiko. Now if only nitr0 could put away the AWP for good because he's wasting his talents (great rifler) when he use it. GLHF

Hell yeah dude. I was a Liquid'HerO and Liquid'TaeJa fan for two years before I turned my attention to CS!

2015-09-04 05:04

I liked them too. Also HuK before he signed for EG, but it's too bad the game is so "dead" now. My all-time favorite SC2 player is Stephano though!

Solid team able to compete with CLG, Luminosity and Cloud9 for American championships.

forgot kappa

2015-09-04 03:19

LOL, they replaced flowsick rather than elige.. mistakes were made..

2015-09-04 02:54

flowshit was awful and he tried to be a lurker so hike will probably fit in seamlessly, not like liquid is going anywhere though

2015-09-04 03:01

Kappa

2015-09-04 03:02

if u think flowsick > elige, you're so damn wrong

2015-09-04 03:28

lol?

2015-09-04 14:47

He will neer win a title. Cloud 9 will always be better. No chance.

2015-09-04 02:55

What a suprise not like AdreN has uploaded 2 vids and HLTV themselves have uploaded one. Kappa

2015-09-04 02:56

-adreN +koosta

2015-09-04 03:00

-elige +roca/ryx I wish!!

Yea bullshit. Nihilum was doing so much better without you and Semphis. They were one of my favourite NA team but you had to come and destroy it and now you are going to destory Liquid.

2015-09-04 03:04

Nihilum was never good m8

2015-09-04 03:17

Did he say they were good m8?

No, they weren't really. They had one decent tournament. Other than that, they were hardly standout at all.

2015-09-04 17:39

R U KIDDING ME

2015-09-04 03:08

Disband incoming. 3months max.

2015-09-04 03:09

unexpected Kappa

[GB]Jame^s is back! That's awesome!

2015-09-04 03:13

Rip liquid

2015-09-04 03:16

Microsoft edge?

Go back to C9, Hiko. -freak +hiko top5 world team

now get rid of adren and you'll be good

2015-09-04 03:25

adren is playing really good lately.

2015-09-04 04:54

Always good online in NA....

2015-09-04 05:33

[*] Liquid Hiko the destroyer of teams

2015-09-04 03:26

couldnt care less. hiko overrated bitchy player

2015-09-04 03:27

4th paragraph: "Martin wanted (to) form a team with" Please fix :v

who did he replace?

2015-09-04 03:29

flowsicK i think

2015-09-04 03:34

about time GO USA

2015-09-04 03:41

RIP Liquid

2015-09-04 03:45

2015-09-04 04:12

These guys suck.

2015-09-04 04:15

andddddddddd Liquid is dead

2015-09-04 04:34

Hiko addresses the "FAQ" and tension that the CS community has draped over him. I was beginning to lose support for the guy but realize he was not being shady after all. This team looks very strong, especially with EliGe not reaching his full potential. There's a lot of brains on this team, and I would go so far as to say they're smart enough to anti-strat against C9 and top EU teams.

2015-09-04 05:01

Yeah, I actually don't know if they will live up to potential but when I look at this team on paper I see a lot of firepower in the likes of nitro, elige, and hiko. I've also always thought fugly was pretty good and will play a good anchor role if the starpower can step up around him. I think adren has underperformed immensely as botg a fragger and igl considering he actually does have a mind for the game. The thing is even before hiko I thought this team looked good on paper, but they have continuously not only underperformed but completely embarassed themselves especially outside of the u.s. I dont know if hiko will have a huge impact on their form as a team, but I'd like to think they could do some damage. I'd really love to see nitr0 embrace the role of a fearless entry fragger... I don't want to see him awping.

2015-09-05 02:13

most overrated player in the history. gL adren

Wouldn't be surprised if Hiko killed this team too

2015-09-04 05:05

Read the quote before you ignorant post Lord Shit Bag.

2015-09-04 05:07

they need an igl imo

2015-09-04 05:31

stop mentiong how he tried to form a team with skadoodle, no1 cares anymore. Liquid will disband in 2 months bc of toxic hiko

2015-09-04 05:42

rip liquid

2015-09-04 05:51

-fugly -adren

2015-09-04 06:00

-fugly -adren + pyth + koosta (or ptr) Liquid > CLG and = C9

2015-09-04 06:47

Fugly has been Liquid's most consistent player on LAN, and Koosta is the most overrated awper NA. Even silent3m has better stats this CEVO season, and they've played similar competition.

2015-09-04 07:52

this is a very good linup for NA but they will still lose to C9

2015-09-04 07:02

HIKO stop talking too much. You were never good and you will never succeed. HAVE A BIG MOUTH AFTER YOU ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING! loser

2015-09-04 07:08

Spoken like a true nova 2.

2015-09-04 07:13

RIP Liquid. You had a good run.

2015-09-04 07:50

Well liquid, be ready for disband.

2015-09-04 08:20

This lineup is really good, hoping adreN can't pull out his fingers out of his arse and do something good as an IGL for once, now he has a sick team.

2015-09-04 08:25

These comments are a cesspool of negativity. Regardless, I really hope Liquid finds their form now. I would love to see Liquid become at least a contender now. At the very least take a couple Bo3 wins against EU teams.

2015-09-04 08:47

It's almost as if you have to be a negative hateful bitch to be cool here. So many kids copycat each other it seems.

2015-09-04 09:28

gl Hiko & Liquid, this could become very interesting. Too bad the hltv community sucks balls, so many incredibly dumb people, it's kinda shocking.

2015-09-04 09:25

This is when some of you are supposed to say: "Sorry Richard Lewis".

2015-09-04 09:56

glgl

2015-09-04 10:01

What is it with the hiko hate?

2015-09-04 10:04

Basically built on rumors and lies mostly.

2015-09-04 17:42

-fugly +swag and liguid top 1 NA

2015-09-04 10:14

I dont understand why people say hiko is salty etc. he is a nice person i met him in realife he was really nice and what is wrong to be greedy? Do you wann lose every match?

2015-09-04 10:15

Glad hes away from semphis.. though now unfortunately, hes gotta deal with adrens toxic bs

2015-09-04 10:20

hiko is what??? but what is he want!!!111 help me now am bulgaria

2015-09-04 10:44

expected and nobody cares liquid is still a shit NA team not even top 2

2015-09-04 10:47

liko joins fiquid

2015-09-04 10:48

Dude you can't just fucking copy an entire post from someone's Facebook and not even link your source.

Dude do you even read? Now the move is official and comes with an extensive statement and with the link dropped to that facebook.com/OfficialHiko/posts/51969196..

Woops, missed that. Still though, reposting Hiko's own post in its entirety is not cool, it's fine to take quotes but even a high-school teacher would fail you for pure plagiarism.

2015-09-04 11:18

thats what hltv do, they just full copy paste other peoples stuff and post it

2015-09-04 11:51

I've said this before in an answer to Thorin, who said a similar thing. This is a statement, not actual content, and quotes from full statements rarely mean much without context. Not sure what the fuss is about. If this was actual content, sure, it would be very ill-mannered and plagiaristic, statements are a completely different thing in my opinion.

2015-09-04 21:56

about time

who got kicked?

2015-09-04 11:13

flowsick?

2015-09-04 11:27

2015-09-04 11:30

too bad good organization will not make your players better, they suck.

2015-09-04 11:38

Congratulations Liquid and to Hiko. :) While I would have been surprised if the try-out period (read: negotiations), had resulted in Hiko not coming on-board, I'm glad it's official and all the details have been ironed out. Now? Solid #2 or 3. Possibly, #2. The only piece they may need yet is a top-level awper like PTR and they could be #1. They already were competitive against C9. This makes them a hair more competitive. If there's any team that may be nervous about this, it's probably CLG. The two are basically even now.

2015-09-04 12:24

They haven't even played a game and you call them competitive. Names don't make teams and I'm sure CLG will still be an easy step ahead. Though, I hope I'm wrong.

2015-09-04 13:58

Good Luck!

2015-09-04 13:00

Finally Hiko joins a team, have been waiting to see the US best player in action again.

2015-09-04 13:14

RIP IN PEACE LIQUID! It was nice knowing you.

2015-09-04 13:29

Ez for hiko

2015-09-04 13:30

the end of liquid

2015-09-04 13:48

this team will do nothing but make hiko look good. they all suck. #RAPEDONLAN

2015-09-04 13:56

Elige is better than Hiko.

2015-09-04 18:55

They will give troubre!

2015-09-04 13:57

adren-> dedicated IGL, -fugly/nitro +good awp maybe m0e, = top2na

2015-09-04 14:12

WTF is a championship title? Is that winning an esea season? Or is it winning a major?

2015-09-04 14:16

If AdreN only awp. and nobody else picks up the awp, then liquid can actually be top 1 NA.

2015-09-04 14:23

"F" THE HATERS!!!! HIKO RULES!!!!

2015-09-04 14:39

With the influx of funds, it's bound to happen with a Players Association / Players Union...

2015-09-04 15:06

Nice! Top 10 NA and top 30 world

2015-09-04 15:14

neat

2015-09-04 15:35

So they kick tarik, their best player to get hiko in team lol'd....

2015-09-04 15:36

what? tarik? hes on clg....

2015-09-04 18:30

n1 gl

2015-09-04 16:19

2 months and outs in groups at best.

2015-09-04 17:06

rip liquid, disband inc, Hiko going to destroy another team, the washed up pig...

2015-09-04 17:12

So stupid how they always deny everything like nothing is signed, everything is possible bla bla just to announce later what everyone alrdy knew

2015-09-04 17:44

gonna leave here aswell because this team isnt (again) enough good for his ego.

2015-09-04 18:25

i kinda hoped s1mple and hiko would become great friends and form an international large ego superteam

2015-09-04 21:40

hiko is really really manipulative and can be a totally different kind of person than he leads on. once and a while (vary rarely) his true personality comes out when hes streaming and its not nice at all. I have come to notice hiko is a very fake person and I would never want to be on a team with him.

2015-09-04 18:29