alex to create a junior team

20-11-2015 16:29

Zhengwei "alex" Bian has put together a challenge to make a new full-time junior team from a total of 480 applicants, of which 15 have made it to the last LAN stage.

Zhengwei "⁠alex⁠" Bian, who has played in numerous TyLoo and wNv lineups, which were at a point considered the best in China and arguably all of Asia in Counter-Strike 1.6, has put together quite a peculiar system to find the best five for a full-time junior team.

The final lineup will be coached by RunBo "⁠sakula⁠" Wu, another well-known figure in the Chinese region, who played alongside alex in wNv.

alex went through 480 applicants in the first stage

Eventually 480 players signed up for the challenge, from which 75 made it to a second stage, and that number eventually went down to 15.

Those 15 will meet on November 21 in BenQ's gaming hall in Suzhou for the final selection. Other former TyLoo players, Xuefeng "⁠xf⁠" Lai and Xi "⁠karl⁠" Wang, will join the team of judges, who will determine the final five players to make it into the lineup.

n1 csgoasia,make it happen.

2015-11-20 16:29

lel rip

2015-11-20 16:29

awesome

2015-11-20 16:29

nice idea :D germany would need this aswell :| gl with it chinese guy

2015-11-20 16:30

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yeah they helped this way many talents who would never get a chance to become pro

2015-11-22 15:12

wNv Jungle come back plz

2015-11-20 16:30

three years from now they will probs be 16-0 the euro's

2015-11-20 16:30

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just like in dota2 right

2015-11-21 02:00

Asian team at a 2016 major?

2015-11-20 16:31

3 replies

doubt

2015-11-20 16:32

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yeah, me 2 xD

2015-11-20 16:49

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2015-11-20 17:30

seems interesting

2015-11-20 16:31

Here comes asia to destroy europe in another e sport :(

2015-11-20 16:31

37 replies

They are light ages behind in skill. And 2 years behind in tactics (bet they can make that less tho).

2015-11-20 16:58

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What do you mean 2 years behind in tactics? How does that even work? Do you expect them to rush B every round? They can see literally every match online and see what works, why it works, etc. Don't be naive.

2015-11-20 17:12

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They're only allowed to watch two year old matches as they're 2 years behind, you see. Otherwise it would be unfair towards the other teams!!!!!! /s

2015-11-20 17:14

12 replies

The pro matches are way more detail than what the casual player can notice. And asians are not really proffesionals right now.

2015-11-20 17:28

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The only reason why they are no professional CS:GO teams from China/Korea is because they didn't bother playing it at all, as their market is leaning heavily towards f2p games. It has nothing to do with skill, talent or tactics. It is actually the opposite, in 1.6 Chinese and Korean teams had by far the best tactics and executes in the world.

2015-11-20 17:32

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I know you guys can follow up on the tactics but.. the skill gap is too big for a top asian team in the next 1-2 years. If you put nV vs the best asian team on a lan bo3 the result with most likely be 16-2 16-1. Not even a contest.

2015-11-20 17:37

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nxl take 9 rounds against VG in MSi 2013 which is a record back then

2015-11-20 18:00

So on the one side you have a team that is: - full time team - massively funded - is from a country/location with lots of practice opportunities On the other side you have a team that is: - not really a full time team - not massively funded - is from a country where they have little to no practice opportunities And you mean to tell me that the first team would win? No.... You can't expect them to go from zeroes to heroes in a span of two months, it takes time. However, they only need is to go full time and be well funded so CS can be their primary focus. Work ethics and dedication is insane with these guys, certainly higher than NV :))

2015-11-20 18:59

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> is from a country where they have little to no practice opportunities in asia? nice b8

2015-11-21 06:05

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What part of that is a bait? The game is practically non-existent in Asia. Surely, you know what that means for players/teams wanting to improve, right?

2015-11-21 06:20

Exactly what I said. People can't spout "Look out Europe" when the reality is that Asia will not catch up in 2 months.. maybe not even a year.

2015-11-21 07:18

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That's only due to the limited practice opportunities. There isn't any magical barrier that would stop them from becoming equally good sooner than in a year. They would catch up in no team if they moved to europe. But there are no signs of this happening anytime soon, so... bummer.

2015-11-21 14:21

Okay, we understand that you are a weeboo anime fag fan of asia. Now back to reality, Asia sucks at CSGO. hf

2015-11-21 09:40

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Now that you provided so many overwhelming arguments I totally see where I am wrong.

2015-11-21 14:16

HAHAHAHAHA

2015-11-21 06:46

light ages behind in skill lmao. Did you just start following CS two years ago? Asians barely had a scene relative to EU in 1.6, and started later, yet were on par with them skillwise

2015-11-20 17:38

18 replies

After 5 years or so........................................................................

2015-11-20 17:40

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Starting from 2005-2006ish China entered the scene, and then Wnv was the best team on earth in 2007ish for a while. 2005, Korea entered the scene and were pretty much one bomb hold screw-up away from beating the best team in the world, in 2005.

2015-11-20 17:42

16 replies

Game was released in 1999...

2015-11-20 17:52

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I know, but they didn't start playing the game in Asia the day it was released is my point, not anywhere close.

2015-11-20 18:12

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Well, for CSGO they did. And they are still years away.

2015-11-20 18:14

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well how do you define "start playing". Obviously there were SOME Asian kids out there that started playing the day CSGO was released, but as far as a SCENE goes. There still isn't one.

2015-11-20 18:18

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And that's because they haven't found the skill yet.. You see, the best scene is the one that started growing first. That's why Asia we'll never reach EU unless they start actively playing EU teams which I doubt will happen anytime soon.

2015-11-20 18:20

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sorry but that's just a demonstrably wrong statement to make - that there's no scene because "they haven't found the skill yet". Any time there is not a scene in a region, it's because that activity has not blossomed in popularity in that region yet. You think the League scene only started in Korea AFTER players like Faker started playing? No, the game got popular first, and then the best talent emerged out of the pack. CSGO needs to be more popular in Asia, then the best talent will emerge from the masses eventually. Right now there are no "masses" yet, and out of the ones playing right now, are not that good yet.

2015-11-20 18:25

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You sir giving me hope that there are smart people around in USA.

2015-11-21 06:07

You think that random people who, having played the game for 200 hours, can be "talents" in this game? I think that even if Asia will start joining in masses they will still be 2 years behind and Europe ain't getting any smaller my fred.

2015-11-21 07:20

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If you haven't noticed, when Asian countries get heavily invested in an esport, they go to the extreme organizationally - orgs, coaches, practice, boot camps, gaming houses, etc. Think about all the reasons why NA is bad at every esport... Korea/China are like the antithesis. You are aware of other esports besides CS right? SC, LoL, Dota? EU started LoL about a year before Korea, and then once it flourished in Korea, they promptly and absolutely dominated the game.

2015-11-21 07:46

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Well I guess you are right there. But again, I only said that it will take them atleast 2 years to have a top team.

2015-11-21 08:24

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Are you Greeks generally as fucking retarded as you? This guy keeps providing you proof that there is huge amount of potential in Asian players when they start playing something seriously. Its been seen in 1.5, 1.6 and in other fps games and different genre games. And all you can come up with is simply replying every time "EU 2 years ahead! At least 2 years till Asian team becomes good!" You do realize that there are already a lot of good FPS shooters in Asia. All they need to learn is basics of the game and learn how CSGO works. How the movement and tactics and shit works and thats it. You think that is going to take 2 fucking years? There are 8760 hours in one year. You think thats not enough time for Asian no lifer geeks to master something? Jesus Christ no wonder your country is having economical crisis if average Greek is as stupid as you... Oh btw how is your gaming community going on? kappa.

2015-11-22 01:12

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Wow, you come up with nothing but false proof and then proceed to insult me and my country stating that what I'm saying is wrong? You think wNv and Project.KR were fucking good? That was at 2005-2007 when the competition was lacking because of the vast majority of nords quitting the game. Just face the fact that it will take them 2 years to come to the European level and they have never shown any skill in CSGO. You do fucking know that the pros that will be playing for big Asian orgs in 1-2 years will be the same people that we see on the Asian scene right now (e.t.c Secret, TyLoo, Puzzles)? You don't really think that somebody could start playing the game right now and be capable of competing against the best in just a matter of months, they don't even have the FPS infastructure. If you actually believe that you must be fucking kidding me and that would be the only reason the Finnish scene is so horrid with so much talent on it. Jesus Christ no wonder you guys are first in suiciding and bullying if the average Fin is as depressed and toxic as you are. Oh btw, atleast we have a few good players in other eSports and all you have is BOT Allu.

2015-11-22 08:21

Greece has, in theory, the same problem with CS:GO as Asia: It's simply a small game. While I don't quite understand why he's using the arguments that he is, his overall point is correct. (If I've understood him correctly, he doesn't believe Asia will be good within the future - if ever.)

2015-11-22 15:01

"[...]once it flourished in Korea, they promptly and absolutely dominated the game." That's the key-point in this discussion; not whether or not they can BECOME good, because obviously they have the potential to be. After all, Asia is pretty big... Having lived in Asia - both China and Korea - I have a very, very, very hard time seeing CS:GO become a thing within the next years (if ever to be completely honest.) Free to play games are just 100x times more popular in those regions and are the games played in internet-cafés. Also FPS-games just aren't their thing - it actually it never was because 1.6 was not popular - and if it is, it's primarily CS:Online.

2015-11-22 14:55

Look at Crazyguy, he is a capable awper. And when Asians start with something, they will have those 200 hours in 2-3 weeks.

2015-11-21 13:01

Are you retarded?

2015-11-21 00:59

So you say they are several 9460730472580,8 kilometers behind in skill?

2015-11-21 12:58

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Yes. Skill is a distance and that's why I used light years, duh.

2015-11-21 18:40

man asian team in cs1.6 had godlike aim

2015-11-21 17:57

lets go asian scene

2015-11-20 16:31

young alexE

2015-11-20 16:32

nice gl

2015-11-20 16:32

This thing should exist in EU also, tons of talents would rise

2015-11-20 16:33

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Tons of no lifers would shown up haha

2015-11-20 16:41

they'd just get kicked and disapproved by pros xd

2015-11-20 22:46

dam son

2015-11-20 16:33

Sounds cool!

2015-11-20 16:34

gl joelz

2015-11-20 16:34

csgo X Factor

2015-11-20 16:35

cool :) European countries should start doing the same.

2015-11-20 16:35

WOW

2015-11-20 16:37

really good idea i think, gl to them!

2015-11-20 16:38

Pretty effin cool!

2015-11-20 16:39

@@ A question to the admins. If we have news about this kind of things, will we also see a news about LAN Finals of go go cs go project from poland, where over 2000 of young people tried to win their place in the final roster? It's one of the biggest projects in Poland, but i don't think we will see any news about it here. So why do we see some news about China?

2015-11-20 16:40

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Well, they might have no known about this. I'm sure they would publish a news of that event. ;-)

2015-11-20 16:41

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I'm pretty sure they know ;p It was really well promoted in Polish esport sites, i dont even know any polish person that plays csgo and doesnt know this name or at least what the project is about. And it must be really unfortunate, if they didnt hear about it when there are at least 2 if not more polish people in hltv administration.

2015-11-20 17:12

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because we have #csgo2asia rather than #csgo2poland....

2015-11-20 18:37

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Well, maybe for you yes. I just think if they do some news like this, they should cover all of this kind of news. Not only 1/10 because they like it. From a point of viev im happy for you guys, but from the 2nd part of myself i feel bad, because csgo pro scene in poland is one of the smallest, and i think it would really help it to develop even with some news about this kind of projects.

2015-11-20 18:43

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probably cause the organizer, Alex, is a famous former CS player. And other famous ex-players are judging it as well.

2015-11-21 02:12

You just commented that csgo scene in poland is one of the smallest.... Maybe you barely have no idea about how gloomy the csgo scene of China is.... We even do not have a tier-2 team

2015-11-21 05:12

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Ye, thats why it's nice to get projects like this. But as i said, i think if they do this - they should cover all kinds of news about it. And not like we have much in Poland, we have VP, but if they go who will take their place? Lounge? Vexed? No chance on their level.

2015-11-21 07:39

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What I want to convey is that such event do not deserve a disclosure unless it is special. #csgo2asia is special, and so is Alex's event. If there was a tier-1 team in China, such news would not be posted, as #csgo2asia would not be a special topic at all.

2015-11-21 10:43

Mad Polish.. Better to respond quickly (jk) peace :)

2015-11-20 16:42

see, no one cares about poorland. the only news worth of writing would be if u guys would stop cleaning toilets rip a candle for me

2015-11-20 18:42

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[*] m8

2015-11-20 18:45

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thx c u soon in 15mins when i get home from work and see u cleaning my appartment

2015-11-20 18:45

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And your not gonna find anything worth something there, my friends just took it to the market.

2015-11-20 18:47

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well I was gonna donate everything to charity towards poorland anyway

2015-11-20 18:49

the reason why Asia can dominate games: they invest

2015-11-20 16:42

who?

2015-11-20 16:44

New Top1 lineup China:)) xf karl GoodRifle KingZ alex Oldschool players:))

2015-11-20 16:45

7 replies

Gotta wonder how someone comes up with the name GoodRifle...

2015-11-20 16:50

6 replies

He was a very good rifle dude..

2015-11-20 16:58

2 replies

He's actually the main sniper of his team so it's kinda funny.

2015-11-21 09:34

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A sniper is a rifle though.

2015-11-21 11:32

better than Goodfella

2015-11-20 18:20

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Goodfella > GoodRifle

2015-11-20 21:00

Funnily enough he was actually the AWPer of the team lol

2015-11-21 09:32

Interesting project, gl on it !!!

2015-11-20 16:45

CSGO ACADEMY LOL xD

2015-11-20 16:47

2 replies

Games Academy 2.0

2015-11-20 16:58

1 reply

More like Flipsid3 Academy

2015-11-20 18:02

nice idea

2015-11-20 16:49

Who? What?

2015-11-20 16:58

sakula = plastic bag In greek :D

2015-11-20 17:01

3 replies

sakura is flower in Japanese.

2015-11-22 16:16

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Isn't there are pro player named Sakura on DeToNaToR?

2015-11-22 16:32

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yea sakura means cherry blossom in japanese

2015-11-23 05:56

xaxaxa csgo to asia make russian happi

2015-11-20 17:07

I'm coming boys

2015-11-20 17:10

Asian csgo seems developing :)

2015-11-20 17:10

That's the future

2015-11-20 17:12

gj alex

2015-11-20 17:17

Bullshit like X Factor or "Best talents TV shows" showed that this kind of projects is only good on the paper but always fail. Actually real talents reach the top by themselves, it's part of the experience required to be a professional. Same thing is happening on Dota where players are recruited only for their MMR (Xcalibur, w33, M1racle) and it's not as good as it sounded first. But I support the attention we give to Asian CS and hope this project eventually succeeds and get me wrong.

2015-11-20 17:20

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I agree about American Idol and shit like that, but I'm assuming Alex didn't just allow total random scrubs to just sign up for this thing. There must have been a screening process first. X Factor and those shows willingly bring in the scrubs for ratings purposes.

2015-11-20 18:29

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Propably, but i think we will see more projects like the one Alex is doing, or even the "older" project in Poland. The question now is, how much will it help to develop the csgo scene.

2015-11-20 18:49

This is a brilliant idea, what about w33ha & Miracle? They are both in the top5 teams in the world, nothing wrong with that, it's something CSGO should have do in a long time. in cs investors are just braindead

2015-11-20 23:26

2015-11-20 17:35

aw yea

2015-11-20 18:05

c'mon asia! nice

2015-11-20 18:13

china will have good results in 2016, and 2017 they are dominating CSGO. mark my words. those "people" dont sleep, all they do is youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

2015-11-20 18:45

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youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

2015-11-21 07:12

I can assure you that'll require a miracle.

2015-11-22 15:05

wNv, legends

2015-11-20 19:18

only in Asia is there a tryout featuring 480 people

2015-11-20 19:40

noice.

2015-11-20 19:41

interested to see how the final 5 will be selected. obviously they picked the best aimers but will they even fit roles?

2015-11-20 22:49

news apparently because the prime minister will come to the city, the local government has forbidden players under 18 access to the venue. alex and co have been straining to find another venue and set up the machine. fortunately, after a hell of struggle, all problems have been solved.

2015-11-20 23:28

When did so many trolls invade HLTV.org?

2015-11-21 00:08

alex'44

2015-11-21 00:28

NS try alex44, glade to sew cogs developing in Asia.

2015-11-21 02:08

I want to see a good pro Asian team :|

2015-11-21 06:00

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You'll have to wait years for that to happen brother.

2015-11-21 06:27

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Not necessarily. Asia has had plenty of world-class teams already in 1.6. And aiming, which many of those teams were known for, is a skill which transfers to CSGO.

2015-11-21 07:37

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Having lived in Asia - both China and Korea - I can assure you CS:GO will not be big within the nearest future. I have a hard time seeing it ever being a big thing. You'll have to know the culture there to realize why; especially the gaming culture is so different it's mind-blowing. It has nothing to do with skill, because I'm sure Asian teams, if the game was as popular as 1.6 was, would be a serious force to be reckoned with in CS:GO. We've seen that with LoL, DotA, Dota 2 WarCraft 3, StarCraft Brood War and StarCraft 2. All games they've dominated completely. Free to play games are just 100x times more popular in those regions and are the games played in internet-cafés. Also FPS-games just arent their thing - and if it is, it's CS:Online.

2015-11-22 14:29

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now i believe that you truly have lived in these places.and good analysis

2015-11-23 04:35